Figured it made sense to start a new thread now that the draft is over with and we're moving on to FA. Not much news today except:
1) Bondy said the Knicks aren't expected to have interest in signing Russell if he becomes UFA. Thinks they'll sign guys to 1 year deals if they strike out on KD, Kawhi, Kyrie rather than go after Russell and other similar FA's with max offers.
2) Jalen Rose thinks KD is headed to NY -- specifically the Knicks. Here's what he said:
| "The Knicks," Rose predicted. "I still feel like if you're going to leave the Golden State Warriors, it's not just about the rings; he got two there. It's not just about the money; he can get more there. It's the stage. If you're gonna come to New York City, that's at MSG." |
Noteworthy because Rose is a roc nation client and therefore has ties to Kleiman. Of course, he may know nothing and is sharing his opinion but who knows.
Let the young kids develop!
Durant - Knicks
Irving- Nets
Horford- Clippers
Thompson- Warriors
Walker- Lakers
Russell- Wolves
Butler- Sixers
Harris - Nets
no its not, if it was a fab invention, then why does every player say it
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Kenneth Smith, a 6-3 guard, has committed to playing summer league with the Knicks, per SNY sources. Smith averaged 9 points, 7 assists and 1.6 steals per game for Grand Rapids in the G League last year.
I'm all in favor of taking the risk and maxing out Durant but I will say that the achilles injury certainly takes the sting out if he signs elsewhere.
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Mitchell Robinson will play "at least two games" with the Knicks summer league team in Las Vegas, according to a source close to the young center.
Additional league sources confirm that Robinson is expected to be joined by both Kevin Knox and Allonzo Trier
Durant - Knicks
Irving- Nets
Horford- Clippers
Thompson- Warriors
Walker- Lakers
Russell- Wolves
Butler- Sixers
Harris - Nets
Guy I know who is a writer said the feeling is Leonard or Thompson leaving would be absolutely shocking.
To me the reward far outweighs the risk? And Im curious what the real risk is? Do you think hell never play again or wont be a good player?
And if they dont use the cap space on him, who are they using it on?
I understand its not ideal but this is Kevin Durant we are talking about. If he wants to come you sign him and dont think twice.
Fine by me. Shooting for a 40ish win team does nothing for me.
Whats the deal with only playing robinson 2 games. Is this it get other kids more burn? Are we worried about wearing him down in July. He still needs to work on a ton of things.
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know Bondy is hated on here but he claims if the Knicks don't sign Leonard/Durant/Irving types they will mostly sit out FA and not chase the tier 2 (Randle etc).
Fine by me. Shooting for a 40ish win team does nothing for me.
Same here Greg. I realize next years crop isn't very good but keep signing "former busts" and value signings and draft well. Accumulate assets.
Thank God. I think this would be the sign the FO has finally turned it around.
Whats the deal with only playing robinson 2 games. Is this it get other kids more burn? Are we worried about wearing him down in July. He still needs to work on a ton of things.
probably at least 2 games, see how he is and then go from there
Whats the deal with only playing robinson 2 games. Is this it get other kids more burn? Are we worried about wearing him down in July. He still needs to work on a ton of things.
The 2nd year players are volunteering to play. Robinson is heavily involved in kids camps etc so I'm sure it's mostly a scheduling thing.
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What your risking is a max slot for a guy who in year 1 will be on your bench by year 2 Hell be 32 coming off a majory injury and possibly a shell of his former self. So then you have to try and build around that? Its a major risk and not one I would make.
Get another good draft pick, have the kids come into the following year with more experience, then see if AD still wants to stay in LA after what will probably be a disappointing year there. If he's not an option, we'll still have some cap money to play with and can beef up the roster.
Even if Durant is like 90% of the player he was before, he'll still be one of the best players in the league. I don't think it's that much of a risk; and if it is, I'm comfortable taking it.
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It still allows us to tank one more year. That would be four straight years of losing and top 10 picks - if we don't have some semblance of a young nucleus by then, we're likely screwed long-term anyway.
What your risking is a max slot for a guy who in year 1 will be on your bench by year 2 Hell be 32 coming off a majory injury and possibly a shell of his former self. So then you have to try and build around that? Its a major risk and not one I would make.
Well, even that "risk" is just Dolan's money and it's potential to be spent elsewhere. It's not clear that we have great candidates to spend Dolan's money on, aside from the injured KD.
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Saying the Nets aren't a big enough stage to justify leaving GSW. Only the Mecca is. But, the whole Mecca thing is just a Knicks fan invention.
no its not, if it was a fab invention, then why does every player say it
I was being sarcastic 16. Referring to the Nets fans hating on MSG in the other thread...
I was told both Hinton and VJ King (despite the terrible numbers) were both viewed as having "NBA upside. Cavanaugh was actually "not bad" as a rookie with the Jazz so presumably, he's one to watch to make the roster as well. I don't know anything about Lamar Peters
Agree, it's far to risky. The odds are he will never return to be the player he once was. It would be typical Knicks to sign him to the max only have to deal with another aging star who is just a shadow if his past self.
They need to go another course.
Get another good draft pick, have the kids come into the following year with more experience, then see if AD still wants to stay in LA after what will probably be a disappointing year there. If he's not an option, we'll still have some cap money to play with and can beef up the roster.
Even if Durant is like 90% of the player he was before, he'll still be one of the best players in the league. I don't think it's that much of a risk; and if it is, I'm comfortable taking it.
Jalen Rose dismissed injury concerns for KD. Said Cousins came back fine, and would expect KD's finesse game to be less affected by injury anyway.
Who's gonna be the starting PG? Will they start Peters? Will they try Trier at Point?
Unless he gets re-injured, I feel pretty comfortable in thinking he'll still be an excellent player when he gets back.
League exec also says KD is really pissed off at the Warriors following his Achilles injury, per @RicBucher
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The game of saying 'so and so will be great even if he's 75 percent' never works. The margins of success are extremely small.
I agree. It sounds like if KD is having his druthers, it's the Knicks. If it's Kyrie, it's the Nets. But I would think KD gets to call the shots.
The game of saying 'so and so will be great even if he's 75 percent' never works. The margins of success are extremely small.
He was playing with KD, Curry, and Klay. It makes sense he wouldn't get 25 a game. Rose was saying he expects Cousins to put up numbers this year, now that Klay and KD are out.
It also just so happens that the whole legacy/narrative play works if you mesh KD + MSG. According to everyone he NEEDS to win elsewhere to legitimize his legacy and the Knicks just so happen to have cap space, a competent front office and the largest market possible.
It all makes sense. I just hope KD sees it that way.
It also just so happens that the whole legacy/narrative play works if you mesh KD + MSG. According to everyone he NEEDS to win elsewhere to legitimize his legacy and the Knicks just so happen to have cap space, a competent front office and the largest market possible.
It all makes sense. I just hope KD sees it that way.
You really think Durant to the Knicks was media driven for ratings? The injury definitely changes things, but I don't see how you can deny theres substance behind all these reports. He's obviously interested.