NFT: NHL Free Agency Thread

Aaron Portzline
@Aportzline

#CBJ are trying to get this done tonight � as in within the next two hours. After that, they can�t give him eight years.

Clock, ticking.

paying Bob $10M per. that's a lot.

Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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The Panarin Plot thickens:
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Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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Also hear the CBJ offered around $12 M or so a year over 8 years .... (link: https://twitter.com/aportzline/status/1145514428990939136) twitter.com/aportzline/sta�

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Here's the thing about a $96M+ offer to Artemi Panarin from #CBJ: Another team would have to go to a ~$13.7M AAV to match the total compensation.

However, the contract needs to be done by midnight ET to include the eighth year.
10:48 PM � Jun 30, 2019 � Twitter for Android

Although it would be disappointing to miss the chance to offer sheet marner.

from Friedman this morning (reiterating much that is already posted)


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Bob McKenzie
‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie

Expect hometown boy Jason Spezza to sign a one-year contract with TOR today.
8:34 AM - 1 Jul 201

See my post about Galchenyak? Curious your thoughts.

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See my post about Galchenyak? Curious your thoughts.

In the draft thread? I replied to it didn't I?

Arthur Staple
@StapeAthletic
Just about 3 hours left until the gates open. Sure seems like best offer out there for Panarin is from the #Isles. COL/NYR offers on table but for less term and/or less $. Already rejected 12m from CBJ and FLA's cap space is dwindling. Nothing decided yet, it appears.


Stick to your guns, JD and Gorton. Don't break the bank.

Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
Sounds like $12m per is magic # for Panarin. Trouba is going to come in at close to $8m. NYR have about $18.4 of space and don�t have Buchnevich, Lemieux, DeAngelo signed yet. Cap space presumes Smith in AHL.

#13M AAV for Panarin. It's just hard to find an elite talent at his age available on the UFA market. These guys usually sign extensions with their teams.

Will stink if the Rangers get him, but we'll have to suck it up and move on. Hoping to get the final news soon either way.

It seems pretty clear he is leveraging the isles and other offers to get JD to jump back in.

If he wanted Columbus he would've already signed for the 8th year.

to OTT.

If the Habs want to give him 8 per lol. Good luck no hard feelings.

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It seems pretty clear he is leveraging the isles and other offers to get JD to jump back in. If he wanted Columbus he would've already signed for the 8th year.

Isles need to make their best offer (which should be really strong, as high as 7yr/$91M) and if he goes elsewhere, even to NYR, you shake it off at move on. I like the approach of being aggressive and going after elite talent.

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If the Habs want to give him 8 per lol. Good luck no hard feelings.

Where did you see that? 5yrs/$40M or something like that is a whole lot of money for Lee. I'll still cheer him when he comes back to the Island.

saying Jackets are out on Lee as bidding might be as high at $9MAAC for him. WOW

All ufas require an overpay.

Majority of these deals will be albatrosses in two years.

separate thread set up for Panarin.


Bob McKenzie
‏ @brandonco4
9m9 minutes ago

Expect Jimmy Vesey on the move from NYR today. Last night BUF and EDM were both vying for the former Hobey Baker winner. Rangers clearing room for Panarin, who they feel is within their grasp.
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account on that Vesey rumor

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separate thread set up for Panarin. Bob McKenzie ‏ @brandonco4 9m9 minutes ago Expect Jimmy Vesey on the move from NYR today. Last night BUF and EDM were both vying for the former Hobey Baker winner. Rangers clearing room for Panarin, who they feel is within their grasp. 13 replies 4 retweets 22 likes

Look at the username. It's not the real Bob McKenzie

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
According to sources, Carolina got calls from 3 different teams today on Sebastian Aho, hinting at an offer sheet. The 'Canes told them they would match any offer sheet. Carolina did tell them they would entertain trade conversation. Believe that Habs is among 3 teams who called

damn it.

I do think Vesey could be moved though.

I don't get fans who would pay 10 or 10.5 but not 12. Seems arbitrary to me.


Sean Tierney
‏ @ChartingHockey
34m34 minutes ago

Glad I'm not the one paying him but Panarin checks all the boxes as a UFA. Like other elite players, he's probably great for 2 more years, good for 2 years after that, then who knows for the last 3 years of the deal.

In comment 14488096 pjcas18 said:

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I don't get fans who would pay 10 or 10.5 but not 12. Seems arbitrary to me. Sean Tierney ‏ @ChartingHockey 34m34 minutes ago Glad I'm not the one paying him but Panarin checks all the boxes as a UFA. Like other elite players, he's probably great for 2 more years, good for 2 years after that, then who knows for the last 3 years of the deal.

12M is McDavid-esque. 10.5 is the same amount that the Blackhawks are paying Patrick Kane.

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In comment 14488096 pjcas18 said: Quote: I don't get fans who would pay 10 or 10.5 but not 12. Seems arbitrary to me. Sean Tierney ‏ @ChartingHockey 34m34 minutes ago Glad I'm not the one paying him but Panarin checks all the boxes as a UFA. Like other elite players, he's probably great for 2 more years, good for 2 years after that, then who knows for the last 3 years of the deal. 12M is McDavid-esque. 10.5 is the same amount that the Blackhawks are paying Patrick Kane.

McDavid was extended early. You have to consider the cost of acquiring free agents.

Kane and McDavid never hit free agency.

Comparing Tavares to Panarin is more appropriate.

I don't think the Rangers are quite ready to win now. If this were 2021 and Panarin were the same age and available, I'd probably feel differently. Right now, though, I can't shake the suspicion that he'll start declining in a few years right as the team is getting close to contention.

this year is fine. 11 million for Panarin 7 years from now, probably not.

Losing an elite talent over the cost of a vet 4th liner is silly. You can make up the difference with an entry level contract grinder. There is a limitless supply.

Term is the scarier thing, not compensation.

New York Rangers
‏Verified account @NYRangers
23s23 seconds ago

OFFICIAL: #NYR have acquired a third-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft from the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for Jimmy Vesey.

fake bob mckenzie was right.

of these deals. Hall is looking at 11 mill+ per if we re-sign him, and the others- Nico/Hughes will be looking at big pay days within the next 3 years. I'd sign a top guy to most any $ over the next 3 seasons with the space we have, but 5-6 years is prohibitive.

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I don't think the Rangers are quite ready to win now. If this were 2021 and Panarin were the same age and available, I'd probably feel differently. Right now, though, I can't shake the suspicion that he'll start declining in a few years right as the team is getting close to contention.

I'm with you. Team is at least two years away. And I think that's being incredibly optimistic.

Panarin.

But the young guys need some time. The defense is still going to be a mess for another year or two.

but I feel like Panarin wants the Rangers and there have been a lot of leaks to the media designed to get the Rangers to up the offer just a bit

Now the Rangers shipping off Vesey while taking no salary back. I think there's a chance the Rangers slip in here and steal the Bread Man. We'll see

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fake bob mckenzie was right.

Which makes him more accurate than Eklund ever was

It should be at least a good bit better than last year, not that it's a high bar to clear. If the defense is at least average, they can be a solid team that could win a playoff round.

from being a playoff contender. They should be a wild card contender this year.

without Panarin.

they added Trouba, Fox, Kakko, Kravstov, etc. and have a lot of cap room to make additional adds (without Panarin).

with Panarin they should be expected to make the playoffs.

Not just making the playoffs.

they must think they are in on Panarin.

July 1 heartbreak for NYI fans, what else is new?

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Not just making the playoffs.

baby steps.

IMO playoff experience is valuable to a young team. If you can get guys like Chytil, Andersson, Kravstov, Kakko, etc. some good playoff experience in a gravy year (like the Avs did) I think it will pay off down the road - even if it's just preparation for a road game and avoiding a slow start/momentum from the home team.

I agree though, no they are not cup contenders this year.

In a season though where an 8 seed made the conference finals, just getting in is valuable.

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they must think they are in on Panarin. July 1 heartbreak for NYI fans, what else is new?

Careful about reading tea leaves. Everyone thought last Saturday that dumping Marleau was a pre-cursor to the Leafs getting Subban, and within minutes he was a Devil.

to the Canadiens. No idea why Montreal is opposed to having a young, quality, backup.

Last year it was ancient Niemi.

this year mediocre Kinkaid.

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In comment 14488167 Metnut said: Quote: they must think they are in on Panarin. July 1 heartbreak for NYI fans, what else is new? Careful about reading tea leaves. Everyone thought last Saturday that dumping Marleau was a pre-cursor to the Leafs getting Subban, and within minutes he was a Devil.

Most people thought Marleau was clearing room for Marner, Johnsson and their other RFAs

still firmly in his prime, I don't buy that he wouldn't line up with the young guys or that he'd start to decline by the time they're ready to fully contend.

He's only played 4 NHL seasons. Coming from the KHL before that with shorter seasons, he doesn't have a ton of miles on him (see the link below). Hasn't dealt with injuries, unlike when we were talking about a big deal for Karlsson a few weeks back.

I said last week I'd be fine if they passed on him because 11-12 million is a lot and there's only a few players I'd really feel comfortable giving that to, with Panarin just on the border of that group.

But the reasons to pass would not be related to his age, or that he wouldn't line up properly with the young players. I actually think the timeline matches up pretty well and would all of a sudden create an incredibly skilled forward group.

Plus the comedy of stealing him from the Islanders would be fantastic, we can all agree there
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In comment 14488192 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 14488187 Stu11 said: Quote: In comment 14488167 Metnut said: Quote: they must think they are in on Panarin. July 1 heartbreak for NYI fans, what else is new? Careful about reading tea leaves. Everyone thought last Saturday that dumping Marleau was a pre-cursor to the Leafs getting Subban, and within minutes he was a Devil. Most people thought Marleau was clearing room for Marner, Johnsson and their other RFAs

Yes but there was a ton of buzz that morning about them and Subban

Panarin

Frank Seravalli
‏Verified account @frank_seravalli
55s56 seconds ago

Three more years of #CliffyHockey. #NHLBruins have agreed to terms on a three-year extension with Connor Clifton worth $3 million total. He has one year left at $725k, extension can be papered as soon as today.