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LawrenceTaylor56 : 6/20/2019 5:38 am
Woj dropped this yesterday

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Adrian Wojnarowski& #8207;& #61490;


Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.


So it looks like we already know the top 3.

1. Zion
2. Ja Morant
3. RJ Barrett

Does Frank get traded today for an additional second?

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If the Knicks do prefer Garland... which I wouldn't  
90.Cal : 6/20/2019 5:45 am : link
But if they do... they should work on a swap with New Orleans at 4. Maybe take on Brandon Ingram and/or some of those Lakers future first rounders to go back one spot.
Peter Vecsey  
Big Rick in FL : 6/20/2019 6:33 am : link
Says the Pelicans are trying to move up to 2 to take Barrett.

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@PeterVecsey1: NOLA, Im told, is assembling assets in all out effort to leapfrog Knicks into second slot in order to snare RJ Barrett. Obviously, Pels are offering Grizz No 4 pick as part payment. No pity parties planned. NY would land Morant or Garland. Memphis would pluck point that drops...
RE: Peter Vecsey  
robbieballs2003 : 6/20/2019 6:34 am : link
In comment 14477502 Big Rick in FL said:
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Says the Pelicans are trying to move up to 2 to take Barrett.



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@PeterVecsey1: NOLA, Im told, is assembling assets in all out effort to leapfrog Knicks into second slot in order to snare RJ Barrett. Obviously, Pels are offering Grizz No 4 pick as part payment. No pity parties planned. NY would land Morant or Garland. Memphis would pluck point that drops...



Yep, posted this last night. Either way, we win.
Wow...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/20/2019 6:38 am : link
We could snag Morant. Sign me up.
Robbie  
Big Rick in FL : 6/20/2019 6:39 am : link
Yes we do! Zion, Morant or RJ and it's a good night.
Do teams get Medicals  
GMEN46 : 6/20/2019 6:40 am : link
On players before the draft. Do the knicks know how morant surgery went? Do their doctors get to review all of that? I have a strong feeling pelicans will move up and knicks will take garland over morant
Morant or  
TommyWiseau : 6/20/2019 6:42 am : link
RJ. Only way I take Garland is if we move down to 4 and get some nice assets from the Pelicans. Not taking him at 3
RE: Do teams get Medicals  
robbieballs2003 : 6/20/2019 6:44 am : link
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On players before the draft. Do the knicks know how morant surgery went? Do their doctors get to review all of that? I have a strong feeling pelicans will move up and knicks will take garland over morant


The Knicks supposedly love Morant. If the rumors about Durant are true then Morant's surgery isn't scaring them off. Can't think of much worse inniries than an achilles injury to an older player.
And by rumors  
robbieballs2003 : 6/20/2019 6:45 am : link
I mean that the Knicks still want to max out KD.
Strange we didn't hear the pelicans tried to move from 4 to 3  
Torrag : 6/20/2019 7:07 am : link
That would seem a simpler solution for all if they want RJ. Perhaps they tried and it didn't come off? Seems unlikely with every other possible scenario being rumored.
RE: Strange we didn't hear the pelicans tried to move from 4 to 3  
TommyWiseau : 6/20/2019 7:13 am : link
In comment 14477511 Torrag said:
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That would seem a simpler solution for all if they want RJ. Perhaps they tried and it didn't come off? Seems unlikely with every other possible scenario being rumored.


Maybe Perry declined and is hoping they leapfrog us to 2 so he gets Morant?
'hoping they leapfrog us to 2 so he gets Morant?'...  
Torrag : 6/20/2019 7:16 am : link
Works for me. I'll be happy as long as we get RJ/Morant at 3 or Garland plus serious assets at #4.
RE: 'hoping they leapfrog us to 2 so he gets Morant?'...  
TommyWiseau : 6/20/2019 7:18 am : link
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Works for me. I'll be happy as long as we get RJ/Morant at 3 or Garland plus serious assets at #4.


Same here, either of those scenerios is A okay with me. That and try to acquire a 2md round pick or two. Bunch of teams have multiple second rounders that they may want to move for cash
Coack K says Barrett will flourish in NY  
Canton : 6/20/2019 7:22 am : link
and will be a star. Even sees potential triple doubles in his game..
Interview - ( New Window )
Nice find with that Coach K snippet  
Torrag : 6/20/2019 7:25 am : link
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are we really taking peter vescey seriously?  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 7:26 am : link
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Peter  
Carl in CT : 6/20/2019 7:33 am : link
Must have took his geritol and woke up. He last shot trying to be relevent.
RE: are we really taking peter vescey seriously?  
Big Rick in FL : 6/20/2019 7:43 am : link
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Idk why we wouldn't? The Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate doesn't seem unrealistic. You gotta try to make him as happy as possible before he leaves you like AD did. I don't think it's some crazy scenario that they wanna pair Zion up with his best friend.
I'm wondering how this draft turns out. While some won't agree, I  
Ira : 6/20/2019 7:46 am : link
feel they blew the 1st round pick last year. But they made up for it with a very strong 2nd round pick. So, I have no idea what to expect from them.
i mean this isnt the first we have heard of NO....  
Italianju : 6/20/2019 7:48 am : link
trying to move up. That said we also heard they could trade the 4th pick for a vet, so as usual the reports are all over the place.

Im fine with Morant but i dont see this happening. Unless NO is willing to include next years first unprotected i wouldnt be interested in moving from Morant/Barrett to Garland/Culver.

Anything we heard today about the top 3 picks is going to be reporters trying to keep people interested despite knowings we are 99% sure we know how the top 3 is going to go
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nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 7:56 am : link
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Idk why we wouldn't? The Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate doesn't seem unrealistic. You gotta try to make him as happy as possible before he leaves you like AD did. I don't think it's some crazy scenario that they wanna pair Zion up with his best friend.


because first off it is peter vescey..

Second Grizzlies are not trading mike conley if they planned on moving down...

third every reputable source has said grizzlies locked in on morant and knicks with rj barrett...
Big Knick Q for the day  
PhilSimms15 : 6/20/2019 8:02 am : link
Is whether they use any of their cap space today to pick up an extra first or two. There are a number of teams willing to trade picks to get below the tax level including Miami and Oklahoma.

If they cant sign two stars, they should use all that cap space for additional picks either this year or the future.
problem..  
Italianju : 6/20/2019 8:07 am : link
is i dont think they know if they can sign two max guys yet (or even one).
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Big Rick in FL : 6/20/2019 8:12 am : link
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Idk why we wouldn't? The Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate doesn't seem unrealistic. You gotta try to make him as happy as possible before he leaves you like AD did. I don't think it's some crazy scenario that they wanna pair Zion up with his best friend.



because first off it is peter vescey..

Second Grizzlies are not trading mike conley if they planned on moving down...

third every reputable source has said grizzlies locked in on morant and knicks with rj barrett...


Not sure what either of those 2 things have to do with the Pelicans trying to put together a trade offer?! Nobody is saying it's going to get done. He simply said the Pelicans are doing all they can to make a trade.
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nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 8:16 am : link
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Idk why we wouldn't? The Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate doesn't seem unrealistic. You gotta try to make him as happy as possible before he leaves you like AD did. I don't think it's some crazy scenario that they wanna pair Zion up with his best friend.



because first off it is peter vescey..

Second Grizzlies are not trading mike conley if they planned on moving down...

third every reputable source has said grizzlies locked in on morant and knicks with rj barrett...



Not sure what either of those 2 things have to do with the Pelicans trying to put together a trade offer?! Nobody is saying it's going to get done. He simply said the Pelicans are doing all they can to make a trade.


because the whole scenario makes no sense, grizzlies are not trading down, pelicans by all accounts want established players, not more rookies
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Chris684 : 6/20/2019 8:17 am : link
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Idk why we wouldn't? The Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate doesn't seem unrealistic. You gotta try to make him as happy as possible before he leaves you like AD did. I don't think it's some crazy scenario that they wanna pair Zion up with his best friend.



because first off it is peter vescey..

Second Grizzlies are not trading mike conley if they planned on moving down...

third every reputable source has said grizzlies locked in on morant and knicks with rj barrett...


16, why couldn't the Grizz trade Conley and move to #4 knowing they're getting Morant or Garland?
Because they have been locked in on morant since the lottery  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 8:21 am : link
No draft package in my opinion is worth giving that up and taking a lesser player..

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Big Rick in FL : 6/20/2019 8:21 am : link
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Idk why we wouldn't? The Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate doesn't seem unrealistic. You gotta try to make him as happy as possible before he leaves you like AD did. I don't think it's some crazy scenario that they wanna pair Zion up with his best friend.



because first off it is peter vescey..

Second Grizzlies are not trading mike conley if they planned on moving down...

third every reputable source has said grizzlies locked in on morant and knicks with rj barrett...



Not sure what either of those 2 things have to do with the Pelicans trying to put together a trade offer?! Nobody is saying it's going to get done. He simply said the Pelicans are doing all they can to make a trade.



because the whole scenario makes no sense, grizzlies are not trading down, pelicans by all accounts want established players, not more rookies


If you don't think the Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate/friend and a better player then what they'd get at 4 I don't know what to tell you.
woj on getup  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 8:22 am : link
Knicks locked in on barrett and have been since the lottery...

Also Jalen Rose and Jay Williams say do not count out the knicks in free agency both thjnk durant to knicks is still on the table and then after that players will follow..
Idk why you keep going back to Memphis  
Big Rick in FL : 6/20/2019 8:25 am : link
Nobody is saying the trade is going to happen. They may very well be locked in on Morant. Does that mean the Pelicans can't make an offer? No it doesn't. So Idk why you're trying so hard to shoot it down.
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nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 8:27 am : link
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Idk why we wouldn't? The Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate doesn't seem unrealistic. You gotta try to make him as happy as possible before he leaves you like AD did. I don't think it's some crazy scenario that they wanna pair Zion up with his best friend.



because first off it is peter vescey..

Second Grizzlies are not trading mike conley if they planned on moving down...

third every reputable source has said grizzlies locked in on morant and knicks with rj barrett...



Not sure what either of those 2 things have to do with the Pelicans trying to put together a trade offer?! Nobody is saying it's going to get done. He simply said the Pelicans are doing all they can to make a trade.



because the whole scenario makes no sense, grizzlies are not trading down, pelicans by all accounts want established players, not more rookies



If you don't think the Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate/friend and a better player then what they'd get at 4 I don't know what to tell you.


If you dont think peter vescey tweeted thos to troll knicks fans and get attention i dont know what to tell you..

I will guarantee no matter ehat the pelicans offer memphis is not trading down..
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Big Rick in FL : 6/20/2019 8:30 am : link
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Idk why we wouldn't? The Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate doesn't seem unrealistic. You gotta try to make him as happy as possible before he leaves you like AD did. I don't think it's some crazy scenario that they wanna pair Zion up with his best friend.



because first off it is peter vescey..

Second Grizzlies are not trading mike conley if they planned on moving down...

third every reputable source has said grizzlies locked in on morant and knicks with rj barrett...



Not sure what either of those 2 things have to do with the Pelicans trying to put together a trade offer?! Nobody is saying it's going to get done. He simply said the Pelicans are doing all they can to make a trade.



because the whole scenario makes no sense, grizzlies are not trading down, pelicans by all accounts want established players, not more rookies



If you don't think the Pelicans trying to get Zions teammate/friend and a better player then what they'd get at 4 I don't know what to tell you.



If you dont think peter vescey tweeted thos to troll knicks fans and get attention i dont know what to tell you..

I will guarantee no matter ehat the pelicans offer memphis is not trading down..


Once again nobody said Memphis was trading down. Holy shit.
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nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 8:33 am : link
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Nobody is saying the trade is going to happen. They may very well be locked in on Morant. Does that mean the Pelicans can't make an offer? No it doesn't. So Idk why you're trying so hard to shoot it down.


my problem with the tweet is it is a nothing tweet meant to rile up knicks fans. After evwryone says the knicks are taking Barrett, he comes out with this tweet....

He makes it seem like the pelicans have a shot of doing this, when in reality there is zero chance, writers can tweet something like this over and over again
how can you not see this is a troll tweet  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 8:34 am : link
just like stefan bondy sayong the knicks may take garland, he knows there is no chance but he tweets it anyway to get knicks fans riled up...

this tweet is a nothing tweet, he tweeted it to rile up knicks fans and that is it...
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Big Rick in FL : 6/20/2019 8:36 am : link
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just like stefan bondy sayong the knicks may take garland, he knows there is no chance but he tweets it anyway to get knicks fans riled up...

this tweet is a nothing tweet, he tweeted it to rile up knicks fans and that is it...


Rile up Knick fans? Is there a single Knick fan that would be upset if they got Morant? Really makes no sense.
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nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 8:46 am : link
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just like stefan bondy sayong the knicks may take garland, he knows there is no chance but he tweets it anyway to get knicks fans riled up...

this tweet is a nothing tweet, he tweeted it to rile up knicks fans and that is it...



Rile up Knick fans? Is there a single Knick fan that would be upset if they got Morant? Really makes no sense.


agree to disagree man, no worries
another team looking for capspace....  
Italianju : 6/20/2019 8:56 am : link
Adrian Wojnarowski

Boston has offered center Aron Baynes -- $5.4M expiring contract -- into salary cap space elsewhere, league sources tell ESPN. Without Kyrie Irving and Al Horford on the books, moving Baynes without taking back salary could get the Celtics to $23M in space.

Not sure what they are giving. Their worst 1st round is 22nd and i cant see them moving that to move an expiring guy making 5 mill. And there second rounder is in the 50's which doesnt seem like enough.
Be nice to end up with Barrett & Garland  
Sean : 6/20/2019 9:04 am : link
Offer the Pelicans a package around DSJR and future firsts.
sure id love to have two top 4 picks..  
Italianju : 6/20/2019 9:08 am : link
but you arent getting the 4th pick for DSJ and some future picks. You would have to offer a handful of unprotected picks and even then im not sure NO does it. They want to win soon. Also i dont want to trade a bunch of unprotected picks for Garland/Culver.
I really believe that Barrett's game is much more suited  
Section331 : 6/20/2019 9:16 am : link
to the NBA than what he played at Duke. I think he will be a very good NBA player, but if you're the Knicks, you've got to listen to what the Pels have to offer. Getting an extra pick to move one spot isn't the worst haul.

I don't see Memphis passing on Morant, especially after dealing Conley. NO would have to blow them out of the water.
A couple of things that won't happen  
Pete44 : 6/20/2019 9:20 am : link
A couple of things that won't happen tonight:

1) Knicks getting 2 Top 4 Picks - Besides the fact the Knicks don't have the assets, there is no love loss between Griffin and the Knicks

2) Knicks taking on salary tonight for draft picks, they actually might want to clear more salary with Frenchie. They still want to be all in on free agency, post free agency, possibly they take on salary for assets to help other teams clear cap space.
RE: Coack K says Barrett will flourish in NY  
shyster : 6/20/2019 9:27 am : link
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and will be a star. Even sees potential triple doubles in his game.. Interview - ( New Window )


RJ had a triple double vs NC St in the regular season; 23-11-10.

Had double digit rebounds in nine games.

Also 11 assists in the Sweet Sixteen tourney game vs Va Tech.
Get Up  
TyreeHelmet : 6/20/2019 9:28 am : link
The comments from Jay Williams were very positive this morning. These comments along with his harsh criticism of the Warriors really makes me think Durant is headed to the Knicks.

But does he want all that pressure coming back from an Achilles injury? Tough call but if I had to bet today Id say hes signing with the Knicks.
RE: Get Up  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14477599 TyreeHelmet said:
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The comments from Jay Williams were very positive this morning. These comments along with his harsh criticism of the Warriors really makes me think Durant is headed to the Knicks.

But does he want all that pressure coming back from an Achilles injury? Tough call but if I had to bet today Id say hes signing with the Knicks.


plus all of the reports comingnout now that the nets do not want irving by himself
I still think there is a solid chance they..  
Italianju : 6/20/2019 9:33 am : link
end up with KD and Kyrie when all is said and done. And how well that works would depend on how KD comes back. I mean we would obviously be a better team next season with Kyrie, some good vets im guessing, and Barrett. We def contend for a playoff spot, but thats prolly it. That said if RJ is legit, Mitch/Knox take positive steps and KD comes back at 80% of KD or better then we would be damn good the following season and still have a lot of assets moving forward.
RE: Get Up  
Jon in NYC : 6/20/2019 9:33 am : link
In comment 14477599 TyreeHelmet said:
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The comments from Jay Williams were very positive this morning. These comments along with his harsh criticism of the Warriors really makes me think Durant is headed to the Knicks.

But does he want all that pressure coming back from an Achilles injury? Tough call but if I had to bet today Id say hes signing with the Knicks.


What did he say?
this could be the Nets just trying to save face....  
Italianju : 6/20/2019 9:35 am : link
but this also could be a mutual thing between the Nets and Kyrie. Nets only wanted Kyrie if he came with another star and Kyrie only wanted the Nets if he could bring another star.
He basically just said dont count out the knicks on these guys...  
Italianju : 6/20/2019 9:39 am : link
He didnt imply he thought the knicks were the favorites or anything again. Basically it wasnt really much substance in my opinion.
I'd take  
TommyWiseau : 6/20/2019 9:46 am : link
Kyrie and KD, draft RJ.. move DSJ for another piece or future pick. Worst case he backs up Kyrie or steps in if and when he gets hurt
It's RJ Barrett time  
Giantology : 6/20/2019 9:51 am : link
Let's go baby!
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