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Strahan91 : 6/24/2019 11:46 am
Figured it made sense to start a new thread now that the draft is over with and we're moving on to FA. Not much news today except:

1) Bondy said the Knicks aren't expected to have interest in signing Russell if he becomes UFA. Thinks they'll sign guys to 1 year deals if they strike out on KD, Kawhi, Kyrie rather than go after Russell and other similar FA's with max offers.

2) Jalen Rose thinks KD is headed to NY -- specifically the Knicks. Here's what he said:
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"The Knicks," Rose predicted. "I still feel like if you're going to leave the Golden State Warriors, it's not just about the rings; he got two there. It's not just about the money; he can get more there. It's the stage. If you're gonna come to New York City, that's at MSG."

Noteworthy because Rose is a roc nation client and therefore has ties to Kleiman. Of course, he may know nothing and is sharing his opinion but who knows.
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RE: Everything is bigger with Knick fans  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/26/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14483584 xman said:
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including desperation. Repeating past mistakes signing older injured players seems like a misfire


I don't think KD off his soft tissue injury is the same kind of situation as knowingly signing amare with a denegerative, uninsurable knee condition. Kevin Durant is one of the best to ever play basketball. Even diminished he's a top 5 player.
RE: Man, some folks at RealGM are posting photos  
Greg from LI : 6/26/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14483723 bceagle05 said:
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of previous Knicks free agent introductory pressers - it's been a long 20 years.


Dream Team.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 3:54 pm : link
one of Donnie's most underrated  
Enzo : 6/26/2019 4:08 pm : link
horrible moves was what he got back from the Warriors in the David Lee sign-and-trade.
in fairness, that deal looked ok at the time  
Greg from LI : 6/26/2019 4:12 pm : link
Lee was gone anyway. Azubuike was a good young player but his injury basically ended his career. Randolph looked promising but flamed out.
I honestly didn't even remember what deal that was.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 4:13 pm : link
Hopefully this summer's photo ops are a little more exciting.
Rockets  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 4:26 pm : link

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Reporting w/ @ZachLowe: Houstons offering Clint Capela, Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker individually to teams w/ space to absorb salary. Rockets trying for best available first-rounder for any of those three, hoping to redirect pick to Philly in pursuit of Jimmy Butler sign-and-trade.
RE: Rockets  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14483897 DanMetroMan said:
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Adrian Wojnarowski

@wojespn
Reporting w/ @ZachLowe: Houstons offering Clint Capela, Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker individually to teams w/ space to absorb salary. Rockets trying for best available first-rounder for any of those three, hoping to redirect pick to Philly in pursuit of Jimmy Butler sign-and-trade.


Morey actually believes he is getting a 1st in a salary dump
Capela  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 4:42 pm : link
is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.
RE: Capela  
Jan in DC : 6/26/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14483931 DanMetroMan said:
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is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.


Which makes me wonder why Philly doesn't just engage in a trade for him straight up? Unless they'd have to take some other salary to make that work.
RE: RE: Capela  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14483961 Jan in DC said:
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is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.



Which makes me wonder why Philly doesn't just engage in a trade for him straight up? Unless they'd have to take some other salary to make that work.


because brett brown wont play him with embiid
RE: Capela  
dep026 : 6/26/2019 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14483931 DanMetroMan said:
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is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.


Limited repotoire and maybe a product of Hardens game. Can he put up numbers in a team system instead of just catch lob passes?
enjoy this stroll down memory lane  
Greg from LI : 6/26/2019 5:09 pm : link
Shams echoing Woj regarding KD: He hasn't tipped his hand at all.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 5:12 pm : link
So everything you've heard recently about KD is complete nonsense.
RE: RE: Capela  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 5:21 pm : link
In comment 14483994 dep026 said:
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is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.



Limited repotoire and maybe a product of Hardens game. Can he put up numbers in a team system instead of just catch lob passes?


Those questions aside don't turn him into a salary dump. He's 25 for the entire season. He finished 5th in rebounds, 3rd in FG%, 16th in PER. He's making 18 million per.
RE: RE: RE: Capela  
dep026 : 6/26/2019 5:25 pm : link
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is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.



Limited repotoire and maybe a product of Hardens game. Can he put up numbers in a team system instead of just catch lob passes?



Those questions aside don't turn him into a salary dump. He's 25 for the entire season. He finished 5th in rebounds, 3rd in FG%, 16th in PER. He's making 18 million per.


Im questioning why teams may not want him. His FG% is nice. But he cant make a shot outside 3 feet. And if there isnt a good guard on the team.... how is he going to get any shots?
RE: Shams echoing Woj regarding KD: He hasn't tipped his hand at all.  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14484003 bceagle05 said:
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So everything you've heard recently about KD is complete nonsense.


and kyrie is overseas, do people really think he is telling reporters what he is doing?
RE: RE: Shams echoing Woj regarding KD: He hasn't tipped his hand at all.  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14484029 nygiants16 said:
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So everything you've heard recently about KD is complete nonsense.



and kyrie is overseas, do people really think he is telling reporters what he is doing?

I heard Begley earlier who said word around the league is that Kyrie has Brooklyn at the top of his list but he also doesnt think Kyrie is going to go there alone so the scenario that he goes to the Knicks or Lakers is in play if the Nets cant find a star to pair him with that hes interested in playing with.
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DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 5:34 pm : link


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Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 8:56 pm : link
If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks
DOesnt oakley  
GMEN46 : 6/26/2019 9:09 pm : link
Hate the knicks
RE: Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14484163 nygiants16 said:
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If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks

is that a current pic? you can't see his legs but doesn't look like a guy who just had achilles surgery
Gotta love oak if he is recruiting for the knicks  
Italianju : 6/26/2019 9:12 pm : link
Doing it for the fans cause you know he hates the owner. Haha.
RE: DOesnt oakley  
steve in ky : 6/26/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14484176 GMEN46 said:
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Hate the knicks


Yeah I thought he was even banned from the Garden
RE: Gotta love oak if he is recruiting for the knicks  
steve in ky : 6/26/2019 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14484181 Italianju said:
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Doing it for the fans cause you know he hates the owner. Haha.


I really have to wonder if he was recruiting or warning.
RE: RE: Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 9:16 pm : link
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If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks


is that a current pic? you can't see his legs but doesn't look like a guy who just had achilles surgery


i dunno, he makes it seem like it is, but i dunno
Kawhi/ Spurs  
TyreeHelmet : 6/26/2019 9:52 pm : link
Theres still more to that story. I love him as a player- hes an all time great. But he definitely quit on the Spurs. There are stories of him going all out playing 2v2 and 3v3 with a retired Duncan while the Spurs were practicing. Something happened that made him want out of the Spurs. Even Ginobili of all people knocked him publicly.
RE: RE: Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/26/2019 10:38 pm : link
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If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks


is that a current pic? you can't see his legs but doesn't look like a guy who just had achilles surgery


It's not something that makes you look sick or keeps you bedridden.
It's been about two weeks since surgery, hasn't it?
RE: RE: RE: Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 10:39 pm : link
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If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks


is that a current pic? you can't see his legs but doesn't look like a guy who just had achilles surgery



It's not something that makes you look sick or keeps you bedridden.
It's been about two weeks since surgery, hasn't it?


there are pictures of him out on the city
RE: RE: RE: Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14484260 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks


is that a current pic? you can't see his legs but doesn't look like a guy who just had achilles surgery



It's not something that makes you look sick or keeps you bedridden.
It's been about two weeks since surgery, hasn't it?

In other pics of him in the city hes on a scooter. See here
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Marc Stein:  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 10:44 pm : link
The Knicks are weighing the prospect of extending a considerable one-year offer to Warriors free-agent big man DeMarcus Cousins if they miss out on top target Kevin Durant, league sources say

The Knicks have long been planning to pursue the likes of Durant, Kyrie Irving and Kawhi Leonard in free agency but are widely expected to turn to short-term offers if they miss out on their primary targets
knicks  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 10:52 pm : link
do not exte d qualifying offers to mudiay or kornet
I think DMM mentioned Jeremy Lamb on this thread some time ago...  
ChaChing : 6/27/2019 6:52 am : link
This article is just possible SGs, but seems like he might be a solid pick esp if he can defend. Other names mentioned as available were Wayne Ellington, Troy Daniels & Lance Stephenson. Could see all of them for a decent value, w/ or w/o the big name FAs. Tho admitted I'm not an expert on any of them, TD least of all

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im ok with the cousins idea.....  
Italianju : 6/27/2019 7:11 am : link
i mean these 1 year deals have limited value in that you have no future control or bird rights or anything. But it gives you an up close look at his health and attitude. You can run the offense through him to take the pressure off the kids. I dont see why him and mitch couldnt play together as mitch could guard the better player at PF or C. And if Cousins is healthy you could possibly turn him into something at the deadline (wouldnt plan on that though since we would have to take back just expirings to preserve capspace).
why would you sign cousins  
hitdog42 : 6/27/2019 7:17 am : link
if the best young talent is at center in MR?

i said in that post...  
Italianju : 6/27/2019 7:21 am : link
that i see no reason that mitch and cousins cant play together. At least for a few stretches so they each could get around 30ish minutes a game. And Mitch is never going to be a dump the ball down and let him go to work so having cousins doesnt hurt his progression all that much.
RE: i said in that post...  
hitdog42 : 6/27/2019 7:27 am : link
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that i see no reason that mitch and cousins cant play together. At least for a few stretches so they each could get around 30ish minutes a game. And Mitch is never going to be a dump the ball down and let him go to work so having cousins doesnt hurt his progression all that much.


yeah i hear you, just seems like an odd one- rather punt on a different position that wouldnt clutter the development of the asset
chris haynes  
nygiants16 : 6/27/2019 7:29 am : link
says he thinks durant will be the first domino to fall and if he had to pick right now he would say knicks...
If KD is the first it will be...  
Italianju : 6/27/2019 7:41 am : link
very interesting to see what happens with Kyrie. If all the reports of the him or the Nets being more interested in each other with another star. Does he consider harris a star? Horford? Could they get Butler?

i think KD goes to knicks  
hitdog42 : 6/27/2019 7:43 am : link
and when that happens, i think it will delay everything else because its a big domino.
Well the Knicks also ahve...  
Italianju : 6/27/2019 7:43 am : link
Barrett, Knox, and to a lesser extent DSJ to develop so by that thinking we only really should sign a PF. And Cousins can play PF. And again if Mitch was going to be a guy i wanted the ball in his hands all the time then yeah i wouldnt want cousins sucking up all the post touches, but that is never going to be mitch's game.
1 thing i like about adding cousins  
nygiants16 : 6/27/2019 7:47 am : link
at least for 1 year the pressure of being the main scoring option is not on barrett, he can be the 2nd guy and play off of cousins...

would love it if there is a team option, get cousins on the miami weight loss program that fizdale has..
....  
Italianju : 6/27/2019 9:03 am : link
Adrian Wojnarowski
The Boston Celtics have emerged as the frontrunner to sign Charlotte All-Star guard Kemba Walker once free agency opens Sunday at 6 PM ET, league sources tell ESPN.

Not really sure what the celts plan is here. Are they shooting to be the 4-5 seed for the next 4 years. Will this cost them Rozier? not saying Rozier is Kemba but we dont know what he is and he will be a lot cheaper. Unless Tatum becomes a superstar or Hayward looks a lot closer to hayward a couple years ago then i dont see how the celts team will be anything more then a second round exit at best.
Great news about Kemba.  
bceagle05 : 6/27/2019 9:11 am : link
The Charlotte second rounders we own these next two years will go up in value.
wonder what Rozier...  
Italianju : 6/27/2019 9:13 am : link
will get if the celts rescind his rights and make him an UFA. He could be the kind of guy worth a shot to see what he becomes as a full time starter. That said its the NBA and everyone gets absurd deals. I dont want to chance 20 mill that Rozier is good.
Rozier was drafted in 2015  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/27/2019 9:14 am : link
I feel like we know what he is.
Rozier...  
Italianju : 6/27/2019 9:16 am : link
played 8 minutes and 17 minutes a game his first two seasons. And has also played behind two all stars. Again i dont want to offer him 20 mill a year, but on a reasonable deal he could be a good signing.
Can anyone guarantee that  
Carl in CT : 6/27/2019 9:44 am : link
Rozier is better than DSJ? I cant.
Rozier  
CaseyStats : 6/27/2019 9:49 am : link
(Mostly lurker posting): As a Knicks fan, outside of signing B level guys to max contracts, I can't think of one thing I'd hate more than them signing Rozier. A backup pg who shoots under 40% and complains about his touches while getting the second most touches on the team? The guy has delusions of grandeur that are KILLER when you're trying to add superstars, have a bunch of young guys, and need role players without egos to surround them with. Great for an entertaining media tour after a first round exit, bad for a team with championship aspirations
The Emanuel Mudiay Era is over?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/27/2019 10:45 am : link
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