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Strahan91 : 6/24/2019 11:46 am
Figured it made sense to start a new thread now that the draft is over with and we're moving on to FA. Not much news today except:

1) Bondy said the Knicks aren't expected to have interest in signing Russell if he becomes UFA. Thinks they'll sign guys to 1 year deals if they strike out on KD, Kawhi, Kyrie rather than go after Russell and other similar FA's with max offers.

2) Jalen Rose thinks KD is headed to NY -- specifically the Knicks. Here's what he said:
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"The Knicks," Rose predicted. "I still feel like if you're going to leave the Golden State Warriors, it's not just about the rings; he got two there. It's not just about the money; he can get more there. It's the stage. If you're gonna come to New York City, that's at MSG."

Noteworthy because Rose is a roc nation client and therefore has ties to Kleiman. Of course, he may know nothing and is sharing his opinion but who knows.
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threeofakind33 : 6/26/2019 9:47 am : link
Depends.

The rumor was Lebron and DWade were set to sign with the Knicks until the last minute (and I mean the recent rumor, not the one at the time). So things can change.

I still think KD signs with the Knicks and Kyrie signs with Brooklyn.
BS  
Pete44 : 6/26/2019 9:51 am : link
There is so much BS out there right now. The only rumor, that I truly believe is Kyrie to the Nets. I don't think Durant even knows where he is going, which is why I respect Woj. While others speculate, he admits when he does not know.

Interestingly, Kyrie might be more interested in the Nets, than they are him without another star.
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nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 10:03 am : link
In comment 14483231 threeofakind33 said:
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Depends.

The rumor was Lebron and DWade were set to sign with the Knicks until the last minute (and I mean the recent rumor, not the one at the time). So things can change.

I still think KD signs with the Knicks and Kyrie signs with Brooklyn.


the rumor was they talked about knicks but knicks couldnt get 3 max slots..

same reason they didnt sign chicago
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threeofakind33 : 6/26/2019 10:19 am : link
I think that may have been a different one. The one I heard was that they were set to go and were really put off by the presentation from the NYK.

Yours sounds plausible as well.
I think it was called an  
Carl in CT : 6/26/2019 10:20 am : link
Eddie Curry problem if I remember.
Durant  
TyreeHelmet : 6/26/2019 10:22 am : link
Although I think people are severely underrating Kyrie as a player now, if the Knicks just get Durant things could work out for the Knicks. They have another year to build the roster, get another top pick and keep cap flexibility. Who knows what happens with Davis in LA, Kawhi and Giannis. Its not likely for any of those guys, but you never know.

But if the Knicks strike out and the Nets get Durant and Irving, thats a complete disaster. If that happens, this regime gets one more year. And unless the team really overachieves with the young players making huge strides, Im cleaning house from Mills down to Fizdale. I dont want to hear about free agency not being the Knicks goal or the KP trade not being about cap space. It would be a total failure.
lebron  
Pete44 : 6/26/2019 10:23 am : link
Lebron was never interested in the Knicks, they were always looking at Miami or possibly Chicago.

At the Draft, Miami traded somebody to clear the 3rd max slot. I can't remember who it was.
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Gatorade Dunk : 6/26/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14483268 Pete44 said:
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Lebron was never interested in the Knicks, they were always looking at Miami or possibly Chicago.

At the Draft, Miami traded somebody to clear the 3rd max slot. I can't remember who it was.

Technically, Miami never really got to three full max slots in 2010, right? Didn't all three sign for slightly less than the max to make it work?
RE: lebron  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14483268 Pete44 said:
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Lebron was never interested in the Knicks, they were always looking at Miami or possibly Chicago.

At the Draft, Miami traded somebody to clear the 3rd max slot. I can't remember who it was.


That's news to Lebron.

"LeBron commented on how cool it was to play against his friend in the Staples Center. Wade agreed. I appreciate you letting it end here.

James replied with a cryptic statement: It was either here or the Garden, thats it.
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Enzo : 6/26/2019 10:56 am : link
In comment 14483280 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14483268 Pete44 said:


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Lebron was never interested in the Knicks, they were always looking at Miami or possibly Chicago.

At the Draft, Miami traded somebody to clear the 3rd max slot. I can't remember who it was.


Technically, Miami never really got to three full max slots in 2010, right? Didn't all three sign for slightly less than the max to make it work?

I think they had room for 3 max's, but they took less to fit in Mike Miller.
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DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:08 am : link
Carmelo Anthony "would have interest in signing with the Knicks and finishing his career in New York," Ian Begley of SNY.tv reported Tuesday.

I still say  
djm : 6/26/2019 11:10 am : link
Theres a lot of attention being devoted to the low hanging fruit of this offseason, that being the big names in FA but it seems like many are ignprint that there are other ways to build a team in the NBA. There are trades. There are other FAs. The Knicks might miss out on Durant and Kyrie but that doesnt mean this roster is set in stone. Id bet a lot of money that the Knicks arent going to just rest on things and go with this same roster. They absolutely have to get a PG in here and they need other players. Whos to say the Knicks dont make a big trade over the next month or so? They have a lot of picks. They have young pieces.

With that said I think we sign Durant and Kyrie. People are over thinking the kyrie thing. Hes a huge talent at PG and the Knicks have a huge need. Get him.
You  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:13 am : link
know who might be a steal for a smart team? Jeremy Lamb. Under the radar a very, very solid player. Not really sure why nobody ever talks about him.
But a Randle/Russell  
Carl in CT : 6/26/2019 11:15 am : link
Move might be a smart thing in the long run. It keeps the rebuild going.
RE: But a Randle/Russell  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14483317 Carl in CT said:
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Move might be a smart thing in the long run. It keeps the rebuild going.


Both are getting huge money. That's locking yourself in to these 2 being 2 of your 3 best players. Can that team compete for a title?
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DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:18 am : link

From Marc Spears of ESPNs The Undefeated:

Other free agents on the Knicks radar include their own free-agent center DeAndre Jordan, Warriors center DeMarcus Cousins and twins Markieff and Marcus Morris. New Orleans Pelicans forward Julius Randle and the Knicks also have mutual interest, according to sources.

We are going to have the opportunity to meet with the guys we want to meet with, [Knicks president Steve] Mills said without offering details or confirming names.
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Enzo : 6/26/2019 11:19 am : link
In comment 14483309 DanMetroMan said:
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Carmelo Anthony "would have interest in signing with the Knicks and finishing his career in New York," Ian Begley of SNY.tv reported Tuesday.

I wouldn't bring him in. Even if we had a healthy Durant and another max and we were looking to contend, I'd avoid him.
They wont be anywhere near max...  
Italianju : 6/26/2019 11:28 am : link
money but i still dont want either of the morris twins. They will def be overpaid.

Boogie is all about the medicals. If you think he becomes his old self again then he was worth close to a max deal. Of course there is the question if you can win with him since he can be all over the place. Id be fine with him on like a 2 year deal for below max money, but i have no idea what kind of offers he will get.
Knicks could probably  
GMEN46 : 6/26/2019 11:33 am : link
Fit deangelo, Randle and Durant if they include lance in a trade with frank. I think that would save $6 mil. Would that get us over $70 million. Deangelo $22 mil, Durant $37 mil and Randle $12 mil. May not be enough for Randle.

One question I had lets say knicks signed to Maxs and were at or over cap would they get a mid level around $9 mil?

RE: lebron  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 11:35 am : link
In comment 14483268 Pete44 said:
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Lebron was never interested in the Knicks, they were always looking at Miami or possibly Chicago.

At the Draft, Miami traded somebody to clear the 3rd max slot. I can't remember who it was.


not according to dwade
Mike  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:36 am : link
Fisher says Kemba has "no interest" in the Knicks

-Spears says the Knicks are interested in Harris and Vucevic
KD  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:39 am : link
in Soho last night

RE: KD  
Giantz_comeback : 6/26/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14483350 DanMetroMan said:
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in Soho last night



The boot is orange. Lol. Many colors to choose and he chose orange .
RE: Mike  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/26/2019 11:50 am : link
In comment 14483343 DanMetroMan said:
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Fisher says Kemba has "no interest" in the Knicks

-Spears says the Knicks are interested in Harris and Vucevic


They're interested in Vucevic because........?
RE: RE: Where did you see that he is in soho  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 11:50 am : link
In comment 14483113 nygiants16 said:
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Rocking knicks colors?



Brother tweeted out a photo of them in soho...

His brand ambassador tweeted a i heart new york sign

Same guy with the I heart NY sign liked two photos on Instagram today. One was a picture of custom Knicks sneakers (complete with the #knicks tag) and the other was a Patrick Ewing Knicks figurine.

Odds are it means nothing but it definitely raises an eyebrow.
Stephen A  
Pete44 : 6/26/2019 11:51 am : link
SAS is reporting that Dolan wants to see Durant's medical report before agreeing to giving him the max.
I just noticed that he also liked two other Knicks  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 11:52 am : link
related things this morning. A photo of Melo with the quote about his interest in coming back to the Knicks and one of Julius Randle with a quote from the Spears story about their mutual interest
Durant  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:54 am : link
will officially become a FA 7/1, declined his player option.
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DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:55 am : link
In comment 14483370 Pete44 said:
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SAS is reporting that Dolan wants to see Durant's medical report before agreeing to giving him the max.


Every single team will want the same.
Durant declined  
Carl in CT : 6/26/2019 11:55 am : link
Player option with GS
Durant declined  
Carl in CT : 6/26/2019 11:56 am : link
Player option with GS.
Knicks  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 11:57 am : link
may be interested in Vince Carter.
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figgy2989 : 6/26/2019 11:59 am : link
In comment 14483385 DanMetroMan said:
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may be interested in Vince Carter.


This is going to sound  
Jon in NYC : 6/26/2019 11:59 am : link
batshit insane but I think Durants injury makes me want him more. Superstar player has debilitating injury, but triumphantly returns and leads laughingstock Knicks franchise to a title? Sign me the hell up.

Wouldnt feel right for the Knicks have an easy road after all this bad luck and incompetence.
RE: Durant declined  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14483382 Carl in CT said:
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Player option with GS.


and woj admits nobody but kd and kleinman know what he is doing
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DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14483389 figgy2989 said:
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In comment 14483385 DanMetroMan said:


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may be interested in Vince Carter.





They apparently want a veteran mentor for the younger players and tried bringing in Carter last year for this role but he opted for Atl.
Kleinman loses...  
Italianju : 6/26/2019 12:07 pm : link
his fan card if KD goes to BKN right???

I wouldnt hate Vince carter tbh. By all accounts he is one of the best vets you can have around. We need some guys to mentor these young guys and Carter has been around a very long time.
RE: RE: Durant declined  
Giantz_comeback : 6/26/2019 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14483402 nygiants16 said:
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Player option with GS.



and woj admits nobody but kd and kleinman know what he is doing


Things can always change. But alot have groundwork has been laid for him to come to MSG. Now Nets offer location in the same vicinity but I still think he stays with Knicks.

Kyrie wants him to go to Nets and as a friend he'll listen to what he has to say but end of day unless we get dicey with his contract stuff I'm betting hes a Knick.
Yeah, Vince would be fun to have around.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 12:09 pm : link
Much prefer him to Melo or JR Smith or any other AARP guys, and he has a lot of knowledge to impart.
I think KD is signing here.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 12:10 pm : link
Next season will be a lot more bearable knowing he's waiting in the wings - hope it gets done.
thank god this is only a few..  
Italianju : 6/26/2019 12:11 pm : link
days away. The constant speculation is exhausting, haha
At this point we really have to hope Barrett reaches his ceiling  
Giantz_comeback : 6/26/2019 12:12 pm : link
And becomes a bonafide star. A better scoring Grant Hill. If so you add a KD and maybe Tobias Harris and that is a team you can win with.

Kawhi of course would be best case scenario but I m not betting we beat out both Tor and LAC.
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giants#1 : 6/26/2019 12:15 pm : link
In comment 14483391 Jon in NYC said:
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batshit insane but I think Durants injury makes me want him more. Superstar player has debilitating injury, but triumphantly returns and leads laughingstock Knicks franchise to a title? Sign me the hell up.

Wouldnt feel right for the Knicks have an easy road after all this bad luck and incompetence.


Best part would be if they can get KD without Kyrie.
Durant  
TyreeHelmet : 6/26/2019 12:20 pm : link
If they get him his injury could be a blessing in disguise. I would use the remaining cap space on 1 year deals and rollover the space. Go after bed like Dudley, Carter etc. Team desperately needs some professionals. Then have the cap space next summer to go all in on building a team around Durant. Will have another top pick along with the Dallas picks if they want to trade for someone.

Maybe this works out for the Knicks but Im doubtful.
While scared of a 30+ player with an achilles  
Torrag : 6/26/2019 12:25 pm : link
I'd sign Durant. We'll be in the lottery again and can possibly use added short term contracts to amass some more draft capital at the deadline. Maybe the ping pong balls or whatever the hell the NBA uses will be kinder next year.
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DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 12:55 pm : link
Ian Begley

Verified account

@IanBegley
1m1 minute ago
More Ian Begley Retweeted SNY
Something that could be relevant for Knicks & Nets in free agency: multiple teams have expressed interest in pairing Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler and believe that, while Kawhi isnt looking to team up with anyone, Butler and Leonard they would have interest in playing together:
Why would kawhi want to play with  
jgambrosio : 6/26/2019 12:56 pm : link
Someone who has been a known locker room cancer?
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Anakim : 6/26/2019 12:57 pm : link
In comment 14483500 DanMetroMan said:
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Ian Begley

Verified account

@IanBegley
1m1 minute ago
More Ian Begley Retweeted SNY
Something that could be relevant for Knicks & Nets in free agency: multiple teams have expressed interest in pairing Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler and believe that, while Kawhi isnt looking to team up with anyone, Butler and Leonard they would have interest in playing together:



Eww. Giving Jimmy Butler a max? Ewwww.
If  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 1:00 pm : link
it means Kawhi, I wouldn't think twice.

Kawhi, Butler, Barrett, Knox, Mitch... suddenly the Knicks look pretty damn interesting.
I'd give Jimmy Carter the max if it locked in Kawhi.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 1:02 pm : link
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