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LawrenceTaylor56 : 6/20/2019 5:38 am
Woj dropped this yesterday

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Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Duke’s RJ Barrett with the NBA Draft’s third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.


So it looks like we already know the top 3.

1. Zion
2. Ja Morant
3. RJ Barrett

Does Frank get traded today for an additional second?

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RE: Didn’t they make it so it’s not more  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2019 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14477851 Italianju said:
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Money? What would the advantage be for us?

It was Windhorst who said it's being discussed on TV earlier. The idea would be KD gets the 5th year which may be quite important to him given the injury and could rehab for a year with the Warriors and then they'd work with him to trade him to where he'd like to go. He called it a "delayed sign and trade".
Obviously seems like bad news for us  
ChaChing : 6/20/2019 1:09 pm : link
but that's why I'm confused hearing about it now (if at all legit of course). I feel like these days S&Ts are rare, but if it was possible why was it never even mentioned prior to today

We can say F that, but it's not NYK's call. And getting something back makes sense for GSW, and the $ for KD clearly
Strahan91 thanks for the detail  
ChaChing : 6/20/2019 1:09 pm : link
Makes sense about the xtra yr
kind of obvious but i think the KD injury really impacted FA  
Eric on Li : 6/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
saw a writer tweet yesterday that he thinks it's going to ultimately have a trickle down effect that changes the plans for almost 10 teams and 20 other players whose strategies had to shift. Horford opting and seeming to be out of boston seems like it was a pretty unexpected shakeup too.
thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.....  
Italianju : 6/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
how would KD know where he wants to go is still an option? Are the knicks supposed to work this out with the Warriors so they keep their capspace open? What happens if the GSW's change their mind and decide they dont want to trade him? Or the knicks decide his rehab is going bad and they dont want him.
Sign N Trade  
Pete44 : 6/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
If there is a sign n trade, it needs to be this year, not delayed. Too many things can happen.
RE: Sign N Trade  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
In comment 14477872 Pete44 said:
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If there is a sign n trade, it needs to be this year, not delayed. Too many things can happen.

there definitely wouldn't be a s&t this year because the Warriors can only give him 5 years if he stays on their roster
One thing I learned from this thread  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
16 really likes saying "If you don't think... ...I don't know what to tell you."
What time is this thing kicking off tonight.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
ETA of Knicks at 3?

I got family obligations until 8 or so tonight. Might have to follow via phone.
RE: One thing I learned from this thread  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14477875 Gatorade Dunk said:
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16 really likes saying "If you don't think... ...I don't know what to tell you."


haha i was a little fired up this morning, lack of sleep
RE: What time is this thing kicking off tonight.  
Sean : 6/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14477879 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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ETA of Knicks at 3?

I got family obligations until 8 or so tonight. Might have to follow via phone.


That sucks. You can’t drink for the draft tonight? I’ve got a few IPA’s & some whiskey ready for a night of rumors.
Oh, don't worry.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/20/2019 2:10 pm : link
I'll be popping open a Sweetwater IPA around 8:15 & watching ESPN in the man cave.
Anyone else have a gut feeling  
Chris684 : 6/20/2019 2:10 pm : link
that Barrett or Morant will be the best players in this draft over Zion?

Problem is I go back and forth with hoping for Morant/Barrett.
Zion  
Pete44 : 6/20/2019 2:17 pm : link
I think Zion/Morrant/Barrett are all not only good players, but also good kids. I hope all 3 become stars and we have one of them.
RE: Anyone else have a gut feeling  
Section331 : 6/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14477907 Chris684 said:
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that Barrett or Morant will be the best players in this draft over Zion?

Problem is I go back and forth with hoping for Morant/Barrett.


I think all 3 will be good, but Zion will be great.
What are the odds  
JayBinQueens : 6/20/2019 2:29 pm : link
Shamorie Ponds gets drafted?

RE: What are the odds  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14477934 JayBinQueens said:
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Shamorie Ponds gets drafted?


could be there at 55
Coby White can play the 2 maybe 3  
larryflower37 : 6/20/2019 2:45 pm : link
Would be a reach at the third pick.
He is an explosive athlete that can shoot the 3 and push the pace.
I would take D'Angelo Russell over Kyrie if I am the Knicks.
I hope Nets go Kyrie and leave Russell out there for the Knicks to grab him.
Move DSJ for picks and let Frank back him up.
KD and Russell would be a nice off-season.
Sign and trade makes no sense  
GMEN46 : 6/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
He should just sign a 1 and 1 with knicks and then opt out next year and sign a 4 year deal next year
Today  
Pete44 : 6/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
Reading the tea leaves from the tidbits from today, Durant is not interested in Brooklyn. The Nets either don't want Kyrie without KD or the other way around and KD to the Knicks might be this delayed sign n trade. Just another day of free agency rumors.
Mavs trying to move Timmy.  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
Hopefully Mills doesn't pick up the phone.
Cuban  
Pete44 : 6/20/2019 2:52 pm : link
When I met Cuban and we joked about the KP trade, he rolled his eyes when I mentioned Timmy.
The Sixers have four 2nd-round picks.  
81_Great_Dane : 6/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
That strikes me as fairly useless to them. They're not going to keep four 2nd-round rookies. I expect them to make a move.

The Knicks would be a potential trading partner for early 2nd round, no?
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2019 SECOND ROUND DRAFT CHOICE ORDER

31. Brooklyn (from New York via Philadelphia)
32. Phoenix
33. Philadelphia (from Cleveland via Orlando and New York)
34. Philadelphia (from Chicago via Los Angeles Lakers)

35. Atlanta
36. Charlotte (from Washington via Orlando, Denver and Atlanta)
37. Dallas
38. Chicago (from Memphis)
39. New Orleans
40. Sacramento (from Minnesota via Portland and Cleveland)
41. Atlanta (from Los Angeles Lakers via Cleveland and Indiana)
42. Philadelphia (from Sacramento via Brooklyn and Milwaukee)
43. Minnesota (from Miami via Charlotte)
44. Atlanta (from Charlotte)
45. Detroit
46. Orlando (from Brooklyn via Memphis and Charlotte)
47. Sacramento (from Orlando via New York)
48. LA Clippers
49. San Antonio
50. Indiana
51. Boston
52. Charlotte (from Oklahoma City)
53. Utah
54. Philadelphia
55. New York (from Houston)
56. LA Clippers (from Portland via Detroit and Orlando)
57. New Orleans (from Denver via Milwaukee)
58. Golden State
59. Toronto
60. Sacramento (from Milwaukee)
Given the success they’ve had with second rounders  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
I hope they’re aggressively pursuing one in the 30-45 range.
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ghost718 : 6/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
RE: .  
Chris684 : 6/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14477961 ghost718 said:
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LOL
RE: Sign and trade makes no sense  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/20/2019 3:45 pm : link
In comment 14477950 GMEN46 said:
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He should just sign a 1 and 1 with knicks and then opt out next year and sign a 4 year deal next year

It makes sense to Kevin Durant. 221 million reasons why.
Kay claiming he did some homework last night  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2019 3:48 pm : link
and Kawhi is legitimately interested in New York. Knicks will only offer max contracts to KD, Kawhi and Kyrie, and are willing to rebuild slowly if necessary. Pretty much what we've heard all along, but encouraging nonetheless. Also, RJ is the pick barring something crazy, but they'd be thrilled to take Ja at #3 if someone jumps ahead for RJ.
If KD and Golden State are going to ask for a sign and trade  
PhiPsi125 : 6/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
for KD, I really hope the Knicks tell them to take a hike. That would be monumentally stupid. If KD wants the extra money, then he can resign with the Warriors.
RE: Coby White can play the 2 maybe 3  
MookGiants : 6/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14477946 larryflower37 said:
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Would be a reach at the third pick.
He is an explosive athlete that can shoot the 3 and push the pace.
I would take D'Angelo Russell over Kyrie if I am the Knicks.
I hope Nets go Kyrie and leave Russell out there for the Knicks to grab him.
Move DSJ for picks and let Frank back him up.
KD and Russell would be a nice off-season.


I take it you haven’t seen Coby White play very much.

He is a point guard or a 2 in the NBA. Zero chance he plays the 3
RE: If KD and Golden State are going to ask for a sign and trade  
TommyWiseau : 6/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14478019 PhiPsi125 said:
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for KD, I really hope the Knicks tell them to take a hike. That would be monumentally stupid. If KD wants the extra money, then he can resign with the Warriors.


Agreed.
RE: Kay claiming he did some homework last night  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14478010 bceagle05 said:
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and Kawhi is legitimately interested in New York.


I've seen this movie before.

RE: What are the odds  
Section331 : 6/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14477934 JayBinQueens said:
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Shamorie Ponds gets drafted?


He'll almost certainly get drafted, I doubt it will be in the 1st. I think he'll be a steal for someone.
Knicks apparently asked at least one tam for a 2nd rounder for Frank  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
according to Begley
Link - ( New Window )
rumirs going around  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 4:10 pm : link
on nba sirius they were talking about the knicks trying to get the 5th pick from clevland to draft garland or white with barrett
I wouldn't give a max contract to Kyrie Irving.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/20/2019 4:11 pm : link
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RE: rumirs going around  
Sean : 6/20/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14478039 nygiants16 said:
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on nba sirius they were talking about the knicks trying to get the 5th pick from clevland to draft garland or white with barrett


YES!!
RE: Knicks apparently asked at least one tam for a 2nd rounder for Frank  
TyreeHelmet : 6/20/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14478038 Strahan91 said:
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according to Begley Link - ( New Window )


I don’t see the point of this. Just hold on to him and hope for serious improvement. He’s still only 2 years away from being a top 10 pick. His value couldn’t be any lower- why sell now?
I always get carried away with draft day fantasies.  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
Garland and Barrett will be a real doozy for the next few hours.
RE: rumirs going around  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2019 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14478039 nygiants16 said:
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on nba sirius they were talking about the knicks trying to get the 5th pick from clevland to draft garland or white with barrett

What could they possibly have to trade for 5 without taking back a bad contract? I'm not trading next year's pick unprotected...
Cavs have Sexton so they wouldn't want Smith Jr.  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2019 4:22 pm : link
Can't imagine there's a match there unless it's - gasp - Mitch.
RE: RE: Knicks apparently asked at least one tam for a 2nd rounder for Frank  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14478044 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 14478038 Strahan91 said:


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according to Begley Link - ( New Window )



I don’t see the point of this. Just hold on to him and hope for serious improvement. He’s still only 2 years away from being a top 10 pick. His value couldn’t be any lower- why sell now?

I think it's a cap thing. He's due to make a little under $5M this year. They'd save the money they used picking up Trier's option by replacing that with a second round pick. They're also not all that pleased with his attitude and work ethic.
RE: Cavs have Sexton so they wouldn't want Smith Jr.  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14478059 bceagle05 said:
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Can't imagine there's a match there unless it's - gasp - Mitch.

Knox and a protected first? I have no idea what kind of value Knox has but he was considered a top 10-12 pick in a draft thought to be stronger in the 5-12 range than this year's.
Cleveland beat detailed analysis of Cavs'  
shyster : 6/20/2019 4:37 pm : link
draft approach, posted this afternoon.

No hint of trading out of number five.

Supposedly focused on Garland, Culver, Hunter and Reddish, with internal division over the best option.


cleveland.com - ( New Window )
i doubt it happens  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 4:39 pm : link
my guess would be 1 of the dallas firsts, 1 of the young guys, and taking on a bad contract
RE: Cleveland beat detailed analysis of Cavs'  
shyster : 6/20/2019 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14478084 shyster said:
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draft approach, posted this afternoon.

No hint of trading out of number five.

cleveland.com - ( New Window )


Amend that to say no hint of trading out of five and being left with no pick in the top ten.

Article does mention possibility of Cavs' trading back to eight or ten.
Not exactly earth-shattering...  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2019 4:49 pm : link
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Michael Scotto
@MikeAScotto
The New York Knicks are interested in buying another second-round pick, league sources told @TheAthleticNBA. Currently, New York has the No. 3 and 55 picks in the draft.
RE: Knicks apparently asked at least one tam for a 2nd rounder for Frank  
Enzo : 6/20/2019 4:50 pm : link
In comment 14478038 Strahan91 said:
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according to Begley Link - ( New Window )

I'd rather just keep him.
RE: Not exactly earth-shattering...  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14478098 bceagle05 said:
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Michael Scotto
@MikeAScotto
The New York Knicks are interested in buying another second-round pick, league sources told @TheAthleticNBA. Currently, New York has the No. 3 and 55 picks in the draft.



i would love a chance at bazley
RE: RE: Knicks apparently asked at least one tam for a 2nd rounder for Frank  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14478100 Enzo said:
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In comment 14478038 Strahan91 said:


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according to Begley Link - ( New Window )


I'd rather just keep him.


ots more to clear the 5 million
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