It appears the Knicks had another solid draft, however only time will tell.
Pick 3- R.J. Barrett (Duke)
He was the consensus #1 overall pick for several years before Zion blew up. Tremendous slasher, I think he will have more success on a spaced NBA floor. Not for nothing, he averaged over 4 assists a game as a freshman this past season. With an improved jumper can he become a player similar to James Harden?
Pick 47- Ignas "Iggy" Brazdeikis (Michigan)
A small forward that can hit the outside shot as well as bang around in the paint. He was a teammate of Barrett's in Canada. A huge trash talker that may win over the NY fanbase. Athleticism and defense are troubling concerns. I still think he can find a strong role in NY.
UDFA- Kris Wilkes (UCLA)
Signed a two-way contract with the Knicks. A 6'7" SF with guard ability. UCLA was atrocious, I'm hoping he flew under the radar because of this. He is a former McDonald's All-American.
UDFA- Amir Hinton (Shaw- Division II)
Hinton will get a shot with the Knicks during the upcoming summer league. A 6'5" SG, he averaged nearly 30 ppg playing D2 ball. Some have compared his abilities to D Wade.
I'm curious to see where some other UDFA sign. Some bigger names are still available as of early this morning.
Sources: Louisvilles VJ King has agreed to an undrafted free-agent deal with the New York Knicks.
You've dismissed the layups. Do that for Zion and guess what you have??
You've created a narrative that Barrett can't shoot at all based on a season of college ball. Harden's last year wasn't statistically much different from Barrett's.
I hate Duke as much as the next guy, but Barrett is an excellent player.
j dont think i have heard this mentioned as a comp yet, but what about dwyane wade? Wade when he came into the league was slasher not a great shooter
Their college stats are very similar. One thing we know is RJ has the work ethic to improve his jumper. He is the type of kid that will chuck 1000 shots a day to improve.
Knicks can sign up to 6 players to Exhibit 10 contracts which allows them to either convert the player to a two-way or waive them and have them earn up to $50,000 if they play in Westchester for at least 60 days
They have signed Amir Hinton w/Exhibit 10, perhaps VJ King too
Which is more indicative of a good shooting touch, making a lot of layups or shooting a better percentage at the FT line?
Which is more indicative of a good shooting touch, making a lot of layups or shooting a better percentage at the FT line?
Blah blah blah
Duke bad.
Blah blah blah
Virginia good.
He shot 35.6% from 3. Barrett shot 30.8%. That's 6 points better?
Harden shot 56.4% on 2-pointers while Barrett shot 52.9%.
And guess what? Harden's numbers actually were down from his first season!! How the hell did he actually become the guy he is today?
You couldn't possibly be the judge of who or what is intelligent.
It's true there's a long list of guys who didn't improve their shot. But also not like it's some new thing for a rookie to need to work on. Hell Lance Thomas' summer of Js was effective, and he blows. It's a matter of working on it, and doing so consistently. A ton of players have done so...my fav being JKidd, who was an awful shooter yet late career was among the leader in made 3s (his shit Knick playoff series of like 0-20 notwithstanding)
It seems RJ has this work ethic and drive, comes from a fantastic bball program that tends to instill solid fundamentals & skills and in the best bball conference, even his father being a former SJU player from NY seems to be a perfect guide for the kid. Hell Steve Nash is his godfather
A future hall of famer? No he doesn't.
Also, Perry likes to reference his Detroit days and "knowing what a championship team looks like," but those Detroit teams shared the ball and played defense, and the young guys he keeps bringing in rarely exhibit those qualities.
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Still, if you're looking for a UDFA lottery ticket, he's as good a choice as any. There's a lot to work with there if they could find a way to develop the talent.
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A future hall of famer? No he doesn't.
What does he need to be for us Dan..
To be a good player?
Thanks Dan. That profile sounds very common to me - 'decent shooters,' transition game, projecting to 3-and-D, but not that good on D atm. Not sure what to make of it but we'll see at SL in a couple weeks
Is every pickup required to be 6'7"? I think 4 of 5 of them
Good find. King seems like a very wise UDFA signing. Chances are he won't be anything but he does have talent.
Interesting, I wonder what contract the Knicks are willing to offer Durant.
He's Demar with upside.
He's Demar with upside.
I think his mental makeup puts him ahead of demar..
We have seen Demar shrink in the playoffs, i dont think Barrett will be afraid of those moments
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Knicks will meet with Kawhi either sunday or monday and that meeting is already setup BUT Durant is the knicks main priority...
Interesting, I wonder what contract the Knicks are willing to offer Durant.
The max. Just like every other team that KD is interested in playing for.
What exactly is this based on?
I was going to say this, you beat me.
Barrett is 19 and is now a full time basketball player. With countless hours of practice/coaching, I think he can eventually make 1 out of 10 more 3s.
That is what it sounded like when he said it, he saod the kawhi stuff first then he was like but waot durant is still the priority
Also, Perry likes to reference his Detroit days and "knowing what a championship team looks like," but those Detroit teams shared the ball and played defense, and the young guys he keeps bringing in rarely exhibit those qualities.
Knicks will most likely enter the season as the worst team in the league. Memphis, Cle, and Washington won't be far behind but they have some good players. The Knicks currently don't have a good NBA player on the roster. Not saying their players can't get better or won't become that, but that is the current situation.
The Knicks number 1 scorer is going to be Barrett or maybe Smith or Knox. They are really going to struggle to score and don't really have a good shooter on the roster. Hopefully the guys make major strides but we are in for another long year...
Point is - it seems every scouting report on guys who can't shoot in college say they will improve. History shows most never get that much better. The one thing Knox and Barrett have going for them is that they are so young and do have less practice than draft picks 20 years ago.
Robinson - brilliant pick for round 2. Great defender and very good rebounder. His shooting may never develop, but he's so dominating at what he does well, that he'll be an effective starting center.
Trier - Nothing ventured, nothing lost. He shows signs of being effective of the bench.
Barrett - Great with the ball, good on d, but his outside shooting is a concern.
Braz - Good shooter and can take it to the hole. Finishes well. D will be a problem, but he does work at ti. Good value for round 2.
Wilkes and Hinton - too early to tell.
One of the knocks on him (not just me talking here, go look up pre-draft scouting reports if you don't believe me) is that he is VERY lefty-dominant and rarely goes to his right effectively.
Robinson - brilliant pick for round 2. Great defender and very good rebounder. His shooting may never develop, but he's so dominating at what he does well, that he'll be an effective starting center.
Trier - Nothing ventured, nothing lost. He shows signs of being effective of the bench.
Barrett - Great with the ball, good on d, but his outside shooting is a concern.
Braz - Good shooter and can take it to the hole. Finishes well. D will be a problem, but he does work at ti. Good value for round 2.
Wilkes and Hinton - too early to tell.
lol at calling a 19 year old kid a wasted pick
Thats fair and I agree he would get time on most good teams in the league. Would love to see a mid range jumper from him this season but overall you have to be thrilled with what he did last year.
I think its nuts to write off Knox. I didn't like what I saw last year either, but I'm not writing him off this young...
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Thats fair and I agree he would get time on most good teams in the league. Would love to see a mid range jumper from him this season but overall you have to be thrilled with what he did last year.
I think its nuts to write off Knox. I didn't like what I saw last year either, but I'm not writing him off this young...
i want Knox to be a better finisher at the rim, better defender and more consistent jump shooter, thatbis what inlook for this year
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I wouldn't be too surprised to find he was equally adept w/ Js going R as L.
One of the knocks on him (not just me talking here, go look up pre-draft scouting reports if you don't believe me) is that he is VERY lefty-dominant and rarely goes to his right effectively.
Fair enough if that's the case. Will have an eye on it in SL if I get a chance to watch
That's fair. I think SGA is much better. I'd rather had either of the Bridges or Huerter than Knox - and that's just off the top of my head.
Take a look at ESPN's Real +/- for small forwards. Knox is dead last and he isn't close to the player who's next to last.
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