OBJ
Interview with Complex UK concerning the “OBJ Euro Tour,”
“I just felt with the Giants I was just stuck at a place that wasn’t working for me anymore. I felt like I wasn’t going to be able to reach my full potential there; mentally, physically, spiritually, everything I felt capable of doing, I just couldn’t see it happening there,” Beckham said. “So I think allowing me to be in an environment where I can be myself and give it a different approach, I feel like my football will benefit. I’m just excited about being able to play football again and not have to deal with all the other stuff and politics that came with my previous role.”
https://www.complex.com/sports/2019/06/odell-beckham-jr-interview
Berhe
D’Ardoo 247 Sports: Nat Berhe would welcome training camp invite from Steelers
"I love those guys in NY," he said. "Its unfortunate we couldn't win more games but that wasn't for a lack of 'want to' by anyone in the organization."
https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Nat-Berhe-would-welcome-training-camp-invite-from-Steelers--133027698/Amp/ 
I’m very happy about Me and Me is doing great now and I’m building My LEGEND!”
Eli and his long ball lost its wings.
As if "all the other stuff" was just something that was foisted upon you and existed in a vacuum completely independent of your choices and actions. The lack of self awareness is staggering.
I feel stupid having had defended him as much as I did - but, I guess that's what you do when the Giants are starved for talent - you make excuses for talent.
These quotes are fucking cringeworthy. He talks like he's Prince or something.
I feel stupid having had defended him as much as I did - but, I guess that's what you do when the Giants are starved for talent - you make excuses for talent.
These quotes are fucking cringeworthy. He talks like he's Prince or something.
Prince! Yes! Holy shit that's a perfect comparison. A genius level talent who is absolutely out of his mind.
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I’m just excited about being able to play football again and not have to deal with all the other stuff and politics that came with my previous role.”
As if "all the other stuff" was just something that was foisted upon you and existed in a vacuum completely independent of your choices and actions. The lack of self awareness is staggering.
+1, very well said.
Odell, just STFU. You sound like a clown.
He was a superior talent and I still wish the Giants hadn't traded him.
It is funny though that so many posters defended his actions when he was a Giant, but now that he's not he's derided by almost everyone on this board.
You say OBJ used the word "spiritually"? OMG, it's a good thing we traded him!
Never said it was just that.
How are your Mets doing these days?
If if they Jets start winning will you be switching teams again?
Just curious.
You're right - I'm dying to start rooting for a football team that hasn't played in a Super Bowl since we've had color TV, has one winning season this decade and has won one championship to the Giants' 4.
Got me there.
Giants ROY Winners - ( New Window )
You're right - I'm dying to start rooting for a football team that hasn't played in a Super Bowl since we've had color TV, has one winning season this decade and has won one championship to the Giants' 4.
Got me there.
That's right I forgot. You only switch teams when the other team has a winning record. My bad.
You say OBJ used the word "spiritually"? OMG, it's a good thing we traded him!
Oh c'mon, this isn't religious persecution. It's annoyance at the idea that anything the organization did or prevented him from doing that didn't allow him to reach his spiritual potential. He's full of shit. It's not even ego at this point. The guy is a narcissist.
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You're about the 20th idiot to attempt that analogy.
You're right - I'm dying to start rooting for a football team that hasn't played in a Super Bowl since we've had color TV, has one winning season this decade and has won one championship to the Giants' 4.
Got me there.
That's right I forgot. You only switch teams when the other team has a winning record. My bad.
Yeah, I'm sorry you had to reach for something totally unrelated to respond to someone who disagreed with your shitty take.
Your bad.
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You say OBJ used the word "spiritually"? OMG, it's a good thing we traded him!
Oh c'mon, this isn't religious persecution. It's annoyance at the idea that anything the organization did or prevented him from doing that didn't allow him to reach his spiritual potential. He's full of shit. It's not even ego at this point. The guy is a narcissist.
I don't deny that OBJ is full of shit, a narcissist and an a-hole. I just don't think any of that stuff really mattered.
He was a great player who played hard and well-respected in the clubhouse. I personally would have overlooked all the diva stuff.
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You're about the 20th idiot to attempt that analogy.
You're right - I'm dying to start rooting for a football team that hasn't played in a Super Bowl since we've had color TV, has one winning season this decade and has won one championship to the Giants' 4.
Got me there.
That's right I forgot. You only switch teams when the other team has a winning record. My bad.
Yeah, I'm sorry you had to reach for something totally unrelated to respond to someone who disagreed with your shitty take.
Your bad.
I've ignored your posts since draft day. You're the one that engaged with me your shitty take.
A number of people referenced "spiritually" in their posts on this thread and I addressed that. Never said it was the only issue with OBJ.
My bet is he drops a Beker Mayfield pass like he did this beautiful easy and perfect pitch from Eli, in the biggest game of his career, and Mayfield will have a bigger reaction than the disgusted look on Eli's face, which is nicely caught in this video.
Dude, you were lame when we needed you once. STFU.
In Green Bay, OBJ was no Plax. - ( New Window )
He was a superior talent and I still wish the Giants hadn't traded him.
It is funny though that so many posters defended his actions when he was a Giant, but now that he's not he's derided by almost everyone on this board.
You say OBJ used the word "spiritually"? OMG, it's a good thing we traded him!
Its almost like a lot of fans put up with his BS b/c he was on their favorite team, but once he left their favorite team, they....stopped putting up with his antics?
After what immature comment are fans allowed to switch their stance on him?
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You're about the 20th idiot to attempt that analogy.
You're right - I'm dying to start rooting for a football team that hasn't played in a Super Bowl since we've had color TV, has one winning season this decade and has won one championship to the Giants' 4.
Got me there.
That's right I forgot. You only switch teams when the other team has a winning record. My bad.
Yeah, I'm sorry you had to reach for something totally unrelated to respond to someone who disagreed with your shitty take.
Your bad.
I've ignored your posts since draft day. You're the one that engaged with me your shitty take.
A number of people referenced "spiritually" in their posts on this thread and I addressed that. Never said it was the only issue with OBJ.
Apparently not. I didn't quote you or mention your handle anywhere in my first response, so the lie detector test has determined that to be a lie.
Thanks for letting me know, though! I'm sad to see you go.
If you could, please let me know what your reason for unsubscribing was.
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He played hard, wanted badly to win and his teammates loved him. Those things far outweighed the diva-personality drawbacks.
He was a superior talent and I still wish the Giants hadn't traded him.
It is funny though that so many posters defended his actions when he was a Giant, but now that he's not he's derided by almost everyone on this board.
You say OBJ used the word "spiritually"? OMG, it's a good thing we traded him!
Its almost like a lot of fans put up with his BS b/c he was on their favorite team, but once he left their favorite team, they....stopped putting up with his antics?
After what immature comment are fans allowed to switch their stance on him?
You're not allowed to change your stance. Ever.
It doesn't matter if new information comes out, it doesn't matter if behavior you had hoped would change never changes. It doesn't matter what team he plays for.
If you defended him when he was here, you MUST continue to do so no matter what he does from here on out, because... well...
I don't know, actually. But, that seems to be what some posters believe everyone should do.
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You're about the 20th idiot to attempt that analogy.
You're right - I'm dying to start rooting for a football team that hasn't played in a Super Bowl since we've had color TV, has one winning season this decade and has won one championship to the Giants' 4.
Got me there.
That's right I forgot. You only switch teams when the other team has a winning record. My bad.
Yeah, I'm sorry you had to reach for something totally unrelated to respond to someone who disagreed with your shitty take.
Your bad.
I've ignored your posts since draft day. You're the one that engaged with me your shitty take.
A number of people referenced "spiritually" in their posts on this thread and I addressed that. Never said it was the only issue with OBJ.
Apparently not. I didn't quote you or mention your handle anywhere in my first response, so the lie detector test has determined that to be a lie.
Thanks for letting me know, though! I'm sad to see you go.
If you could, please let me know what your reason for unsubscribing was.
You original comment directly followed my post and was a direct reference to my comment about "spiritually".
Suggesting that is was anything but is a joke.
As far as the other nonsense in your latest post, I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but I'm not going anywhere.
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He played hard, wanted badly to win and his teammates loved him. Those things far outweighed the diva-personality drawbacks.
He was a superior talent and I still wish the Giants hadn't traded him.
It is funny though that so many posters defended his actions when he was a Giant, but now that he's not he's derided by almost everyone on this board.
You say OBJ used the word "spiritually"? OMG, it's a good thing we traded him!
Its almost like a lot of fans put up with his BS b/c he was on their favorite team, but once he left their favorite team, they....stopped putting up with his antics?
After what immature comment are fans allowed to switch their stance on him?
You're not allowed to change your stance. Ever.
It doesn't matter if new information comes out, it doesn't matter if behavior you had hoped would change never changes. It doesn't matter what team he plays for.
If you defended him when he was here, you MUST continue to do so no matter what he does from here on out, because... well...
I don't know, actually. But, that seems to be what some posters believe everyone should do.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's called being objective about a player and the player's action and not excusing his behavior when he's on your team and then immediately condemning that same behavior when he's not on your team any more.
I doubt people switched their position on OBJ because of "new information".
Enjoy continuing to care about the sports teams I root for and pretending to ignore me - I haven't the slightest idea what teams you root for outside of the Giants because unlike you, I actually really don't give a shit.
Take care.
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You say OBJ used the word "spiritually"? OMG, it's a good thing we traded him!
Oh c'mon, this isn't religious persecution. It's annoyance at the idea that anything the organization did or prevented him from doing that didn't allow him to reach his spiritual potential. He's full of shit. It's not even ego at this point. The guy is a narcissist.
I don't deny that OBJ is full of shit, a narcissist and an a-hole. I just don't think any of that stuff really mattered.
He was a great player who played hard and well-respected in the clubhouse. I personally would have overlooked all the diva stuff.
You can be a great player who played hard and was well-liked/respected but also be bad for the locker room. They aren't mutually exclusive concepts.
And the spirituality thing is just a painfully tone deaf comment. If he's taking some accountability and saying "that city at that time in my life, I just didn't make the best of it", I think he'd be applauded. But he's doing the exact opposite and implying it was something about the organization that prevented him from reaching his potential. The guy is full of shit, and it doesn't seem like he has a single person in his life who can tell him.
An interesting tidbit that his idols growing up were Lil Wayne Allen Iverson Randy Moss and mike vick...four honorable men!
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He really just doesn't get it.
I feel stupid having had defended him as much as I did - but, I guess that's what you do when the Giants are starved for talent - you make excuses for talent.
These quotes are fucking cringeworthy. He talks like he's Prince or something.
Prince! Yes! Holy shit that's a perfect comparison. A genius level talent who is absolutely out of his mind.
I would not be surprised if OBJ changed his name into a symbol. Tom Brady copy righting Tom Terrific levels of douchiness.
He was a great player who played hard and well-respected in the clubhouse.
But the problem may have been that the character of the clubhouse itself had a ceiling, partly imposed by his personality.
People kept saying how his teammates always lauded him as a great teammate. Not necessarily meaningful. "In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king" and all that.
Ummm - you were jettisoned there big guy.
That was the one thing that jumped out at me. Give me a break.
That was the moment the spirit left him. Unable to fill it back in after that.
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“I just felt with the Giants I was just stuck at a place that wasn’t working for me anymore. I felt like I wasn’t going to be able to reach my full potential there; mentally, physically, spiritually, everything I felt capable of doing, I just couldn’t see it happening there,”
Ummm - you were jettisoned there big guy.
Exactly FMIC. This is a narcissistic person trying to take control of a situation they had no real control over. He just lacks any sense of humility. The reporter wasn’t even really baiting him into a response like this. A response along the lines of “yes, this will be a big change. I enjoyed my time with NY and I’ll miss my teammates, but I am ready to do everything I can to help the Cleveland franchise win a Super Bowl” would have been the response of an adult.
It sure beats...
We're Not Detroit - ( New Window )
The things OBJ said or did off the field never bothered me because he left it all on the field. A lot of these generationaly talented athletes are insane: AB is the Batman to OBJs Robin; Tom Brady thinks staying hydrated prevents sunburn; LT, TO, etc. I think a guy like Barkley, who seems very normal, is the exception, rather than the rule.
I think the average grounded person looks at some of these superstar personality quirks and goes, "I would never act like that." Part of what makes these people insanely good is that chip on their shoulder, that mentality/persona/drive/whatever they created to become that person to succeed at a high level.
So when fans want superstars to act like a normal person, I think you have to understand that they probably would not have become the players that they are if they acted normal.