Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.
So it looks like we already know the top 3.
1. Zion
2. Ja Morant
3. RJ Barrett
Does Frank get traded today for an additional second?
I might be crazy but I think Barrett has a higher NBA ceiling than Zion. Zions college game revolved around beating up on a bunch of undersized or unskilled big men around the rim. He doesnt have any range shooting the ball. He doesnt have the build or athleticism to create like a Giannis, Lebron, or Kawhi.
Barrett on the other hand just seems like one of those guys who ends up being a better pro than college player.
Zion had a better percentage from 3 than Barrett did.
But re: Zion, he has a ton more bball skill than people seem to appreciate, in spite of being raw. Those full court bounce passes are pure vision & passing ability, at F no less. There's NBA PGs who don't do that. A big who can handle on the break, drive, and has fantastic body control near the rim, as well as hand eye coordination for double clutches & to protect the ball. Not a great shooter, sure, but he serviceable (where Mitch took all of 2 shots outside the paint or something)
And he will be a terror on D, moreso than Mitch given his ridic athleticism. IMO that's his floor, and still includes a shot at DPOY down the road
Lakers reportedly traded the #4 to New Orleans as part of the Davis trade, and then it was reported the Hawks traded for the that pick. Officially, the Lakers selected Hunter. So who, exactly, made that selection? Did the Hawks dictate the pick, etc.? Sounds a little risky to me. What if something happens and the trade falls through? I remember Len Bias dying basically the day after the draft. Trades can always fall through. Shit happens.
Reports that the Lakers want to rework the Davis deal because they didn't realize they hadn't left cap room for a max are hilarious. As a Knicks fan, it's nice to see the Lakers the LAKERS!!! bumbling like this. #schadenfreude
I might be crazy but I think Barrett has a higher NBA ceiling than Zion. Zions college game revolved around beating up on a bunch of undersized or unskilled big men around the rim. He doesnt have any range shooting the ball. He doesnt have the build or athleticism to create like a Giannis, Lebron, or Kawhi.
Barrett on the other hand just seems like one of those guys who ends up being a better pro than college player.
Zion had a better percentage from 3 than Barrett did.
I watch a decent amount of college ball and teams let Zion shoot 3s. Similar to how teams let Giannis shoot 3s. That doesnt make Zion a decent shooter because he had decent stats. His game was bullying people down low. That wont fly at the next level he has to develop a shot outside of 5 feet from the rim if hes going to be anywhere near the hype people are making him out to be.
Lakers reportedly traded the #4 to New Orleans as part of the Davis trade, and then it was reported the Hawks traded for the that pick. Officially, the Lakers selected Hunter. So who, exactly, made that selection? Did the Hawks dictate the pick, etc.? Sounds a little risky to me. What if something happens and the trade falls through? I remember Len Bias dying basically the day after the draft. Trades can always fall through. Shit happens.
Reports that the Lakers want to rework the Davis deal because they didn't realize they hadn't left cap room for a max are hilarious. As a Knicks fan, it's nice to see the Lakers the LAKERS!!! bumbling like this. #schadenfreude
according to woj the lakers agreed that if the pelicans made it a 3 team trade it would be done july 6th, so basicslly lakers will not have max space
RE: WillVAB it's not crazy that RJB could end up the better pro
But re: Zion, he has a ton more bball skill than people seem to appreciate, in spite of being raw. Those full court bounce passes are pure vision & passing ability, at F no less. There's NBA PGs who don't do that. A big who can handle on the break, drive, and has fantastic body control near the rim, as well as hand eye coordination for double clutches & to protect the ball. Not a great shooter, sure, but he serviceable (where Mitch took all of 2 shots outside the paint or something)
And he will be a terror on D, moreso than Mitch given his ridic athleticism. IMO that's his floor, and still includes a shot at DPOY down the road
Yea but he just doesnt have the body or style to take people off the dribble like a Lebron, Durant, Giannis, etc. He just seems like more of a classic Karl Malone type player without range.
Im not a basketball expert and I may be completely wrong. But to my eyes Zion looks more like a classic post up big man who cleans up on the glass and doesnt do much more than that assuming his shot doesnt improve from college.
But re: Zion, he has a ton more bball skill than people seem to appreciate, in spite of being raw. Those full court bounce passes are pure vision & passing ability, at F no less. There's NBA PGs who don't do that. A big who can handle on the break, drive, and has fantastic body control near the rim, as well as hand eye coordination for double clutches & to protect the ball. Not a great shooter, sure, but he serviceable (where Mitch took all of 2 shots outside the paint or something)
And he will be a terror on D, moreso than Mitch given his ridic athleticism. IMO that's his floor, and still includes a shot at DPOY down the road
Yea but he just doesnt have the body or style to take people off the dribble like a Lebron, Durant, Giannis, etc. He just seems like more of a classic Karl Malone type player without range.
Im not a basketball expert and I may be completely wrong. But to my eyes Zion looks more like a classic post up big man who cleans up on the glass and doesnt do much more than that assuming his shot doesnt improve from college.
To be fair to zion, he's not just a big body. He's a frightening athlete for his size.
than that. Of course he's not LeBron - not a pt-fwd, but he can start the play w/ the ball on occasion as well as make the basic required passes to the wing & post, so IMO it's not the weakness your describing. But he's still raw so it's going to take some adjusting, you're right about that. I see his O being functional as is even if he didn't develop much. And again, to me given the love for Mitch's all D skillset, he doesn't even have to in order to be a useful player b/c I think he'll be better than Mitch at Mitch things (like perimeter blocks for example)
We'll see in time. I love RJB, but certainly would have preferred landing at #1 & Zion
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I watched 2 or 3 Dubs games this season & Thybulle is a very good defensive player. His offense is meh. He needs to work on it to become a good two way player.
I watched 2 or 3 Dubs games this season & Thybulle is a very good defensive player. His offense is meh. He needs to work on it to become a good two way player.
Haven't seen him, but from the description I'm picturing Roberson in OKC or Thabo Sefolosha former OKC. I think TS was a serviceable shooter from 3. And that might sum up their all their offensive skills collectively
RE: RE: RE: WillVAB it's not crazy that RJB could end up the better pro
But re: Zion, he has a ton more bball skill than people seem to appreciate, in spite of being raw. Those full court bounce passes are pure vision & passing ability, at F no less. There's NBA PGs who don't do that. A big who can handle on the break, drive, and has fantastic body control near the rim, as well as hand eye coordination for double clutches & to protect the ball. Not a great shooter, sure, but he serviceable (where Mitch took all of 2 shots outside the paint or something)
And he will be a terror on D, moreso than Mitch given his ridic athleticism. IMO that's his floor, and still includes a shot at DPOY down the road
Yea but he just doesnt have the body or style to take people off the dribble like a Lebron, Durant, Giannis, etc. He just seems like more of a classic Karl Malone type player without range.
Im not a basketball expert and I may be completely wrong. But to my eyes Zion looks more like a classic post up big man who cleans up on the glass and doesnt do much more than that assuming his shot doesnt improve from college.
To be fair to zion, he's not just a big body. He's a frightening athlete for his size.
I agree, but its hard to find a present day NBA comparison. Maybe Drummond?
I think people expect him to be the next elite guy and I just dont see it unless he does some serious work to his game.
Nets already had enough cap room for two 30% max players (I.e. Tobias and Kyrie). Move now gets them very closer to one 30% max and one 35% max (KD and Kyrie) without trading Joe Harris or Spencer Dinwiddie.
Obv interest in RJ, but will be interesting to see Knox, he was a top SL player last year fwiw. I wonder who else will play, if not all the obvious candidates
Barrett needs to be a better shooter or else he's another body on the pile of mediocre NBA SGs.
I might be crazy but I think Barrett has a higher NBA ceiling than Zion. Zions college game revolved around beating up on a bunch of undersized or unskilled big men around the rim. He doesnt have any range shooting the ball. He doesnt have the build or athleticism to create like a Giannis, Lebron, or Kawhi.
Barrett on the other hand just seems like one of those guys who ends up being a better pro than college player.
Zion had a better percentage from 3 than Barrett did.
And he will be a terror on D, moreso than Mitch given his ridic athleticism. IMO that's his floor, and still includes a shot at DPOY down the road
Reports that the Lakers want to rework the Davis deal because they didn't realize they hadn't left cap room for a max are hilarious. As a Knicks fan, it's nice to see the Lakers the LAKERS!!! bumbling like this. #schadenfreude
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I might be crazy but I think Barrett has a higher NBA ceiling than Zion. Zions college game revolved around beating up on a bunch of undersized or unskilled big men around the rim. He doesnt have any range shooting the ball. He doesnt have the build or athleticism to create like a Giannis, Lebron, or Kawhi.
Barrett on the other hand just seems like one of those guys who ends up being a better pro than college player.
Zion had a better percentage from 3 than Barrett did.
I watch a decent amount of college ball and teams let Zion shoot 3s. Similar to how teams let Giannis shoot 3s. That doesnt make Zion a decent shooter because he had decent stats. His game was bullying people down low. That wont fly at the next level he has to develop a shot outside of 5 feet from the rim if hes going to be anywhere near the hype people are making him out to be.
Reports that the Lakers want to rework the Davis deal because they didn't realize they hadn't left cap room for a max are hilarious. As a Knicks fan, it's nice to see the Lakers the LAKERS!!! bumbling like this. #schadenfreude
according to woj the lakers agreed that if the pelicans made it a 3 team trade it would be done july 6th, so basicslly lakers will not have max space
And he will be a terror on D, moreso than Mitch given his ridic athleticism. IMO that's his floor, and still includes a shot at DPOY down the road
Yea but he just doesnt have the body or style to take people off the dribble like a Lebron, Durant, Giannis, etc. He just seems like more of a classic Karl Malone type player without range.
Im not a basketball expert and I may be completely wrong. But to my eyes Zion looks more like a classic post up big man who cleans up on the glass and doesnt do much more than that assuming his shot doesnt improve from college.
I've seen my fair share of Hokies (Greg's favorite team) games. He's pretty good, though I'm not in love with him like Bilas.
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But re: Zion, he has a ton more bball skill than people seem to appreciate, in spite of being raw. Those full court bounce passes are pure vision & passing ability, at F no less. There's NBA PGs who don't do that. A big who can handle on the break, drive, and has fantastic body control near the rim, as well as hand eye coordination for double clutches & to protect the ball. Not a great shooter, sure, but he serviceable (where Mitch took all of 2 shots outside the paint or something)
And he will be a terror on D, moreso than Mitch given his ridic athleticism. IMO that's his floor, and still includes a shot at DPOY down the road
Yea but he just doesnt have the body or style to take people off the dribble like a Lebron, Durant, Giannis, etc. He just seems like more of a classic Karl Malone type player without range.
Im not a basketball expert and I may be completely wrong. But to my eyes Zion looks more like a classic post up big man who cleans up on the glass and doesnt do much more than that assuming his shot doesnt improve from college.
To be fair to zion, he's not just a big body. He's a frightening athlete for his size.
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according to woj the lakers agreed that if the pelicans made it a 3 team trade it would be done july 6th, so basicslly lakers will not have max space
So who made that pick, and is Hunter going to bed a Laker, a Pelican or a Hawk?
hawks made the pick, deal just cant be made official until july 6th
We'll see in time. I love RJB, but certainly would have preferred landing at #1 & Zion
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Will root for his success
Will root for his success
Right? Has mama's traits of always fighting
The Disruptor. Awesome defensive nickname
I think Little would be a great pick at this point too.
Haven't seen him, but from the description I'm picturing Roberson in OKC or Thabo Sefolosha former OKC. I think TS was a serviceable shooter from 3. And that might sum up their all their offensive skills collectively
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But re: Zion, he has a ton more bball skill than people seem to appreciate, in spite of being raw. Those full court bounce passes are pure vision & passing ability, at F no less. There's NBA PGs who don't do that. A big who can handle on the break, drive, and has fantastic body control near the rim, as well as hand eye coordination for double clutches & to protect the ball. Not a great shooter, sure, but he serviceable (where Mitch took all of 2 shots outside the paint or something)
And he will be a terror on D, moreso than Mitch given his ridic athleticism. IMO that's his floor, and still includes a shot at DPOY down the road
Yea but he just doesnt have the body or style to take people off the dribble like a Lebron, Durant, Giannis, etc. He just seems like more of a classic Karl Malone type player without range.
Im not a basketball expert and I may be completely wrong. But to my eyes Zion looks more like a classic post up big man who cleans up on the glass and doesnt do much more than that assuming his shot doesnt improve from college.
To be fair to zion, he's not just a big body. He's a frightening athlete for his size.
I agree, but its hard to find a present day NBA comparison. Maybe Drummond?
I think people expect him to be the next elite guy and I just dont see it unless he does some serious work to his game.
They were also one of the only teams who showed up for Bols last event.
Kevin Porter also has been buzzed to Brooklyn. Interesting pick coming up.
Yikes. Nothing in their game is similar.
Who wants to fuckin connect the dots on all these random trades and you have no idea whos going where.
They just said Philly was picking Jerome for Boston but then they sad Phoenix.
Yikes. Nothing in their game is similar.
Yea thats ridiculous. I see a bit of UNLV early NBA version Larry Johnson in Zion.
Who wants to fuckin connect the dots on all these random trades and you have no idea whos going where.
They just said Philly was picking Jerome for Boston but then they sad Phoenix.
They just need to move the official trade / FA date in front of the draft
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as a comparison for Zion?
Yikes. Nothing in their game is similar.
Yea thats ridiculous. I see a bit of UNLV early NBA version Larry Johnson in Zion.
Never thought of LJ. That's a solid comp
Not even like KP - great pick, but idiots booed, and most didn't know who he was
Now just ball RJ!
Nets traded the pick to the Clippers.
I love getting irrationally excited about players.
Sixers first next year and #55.
One would hope, with the Nets clearly all-in on this strategy, that they have some handshakes and head nods from folks at this point.
Just have to dump Shabazz Napier (1.9M).
Bol Bols medicals really must be a disaster. Feel sorry for him.