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Anakim : 6/30/2019 9:58 pm
Begins at noon on 7/1


Here's what we know so far:



BUF - Lazar
CGY - Talbot
DAL - Pavelski, Corey Perry
DET - Pickard
EDM - Smith
FLA - Bobrovsky, Connolly
Islanders- Varlamov
MIN - Zuccarello, Hartman
NSH - Duchene
TBL - Schenn
TOR - Agostino
WSH - Panik



As for Panarin,


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The Blue Jackets are still trying to convince Artemi Panarin to return to Columbus. Still hoping theres a chance.
Looks like a 3 team race.
CBJ. NYI. Florida.


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Hearing AAV could be $13M. Dont know if its the exact number but the biddings are high.
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Rangers also made a few depth signings  
Greg from LI : 7/1/2019 4:32 pm : link
Trying to turn Hartford into a functional hockey team by adding vets who have played well in the A ....Danny O'Regan and Greg McKegg.
7 years, 49 million for Anders Lee  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/1/2019 4:38 pm : link
re-signing with the Islanders.
RE: 7 years, 49 million for Anders Lee  
Anakim : 7/1/2019 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14488789 Mike in Long Beach said:
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re-signing with the Islanders.


Seems like a fair deal for both sides...almost TOO fair in this market.
RE: RE: 7 years, 49 million for Anders Lee  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/1/2019 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14488790 Anakim said:
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In comment 14488789 Mike in Long Beach said:


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re-signing with the Islanders.



Seems like a fair deal for both sides...almost TOO fair in this market.


Totally agree, and he had every right to milk us for every penny after getting all starry-eyed for Panarin (congrats btw).
The AAV  
Metnut : 7/1/2019 4:42 pm : link
is fair but the term is two years longer than I'd like. I'm still really bummed about Panarin, but I've watched Lee since he was in college so it's cool that he'll be an Islander for just about his entire career.

Isles still have a decent amount of cap room, and some very tradeable contracts to create another $8M or so of cap room (Leddy, Hickey), so I think Isles will try a trade to add another top 6 to the offense.
RE: The AAV  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/1/2019 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14488799 Metnut said:
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is fair but the term is two years longer than I'd like. I'm still really bummed about Panarin, but I've watched Lee since he was in college so it's cool that he'll be an Islander for just about his entire career.

Isles still have a decent amount of cap room, and some very tradeable contracts to create another $8M or so of cap room (Leddy, Hickey), so I think Isles will try a trade to add another top 6 to the offense.


Yup, The Lee deal leaves open 5.5 mil in Cap room that they wouldn't have had with Panarin, so I think they need to go after a secondary asset with that money now. Someone like Dzingel.
Pretty good deal for the Isles  
Giants in 07 : 7/1/2019 5:04 pm : link
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Lehner  
pjcas18 : 7/1/2019 5:49 pm : link
to CHI, 1 year $5M
Im an blackhawks fan  
KDubbs : 7/1/2019 5:50 pm : link
Now
Rough day for the Islanders if this is accurate  
pjcas18 : 7/1/2019 5:51 pm : link

John Shannon
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12s13 seconds ago

Robin Lehner, who turned down NYIs offer of 2 years at 5 million per, is going to Chicago for 1 Year at the same amount.

#signingseason
Crawford and Lehner combined  
pjcas18 : 7/1/2019 5:56 pm : link
$1M more than Bobrovsky.

I like that CHI is not so reliant on Crawford.

Good bet to bounce back and contend after a down year.
They signed  
KDubbs : 7/1/2019 5:57 pm : link
Valarmov to 4 yrs 🤦🏻‍♂️ Lou is def awesome! Blah blah sorokin
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pjcas18 : 7/1/2019 6:01 pm : link

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Hurricanes re-sign goaltender Petr Mrazek: $6.25M over 2 years. That's a $3.125M cap hit.
RE: Rough day for the Islanders if this is accurate  
BrettNYG10 : 7/1/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14488884 pjcas18 said:
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John Shannon
‏Verified account @JSportsnet
12s13 seconds ago

Robin Lehner, who turned down NYIs offer of 2 years at 5 million per, is going to Chicago for 1 Year at the same amount.

#signingseason


I don't get that decision by him at all.
RE: Rough day for the Islanders if this is accurate  
arcarsenal : 7/1/2019 6:07 pm : link
In comment 14488884 pjcas18 said:
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John Shannon
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12s13 seconds ago

Robin Lehner, who turned down NYIs offer of 2 years at 5 million per, is going to Chicago for 1 Year at the same amount.

#signingseason


Oof.
RE: Lehner  
Jay on the Island : 7/1/2019 6:28 pm : link
In comment 14488880 pjcas18 said:
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to CHI, 1 year $5M

Wow, I am very high on Blackwood but I wish the Devils could have added him at that price.
RE: RE: Rough day for the Islanders if this is accurate  
pjcas18 : 7/1/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14488903 BrettNYG10 said:
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John Shannon
‏Verified account @JSportsnet
12s13 seconds ago

Robin Lehner, who turned down NYIs offer of 2 years at 5 million per, is going to Chicago for 1 Year at the same amount.

#signingseason



I don't get that decision by him at all.


Me either unless he felt this year being a backup/time share with Crawford can further establish his value for a long-term contract.

It doesn't make sense (if true). Never know what to believe with FA rumors.
Isles signed POS Varlamov for 4 years?!?  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/1/2019 6:35 pm : link
Holy Fuck

I was fine with losing Lehner until the price tags came in.

Sorokin is a white whale.
...  
Jay on the Island : 7/1/2019 7:05 pm : link
Varlamov is close friends with Islanders goalie prospect Illya Sorokin. Sorokin's KHL deal expires after next season.
....  
Jay on the Island : 7/1/2019 7:09 pm : link
The Toronto Maple Leafs have acquired defenceman Tyson Barrie, forward Alex Kerfoot and a 2020 sixth-round draft pick from the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for forward Nazem Kadri, defenceman Calle Rosen and Torontos 2020 third-round pick.

Colorado is retaining 50 per cent of Barries annual average salary cap of $5.5 million.
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arcarsenal : 7/1/2019 7:22 pm : link
The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?
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KDubbs : 7/1/2019 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14488962 arcarsenal said:
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The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?


They threw lehner aside while they tried to get the package of panarin/bob. Then they decided sorokins buddy was more important. Its a terrible look for the franchise considering nobody wants to be here except for Lehner and their own guys. Very frustrated. Im tired of the Trust Lou nonsense from my fellow delusional isles fans
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Mike in NY : 7/1/2019 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14488962 arcarsenal said:
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The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?


Except Lehner doesnt have ties to Sorokin and has not proven he can start 50-60 games and everyday in postseason.
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Jay on the Island : 7/1/2019 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14488965 KDubbs said:
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The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?



They threw lehner aside while they tried to get the package of panarin/bob. Then they decided sorokins buddy was more important. Its a terrible look for the franchise considering nobody wants to be here except for Lehner and their own guys. Very frustrated. Im tired of the Trust Lou nonsense from my fellow delusional isles fans

Why would you have any faith in Lou after that dismal season the Islanders had a year ago?
I like that deal for TOR.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/1/2019 7:28 pm : link
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I don't get signing Varlamov but they offered Lehner 2 years same aav  
Eric on Li : 7/1/2019 7:28 pm : link
something is bizarre there considering it was like 12 days he said he wanted to stay on whatever term deal they offered.
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Mike in NY : 7/1/2019 7:29 pm : link
In comment 14488965 KDubbs said:
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The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?



They threw lehner aside while they tried to get the package of panarin/bob. Then they decided sorokins buddy was more important. Its a terrible look for the franchise considering nobody wants to be here except for Lehner and their own guys. Very frustrated. Im tired of the Trust Lou nonsense from my fellow delusional isles fans


They offered Lehner 2/10 and I believe he wanted 12 or 14 on a 2 year deal. Islanders then moved on to Varlamov. I dont think they were ever giving Bob what he got from Florida.
Dont like the Varm deal on its face  
Metnut : 7/1/2019 7:31 pm : link
but at some point we have to accept that Trotz and Korn can scout and get the most out of goalies. Their track records are pretty amazing.
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arcarsenal : 7/1/2019 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14488966 Mike in NY said:
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The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?



Except Lehner doesnt have ties to Sorokin and has not proven he can start 50-60 games and everyday in postseason.


Lehner was a Vezina finalist last year and only started like 5-6 fewer games than Varlomov did, no?

Seems like a clear downgrade to me.

Was the tie to Sorokin really that important ?

Lehner is younger, too.
Ray Shero  
Jay on the Island : 7/1/2019 7:34 pm : link
said the Devils are getting a lot of requests for center prospect Jesper Boqvist in trade talks. I'm looking forward to seeing him this season.
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KDubbs : 7/1/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14488967 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14488962 arcarsenal said:


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The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?



They threw lehner aside while they tried to get the package of panarin/bob. Then they decided sorokins buddy was more important. Its a terrible look for the franchise considering nobody wants to be here except for Lehner and their own guys. Very frustrated. Im tired of the Trust Lou nonsense from my fellow delusional isles fans


Why would you have any faith in Lou after that dismal season the Islanders had a year ago?


Lets see....1)didnt upgrade the team at the deadline. 2)didnt upgrade the team this offseason so far while everyone else in the division has gotten better. 3)let the goalie who was a HUGE part of the success go. 4)gave Leo Komorov 4yr deal and now a POS gf beater varl a 4yr deal.

I trust the coach, i dont trust the gm that has done nothing since the salary cap came into play
If Trotz and Korn  
Metnut : 7/1/2019 7:35 pm : link
think Lehner is just a product of the system, we have Greiss near identucal save % last year, as well as their prior work, to think they might be right.
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Mike in NY : 7/1/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14488973 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14488962 arcarsenal said:


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The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?



Except Lehner doesnt have ties to Sorokin and has not proven he can start 50-60 games and everyday in postseason.



Lehner was a Vezina finalist last year and only started like 5-6 fewer games than Varlomov did, no?

Seems like a clear downgrade to me.

Was the tie to Sorokin really that important ?

Lehner is younger, too.


Greisss numbers were not that different than Lehners. Varlamov has a better track record than Lehner had prior to last season. For the same money over the next 2 years Id take Varlamov over Lehner. The question is years 3 & 4. Who knows what backups will cost then? Also, we could use him as our exposed goalie in Expansion Draft.
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arcarsenal : 7/1/2019 7:39 pm : link
Fair. Just seems like whatever went down caught at least someone off guard and Lehner wasn't happy about it...

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New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner: "It not working out on Long Island had nothing to do with me."
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Mike in NY : 7/1/2019 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14488983 arcarsenal said:
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Fair. Just seems like whatever went down caught at least someone off guard and Lehner wasn't happy about it...

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New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner: "It not working out on Long Island had nothing to do with me."


He overplayed his hand after seeing what Bob got and like the MLB team that gets stuck having its AAA team in Las Vegas he got stuck with the only game in town that offered him any semblance of playing time on a competitive team
RE: If Trotz and Korn  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/1/2019 7:46 pm : link
In comment 14488978 Metnut said:
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think Lehner is just a product of the system, we have Greiss near identucal save % last year, as well as their prior work, to think they might be right.


No question, but this is all the more reason to scratch your head over Varlamov.
When you have a goalie whisperer, and a system that suppresses high danger chances, you don't pay a 31 y/o domestic abuser 20 million for 4(!!) years.
Also, looking at deals handed out over the year  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/1/2019 7:51 pm : link
Vegas made out like bandits on the Pacioretty contract
after a heated day of dealings, and afterRFA signings last month  
ColHowPepper : 7/1/2019 8:32 pm : link
as a NYR fan, love the apparent talent Gorts has brought in but worried that NJD and others will be physically punishing. Rangers need some muscle up front and along rear guard
RE: after a heated day of dealings, and afterRFA signings last month  
Jay on the Island : 7/1/2019 9:00 pm : link
In comment 14489031 ColHowPepper said:
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as a NYR fan, love the apparent talent Gorts has brought in but worried that NJD and others will be physically punishing. Rangers need some muscle up front and along rear guard

The Devils are not a physically punishing team. Simmonds helps in that area but the Devils are built for speed nowadays. Shero loaded up on big physical defenseman in the draft (Okhotyuk, Misyul, Vukojevic, McCarthy) but all of them are a few years away.

The only defender with size is Severson but he isn't very physical. Subban should help there a bit but I would like to add another big, physical defenseman who excels in his own zone.
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JayBinQueens : 7/1/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14488979 Mike in NY said:
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The Islanders gave Varlomov 4x5.... isn't that the exact contract Lehner wanted?



Except Lehner doesnt have ties to Sorokin and has not proven he can start 50-60 games and everyday in postseason.



Lehner was a Vezina finalist last year and only started like 5-6 fewer games than Varlomov did, no?

Seems like a clear downgrade to me.

Was the tie to Sorokin really that important ?

Lehner is younger, too.



Greisss numbers were not that different than Lehners. Varlamov has a better track record than Lehner had prior to last season. For the same money over the next 2 years Id take Varlamov over Lehner. The question is years 3 & 4. Who knows what backups will cost then? Also, we could use him as our exposed goalie in Expansion Draft.


Also read the isles coaches wanted to trade for Varlamov last year but couldn't get something done.

Kdubs, part of me is skeptical, but I dont think the goalie situation is a big deal. Losing out on panarin was imo.

Next year well have sorokin and Varlamov splitting time
So whats the Rangers depth chart now?  
Rover : 7/1/2019 10:31 pm : link
Wondering if Kreider perhaps gets them center help.
RE: RE: after a heated day of dealings, and afterRFA signings last month  
Stu11 : 7/1/2019 10:40 pm : link
In comment 14489064 Jay on the Island said:
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as a NYR fan, love the apparent talent Gorts has brought in but worried that NJD and others will be physically punishing. Rangers need some muscle up front and along rear guard


The Devils are not a physically punishing team. Simmonds helps in that area but the Devils are built for speed nowadays. Shero loaded up on big physical defenseman in the draft (Okhotyuk, Misyul, Vukojevic, McCarthy) but all of them are a few years away.

The only defender with size is Severson but he isn't very physical. Subban should help there a bit but I would like to add another big, physical defenseman who excels in his own zone.

Jay sounds like the Devs might be in on Gusev from Vegas. They might take your idea of parking Clarkson's 5 mill+ here to lower the return.
RE: RE: RE: after a heated day of dealings, and afterRFA signings last month  
Jay on the Island : 7/1/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14489161 Stu11 said:
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Jay sounds like the Devs might be in on Gusev from Vegas. They might take your idea of parking Clarkson's 5 mill+ here to lower the return.

I just saw that a second ago. That would be a very exciting gamble for the Devils. They could easily afford Clarkson's 1 year 5.25 cap hit which would significantly reduce the return.

I have been pushing for them to make a move like this but I wanted a guy like Tuch, Miller (Gone), or Haula(gone). Gusev would fill in nicely on the second line with Hughes and Bratt.
RE: RE: RE: RE: after a heated day of dealings, and afterRFA signings last month  
Stu11 : 7/1/2019 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14489164 Jay on the Island said:
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Jay sounds like the Devs might be in on Gusev from Vegas. They might take your idea of parking Clarkson's 5 mill+ here to lower the return.


I just saw that a second ago. That would be a very exciting gamble for the Devils. They could easily afford Clarkson's 1 year 5.25 cap hit which would significantly reduce the return.

I have been pushing for them to make a move like this but I wanted a guy like Tuch, Miller (Gone), or Haula(gone). Gusev would fill in nicely on the second line with Hughes and Bratt.

Yep had be an exciting piece to add in his prime. I've been all for using our cap space as a weapon in this type of scenario. Offer sheets to me are a waste of time. The team always matches. Maybe a guy like Laine you could work out a trade after the sheer us signed because Winnipeg can't afford everyone.
I still think CAR matches, but  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2019 8:54 am : link
Aho's agents doesn't think it's a slam dunk.

From the Athletic, so behind a pay wall, and I will only share a blurb.

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...Ahos agent doesnt think the Hurricanes matching the Canadiens offer is a slam dunk to the same extent as everyone else thinks it is.

I dont think it is easy for Carolina, Johannson said. I can tell you for sure, its not easy for Carolina. Anybody who says this is easy is wrong. You can armchair quarterback any decision, but I can promise you this is an aggressive move Its a lot of money, and its a lot of front-loaded money.

Who knows? Carolina is going to do what theyre going to do, but trust me, this is not an easy decision for them.

A disclaimer here on the source. Johannson is not one of those agents who is constantly using the media to pull strings in public. In fact, he makes a concerted effort to avoid the spotlight. This is the context of his comments at this critical moment for his client....

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was thinking of Subban in particular  
ColHowPepper : 7/2/2019 9:15 am : link
K'Andre at least a year away, and I have zero sense as to what his game is like, for all his size. Is he a gentle giant?
RE: was thinking of Subban in particular  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14489308 ColHowPepper said:
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K'Andre at least a year away, and I have zero sense as to what his game is like, for all his size. Is he a gentle giant?


People need to remember he's a converted forward. I don't think he shies away from physical play, but he's not Dustin Byfuglien. Reminds me a little of Zach Werenski with his offensive zone play (very smooth and quick to activate, great vision and shot), but needs to work on defensive side (as expected), he's in the right place to learn IMO. I wouldn't be shocked if he joined the Rangers after the WI season ends.
RE: I still think CAR matches, but  
Mike in NY : 7/2/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14489265 pjcas18 said:
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Aho's agents doesn't think it's a slam dunk.

From the Athletic, so behind a pay wall, and I will only share a blurb.



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...Ahos agent doesnt think the Hurricanes matching the Canadiens offer is a slam dunk to the same extent as everyone else thinks it is.

I dont think it is easy for Carolina, Johannson said. I can tell you for sure, its not easy for Carolina. Anybody who says this is easy is wrong. You can armchair quarterback any decision, but I can promise you this is an aggressive move Its a lot of money, and its a lot of front-loaded money.

Who knows? Carolina is going to do what theyre going to do, but trust me, this is not an easy decision for them.

A disclaimer here on the source. Johannson is not one of those agents who is constantly using the media to pull strings in public. In fact, he makes a concerted effort to avoid the spotlight. This is the context of his comments at this critical moment for his client....

Link - ( New Window )


AAV is a no brainer to match, but owner is a bit of a cheapskate so the front loaded bonus money might be an issue. That being said, if they don't match then teams will do the same to other Carolina RFA's in the future.
RE: RE: was thinking of Subban in particular  
Jay in Toronto : 7/2/2019 10:30 am : link
In comment 14489314 pjcas18 said:
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K'Andre at least a year away, and I have zero sense as to what his game is like, for all his size. Is he a gentle giant?



People need to remember he's a converted forward. I don't think he shies away from physical play, but he's not Dustin Byfuglien. Reminds me a little of Zach Werenski with his offensive zone play (very smooth and quick to activate, great vision and shot), but needs to work on defensive side (as expected), he's in the right place to learn IMO. I wouldn't be shocked if he joined the Rangers after the WI season ends.


And apparently he is still growing. Sheesh

I think his game is (on the D side) positioning (easier with his >avg skating) and stick work, but I imagine he will use the body when necessary.

He wouldn't work with Torts, though -- he has a really long way to go to block shots. :)
that's why I'd really hope they can hang onto Kreider  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 10:36 am : link
He's by far their most physical forward now.
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