NFT: Knicks Thread

that signing Durant would get us the same player, just one year later. I believe it won�t. Signing a 31 year old with a torn achilles is way too risky. What about year three to five of that contract? Do you really believe he�ll return at close to 90 percent and henceforth stay injury-free? I don�t.

Knicks should pass on KD. There's too much risk with that injury at his age, especially given the money he wants.

In comment 14481194 Tony in Berlin said:

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that signing Durant would get us the same player, just one year later. I believe it won�t. Signing a 31 year old with a torn achilles is way too risky. What about year three to five of that contract? Do you really believe he�ll return at close to 90 percent and henceforth stay injury-free? I don�t.

would only be a 4 year deal

You are essentially signing him for 3 years at ages 32-34. Do you really think he's going to fall off that dramatically? Will he lose his ability to shoot or be 7ft tall? Because even if he loses his elite ability to finish and defend, he's still going to score 20-25 points a game efficiently. And I don't see him falling off that dramatically.

And whats the alternative? Sign Julius Randle for 20-25 mill a year? A role player like Brogdon 20 million a year or more? Tobias Harris 4 years for 141 million?

I'll take my chances on an all time immortal player regaining his form. I just thinks it more likely he recovers to an all nba level than his career being over or that greatly diminished where hes a bad contract...

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not sure why all of a sudden its the Nets. Is it cause Kyrie changed his mind? Would KD be willing to change his just to play with Kyrie. I mean who knows what these guys are thinking..

Knicks had the cap space all year long, so its an easy narrative. Nets made strides during the year folks were not expecting and then they just freed up more money to go after 2 max deals. No one thought the Nets would free up enough money to try and grab 2 max players. 3 weeks ago NY16 was telling Nets fans they had no chance of freeing up cap space to go after KD. Well, they did and now they are a player in FA

In comment 14481214 jestersdead said:

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In comment 14481165 Italianju said: Quote: not sure why all of a sudden its the Nets. Is it cause Kyrie changed his mind? Would KD be willing to change his just to play with Kyrie. I mean who knows what these guys are thinking.. Knicks had the cap space all year long, so its an easy narrative. Nets made strides during the year folks were not expecting and then they just freed up more money to go after 2 max deals. No one thought the Nets would free up enough money to try and grab 2 max players. 3 weeks ago NY16 was telling Nets fans they had no chance of freeing up cap space to go after KD. Well, they did and now they are a player in FA

Knicks did not have space for 2 spots all year long...

and nets still havnt cleared 2 max slots, they still have to let russell walk and they are still short of a kd and irving tandem

Those Durant odds make it seem like a done deal to the Nets. These Vegas guys know stuff. I don�t get it, he wants to have his own team and be known as the best. I don�t know if he realizes that no one in NY cares about the Nets. If he wins with the nets. I don�t think anyone in New York will care. If he wins in NY with the Knicks he will be recognized as a top 5 player all time, not saying it�s right or wrong it�s just how the media works. Media controls these debates. The narrative behind winning with the Knicks would be second to none.

I may direct message KD to make sure he understands that neither Knicks fans nor nets fans want Kyrie and that New York does not care about the nets and that there are no nets fans. The media in NY will criticize him for being soft and not accepting the challenge of playing the knicks.

I was sick of all the Nets BS. With their NBA trophy case at 0. I know ours isn�t much better but they make it seem like they have won 4 or 5. Prayers fellas for a good week. I�ll reserve comments later on if we sign anyone.

apparently looking to pair Horford/Kemba to go with Luka and KP. Toss in Kleber, Howard, Roby, THjr, Justin Jackson, Courtney Lee. Could be an interesting squad.

But how could they possibly add $70 million in salary can keep all of those players. That�s like saying knicks are going to sign kawhi, kd and Kyrie whole keeping there entire roster

does make it look like the Nets are where he is going. Never would have thought that. And i dont mean that as some offense to the nets fans, i mean im a mets fan if the money is equal i could never see someone choosing the mets over the yankees.

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But how could they possibly add $70 million in salary can keep all of those players. That�s like saying knicks are going to sign kawhi, kd and Kyrie whole keeping there entire roster

Outside of KP and Luka the others are filler outside of the 2 big FA's. They clearly plan on adding those 2 to the 2 "stars" they already have. Currently have 30 million to spend.
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does make it look like the Nets are where he is going. Never would have thought that. And i dont mean that as some offense to the nets fans, i mean im a mets fan if the money is equal i could never see someone choosing the mets over the yankees.

I can't recall a time it's ever happened and it would have to be an extremely unusual situation like A-Rod growing up a big Met fan and wanting to be a Met.

of a gamble. Whats a bigger gamble? Durant or sucking enough to A. get in the lottery. B. Winning it (17 wins this year didn't get it done) AND C. Actually having a generational star available.
You know what I'll bet on modern medicine and Durant regaining his form in his early 30's...
because there is not a FA waiting to come here in the next season or two.

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KD is something else.

In comment 14481219 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14481214 jestersdead said: Quote: In comment 14481165 Italianju said: Quote: not sure why all of a sudden its the Nets. Is it cause Kyrie changed his mind? Would KD be willing to change his just to play with Kyrie. I mean who knows what these guys are thinking.. Knicks had the cap space all year long, so its an easy narrative. Nets made strides during the year folks were not expecting and then they just freed up more money to go after 2 max deals. No one thought the Nets would free up enough money to try and grab 2 max players. 3 weeks ago NY16 was telling Nets fans they had no chance of freeing up cap space to go after KD. Well, they did and now they are a player in FA Knicks did not have space for 2 spots all year long... and nets still havnt cleared 2 max slots, they still have to let russell walk and they are still short of a kd and irving tandem

I never said Knicks had 2 spots all year. Said, they had cap space all year to go after KD. Once they traded Porzingis and others it opened up the opportunity to get 2 max deals. Yes, the Nets have a couple minor things to do to offer KD and Kyrie max deals but they cleared spaced you said wasn't possible and essentially took them out of the running for KD.

No one knows where he is going but to assume the Nets don't have a chance, b/c you are a Knick fan is the same as what you mock Nets fans for. Maybe you have a source inside the organization that will back your reasons but as of now, both NY teams have a chance

In comment 14481270 jestersdead said:

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In comment 14481219 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14481214 jestersdead said: Quote: In comment 14481165 Italianju said: Quote: not sure why all of a sudden its the Nets. Is it cause Kyrie changed his mind? Would KD be willing to change his just to play with Kyrie. I mean who knows what these guys are thinking.. Knicks had the cap space all year long, so its an easy narrative. Nets made strides during the year folks were not expecting and then they just freed up more money to go after 2 max deals. No one thought the Nets would free up enough money to try and grab 2 max players. 3 weeks ago NY16 was telling Nets fans they had no chance of freeing up cap space to go after KD. Well, they did and now they are a player in FA Knicks did not have space for 2 spots all year long... and nets still havnt cleared 2 max slots, they still have to let russell walk and they are still short of a kd and irving tandem I never said Knicks had 2 spots all year. Said, they had cap space all year to go after KD. Once they traded Porzingis and others it opened up the opportunity to get 2 max deals. Yes, the Nets have a couple minor things to do to offer KD and Kyrie max deals but they cleared spaced you said wasn't possible and essentially took them out of the running for KD. No one knows where he is going but to assume the Nets don't have a chance, b/c you are a Knick fan is the same as what you mock Nets fans for. Maybe you have a source inside the organization that will back your reasons but as of now, both NY teams have a chance

actually knicks didnt have space for kd all season they were short until the kp trade for even 1 max...

and when did i say the nets have no chance? i said they have to make a lot of moves to get 2 max slots and i sais they have no shot at 2 max slots WITH russell...

but KD/Kyrie signing with the Nets is going to be an embarrassment for the Knicks franchise. No way around it. Perry, Mills and Fizdale have been kissing the asses of players and agents all year - gonna be rough if they get shut out. I know we'll talk ourselves into the youth movement and Kyrie's craziness and Durant's health, but it's still a huge blow.

To giving KD a contract.

If you dont get one of the available guys this year, theres no telling when a player of that caliber will ever be available again.

If KD comes back healthy, you're a title contender. If he doesnt, you're not. And if he's not on the roster at all, you're still not. Theres nothing I can forsee the Knicks doing in the next 3-5 years that makes them a contender. You're not going to draft and develop your way to becoming the spurs. It will be years of hoping to win the top pick in a year where there's a franchise-changer available.

The only way I turn down KD is if it's a sign and trade and GS wants to strip the Knicks to the foundation.

When the Season starts there are only 10 net posts on a thread in a month but on every Knick thread you have to post about the Nets. Who cares!

is most likely (based on vegas) to go to the Nets then they will prolly get mentioned on the thread. Just a hunch.

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When the Season starts there are only 10 net posts on a thread in a month but on every Knick thread you have to post about the Nets. Who cares!

Yeah we heard you the first time. Unfortunately the Nets are a better franchise and are in prime position to sign free agents we want. Free agency talk will include them. Should we just hang a banner at the Garden that states we have the bigger fan base? Will that make Knicks fans feel better? It means nothing.

Marc Stein
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The Nets are exploring the feasibility of signing Kevin Durant's close friend DeAndre Jordan in free agency, league sources say, in hopes that would make the prospect of teaming up in Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving even more enticing to Durant

by adding KD's mother to the coaching staff.

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Marc Stein @TheSteinLine The Nets are exploring the feasibility of signing Kevin Durant's close friend DeAndre Jordan in free agency, league sources say, in hopes that would make the prospect of teaming up in Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving even more enticing to Durant

how is that even possible?

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In comment 14481288 hitdog42 said: Quote: Marc Stein @TheSteinLine The Nets are exploring the feasibility of signing Kevin Durant's close friend DeAndre Jordan in free agency, league sources say, in hopes that would make the prospect of teaming up in Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving even more enticing to Durant how is that even possible?

the exception i think? and hope he takes that? really dont fully know the economics of all of what they trying to do-

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Marc Stein @TheSteinLine The Nets are exploring the feasibility of signing Kevin Durant's close friend DeAndre Jordan in free agency, league sources say, in hopes that would make the prospect of teaming up in Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving even more enticing to Durant

Missing pt2 of his tweet:

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The Knicks, of course, hung onto DeAndre Jordan after acquiring him from Dallas in the Porzingis blockbuster in February and have shown interest in re-signing Jordan depending on how the roster shakes out -- interest that naturally rises if Durant chooses Madison Square Garden

exception or at the minimum.

In comment 14481297 hitdog42 said:

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In comment 14481294 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14481288 hitdog42 said: Quote: Marc Stein @TheSteinLine The Nets are exploring the feasibility of signing Kevin Durant's close friend DeAndre Jordan in free agency, league sources say, in hopes that would make the prospect of teaming up in Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving even more enticing to Durant how is that even possible? the exception i think? and hope he takes that? really dont fully know the economics of all of what they trying to do-

he is not taking 5 million

If KD goes to the Nets, that would just be bizarre. It's like he gives no shits about the media, yet he's the guy with all the burner accounts. Just a weird dude.

He's a snake for going to GSW and getting the easy chip. Now, the media are setting him up to redeem himself by redeeming the Knicks, but he's going to go to BK? Just bizarre considering how much he apparently cares about his legacy.

for 10 million

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If the media has its way, they will find a way it is feasible for the Nets to sign Durant/Irving/DeAndre Jordan and Tobias Harris. If that is not enough, they will make Durant's brother dress up as Uncle Drew at all Nets home games.

I'm not sure when everybody jumped on the Nets bandwagon, but it has been bizarre.

Durant could sign there, but I cannot believe they are the favorites as of right now.

still wants to get paid at this point of his career I could see somebody offering him the full MLE. But if he wants to sign with one of the teams that go under the cap to sign a star, he's likely only getting the room exception which is much smaller. His game may have fallen off but he's not that old just yet.

They would have to renounce him to sign two max free agents like Kyrie and KD.

it would make no sense at all to leave the top team in the league, and take a risk, to go to the team with the worst attendance in the league. And the Nets had the worst attendance as a playoff team.

The Knicks were in the top 10 in attendance averaging just under a sell out to every game.

He leaves the Warriors not to chase a title, he has a couple of those, but to become a legend. Win with the Knicks, and you become a legend. Win with the Nets and you are Jason Kidd. Great BB player. Not a legend.

It has to be the Knicks or the Warriors.

It was in the context of saying 'my boy are both staying in GS'. He wasn't taking a shot at the Knicks. He was giving the normal, homer response to the dumb question of "where are Klay and KD going?"


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It was in the context of saying 'my boy are both staying in GS'. He wasn't taking a shot at the Knicks. He was giving the normal, homer response to the dumb question of "where are Klay and KD going?" Context Nak! - ( New Window )

Blame Marc Stein


Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine

Speaking on @CNBC to promote his new book The Sixth Man, Golden State's @andre Iguodala -- who has better Warriors sources than most of us -- said this about the free-agent pursuit of Kevin Durant:

And he clarified, he meant, none of his boys were going to the Knicks, because they're both staying in GS. And he's probably right.

"Nobody" = KD and Klay

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It was in the context of saying 'my boy are both staying in GS'. He wasn't taking a shot at the Knicks. He was giving the normal, homer response to the dumb question of "where are Klay and KD going?" Context Nak! - ( New Window )

It's 2019. It hasn't/won't stop the masses from taking the quote out of context to actually mean something lol

Let's get some answers and move on with our lives.

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn

Portland is trading Evan Turner to Atlanta for Kent Bazemore, league source tells ESPN.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn Portland is trading Evan Turner to Atlanta for Kent Bazemore, league source tells ESPN.

Why did ATL do that trade? Salaries cancel out. They must be getting a second round pick or two, no? Is Turner that close of a talent to Bazemore? I thought Bazemore was much better.

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In comment 14481397 Anakim said: Quote: Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn Portland is trading Evan Turner to Atlanta for Kent Bazemore, league source tells ESPN. Why did ATL do that trade? Salaries cancel out. They must be getting a second round pick or two, no? Is Turner that close of a talent to Bazemore? I thought Bazemore was much better.

Both players aren't very good. They must view Turner as a better fit for their team for some reason.

In comment 14481511 Strahan91 said:

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In comment 14481438 adamg said: Quote: In comment 14481397 Anakim said: Quote: Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn Portland is trading Evan Turner to Atlanta for Kent Bazemore, league source tells ESPN. Why did ATL do that trade? Salaries cancel out. They must be getting a second round pick or two, no? Is Turner that close of a talent to Bazemore? I thought Bazemore was much better. Both players aren't very good. They must view Turner as a better fit for their team for some reason.

Turner is extremely well regarded off the court. Not saying Bazemore isn't (no idea) but it's a young team so I could see them valuing that aspect.

And he looks the Michelin Man.

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