for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

NFT: Knicks Thread

Strahan91 : 6/24/2019 11:46 am
Figured it made sense to start a new thread now that the draft is over with and we're moving on to FA. Not much news today except:

1) Bondy said the Knicks aren't expected to have interest in signing Russell if he becomes UFA. Thinks they'll sign guys to 1 year deals if they strike out on KD, Kawhi, Kyrie rather than go after Russell and other similar FA's with max offers.

2) Jalen Rose thinks KD is headed to NY -- specifically the Knicks. Here's what he said:
Quote:
"The Knicks," Rose predicted. "I still feel like if you're going to leave the Golden State Warriors, it's not just about the rings; he got two there. It's not just about the money; he can get more there. It's the stage. If you're gonna come to New York City, that's at MSG."

Noteworthy because Rose is a roc nation client and therefore has ties to Kleiman. Of course, he may know nothing and is sharing his opinion but who knows.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 <<Prev | Show All |  Next>>
RE: RE: .  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14483504 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 14483500 DanMetroMan said:


Quote:


Ian Begley

Verified account

@IanBegley
1m1 minute ago
More Ian Begley Retweeted SNY
Something that could be relevant for Knicks & Nets in free agency: multiple teams have expressed interest in pairing Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler and believe that, while Kawhi isnt looking to team up with anyone, Butler and Leonard they would have interest in playing together:




Eww. Giving Jimmy Butler a max? Ewwww.


if it means kawhi you give jimmy the max and run
RE: If  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14483511 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
it means Kawhi, I wouldn't think twice.

Kawhi, Butler, Barrett, Knox, Mitch... suddenly the Knicks look pretty damn interesting.


i think you start butler at point
RE: RE: If  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14483529 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 14483511 DanMetroMan said:


Quote:


it means Kawhi, I wouldn't think twice.

Kawhi, Butler, Barrett, Knox, Mitch... suddenly the Knicks look pretty damn interesting.



i think you start butler at point


Far from a bad idea given the fact he complains about touches.
Here's a hypothetical that will never happen  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 1:11 pm : link
but I'm curious what people think. Lets say Kawhi wants to come (this could apply to the Clippers too) and is ambivalent about Butler or Durant joining him and you can sign either one. Do you go with the healthy Butler and compete this year while the Warriors are down KD and Klay or hold off a year and go with the higher upside KD-Kawhi combo knowing full well that it's possible KD only returns to a shell of his former self?
RE: Here's a hypothetical that will never happen  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14483535 Strahan91 said:
Quote:
but I'm curious what people think. Lets say Kawhi wants to come (this could apply to the Clippers too) and is ambivalent about Butler or Durant joining him and you can sign either one. Do you go with the healthy Butler and compete this year while the Warriors are down KD and Klay or hold off a year and go with the higher upside KD-Kawhi combo knowing full well that it's possible KD only returns to a shell of his former self?


thats tough because you could compete with just kawhi, butler is clutch, but man a kawhi kd pairing is drool worthy
The  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 1:21 pm : link
Knicks are expected to meet with KD/Kawhi at the opening of FA per Isola
Also, I realize my post about Randy Williams liking Knicks stuff  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 1:22 pm : link
may have been lost in the KD opting out news but the more I think about it the more I'm thinking that this can't be a coincidence, right? Unless he's trolling but I don't think it's overt enough to be a troll job. The guy likes 4 Knicks-related posts on the day KD opts out?

Mavs  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 1:26 pm : link
to offer KP a max deal per Shams

Anthony Slater says the Durant sign and trade stuff is mostly BS
Everything is bigger with Knick fans  
xman : 6/26/2019 1:31 pm : link
including desperation. Repeating past mistakes signing older injured players seems like a misfire
Leonard pretty much carried Toronto to a title  
Greg from LI : 6/26/2019 1:50 pm : link
If there's any chance of signing him, they have to do anything necessary to make it happen.
Kawhi and Jimmy Butler  
Chris684 : 6/26/2019 1:57 pm : link
is more enticing to me than Durant and Kyrie.
RE: Kawhi and Jimmy Butler  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 2:15 pm : link
In comment 14483630 Chris684 said:
Quote:
is more enticing to me than Durant and Kyrie.

Agreed. Kawhi, Butler and Mitch are all excellent defenders. I'd love to find a great shooter in that scenario, and move one of Knox or Barrett (preferably Knox) to the bench. But that would be a first-world problem.
Leonard  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 2:20 pm : link
barring injury is going to not only have a HOF career but one with a resume up their with the true legends of the game.


2 titles (2 different teams)
2 DPOA
2 finals MVP's
All defensive 1st or 2nd team 5 times
4 top 10 MVP finishes (2 top 3 MVP finishes)

28 for all of next season
What I find so amazing about Kawhi is  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 2:31 pm : link
he fills roles on a team that typically require two or three different players. He's a dominant scorer, dominant defender and a great "glue guy" in terms of doing the little things (making the right reads, the extra pass, etc.). When his team goes up against a team with more talent, it still feels like a fair fight.
RE: What I find so amazing about Kawhi is  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14483696 bceagle05 said:
Quote:
he fills roles on a team that typically require two or three different players. He's a dominant scorer, dominant defender and a great "glue guy" in terms of doing the little things (making the right reads, the extra pass, etc.). When his team goes up against a team with more talent, it still feels like a fair fight.


doesn't get enough credit for the amount of energy/level of play he puts in on defense
Whatever with Kawhi and the Spurs?  
Chris684 : 6/26/2019 2:36 pm : link
I mean my understanding is that they wouldn't give him the supermax, but why?

After years with Duncan and then finally overlapping with Kawhi, that's like Favre to Rodgers, Montana to Young, DiMaggio to Mantle.

Pop could have ridden off into the sunset after Kawhi's prime and had like 7-8 titles, maybe more.
RE: Whatever with Kawhi and the Spurs?  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14483705 Chris684 said:
Quote:
I mean my understanding is that they wouldn't give him the supermax, but why?

After years with Duncan and then finally overlapping with Kawhi, that's like Favre to Rodgers, Montana to Young, DiMaggio to Mantle.

Pop could have ridden off into the sunset after Kawhi's prime and had like 7-8 titles, maybe more.


Leonards uncle Dennis Robertson finally shed some light on the specifics of a disagreement that led to a chasm between the two sides, eventually leading to his trade out of town.

I think it just became a lack of trust, Robertson told Yahoo Sports. They didnt believe Kawhi couldnt play and that caused a lack of trust in us and then us not believing in them. Any time a player says hes not capable of playing, you should believe him. Why would Kawhi just stop playing all of a sudden? Hes a competitor. Sometimes you get these team doctors telling you what you can and cannot do, and Kawhi was just in too much pain to get out there. This was a serious issue. They didnt believe him, and after that, the relationship couldnt recover and we decided we had to move on.
RE: Whatever with Kawhi and the Spurs?  
Amtoft : 6/26/2019 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14483705 Chris684 said:
Quote:
I mean my understanding is that they wouldn't give him the supermax, but why?

After years with Duncan and then finally overlapping with Kawhi, that's like Favre to Rodgers, Montana to Young, DiMaggio to Mantle.

Pop could have ridden off into the sunset after Kawhi's prime and had like 7-8 titles, maybe more.


Of course SA would have given him the supermax, but he said no matter what he was leaving. He has issues with the medical staff and coaches I believe.
Man, some folks at RealGM are posting photos  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 2:43 pm : link
of previous Knicks free agent introductory pressers - it's been a long 20 years.
Wow...  
Chris684 : 6/26/2019 2:44 pm : link
The Spurs as an organization needed to clean house in the medical dept. if that was the case.

Kanter says Zion is overhyped - "Julius Randle with hops."  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 3:37 pm : link
.
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 3:42 pm : link
Haha I love when Kanter gets owned like that.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 3:44 pm : link
What a troll. Couldn't stand his act after the first week or so.
RE: Everything is bigger with Knick fans  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/26/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14483584 xman said:
Quote:
including desperation. Repeating past mistakes signing older injured players seems like a misfire


I don't think KD off his soft tissue injury is the same kind of situation as knowingly signing amare with a denegerative, uninsurable knee condition. Kevin Durant is one of the best to ever play basketball. Even diminished he's a top 5 player.
RE: Man, some folks at RealGM are posting photos  
Greg from LI : 6/26/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14483723 bceagle05 said:
Quote:
of previous Knicks free agent introductory pressers - it's been a long 20 years.


Dream Team.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 3:54 pm : link
one of Donnie's most underrated  
Enzo : 6/26/2019 4:08 pm : link
horrible moves was what he got back from the Warriors in the David Lee sign-and-trade.
in fairness, that deal looked ok at the time  
Greg from LI : 6/26/2019 4:12 pm : link
Lee was gone anyway. Azubuike was a good young player but his injury basically ended his career. Randolph looked promising but flamed out.
I honestly didn't even remember what deal that was.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 4:13 pm : link
Hopefully this summer's photo ops are a little more exciting.
Rockets  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 4:26 pm : link

Adrian Wojnarowski

@wojespn
Reporting w/ @ZachLowe: Houstons offering Clint Capela, Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker individually to teams w/ space to absorb salary. Rockets trying for best available first-rounder for any of those three, hoping to redirect pick to Philly in pursuit of Jimmy Butler sign-and-trade.
RE: Rockets  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14483897 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:

Adrian Wojnarowski

@wojespn
Reporting w/ @ZachLowe: Houstons offering Clint Capela, Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker individually to teams w/ space to absorb salary. Rockets trying for best available first-rounder for any of those three, hoping to redirect pick to Philly in pursuit of Jimmy Butler sign-and-trade.


Morey actually believes he is getting a 1st in a salary dump
Capela  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 4:42 pm : link
is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.
RE: Capela  
Jan in DC : 6/26/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14483931 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.


Which makes me wonder why Philly doesn't just engage in a trade for him straight up? Unless they'd have to take some other salary to make that work.
RE: RE: Capela  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14483961 Jan in DC said:
Quote:
In comment 14483931 DanMetroMan said:


Quote:


is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.



Which makes me wonder why Philly doesn't just engage in a trade for him straight up? Unless they'd have to take some other salary to make that work.


because brett brown wont play him with embiid
RE: Capela  
dep026 : 6/26/2019 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14483931 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.


Limited repotoire and maybe a product of Hardens game. Can he put up numbers in a team system instead of just catch lob passes?
enjoy this stroll down memory lane  
Greg from LI : 6/26/2019 5:09 pm : link
Shams echoing Woj regarding KD: He hasn't tipped his hand at all.  
bceagle05 : 6/26/2019 5:12 pm : link
So everything you've heard recently about KD is complete nonsense.
RE: RE: Capela  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 5:21 pm : link
In comment 14483994 dep026 said:
Quote:
In comment 14483931 DanMetroMan said:


Quote:


is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.



Limited repotoire and maybe a product of Hardens game. Can he put up numbers in a team system instead of just catch lob passes?


Those questions aside don't turn him into a salary dump. He's 25 for the entire season. He finished 5th in rebounds, 3rd in FG%, 16th in PER. He's making 18 million per.
RE: RE: RE: Capela  
dep026 : 6/26/2019 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14484020 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
In comment 14483994 dep026 said:


Quote:


In comment 14483931 DanMetroMan said:


Quote:


is no salary dump. Age 24 season.. 17 and 13. If anything he's underpaid.



Limited repotoire and maybe a product of Hardens game. Can he put up numbers in a team system instead of just catch lob passes?



Those questions aside don't turn him into a salary dump. He's 25 for the entire season. He finished 5th in rebounds, 3rd in FG%, 16th in PER. He's making 18 million per.


Im questioning why teams may not want him. His FG% is nice. But he cant make a shot outside 3 feet. And if there isnt a good guard on the team.... how is he going to get any shots?
RE: Shams echoing Woj regarding KD: He hasn't tipped his hand at all.  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14484003 bceagle05 said:
Quote:
So everything you've heard recently about KD is complete nonsense.


and kyrie is overseas, do people really think he is telling reporters what he is doing?
RE: RE: Shams echoing Woj regarding KD: He hasn't tipped his hand at all.  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14484029 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 14484003 bceagle05 said:


Quote:


So everything you've heard recently about KD is complete nonsense.



and kyrie is overseas, do people really think he is telling reporters what he is doing?

I heard Begley earlier who said word around the league is that Kyrie has Brooklyn at the top of his list but he also doesnt think Kyrie is going to go there alone so the scenario that he goes to the Knicks or Lakers is in play if the Nets cant find a star to pair him with that hes interested in playing with.
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/26/2019 5:34 pm : link


Adrian Wojnarowski

Verified account

@wojespn
Following Following @wojespn
More Adrian Wojnarowski Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski
Philadelphia has been privately expressing confidence around NBA that it can re-sign Butler and Tobias Harris, but Houston remains on case of selling Butler/76ers with a sign-and-trade scenario once free agency starts on Sunday.
Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 8:56 pm : link
If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks
DOesnt oakley  
GMEN46 : 6/26/2019 9:09 pm : link
Hate the knicks
RE: Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
Strahan91 : 6/26/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14484163 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks

is that a current pic? you can't see his legs but doesn't look like a guy who just had achilles surgery
Gotta love oak if he is recruiting for the knicks  
Italianju : 6/26/2019 9:12 pm : link
Doing it for the fans cause you know he hates the owner. Haha.
RE: DOesnt oakley  
steve in ky : 6/26/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14484176 GMEN46 said:
Quote:
Hate the knicks


Yeah I thought he was even banned from the Garden
RE: Gotta love oak if he is recruiting for the knicks  
steve in ky : 6/26/2019 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14484181 Italianju said:
Quote:
Doing it for the fans cause you know he hates the owner. Haha.


I really have to wonder if he was recruiting or warning.
RE: RE: Oakley aparrently with KD in new york  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2019 9:16 pm : link
In comment 14484178 Strahan91 said:
Quote:
In comment 14484163 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


If you believe the hashtags he is recruiting for the knicks


is that a current pic? you can't see his legs but doesn't look like a guy who just had achilles surgery


i dunno, he makes it seem like it is, but i dunno
Kawhi/ Spurs  
TyreeHelmet : 6/26/2019 9:52 pm : link
Theres still more to that story. I love him as a player- hes an all time great. But he definitely quit on the Spurs. There are stories of him going all out playing 2v2 and 3v3 with a retired Duncan while the Spurs were practicing. Something happened that made him want out of the Spurs. Even Ginobili of all people knocked him publicly.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 <<Prev | Show All |  Next>>
Back to the Corner