Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.
So it looks like we already know the top 3.
1. Zion
2. Ja Morant
3. RJ Barrett
Does Frank get traded today for an additional second?
1 Knicks trade # 3 and Kevin Knox to NEP for # 4 and Brandon Ingram
NYK takes Garland at 4 after NEP gets Barrett to team with Zion.
2 Trade Frank Ntilikina to the Spurs for pick 29
NYK roster might look something like this:
Guards: Malcolm Brogdon (FA, 4 years at 16mm per year) DSJ, Darius Garland at 4, Kadeem Allen, Allonzo Trier, John Jenkins
Forwards: Brandon Ingram, Julius Randle (FA, 4 years at 18mm per year), Damyean Dotson, Noah Vonleh (FA, 3 years at 5mm per year) and two drafted under the radar guys I like --Dylan Windler at 29 (sharp shooting wing), Talen Horton-Tucker at 55
Bigs: Mitchell Robinson, Willie Cauley-Stein (FA, 3 years at 8mm per year), Luke Kornet
Reasoning: Ingram and Randle will lead the team in scoring. Both can facilitate along with their scoring talent. Defensively, its a solid combo especially with all that length (Robinson, Cauley-Stein, Vonleh) behind them. Brogdon...simply, is a winner. He defends exceptionally well and always does the right thing. Garland to me, has star talent. His shot is downright beautiful and has great speed and a Steph Curry like handle. This is a team that is young and is loaded with length, defense, intelligent non-primadonna players.
The hope was obviously a healthy KD + Kyrie. I would still sign KD but if it doesn't turn out this way I like a young team like I have described here with plenty of "dry powder" in the form of cap room to make a trade when the opportunity presents itself (Bradley Beal?).
If hes the difference between getting a high priced free agent, then trade him. But, every team needs a guy that could play high quality defense. He was clearly overdrafted but his defense is worth more than a 2nd pick and this team does not have enough players who play defense even close to his level. You can always buy a 2nd round pick. His attitude is good and hes still s kid. I hope they keep him.
At all. Before taking on salary we have to make sure we dont need space. Make our pick, see how FA goes, take a step back and customize your plan on 7/10 going forward.
RE: this could be the Nets just trying to save face....
but this also could be a mutual thing between the Nets and Kyrie. Nets only wanted Kyrie if he came with another star and Kyrie only wanted the Nets if he could bring another star.
this is just a guess, but I think the Kyrie stuff has been more from his side than the nets FO (who haven't leaked at all over the last 3 years). I don't think they'd take it lightly to just let DLo walk after putting 2 years of development into him as their face of the franchise, him leading them to the playoffs ahead of schedule, and making an all star game.
Leonard seems set on the Clippers which makes sense, with maybe the Raptors clinging to an outside shot of keeping him. KD is the big unknown now post injury. Who is still willing to max him? Does he even actually care about playing with Irving?
As a Net fan, Horford and Harris are the 2 most intriguing fits out there though you obviously have to listen if KD is a possibility (especially if O'malley says he'll be good to go).
RE: RE: this could be the Nets just trying to save face....
but this also could be a mutual thing between the Nets and Kyrie. Nets only wanted Kyrie if he came with another star and Kyrie only wanted the Nets if he could bring another star.
this is just a guess, but I think the Kyrie stuff has been more from his side than the nets FO (who haven't leaked at all over the last 3 years). I don't think they'd take it lightly to just let DLo walk after putting 2 years of development into him as their face of the franchise, him leading them to the playoffs ahead of schedule, and making an all star game.
Leonard seems set on the Clippers which makes sense, with maybe the Raptors clinging to an outside shot of keeping him. KD is the big unknown now post injury. Who is still willing to max him? Does he even actually care about playing with Irving?
As a Net fan, Horford and Harris are the 2 most intriguing fits out there though you obviously have to listen if KD is a possibility (especially if O'malley says he'll be good to go).
woj is known for being a mouthpiece for the nets, he is the one who started this saying the nets thinking is they do not want kyrie by himself and would just stick with deangelo...
You think Kyrie would leak all the interest in the nets?
1) Knicks getting 2 Top 4 Picks - Besides the fact the Knicks don't have the assets, there is no love loss between Griffin and the Knicks
2) Knicks taking on salary tonight for draft picks, they actually might want to clear more salary with Frenchie. They still want to be all in on free agency, post free agency, possibly they take on salary for assets to help other teams clear cap space.
re 2: why would other teams want to clear cap space, post free agency?
Most of the Kyrie stuff started from non-Woj sources
Cowherd, Steven A Smith, etc. Woj backed up the reporting eventually that the Nets were considering Irving but that they were also aiming for the "big fish". Here was Woj's main tweet after breaking the Crabbe trade:
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Kyrie Irving is serious about the Nets -- and the Nets are serious about beating the Knicks -- and rest of league -- to the biggest free agents in the marketplace, per league sources.
I think Kyrie has always been in the mix for the Nets but never been their top priority. Which logically makes sense because he's obviously not the best FA available - especially given their needs. After KD's injury there has been mixed reporting around whether the Nets would sign Irving to pair him with DLo, or let DLo walk, and now full circle that they may not be interested in him at all. Like I said, even beyond KD/Leonard, I think Harris and Horford are just better fits for what they need - and each has strong connections to Atkinson.
Duke star RJ Barrett has said for weeks his hope is to play for the Knicks. On the eve of the NBA draft, he explained one more reason why.
It would mean a lot, Barrett said during Wednesdays draft press conference. My late grandfather, rest in peace, he was the biggest Knicks fan. He always told me Id play for the Knicks. So it would mean a lot for me to play for the team.
Though he is Canadian, Barretts mother, Kesha, is from Brooklyn. His father, Rowan, played for St. Johns and hes visited relatives in Brooklyn plenty, calling New York like home.
First it is Kyrie is coming to the nets and it is done deal and the nets dont really want to keep russell and are going to let him walk...
Now reports are well the nets do not want him by himself, so the nets really didnt want hkm anyway...
i mean come on, nets fans on here were sayomg how much it made sense, even by himself...
what i want to know why all of sudden is it leaking that neta dont want him by himself
you're equating what random fans on a message board said to what's been reported by Woj. Like I said, Woj never said the Nets and Irving were a done deal or that he was the Nets top priority - he consistently said Irving was focused on the Nets. Here's another quote from his article 2 days ago.
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Irving, a six-time All-Star, will become an unrestricted free agent, and league sources say he remains intensely interested in the Brooklyn Nets. The New York Knicks are expected to remain competitive for Irving, too, sources told ESPN.
The Nets and Knicks have both hoped to sign Irving and Kevin Durant together into max salary slots. Durant's free agency has been complicated by a ruptured right Achilles tendon that is expected to keep him out of the entire 2019-20 season. The Knicks and Nets are both still interested in signing Durant and Irving together, league sources said.
and for the record most Net fans are split on Irving vs. Russell. None of us want to lose Russell for nothing. The reporting on whether the Nets would be interested in pairing the 2 of them or not has been all over the map and I haven't seen anything definitive in that regard from Shams or Woj. Sources: Kyrie splits with agent, eyes Roc Nation - ( New Window )
like it has not been presented by multiple people that kyrie to nets was considered a done deal? and not one mention was that another player has to come with him for the nets to sign him..
and i got killed by mutiple nets fans on this site after i said kyrie to the nets by himself makes no sense for the nets and didnt seem like a current regime move for tbe nets..
never once said in his reporting of the interest that the caveat would be that another guy comes, it was always irving wants the nets and would try to bring kd with him BUT irving wants to go to the nets...
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I get that some people get caught up in "ceiling" and "potential" but the Knicks can not Frank this pick. Take RJ and don't look back
like it has not been presented by multiple people that kyrie to nets was considered a done deal? and not one mention was that another player has to come with him for the nets to sign him..
and i got killed by mutiple nets fans on this site after i said kyrie to the nets by himself makes no sense for the nets and didnt seem like a current regime move for tbe nets..
If multiple people doesnt include shams or woj (aka nets mouthpiece) who gives a shit? 99% of message boards (and SAS) is nonsense that doesnt happen.
on the narrative that all news reporting on the knicks has a negative axe and on the nets has a positive axe.
and because of that, get a bit excitable....
every kyrie discussion on the internet has been nets were the favorite but nothing is certain.
discussions about kyrie alone were mainly saying... well you have to max a PG so may as well get the better one.... though every nets fan in general in the end wants a combination of a PG and some form of improved 4 that can shoot. is really all we care... whether its Dlo, kyrie whichever.
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Bondy has no sources in the Knicks organization, he is just being a shrill. Woj reported today the Knicks have been locked in on Barrett since the lottery. Barrett should be the pick. Garland could be a great player, but Barrett is too good to pass up for the chance that Garland might be great, not enough of a sample size. It is different then when Kyrie was drafted as he was worth the risk as that draft did not have much in the way of talent.
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Expectation is Knicks draft R.J. Barrett if hes available, but some in Knicks organization view Garland as having brighter future
Bondy has no sources in the Knicks organization, he is just being a shrill. Woj reported today the Knicks have been locked in on Barrett since the lottery. Barrett should be the pick. Garland could be a great player, but Barrett is too good to pass up for the chance that Garland might be great, not enough of a sample size. It is different then when Kyrie was drafted as he was worth the risk as that draft did not have much in the way of talent.
Just Bondy setting up an article for after the draft how the knicms were split on garland and barrett..
1 Knicks trade # 3 and Kevin Knox to NEP for # 4 and Brandon Ingram
NYK takes Garland at 4 after NEP gets Barrett to team with Zion.
2 Trade Frank Ntilikina to the Spurs for pick 29
NYK roster might look something like this:
Guards: Malcolm Brogdon (FA, 4 years at 16mm per year) DSJ, Darius Garland at 4, Kadeem Allen, Allonzo Trier, John Jenkins
Forwards: Brandon Ingram, Julius Randle (FA, 4 years at 18mm per year), Damyean Dotson, Noah Vonleh (FA, 3 years at 5mm per year) and two drafted under the radar guys I like --Dylan Windler at 29 (sharp shooting wing), Talen Horton-Tucker at 55
Bigs: Mitchell Robinson, Willie Cauley-Stein (FA, 3 years at 8mm per year), Luke Kornet
Reasoning: Ingram and Randle will lead the team in scoring. Both can facilitate along with their scoring talent. Defensively, its a solid combo especially with all that length (Robinson, Cauley-Stein, Vonleh) behind them. Brogdon...simply, is a winner. He defends exceptionally well and always does the right thing. Garland to me, has star talent. His shot is downright beautiful and has great speed and a Steph Curry like handle. This is a team that is young and is loaded with length, defense, intelligent non-primadonna players.
The hope was obviously a healthy KD + Kyrie. I would still sign KD but if it doesn't turn out this way I like a young team like I have described here with plenty of "dry powder" in the form of cap room to make a trade when the opportunity presents itself (Bradley Beal?).
Just my opinion but this would be a disastrous offseason. The only player I like here is Brodgon but 4/64 is a steep price for him.
to gauge what other FA's they could possibly get with him. Maybe now they've heard that it's unlikely that KD or Kawhi comes too with Kyrie hence the backtracking.
Also, Colby White working out for the Knicks today. Very surprising.
These last minute workouts are definitely intriguing. If NOLA offers an unprotected #1 next year to move up one spot, they have to think about it, especially if they like White or Garland. I still think at 3, they stick with RJ.
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UNC guard Coby White -- perhaps the fastest rising prospect on the board -- had a private workout with the Knicks at team's facility today, league sources tell ESPN. Knicks have been locked on RJ Barrett at No. 3, but summoned White after Darius Garland's workout yesterday.
The Bucks are very likely going to match any offer on Brogs that isn't a big overpay. No one would be happier to see him on the Knicks than me, but I can't see it happening.
RE: Feels like the Knicks are scrambling a bit here.
and have an offer out for the 3rd pick? Would make sense that the Knicks would want to be able to do their due diligence before agreeing to anything in that scenario.
Interesting that the late focus is on the PGs though, what does that say for Dennis Smith Jr? I know they have worked out Culver, but I don't remember anything about workouts with Reddish or Hunter who you would think would also be in the mix if we moved down.
next years unprotected first. I dont want the Lakers picks in 2023 or NO pick in the next two drafts top 5 protected. I think this is the Knicks just covering all their bases and being prepared, what a novel idea.
RE: Maybe the Pelicans are making a hard push for Barrett
and have an offer out for the 3rd pick? Would make sense that the Knicks would want to be able to do their due diligence before agreeing to anything in that scenario.
Interesting that the late focus is on the PGs though, what does that say for Dennis Smith Jr? I know they have worked out Culver, but I don't remember anything about workouts with Reddish or Hunter who you would think would also be in the mix if we moved down.
The Knicks met and worked out Reddish but not Hunter.
would have to trade next years unprotected pick and something better then DSJ. And if im the knicks im not trading any unprotected picks. I could see a team like ATL be willing to move one of their two picks for some future assets but again im not sure i want to trade future assets. Plus all the guys we have met with are prolly gone by 8 except Cam.
RE: If the Knicks do prefer Garland... which I wouldn't
But if they do... they should work on a swap with New Orleans at 4. Maybe take on Brandon Ingram and/or some of those Lakers future first rounders to go back one spot.
If they move back to 4 or 5 and pick up a future 1st, I wouldnt be opposed. Im really high on Culver though.
Would you do a similar trade as the Mavs/ Hawks deal? Cavs trade 5th overall for the 3rd but include a top 5 protected 2020 1st that loses protections each year.
It all depends on how you view the difference in Barrett and Garland/Culver, but I would probably do it. Knicks would be loaded with picks moving forward. But if they view Barrett as a franchise player, you stand pat.
but trading out of the top 3 seems like a huge boneheaded move. The NBA draft is not like the NFL draft. Acquiring more picks is most likely not a good thing.
end up with KD and Kyrie when all is said and done. And how well that works would depend on how KD comes back. I mean we would obviously be a better team next season with Kyrie, some good vets im guessing, and Barrett. We def contend for a playoff spot, but thats prolly it. That said if RJ is legit, Mitch/Knox take positive steps and KD comes back at 80% of KD or better then we would be damn good the following season and still have a lot of assets moving forward.
I feel the same way. I think kyrie is coming to the Knicks and I dont blame the Knicks one bit. Hed be the first legit PG weve had in years.
Unless you get Kawhi, it's a legit risk to take. Obviously a risk but a reasonable enough swing for the fences
For some reason, there's now word about a KD sign & trade. Not sure WTF that is about, but a couple articles discussing it (not sure if it's mentioned above)
There's also a short list of NBA rumors at the bottom
NYK takes Garland at 4 after NEP gets Barrett to team with Zion.
2 Trade Frank Ntilikina to the Spurs for pick 29
NYK roster might look something like this:
Guards: Malcolm Brogdon (FA, 4 years at 16mm per year) DSJ, Darius Garland at 4, Kadeem Allen, Allonzo Trier, John Jenkins
Forwards: Brandon Ingram, Julius Randle (FA, 4 years at 18mm per year), Damyean Dotson, Noah Vonleh (FA, 3 years at 5mm per year) and two drafted under the radar guys I like --Dylan Windler at 29 (sharp shooting wing), Talen Horton-Tucker at 55
Bigs: Mitchell Robinson, Willie Cauley-Stein (FA, 3 years at 8mm per year), Luke Kornet
Reasoning: Ingram and Randle will lead the team in scoring. Both can facilitate along with their scoring talent. Defensively, its a solid combo especially with all that length (Robinson, Cauley-Stein, Vonleh) behind them. Brogdon...simply, is a winner. He defends exceptionally well and always does the right thing. Garland to me, has star talent. His shot is downright beautiful and has great speed and a Steph Curry like handle. This is a team that is young and is loaded with length, defense, intelligent non-primadonna players.
The hope was obviously a healthy KD + Kyrie. I would still sign KD but if it doesn't turn out this way I like a young team like I have described here with plenty of "dry powder" in the form of cap room to make a trade when the opportunity presents itself (Bradley Beal?).
this is just a guess, but I think the Kyrie stuff has been more from his side than the nets FO (who haven't leaked at all over the last 3 years). I don't think they'd take it lightly to just let DLo walk after putting 2 years of development into him as their face of the franchise, him leading them to the playoffs ahead of schedule, and making an all star game.
Leonard seems set on the Clippers which makes sense, with maybe the Raptors clinging to an outside shot of keeping him. KD is the big unknown now post injury. Who is still willing to max him? Does he even actually care about playing with Irving?
As a Net fan, Horford and Harris are the 2 most intriguing fits out there though you obviously have to listen if KD is a possibility (especially if O'malley says he'll be good to go).
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but this also could be a mutual thing between the Nets and Kyrie. Nets only wanted Kyrie if he came with another star and Kyrie only wanted the Nets if he could bring another star.
this is just a guess, but I think the Kyrie stuff has been more from his side than the nets FO (who haven't leaked at all over the last 3 years). I don't think they'd take it lightly to just let DLo walk after putting 2 years of development into him as their face of the franchise, him leading them to the playoffs ahead of schedule, and making an all star game.
Leonard seems set on the Clippers which makes sense, with maybe the Raptors clinging to an outside shot of keeping him. KD is the big unknown now post injury. Who is still willing to max him? Does he even actually care about playing with Irving?
As a Net fan, Horford and Harris are the 2 most intriguing fits out there though you obviously have to listen if KD is a possibility (especially if O'malley says he'll be good to go).
woj is known for being a mouthpiece for the nets, he is the one who started this saying the nets thinking is they do not want kyrie by himself and would just stick with deangelo...
You think Kyrie would leak all the interest in the nets?
1) Knicks getting 2 Top 4 Picks - Besides the fact the Knicks don't have the assets, there is no love loss between Griffin and the Knicks
2) Knicks taking on salary tonight for draft picks, they actually might want to clear more salary with Frenchie. They still want to be all in on free agency, post free agency, possibly they take on salary for assets to help other teams clear cap space.
re 2: why would other teams want to clear cap space, post free agency?
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I think Kyrie has always been in the mix for the Nets but never been their top priority. Which logically makes sense because he's obviously not the best FA available - especially given their needs. After KD's injury there has been mixed reporting around whether the Nets would sign Irving to pair him with DLo, or let DLo walk, and now full circle that they may not be interested in him at all. Like I said, even beyond KD/Leonard, I think Harris and Horford are just better fits for what they need - and each has strong connections to Atkinson.
It would mean a lot, Barrett said during Wednesdays draft press conference. My late grandfather, rest in peace, he was the biggest Knicks fan. He always told me Id play for the Knicks. So it would mean a lot for me to play for the team.
Though he is Canadian, Barretts mother, Kesha, is from Brooklyn. His father, Rowan, played for St. Johns and hes visited relatives in Brooklyn plenty, calling New York like home.
Now reports are well the nets do not want him by himself, so the nets really didnt want hkm anyway...
i mean come on, nets fans on here were sayomg how much it made sense, even by himself...
what i want to know why all of sudden is it leaking that neta dont want him by himself
Now reports are well the nets do not want him by himself, so the nets really didnt want hkm anyway...
i mean come on, nets fans on here were sayomg how much it made sense, even by himself...
what i want to know why all of sudden is it leaking that neta dont want him by himself
you're equating what random fans on a message board said to what's been reported by Woj. Like I said, Woj never said the Nets and Irving were a done deal or that he was the Nets top priority - he consistently said Irving was focused on the Nets. Here's another quote from his article 2 days ago.
The Nets and Knicks have both hoped to sign Irving and Kevin Durant together into max salary slots. Durant's free agency has been complicated by a ruptured right Achilles tendon that is expected to keep him out of the entire 2019-20 season. The Knicks and Nets are both still interested in signing Durant and Irving together, league sources said.
and for the record most Net fans are split on Irving vs. Russell. None of us want to lose Russell for nothing. The reporting on whether the Nets would be interested in pairing the 2 of them or not has been all over the map and I haven't seen anything definitive in that regard from Shams or Woj.
Sources: Kyrie splits with agent, eyes Roc Nation - ( New Window )
and i got killed by mutiple nets fans on this site after i said kyrie to the nets by himself makes no sense for the nets and didnt seem like a current regime move for tbe nets..
why has that changed?
I still think so.
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I get that some people get caught up in "ceiling" and "potential" but the Knicks can not Frank this pick. Take RJ and don't look back
and i got killed by mutiple nets fans on this site after i said kyrie to the nets by himself makes no sense for the nets and didnt seem like a current regime move for tbe nets..
If multiple people doesnt include shams or woj (aka nets mouthpiece) who gives a shit? 99% of message boards (and SAS) is nonsense that doesnt happen.
and because of that, get a bit excitable....
every kyrie discussion on the internet has been nets were the favorite but nothing is certain.
discussions about kyrie alone were mainly saying... well you have to max a PG so may as well get the better one.... though every nets fan in general in the end wants a combination of a PG and some form of improved 4 that can shoot. is really all we care... whether its Dlo, kyrie whichever.
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Bondy has no sources in the Knicks organization, he is just being a shrill. Woj reported today the Knicks have been locked in on Barrett since the lottery. Barrett should be the pick. Garland could be a great player, but Barrett is too good to pass up for the chance that Garland might be great, not enough of a sample size. It is different then when Kyrie was drafted as he was worth the risk as that draft did not have much in the way of talent.
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Expectation is Knicks draft R.J. Barrett if hes available, but some in Knicks organization view Garland as having brighter future
Bondy has no sources in the Knicks organization, he is just being a shrill. Woj reported today the Knicks have been locked in on Barrett since the lottery. Barrett should be the pick. Garland could be a great player, but Barrett is too good to pass up for the chance that Garland might be great, not enough of a sample size. It is different then when Kyrie was drafted as he was worth the risk as that draft did not have much in the way of talent.
Just Bondy setting up an article for after the draft how the knicms were split on garland and barrett..
every kyrie discussion on the internet has been nets were the favorite but nothing is certain.
You are joking right? i like you hitdog but come on, for the past 2 weeks all the talk was kyrie was a lock to the nets...
NYK takes Garland at 4 after NEP gets Barrett to team with Zion.
2 Trade Frank Ntilikina to the Spurs for pick 29
NYK roster might look something like this:
Guards: Malcolm Brogdon (FA, 4 years at 16mm per year) DSJ, Darius Garland at 4, Kadeem Allen, Allonzo Trier, John Jenkins
Forwards: Brandon Ingram, Julius Randle (FA, 4 years at 18mm per year), Damyean Dotson, Noah Vonleh (FA, 3 years at 5mm per year) and two drafted under the radar guys I like --Dylan Windler at 29 (sharp shooting wing), Talen Horton-Tucker at 55
Bigs: Mitchell Robinson, Willie Cauley-Stein (FA, 3 years at 8mm per year), Luke Kornet
Reasoning: Ingram and Randle will lead the team in scoring. Both can facilitate along with their scoring talent. Defensively, its a solid combo especially with all that length (Robinson, Cauley-Stein, Vonleh) behind them. Brogdon...simply, is a winner. He defends exceptionally well and always does the right thing. Garland to me, has star talent. His shot is downright beautiful and has great speed and a Steph Curry like handle. This is a team that is young and is loaded with length, defense, intelligent non-primadonna players.
The hope was obviously a healthy KD + Kyrie. I would still sign KD but if it doesn't turn out this way I like a young team like I have described here with plenty of "dry powder" in the form of cap room to make a trade when the opportunity presents itself (Bradley Beal?).
Just my opinion but this would be a disastrous offseason. The only player I like here is Brodgon but 4/64 is a steep price for him.
That trade with NO is terrible.
Also, Colby White working out for the Knicks today. Very surprising.
I like White, but if we are dropping 3-5 spots we better be getting some sort of amazing return.
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UNC guard Coby White -- perhaps the fastest rising prospect on the board -- had a private workout with the Knicks at team's facility today, league sources tell ESPN. Knicks have been locked on RJ Barrett at No. 3, but summoned White after Darius Garland's workout yesterday.
The Bucks are very likely going to match any offer on Brogs that isn't a big overpay. No one would be happier to see him on the Knicks than me, but I can't see it happening.
also could be they just didnt get a chance to get these guys in and now that they are in new york easier to get them in for a workout
Interesting that the late focus is on the PGs though, what does that say for Dennis Smith Jr? I know they have worked out Culver, but I don't remember anything about workouts with Reddish or Hunter who you would think would also be in the mix if we moved down.
Interesting that the late focus is on the PGs though, what does that say for Dennis Smith Jr? I know they have worked out Culver, but I don't remember anything about workouts with Reddish or Hunter who you would think would also be in the mix if we moved down.
The Knicks met and worked out Reddish but not Hunter.
Hahhaha... why not Zion also!
Would you do a similar trade as the Mavs/ Hawks deal? Cavs trade 5th overall for the 3rd but include a top 5 protected 2020 1st that loses protections each year.
It all depends on how you view the difference in Barrett and Garland/Culver, but I would probably do it. Knicks would be loaded with picks moving forward. But if they view Barrett as a franchise player, you stand pat.
I feel the same way. I think kyrie is coming to the Knicks and I dont blame the Knicks one bit. Hed be the first legit PG weve had in years.
I remember people thinking he had KD potential
Unless you get Kawhi, it's a legit risk to take. Obviously a risk but a reasonable enough swing for the fences
For some reason, there's now word about a KD sign & trade. Not sure WTF that is about, but a couple articles discussing it (not sure if it's mentioned above)
There's also a short list of NBA rumors at the bottom
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