Good morning and as expected Jonathan Holder was sent to SWB to see if he can be salvaged. Speculation is that Tarpley will be brought up as he was an opener for SWB last pitching 3 innings Saturday.
Davidoff in the Post wrote an article on how the Yanks are still hitting homers but are also scoring runs via singles and doubles at a much higher rate than last season. Like we didn't know that already. Well some of us, anyway.
Both the Post and Ledger blame the "tight" contest last night on the bullpen blowing up - which is not really truth in journalism while technically correct. It got tight because of Holder and Holder only. The bull pen didn't get wrecked, it was one pitcher in the pen.
Odd choice by Boone, IMHO, that he used Green to bailout Holder. If Green was set as the opener for Tuesday(today), why wouldn't Boone have had another pitcher in mind to salvage the inning if Holder continued his meltdown, which was not a stretch of the imagination. Boone is organized as heck, seems like he had not thought this through (then again he likely didn't expect Holder to not record a single out.) But I think we all knew Holder needed to be sent down to figure out what was going on. With Tarpley ready at SBW, this could(should) have been down after the last meltdown (Friday?).
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Hicks swings last night looked a lot better. He was on pitches that he swung at. I think he is ready to breakout. Voit looks like he has had a bad night and then you see he was 2-5 with 2 rbis. He is not hitting HRs like I expected, but he sure is driving the ball even when it is an out. I did not like LeMahieu at 1st last night. Lack of playing experience there and it showed. Thankfully Edwin will primarily swap with Voit with DJ taking the odd game. Gardy quietly had his average up to .238 before going 0-4 last night. I think he will benefit greatly from reduced playing time.
Anybody else think that if Gio Urshela continues to hit in the .270-.290 range through the year that Miguel Andujar will be moved to either another position or for a trade? Gio's fielding is just so good. Urshela is really a bench guy, while Andujar is a starter. But with LeMahieu, Torres and Didi do the Yankees need another one position poor fielder on the roster despite his obvious hitting ability (with power)?
MadBum is really the only one among the realistic list that I'd prefer not to take on, at least not when giving up anything of value.
To me, he has little value beyond the cost of his remaining salary for the year. Maybe a wildcard prospect or two, but nothing near any of Frazier/Andujar/Deivi/Florial.
Not a MadBum fan for the Yanks. Scherzer is a pipe dream and he is 34 and wildly expensive. Maybe he is Justin Verlander, maybe (as example only - no correlation to talent) he is Happ(falls off the table).
I happen to like Wheeler. I can see why you don't, but I believe in the stuff. I think we just disagree on that one.
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He's getting tattooed: only 14.4% soft contact, 38.6% medium, 47% hard. Ground balls down to 35.9%. Putting him in YS with numbers like that is terrifying, honestly.
Not a MadBum fan for the Yanks. Scherzer is a pipe dream and he is 34 and wildly expensive. Maybe he is Justin Verlander, maybe (as example only - no correlation to talent) he is Happ(falls off the table).
Scherzer's salary isn't as bad as it appears at first blush. For salary cap purposes he's going to cost about 57 million for 2020 + 2021, every big market team in baseball would pay Max Scherzer 2 years 57 million given the chance
Also, the Astros have proven to have some kind of secret formula to improving pitchers. They've done it with multiple guys now - Verlander, Cole, Morton, they all pitched significantly better with Houston than their previous clubs. The Yankees don't have that kind of track record. Honestly, I wish the Yankees could poach their pitching coaches.
I do think Wheeler's 2nd half last year was more outlier than anything else. And I don't think the Mets would be particularly thrilled to send him here without a hefty enough return; so it's probably not a great match, but NYY could do worse.
I agree and lean toward Stroman. I believe the Yankees just need a steady pitcher, likely to be in the 3.50 to 3.85 ERA range that can go deep into the game especially if Severino returns as well as German.
This team will be hard to subdue on the offensive side.
And he's pitched his entire career in the AL East. He knows what it's like. After watching a bunch of touted guys come in from the NL, or even the AL West, and struggle, I think there's something to that. I wouldn't empty the farm for Stroman, but he'd be a quality pickup.
hoya - Wheeler just looks like one of those guys who will always break your heart. Big arm, looks overwhelming at times, but just can't ever really put it together. He's a white Pineda to me, basically.
Also, the Astros have proven to have some kind of secret formula to improving pitchers. They've done it with multiple guys now - Verlander, Cole, Morton, they all pitched significantly better with Houston than their previous clubs. The Yankees don't have that kind of track record. Honestly, I wish the Yankees could poach their pitching coaches.
If responding to me Greg, I was referring to Verlander pitching well as long as he has (36 or 37 y/o) with no drop off. If Scherzer would do that he would be worth the money, but the cost to get him would be crazy. I was looking for extremes on older pitchers. Those who looked good and continued (Velander) and those that fell apart quickly (Happ) - not that Happ is in the same class as Velander or Scherzer..
Wasn't it Eck that got into it with Price last year?
Trying hard not to jinx the kid....;-p
LOL. Eckersley was literally one of the most demonstrative pitchers I can ever remember. I can't believe he said anything about Stroman. Eckersley would literally yell at batters from the mound, "punch" them out... you name it. He was a dick.
Great pitcher, but he was a dick.
gotcha - the most likely thing to help Bumgarner is the Yanks defense and offense. Not sure he and the Stadium are a good match.
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Combined with the pen for a no hitter last night! Deivi went 5 and struck out 9. That's one hit in his last 11 innings. His new slider has really made a difference for him. He's relying less on the fastball. Has that killer curve along with a good changeup and a very promising slider. Kid is on fire!
Trying hard not to jinx the kid....;-p
I hear ya, lol...
Not sure it was reported, think it happened on a plane....we may not "like" Price, but he is not a douchebag.
Young Deivi is only 20 and has never topped 74 innings before. He's at 64 right now and I imagine his limit will be around 110, so maybe they could use him as a reliever down the stretch, but he's not going to fix the hole in the rotation. Not this season, anyway.
@martinonyc
It’s good that Marcus Stroman said he welcomes NY, but Jays and Yankees have been apart on value. 1.5 years of control for Stroman is not a ton
@martinonyc
It’s good that Marcus Stroman said he welcomes NY, but Jays and Yankees have been apart on value. 1.5 years of control for Stroman is not a ton
Hey, I don't blame the Jays. They are trying to pick Cashman's pocket. Maybe why the kid Castillo from the Reds was mentioned - a little diversion.
Stroman’s stock just went up a couple points IMO...feels like a guy who’d relish the big stage
Don't know him either, but of course the Jays are trying to squeeze Cash. Yanks need a pitcher and the Jays have one that fits. Do they expect Frazier, Andujar and Garcia? No. But I'm sure it won't be two A ball guys and a AA player. (well maybe it will be?)
Whoops!!!!!
All those Ks don't depend on the park! But I hear you.
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Chad Green will be the #Yankees opener tonight.
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Chad Green will be the #Yankees opener tonight.
Hmmm, probably only 1 inning instead of two. Would not be surprised if followed by Tarpley, then Cortes. RH,LH,RH
Well it is a good formula..they have 4 wins(?) with that combo?
So, we'll probably see Green go one, then they'll probably hope they can get ~4 out of Cortes.
Figure Hale will definitely pitch somewhere in the middle innings depending on how deep Cortes can go and Britton would serve as the closer - I'm presuming they'll stay away from Chapman tonight.
Ideally you give Otto a night off, but I believe he only needed 3 bullets to get us out of the 8th last night. Kahnle should be available if we need him for at least a couple batters.
Also a good point.
If he gets through the first in like 10 pitches or less, I could see them sending him back out in the 2nd to try to at least get another couple outs.
I know and like Dan's contributions and have for years.
I tossed off a quick thought in an inarticulate way.
I was aiming at the following:
If I am a Met fan I am not happy at this time. What happens often is posts made in irritation. If I am a Yankee fan, Im riding high and forgetting what stuck looks like ( which as a matter of year counts in my case is less 50/50 good years from about 1965).
About the only thing that can ruin a good community of posters on Yankee Threads is us squabbling with Mets or Sox fans ( there used to be more and more difficult Sox trolls in the past).
Did not intend for that comment to be about Dan or today.
Sorry Dan and thank you to the guys who made that clear to him like bigbluehoya and arc and others.
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In comment 14482328 Greg from LI said:
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He's getting tattooed: only 14.4% soft contact, 38.6% medium, 47% hard. Ground balls down to 35.9%. Putting him in YS with numbers like that is terrifying, honestly.
Not a MadBum fan for the Yanks. Scherzer is a pipe dream and he is 34 and wildly expensive. Maybe he is Justin Verlander, maybe (as example only - no correlation to talent) he is Happ(falls off the table).
Scherzer's salary isn't as bad as it appears at first blush. For salary cap purposes he's going to cost about 57 million for 2020 + 2021, every big market team in baseball would pay Max Scherzer 2 years 57 million given the chance
Agreed but it's the 105 mil of deferred money I'm sure most would balk at. He's due 15 mil a year for seven years starting in 2022 I believe. So unless the Nats kicked in some dough, you'd really be taking on over 160 mil for two and a half years
Agreed but it's the 105 mil of deferred money I'm sure most would balk at. He's due 15 mil a year for seven years starting in 2022 I believe. So unless the Nats kicked in some dough, you'd really be taking on over 160 mil for two and a half years
The trade won't happen, but if I were Cashman I'd tell the Nats that the deferred money is theirs to cover. Basically, they averaged out his salary for several years past his contract, so most of it was already earned while he was playing with the Nationals. The Yanks may have taken the salaries for the next two seasons, but they are not paying for what he earned previously.
I'm a big Bauer fan but there is baggage that could blow up on us in this town. We've discussed it at least twice here so no need to go into the details, but if you're unfamiliar some googling will get you there.