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Jints in Carolina : 6/20/2019 3:44 pm
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Giving Up Homers, Though  
Percy : 6/20/2019 11:02 pm : link
As they have tonight, is hardly a cause for celebration, I guess.
RE: Never seen Stanton dog it  
adamg : 6/20/2019 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14478583 dune69 said:
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on ground balls. Even when he will clearly be out he runs full speed.


+1 Stanton is a pro.
You may want to get him out of there  
Jints in Carolina : 6/20/2019 11:02 pm : link
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Hale barely squeezed out of the  
section125 : 6/20/2019 11:03 pm : link
8th and of course he looks like shit in the 9th (after we praised Boone's use of the pen);
agree dune  
Bill2 : 6/20/2019 11:05 pm : link
he is a professional. One of the reasons he is considered a good teammate (both with the Marlins and here).

For a star he certainly is not a prima donna
Hale  
Bill2 : 6/20/2019 11:06 pm : link
does not have options. But he is saving the bullpen for the rest of the series
Geezus  
section125 : 6/20/2019 11:08 pm : link
Maybin blew that....
Kinda crappy  
Mike from SI : 6/20/2019 11:12 pm : link
to have to use Chappy here. But let's just secure this win and call it a night. The rest of the big guns will be rested tomorrow unless something goes horribly wrong.
RE: Geezus  
Jints in Carolina : 6/20/2019 11:13 pm : link
In comment 14478596 section125 said:
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Maybin blew that....


No clue what Paul O'Neill was thinking when he said great effort. He totally botched that play.
That may have been Boone's  
section125 : 6/20/2019 11:14 pm : link
worst job this year. This guy was on fumes getting out of the 8th. Hale's had about 4 guys way down in the count and could not put them away.
I understand saving the pen, but that was just ludicuis.
When you..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/20/2019 11:17 pm : link
have a 7-run lead, taking a chance on saving the pen isn't a mistake at all.

The way some of you guys analyze the use of relief pitchers is really unrealistic.
Chappy hitting 102?  
adamg : 6/20/2019 11:17 pm : link
He should really slow it down a bit. It's unfair to the other guys.
I much prefer Boone's  
adamg : 6/20/2019 11:18 pm : link
one batter too long, to Girardi's one batter too early.
Nice win!  
adamg : 6/20/2019 11:19 pm : link
Jints, you're hired brother. It's a streak now.
RE: When you..  
yatqb : 6/20/2019 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14478608 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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have a 7-run lead, taking a chance on saving the pen isn't a mistake at all.

The way some of you guys analyze the use of relief pitchers is really unrealistic.


I agree, FM. Great win. Some team. And here comes da Judge!
Great win!  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2019 11:21 pm : link
And Judge back tomorrow. BOOM.
Meh, no harm no foul  
Hsilwek92 : 6/20/2019 11:21 pm : link
Score looks closer than it really was. Yanks scored in bunches when it counted and the Astros didnt.

1 down, 3 to go.
RE: When you..  
section125 : 6/20/2019 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14478608 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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have a 7-run lead, taking a chance on saving the pen isn't a mistake at all.

The way some of you guys analyze the use of relief pitchers is really unrealistic.


Fats he was out of gas. It was obvious as hell. Yeah nice to get by if you can, but after Hale couldn't get an out with several 2 strike counts with 2 outs, he should have been pulled. You cannot allow a team like the Astros to hang around. He had some cushion, yes but you not only subject the pitcher to excess pitches, but Sanchez too.
Back to 20 games over .500, too.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2019 11:24 pm : link
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I'm more with FMiC on this.  
Mike from SI : 6/20/2019 11:25 pm : link
But I don't think it's worth getting bent out of shape about either way. It's a great night to be a Yankees fan.
RE: Back to 20 games over .500, too.  
section125 : 6/20/2019 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14478617 Dave in Hoboken said:
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And they have almost caught the Astros. Think they are percentage points ahead..

Twinkies lost to the Royals. 1 game back in the loss column.
Yanks looking really good right now!  
prdave73 : 6/20/2019 11:37 pm : link
Personally I dont think they have the pitching staff to make the WS, but they sure do have the bats to do it! I think this team is banking on the bats getting them there. Hoping it pays off!
prdave with his usual optimism  
adamg : 6/20/2019 11:40 pm : link
Thanks for coming out of your hole after a win as a change of pace...
Someone on the postgame  
Mike from SI : 6/20/2019 11:46 pm : link
said he heard from a source that Maybin isn't going anywhere.
RE: Someone on the postgame  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2019 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14478631 Mike from SI said:
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said he heard from a source that Maybin isn't going anywhere.


I really hope so. He shouldn't go anywhere.
My guess is either Cortes is sent down  
JPinstripes : 6/20/2019 11:51 pm : link
or Hale is DFA before Maybin.

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Will repeat what Ive been saying for a few days: Cameron Maybin isnt going anywhere. He will remain on the 25-man roster when Judge is activated.

Official Cortes Optioned  
JPinstripes : 6/20/2019 11:53 pm : link
Maybin remains with NYY
RE: I'm more with FMiC on this.  
Del Shofner : 6/21/2019 12:07 am : link
In comment 14478620 Mike from SI said:
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But I don't think it's worth getting bent out of shape about either way. It's a great night to be a Yankees fan.


Same here. He's putting trust in guys like Cortes and Hale and, big picture, it's been paying off.

Yanks making a smart move to option Cortes instead of DFA'ing Maybin too. Rewarding good play. Oh - and Frazier hit a monster HR for the Railriders tonight. All of a sudden we've gone from not enough outfielders to 6 good ones. Good to see Stanton get 3 hits as well.
RE: When you..  
Deejboy : 6/21/2019 3:23 am : link
In comment 14478608 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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have a 7-run lead, taking a chance on saving the pen isn't a mistake at all.

The way some of you guys analyze the use of relief pitchers is really unrealistic.

They get too emotionally involved and backseat manage too much. Such are fans.
Rays Lost  
GruningsOnTheHill : 6/21/2019 5:32 am : link
Closer deuced the bed; couldnt protect a 4-1 lead.

Yankees now up by 4.5 games.
RE: I much prefer Boone's  
Eman11 : 6/21/2019 6:36 am : link
In comment 14478610 adamg said:
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one batter too long, to Girardi's one batter too early.


Not me. Girardi IMO really knew how to use his pen well.

I don't want any manager leaving a pitcher in one batter too long. That could prove to be disastrous. Why wouldn't you want a manager getting a guy out of the game before its possibly too late?

Seems to me a manager is on top of what's going on when he doesn't let a reliever go one pitch or batter too long.

Now, having said all that I had no problem with Boone leaving Hale in last night like he did. A seven run lead isn't the situation I'm talking about with my above comments, it's the close game that can change with one swing.
Because the Yankees aren't hitting enough home runs...  
M.S. : 6/21/2019 6:53 am : link

...here comes Aaron Judge.
good time at the game last night  
mfsd : 6/21/2019 7:10 am : link
we fortunately had seats just under the 2nd deck overhang, so stayed dry when the rain hit...a couple random musings...

- Great fun seeing the Yanks hit like that...Stros starter sliced through our bats 1st time through, then boom

- Yanks defense was on display...outfield range, and smooth work around the infield. That's an area that's been a real upgrade over last year...LeMahieu makes a big difference wherever he's playing

- Fired up to hear they're sticking with Maybin...he brings a lot to the roster, including a better than expected stick. Gives Boone a lot of flexibility for rest days and more potential injuries in the 2nd half.

- I expect they'll be going with the Scranton shuttle to swap out fresh long relievers, at least until they can figure out a 5th starter. Solid work by Cortes following Green last night, he'll be back

- Split a little early to beat crowd to the 4 train, so didn't see Hale lose it late, but on balance Boone's done a fine job with the pen this year. Sure, second guessing leaving Hale in too long is fair after last night, but turning it into a Boone's stupid and sucks at managing the bullpen narrative is silly

Overall, Yanks are ripping. This lineup will be getting in the head of opposing pitchers...zero breaks 1-9 when at full strength
Great news that Maybin is  
section125 : 6/21/2019 7:41 am : link
staying. I think O'Neill thought they would, seeing as how both Judge and Stanton are fresh off the IL and this allows additional time off for both.
German should be coming off IL  
section125 : 6/21/2019 7:58 am : link
soon. Who goes when he is ready? Holder has options. Only other pitcher is Cessa who has no options.
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Kyle in NY : 6/21/2019 9:39 am : link
Thrilled to see Maybin stick. Beyond his very good performance, he seems to be really well liked by his teammates and Boone spoke to how positive he's been in the clubhouse. Maybin also spoke to the changes the hitting coaches have made with him to work on getting the ball in the air more and utilizing his strength and athletic ability. He's earned his spot

Overall that's something that's struck me watching this group, just seems to be a very close team having a ton of fun right now. A very strong clubouse right now. Encarnacion seems like he fits right in already too.

And now the Judge returns, look out!
I have to think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/21/2019 9:40 am : link
the Yanks are really mulling over a Gardner vs. Maybin decision if the time comes to make a roster move for a position player.
there is no way in hell they are going to dump Gardner  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2019 9:44 am : link
Not for a one month wonder who has been average at best over ten years in the major leagues.
RE: German should be coming off IL  
JPinstripes : 6/21/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14478749 section125 said:
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soon. Who goes when he is ready? Holder has options. Only other pitcher is Cessa who has no options.


Guessing Hale?
Guessing Hale  
JPinstripes : 6/21/2019 10:10 am : link
*** Knowing he will be DFA
RE: RE: German should be coming off IL  
Carson53 : 6/21/2019 10:13 am : link
In comment 14478895 JPinstripes said:
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In comment 14478749 section125 said:


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soon. Who goes when he is ready? Holder has options. Only other pitcher is Cessa who has no options.



Guessing Hale?


I would dump Cessa, the Yanks probably won't.
He is garbage.
Cessa has good stuff  
JPinstripes : 6/21/2019 10:16 am : link
should return a PTBNL or cash considerations in a small trade.
RE: Cessa has good stuff  
Carson53 : 6/21/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14478906 JPinstripes said:
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should return a PTBNL or cash considerations in a small trade.
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Too bad that hasn't translated into a good major league pitcher. He's been around long enough to have figured it out by now, and hasn't done it. I don't think you could even get a PTBNL for him, maybe a little cash.
Yankees  
Bill2 : 6/21/2019 10:45 am : link
Can trade low value players like Cessa for International pool dollars?

They seem to like going into the annual International Signing pools with close to max available dollars
Sorry if its been discussed  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/21/2019 11:01 am : link
But why not try a Green as a starter
they've tried it before with disastrous results  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2019 11:03 am : link
He's a one pitch pitcher whose success is entirely dependent on his fastball. You can't go through a lineup multiple times that way.
the background on that  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2019 11:05 am : link
Green as a starter in 2016: 8 starts, 2-4, 5.94, 12(!) homers in 36.1 innings.
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arcarsenal : 6/21/2019 11:38 am : link
I'd try to see if Cessa can get us cash or some low level PTBNL. There are a lot of really awful bullpens out there right now - someone might bite.

If not, I'm not opposed to just going the DFA route. Someone claims him, so be it. I think I like Hale more for that role going forward. Cortes looks like he's emerging as a guy who can also pitch several relief innings - he seems to be thriving as Greenie's piggyback in BP games.

So, while Nestor will be the casualty right now for Judge - he's going to be back sooner than later. We're going to have to do a little roster crunching, though.

Morales will also likely be gone once he's healthy.

I can't wait to see this lineup tonight with 99 in it.

The Death Star will be complete (offensively, at least..)
Cortes for Judge  
RasputinPrime : 6/21/2019 1:02 pm : link
Maybin stays for now.
RE: Official Cortes Optioned  
Percy : 6/21/2019 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14478640 JPinstripes said:
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Maybin remains with NYY

Excellent news!
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