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Jints in Carolina : 6/22/2019 4:42 pm
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RE: Didi with a brutal night at the plate  
section125 : 6/22/2019 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14480309 RasputinPrime said:
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and a bad read on the error to get thrown out at second.


So did 1st base coach. He sent Didi.. bad read by both great backup job by Stassi...
RE: RE: Ottavino freezes Altuve  
robbieballs2003 : 6/22/2019 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14480339 Jay in Toronto said:
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a very difficult thing to do. Pitches out of a 2 walk jam



That last pitch was a beaut on so many levels. Great call and great execution.


I feel like Ottavino doesn't know where his pitches are going half the time because they have so much movement.
Britton gets the job done more times than not.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/22/2019 10:34 pm : link
He's a very good reliever, I like him and I'm glad he's here. But he is not good for your heart health if he is on your team. Jesus. He got the job done in the end, though, so that's all that matters.
RE: RE: Ottavino freezes Altuve  
Percy : 6/22/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14480339 Jay in Toronto said:
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a very difficult thing to do. Pitches out of a 2 walk jam



That last pitch was a beaut on so many levels. Great call and great execution.

Indisputable.
Home field advantage could be huge in playoffs against Houston.  
Waldo Jeffers : 6/22/2019 10:34 pm : link
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RE: 8 in a row boys  
section125 : 6/22/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14480336 Jints in Carolina said:
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That one was stressful


That is 6 straight against two very, very good teams. Let us not lose sight that this a a very good Astros team and that they and the Rays have low team ERAs...
Yes Britton was rough again, but he had the meat of the order up. Pretty damn good meat, too.
I remember someone  
Nine-Tails : 6/22/2019 10:37 pm : link
On here back when the astros swept us, saying we don't measure up to them. Well we're still not at full strength but outlook looks different now. Granted, I still want to see them against Verlander and I do think we need to add a good starter to have the edge in the playoffs. Right now, the winner might be whoever has home field.
RE: RE: 8 in a row boys  
Percy : 6/22/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14480345 section125 said:
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That one was stressful



That is 6 straight against two very, very good teams. Let us not lose sight that this a a very good Astros team and that they and the Rays have low team ERAs...
Yes Britton was rough again, but he had the meat of the order up. Pretty damn good meat, too.

Houston also knocks the s%^t out of the ball. Plus they can pitch. Nothing easy about winning three of four from them. Could be four of four tomorrow!
Hate to ever see Holder take the mound.  
Waldo Jeffers : 6/22/2019 10:39 pm : link
Has to be a better answer than Holder. Anybody have a clue as to what it might be?
RE: Hate to ever see Holder take the mound.  
Percy : 6/22/2019 10:40 pm : link
In comment 14480348 Waldo Jeffers said:
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Has to be a better answer than Holder. Anybody have a clue as to what it might be?

It isn't Cessa.
New highwater mark of the year:  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/22/2019 10:40 pm : link
22 games over .500

Pretty sure that is our new highwater mark.
RE: Hate to ever see Holder take the mound.  
Nine-Tails : 6/22/2019 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14480348 Waldo Jeffers said:
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Has to be a better answer than Holder. Anybody have a clue as to what it might be?


Probably a deadline move or if Betamces finally gets healthy
Perhaps the answer isn't on the roster right now. Either in the minors  
Waldo Jeffers : 6/22/2019 10:42 pm : link
on another sweet deal to be made
RE: RE: 8 in a row boys  
MetsAreBack : 6/22/2019 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14480345 section125 said:
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That one was stressful



That is 6 straight against two very, very good teams. Let us not lose sight that this a a very good Astros team and that they and the Rays have low team ERAs...
Yes Britton was rough again, but he had the meat of the order up. Pretty damn good meat, too.


Houston isnít the same without Correa and Springer, and you missed Cole this weekend.

But obviously this Yankees lineup is fucking impressive and a tough out come October and the Red Sox stubborn bizarre indifference towards upgrading its lousy bullpen (while only throwing Barnes against meat of orders ... every night) has made this easy for Cashman and team
RE: Hate to ever see Holder take the mound.  
section125 : 6/22/2019 10:47 pm : link
In comment 14480348 Waldo Jeffers said:
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Has to be a better answer than Holder. Anybody have a clue as to what it might be?


FWIW, think how bad Green was earlier in the year. Think of how he has been since game or two after returning. Rothschild may be able to get him figured out. Holder does have options.

I don't know. he was so effective until a month ago.
RE: RE: RE: 8 in a row boys  
Nine-Tails : 6/22/2019 10:53 pm : link
In comment 14480355 MetsAreBack said:
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That one was stressful



That is 6 straight against two very, very good teams. Let us not lose sight that this a a very good Astros team and that they and the Rays have low team ERAs...
Yes Britton was rough again, but he had the meat of the order up. Pretty damn good meat, too.



Houston isnít the same without Correa and Springer, and you missed Cole this weekend.

But obviously this Yankees lineup is fucking impressive and a tough out come October and the Red Sox stubborn bizarre indifference towards upgrading its lousy bullpen (while only throwing Barnes against meat of orders ... every night) has made this easy for Cashman and team


How sad that they're missing two guys and on a long losing streak. Well we still don't have sevy, betances, and andujar is gone. We were far more depleted when they swept us, yet someone here openly stated the stros superiority, and we never had losing streak that long with far more injuries.
Not Yankees Note: More English History  
Percy : 6/22/2019 11:01 pm : link
I'm Henry the eighth I am,
Henry the eighth I am I am,
I got married to the widow next door,
She's been married seven times before,
And everyone was a Henry (Henry),
She wouldn't have a Willie or a Sam (no sam)
I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry,
Henry the eighth I am

had to miss tonight's game but wow -  
Del Shofner : 6/22/2019 11:07 pm : link
up 3 on the 'Stros, 5.5 on the Rays and 8 on the Bosox. Only the Twins up 1 on us in the league.

Sounds like it was the cardiac kids tonight, but a win is a win. Onwards!
RE: RE: RE: Ottavino freezes Altuve  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/22/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14480341 robbieballs2003 said:
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dpinzow said:
That last pitch was a beaut on so many levels. Great call and great execution.



I feel like Ottavino doesn't know where his pitches are going half the time because they have so much movement.


I swear watching the ball on TV with those cameras up close on it, his pitches change their rotation a few feet after they leave his hand. Yeah physically impossible I suppose, but that's what it looks like.

That last pitch, Altuve must have thought it's gonna take that same wicked break to the outside, and be way out of the strike zone since it was heading right for the outside corner of the plate anyway. Then it efffin broke back inside sharply for a clear strike, and back doored Altuve. That was a magnificent pitch - intentional or not.
RE: RE: RE: 8 in a row boys  
BigBlueShock : 6/22/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14480355 MetsAreBack said:
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That one was stressful



That is 6 straight against two very, very good teams. Let us not lose sight that this a a very good Astros team and that they and the Rays have low team ERAs...
Yes Britton was rough again, but he had the meat of the order up. Pretty damn good meat, too.



Houston isnít the same without Correa and Springer, and you missed Cole this weekend.

But obviously this Yankees lineup is fucking impressive and a tough out come October and the Red Sox stubborn bizarre indifference towards upgrading its lousy bullpen (while only throwing Barnes against meat of orders ... every night) has made this easy for Cashman and team

Youíll have to excuse us Yankees fans if we arenít weeping because another team has a couple of injuries....
RE: RE: RE: RE: Ottavino freezes Altuve  
Del Shofner : 6/23/2019 12:13 am : link
In comment 14480370 BlueLou'sBack said:
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dpinzow said:
That last pitch was a beaut on so many levels. Great call and great execution.



I feel like Ottavino doesn't know where his pitches are going half the time because they have so much movement.



I swear watching the ball on TV with those cameras up close on it, his pitches change their rotation a few feet after they leave his hand. Yeah physically impossible I suppose, but that's what it looks like.

That last pitch, Altuve must have thought it's gonna take that same wicked break to the outside, and be way out of the strike zone since it was heading right for the outside corner of the plate anyway. Then it efffin broke back inside sharply for a clear strike, and back doored Altuve. That was a magnificent pitch - intentional or not.


Ottavino out of Brooklyn NY and a high school classmate of one of my kids. Great to see him on the Yanks.
RE: Another cardiac  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/23/2019 2:37 am : link
In comment 14480334 section125 said:
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John Wetteland performance by the BP.
Different hitting hero each night. This team is pretty good. Good thing they don't need those home runs anymore.


After 20 years of Mo, you still think about Wetteland?

Jeesh, I forgot all about Horace Clarke's crap range, glove, and bat after maybe 3 years of Willie Randolph.
Yankees flashing a whole lotta...  
M.S. : 6/23/2019 6:31 am : link

...leather last night!
Green worked on things in the minors, I think itís time  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/23/2019 7:51 am : link
to send Holder down. He got his slider/change from a coach down there, I donít think Rothschild is doing him any favors here.

Britton refuses to throw strikes, itís so frustrating. With his movement, just throw it down the middle and watch it break.

Is Acevedo hurt? Wonder why they donít call him up to AAA...
RE: RE: Another cardiac  
section125 : 6/23/2019 8:09 am : link
In comment 14480396 BlueLou'sBack said:
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John Wetteland performance by the BP.
Different hitting hero each night. This team is pretty good. Good thing they don't need those home runs anymore.



After 20 years of Mo, you still think about Wetteland?



Like a bad movie, can't get it out of my mind:-)
RE: Green worked on things in the minors, I think itís time  
rich in DC : 6/23/2019 8:37 am : link
In comment 14480414 Jim in Hoboken said:
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to send Holder down. He got his slider/change from a coach down there, I donít think Rothschild is doing him any favors here.

Britton refuses to throw strikes, itís so frustrating. With his movement, just throw it down the middle and watch it break.

Is Acevedo hurt? Wonder why they donít call him up to AAA...


Acevedo just transitioned to the pen this spring- I think they are trying to get him adjusted to the back-to-backs and lengthy outings they would need.

The secondary numbers he is putting up are pretty solid- even though he had several bad outings in early-mid May. He has only allowed .192 BA against. They are using him in high-leverage situations- ergo the 7-1 record.
RE: RE: RE: 8 in a row boys  
mfsd : 6/23/2019 8:39 am : link
In comment 14480355 MetsAreBack said:
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That one was stressful



That is 6 straight against two very, very good teams. Let us not lose sight that this a a very good Astros team and that they and the Rays have low team ERAs...
Yes Britton was rough again, but he had the meat of the order up. Pretty damn good meat, too.



Houston isnít the same without Correa and Springer, and you missed Cole this weekend.

But obviously this Yankees lineup is fucking impressive and a tough out come October and the Red Sox stubborn bizarre indifference towards upgrading its lousy bullpen (while only throwing Barnes against meat of orders ... every night) has made this easy for Cashman and team


Met fan lurking Yankee game thread claiming Cashman and the Yanks have had it last night and this season?

Lulz
Random  
bigbluehoya : 6/23/2019 8:57 am : link
- every time I think Urshela is turning back into a pumpkin he does something meaningful with the bat.

- as someone who wouldnít mind if he never saw Romine play in a NYY again, that was a huge spot and against an excellent RP. Credit where itís due.

- Voit with some really solid defensive play. Heís never going to be Tino, but weíve just about reached the point where everyone may stop reflexively parroting stuff about his defense.

- Holder should be sent down. He simply is not good, at least right now.
RE: RE: RE: 8 in a row boys  
robbieballs2003 : 6/23/2019 9:15 am : link
In comment 14480355 MetsAreBack said:
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That one was stressful



That is 6 straight against two very, very good teams. Let us not lose sight that this a a very good Astros team and that they and the Rays have low team ERAs...
Yes Britton was rough again, but he had the meat of the order up. Pretty damn good meat, too.



Houston isnít the same without Correa and Springer, and you missed Cole this weekend.

But obviously this Yankees lineup is fucking impressive and a tough out come October and the Red Sox stubborn bizarre indifference towards upgrading its lousy bullpen (while only throwing Barnes against meat of orders ... every night) has made this easy for Cashman and team


Others have already pointed out how ridiculous your post was.

Lets go through some of the Yanks that were or are on the injured list.

Severino
CC
Montgomery
Paxton
German
Betances
Bird
Andujar
Sanchez
Stanton
Judge
Hicks
Didi
Maybin
Tulowitski
And others

Yeah, the Yanks have had it easy.
Holder has 8 ER in his last 5 appearances (10 R in last 6 games)  
adamg : 6/23/2019 9:19 am : link
He needs something. A pep talk or something. Get his head on straight. He needs to just write off this year stats-wise (he's nearly matched his ER total from last year in half as many games), and pitch like a motherfucker. He's got a devastating high fastball. He's got the tools.

hoya, et al: do you think it's something he can work on in the minors? Is it his offspeed/breaking stuff that's the problem?
It's just weird to comment on an in-season game thread  
adamg : 6/23/2019 9:21 am : link
if you're not a fan of the in-season team. Just an odd look.
BlueLouísBack  
Rick in Dallas : 6/23/2019 9:25 am : link
Love the Horace Clarke reference. Very funny.
I donít want to hear about Houstonís injuries  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2019 9:34 am : link
canít believe itís even brought up to somehow excuse their level of play.
RE: I donít want to hear about Houstonís injuries  
BigBlueShock : 6/23/2019 9:44 am : link
In comment 14480449 UConn4523 said:
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canít believe itís even brought up to somehow excuse their level of play.

Those poor Astros. How could they possibly win with two guys injured? We wonít even mention that 2 of the Yankees best players, Torres and Sanchez didnít even play last night, yet they somehow managed to win the game. 3 starters sat out Friday. Yet, they won the game.

My heart bleeds for the Astros. Yankees have had it so easy this season....
RE: RE: I donít want to hear about Houstonís injuries  
adamg : 6/23/2019 9:44 am : link
In comment 14480456 BigBlueShock said:
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canít believe itís even brought up to somehow excuse their level of play.


Those poor Astros. How could they possibly win with two guys injured? We wonít even mention that 2 of the Yankees best players, Torres and Sanchez didnít even play last night, yet they somehow managed to win the game. 3 starters sat out Friday. Yet, they won the game.

My heart bleeds for the Astros. Yankees have had it so easy this season....


Compared to the Mets roster, it is kind of unfair...
RE: Yankees flashing a whole lotta...  
slickwilly : 6/23/2019 9:45 am : link
In comment 14480405 M.S. said:
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...leather last night!


So many great plays. Judge gunning the guy at second was my personal fave. What was that guy thinking?
We're still missing two of our best pitchers, too.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/23/2019 9:50 am : link
Our ace (Sevy) hasn't made on single pitch this season yet. And same for one of our very best relievers over the past few years, in Betances. Imagine what could happen if he had our ace this entire season and Betances.
Go for a sweep!  
Carson53 : 6/23/2019 9:55 am : link
They overcame Non-Holder and even Britton in the 9th.
One I am not surprised about, the other needs to get his
walks under control, too many.
Just keep on going, hopefully they get to Verlander today.
funny saw the first 4 innings or so  
Stu11 : 6/23/2019 10:26 am : link
then caught the next 3 on the phone (promised the wife I'd take her to the movies) what a crazy last 4 innings! Nuts that Stanton had almost identical 2 run singles. Just watched all the highlights on MLB network. Funny I'm 51 and I don't think I've ever in my life heard announcers national or otherwise whine about one of the visitors hitting a porch job. Its only applicable when Gio does it, not Alvarez or Reddick...
RE: RE: RE: 8 in a row boys  
Jints in Carolina : 6/23/2019 10:54 am : link
In comment 14480355 MetsAreBack said:
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That one was stressful



That is 6 straight against two very, very good teams. Let us not lose sight that this a a very good Astros team and that they and the Rays have low team ERAs...
Yes Britton was rough again, but he had the meat of the order up. Pretty damn good meat, too.



Houston isnít the same without Correa and Springer, and you missed Cole this weekend.

But obviously this Yankees lineup is fucking impressive and a tough out come October and the Red Sox stubborn bizarre indifference towards upgrading its lousy bullpen (while only throwing Barnes against meat of orders ... every night) has made this easy for Cashman and team


Yea we should feel so bad about another teams injuries since we have been injury free all season....My god dude.
RE: funny saw the first 4 innings or so  
mfsd : 6/23/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14480477 Stu11 said:
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then caught the next 3 on the phone (promised the wife I'd take her to the movies) what a crazy last 4 innings! Nuts that Stanton had almost identical 2 run singles. Just watched all the highlights on MLB network. Funny I'm 51 and I don't think I've ever in my life heard announcers national or otherwise whine about one of the visitors hitting a porch job. Its only applicable when Gio does it, not Alvarez or Reddick...


Haha funny enough, Iíd promised the lady weíd go see Rocketman last night, 9:30 show...I got a couple glares for peeking at my phone during the movie to see how the game ended. Oops.
Is there any way to watch old timers day online?  
Jints in Carolina : 6/23/2019 11:08 am : link
I don't have YES....only MLB TV
RE: RE: Yankees flashing a whole lotta...  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/23/2019 11:17 am : link
In comment 14480459 slickwilly said:
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...leather last night!



So many great plays. Judge gunning the guy at second was my personal fave. What was that guy thinking?


With Gio, it's gotten to the point where excellence with the glove is so expected it's routine. I feel like I'm watching Nettles' spirit reborn in another body like a Hindu. That play - was it in the 9th or 8th - where he charged a hopper, barehanded it and fired to 1st in pretty much one motion and got the runner clearly by half a step - it just looked routine.
RE: funny saw the first 4 innings or so  
section125 : 6/23/2019 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14480477 Stu11 said:
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then caught the next 3 on the phone (promised the wife I'd take her to the movies) what a crazy last 4 innings! Nuts that Stanton had almost identical 2 run singles. Just watched all the highlights on MLB network. Funny I'm 51 and I don't think I've ever in my life heard announcers national or otherwise whine about one of the visitors hitting a porch job. Its only applicable when Gio does it, not Alvarez or Reddick...


Ef them. Porch is there for all. It's not like they move the stands between half innings..jackasses.
When the Red Sox move the left field ball back 50 feet  
arniefez : 6/23/2019 12:34 pm : link
the Yankees can move their right field seats back 50 feet. The Astros play in a tricked up stadium they have nothing to complain about. At least they took the hump off the field.
RE: When the Red Sox move the left field ball back 50 feet  
mfsd : 6/23/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14480549 arniefez said:
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the Yankees can move their right field seats back 50 feet. The Astros play in a tricked up stadium they have nothing to complain about. At least they took the hump off the field.


Bingo. When Sox fans are ready to admit Pedroia was a league average player (career OPS away from Fenway = .759) whoís career was made hitting fly ball doubles off the monster, Iíll listen to their complaints about the short porch in Yankee Stadium
Waaaaah, short porch  
Greg from LI : 6/23/2019 1:12 pm : link
Because the Astros totally don't poke a shitload of homers into the Crawford Boxes, right?
The obvious answer to their pitching needs  
Matt M. : 6/23/2019 1:34 pm : link
is trading Frazier. I don't want to trade him, but I also have this feeling we've already seen his ceiling. He's a good player, not a great one, but is probably at the height of his value. I'd also throw in a guy like Andujar with the emergence of Urshela.
RE: The obvious answer to their pitching needs  
section125 : 6/23/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14480576 Matt M. said:
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is trading Frazier. I don't want to trade him, but I also have this feeling we've already seen his ceiling. He's a good player, not a great one, but is probably at the height of his value. I'd also throw in a guy like Andujar with the emergence of Urshela.


May not be necessary to trade Frazier unless they are getting a top of the rotation pitcher. They may have to, but it is not forgone.
I do not think he is topped out either. His defense will improve and his patience at the plate will improve once he gets comfortable and not pressing to stay in the Bronx.
RE: RE: The obvious answer to their pitching needs  
Matt M. : 6/23/2019 1:43 pm : link
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is trading Frazier. I don't want to trade him, but I also have this feeling we've already seen his ceiling. He's a good player, not a great one, but is probably at the height of his value. I'd also throw in a guy like Andujar with the emergence of Urshela.



May not be necessary to trade Frazier unless they are getting a top of the rotation pitcher. They may have to, but it is not forgone.
I do not think he is topped out either. His defense will improve and his patience at the plate will improve once he gets comfortable and not pressing to stay in the Bronx.
I think he will improve, but I don't think it will be significantly. I'd still love to hang on to him. But, they may go all in on a starter, especially if Severino won't be back to form.
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