The franchise is in a weird place. They have some absolute studs on their roster n McNeil, Alonso and deGrom, all who should be good for quite a while. They also have talented core players such as Conforto, Nimmo (when healthy), Rosario & Diaz (both have underperformed but are young and very talented); there are talented role players such as DomSmith and JD Davis, and then their are the underperforming but still very talented rotation and bullpen pieces in (Matz, Syndergaard, Lugo, Gsellman);
We then have a handful of veterans that we really can't trade---Cano, Cespedes, Lowrie, Familia, Justin Wilson.
So, next year, we really have 18 players who, barring something unprecedented) are likely on the OD roster.
In the near-term, we almost certainly have to sell--Wheeler, Frazier, Wilson Ramos; maybe we can fetch something for Lagares or Hecheverria, even Vargas could get us something.
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If we look to next season, I can't see a complete rebuild, not with the veterans with have on the roster, and not with a lot of the talent in their prime.
I would have to hope we get some ML talent in return for a trading deadline deals.
But the reality is we have to somehow figure out a way to fix our bullpen. We have blown 20 leads this year, if we held even half of them we're talking about a completely different season. We're losing at the end of games when we shouldn't and the talent is just not performing.
The one thing the dodgers/yankees/rays have seemed to figure out how to do is to get their talent to perform to that absolute best. They have gotten tremendous returns on obscure players like Luke Voit, Max Muncey, Gio Urshala, Chris Taylor, DJ Lemehui, Tommy Pham. Heck, the Rays have turned tDA into a good hitting catcher.
While they are maximizing their talent, we're getting underperformance from players who at face value seem like they should be significantly more talented. I can totally see Zack Wheeler going to another team and winning a cy young next year, same with Syndergaard if we traded him. It's beyond just bad luck.
Somehow we need to infuse our front offices, our player development, and coaching with new talent and build our analytic infrastructure to catch up with the rest of baseball, because until we do, we're going to be woefully behind. It seems like a better investment to spend $20 million in analytics, technology, player development than a broken down Robinson Cano or a faltering Jeurys Familia. We can get those performances for pennies of what they're costing us.
Anyway, rant over.
if we were all smarter we'd listen to them.
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the Mets tweeted out an ad to watch a 30/30 on tonight at 8... ya know... the same time the game is on? lol
if we were all smarter we'd listen to them.
Yeah, I don't think that was a joke or a mistake. Sadly.
Accountability.
Smart. Why would anyone want to be there.
Accountability.
Cano sporting a .465 OPS vs LHP.
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Smart. Why would anyone want to be there.
Money is as green with the Mets as it is anywhere. He was a FA without much interest and signed a minor league deal with the Mets.
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7 line are beyond homers. He knew what he was doing.
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with it, he does have some brass balls, but as long as those fans keep showing up, especially idiots chanting his name in praise, nothing will change in Queens.
7 line are beyond homers. He knew what he was doing.
Shouldn't they be the most pissed off?
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7 Line is always the same... They pretend to care about bad performance... They just care about being acknowledged. If Chase Utley wanted to sit with him they would take turns, ordering him beer, giving him a back massages and fanning him."
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7 Line is always the same... They pretend to care about bad performance... They just care about being acknowledged. If Chase Utley wanted to sit with him they would take turns, ordering him beer, giving him a back massages and fanning him."
unrelated to this, I sat next to Chase Utley's wife at Shea one game behind home plate. I couldn't watch the game.
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Mets prospect Brett Baty promoted to next level just five games into pro career http://dlvr.it/R7gyLM
Kelenic moved up soon after being drafted...
I'd like to see the move Francisco Alvarez up too. Maybe a little aggressive, but he's just 17, but if he is the goods and they can get a legit catcher at 20 or 21 and can pencil in that position for the next decade it would be huge.
Obviously a lot of projection, just not sure how much difference there is between GCL and KING
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The numbers does lie:
2017 DRS: -72 (30th in MLB)
2018 DRS: -77 (27th in MLB)
2019 DRS: -65 (29th in MLB)
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The numbers does lie:
2017 DRS: -72 (30th in MLB)
2018 DRS: -77 (27th in MLB)
2019 DRS: -65 (29th in MLB)
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It goes back even further than that. Defense has been a major issue for a decade.
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but somehow seeing it in a tweet makes it worse.
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The numbers does lie:
2017 DRS: -72 (30th in MLB)
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It goes back even further than that. Defense has been a major issue for a decade.
agree, but at least in 2015 and 2016 the Mets made the playoffs. I'll take bad D, if there are other parts of the roster that can accommodate it.
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
Dilson might be a better defender too.
I know this is tin foil hat theory territory and I say it mostly jokingly, but it would be very Mets-like to intentionally sign oft-injured players and insure the contracts knowing they will likely recoup insurance money they never have to reinvest to the payroll.
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
This is a terrible take from an early BVW hater.
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
This is a terrible take from an early BVW hater.
It's not really a take IMO, he said no one could have predicted it.
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
This is a terrible take from an early BVW hater.
It's not really a take IMO, he said no one could have predicted it.
It's pointless. It's a dumb tweet. Davis has been one of the only bright spots even with his bad D.
which is a legit point.
which is a legit point.
Comparing AAA numbers with ML numbers is not legit. Weve seen more than enough AAA hitting stars shit the bed in Flushing to know that.
They caused a fire in 2017 too. Maybe time to hire new fireworks guys.
And its on,y getting better on the lowest of low levels!!! Infusion of talented teenagers is seriously better in the last 13 months than I can ever remember. Especially the past four months. Overflowing.
Sorry for the glass half full, but it needs to be put out there ;)
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the point though, is he was unnecessary.
which is a legit point.
Comparing AAA numbers with ML numbers is not legit. Weve seen more than enough AAA hitting stars shit the bed in Flushing to know that.
I don't think that was the point of the tweet. I'm just assuming here, but I believe the author was suggesting that JD Davis-like production could be obtained from a number of sources that would not have cost the Mets two top 20 prospects.
And its on,y getting better on the lowest of low levels!!! Infusion of talented teenagers is seriously better in the last 13 months than I can ever remember. Especially the past four months. Overflowing.
Sorry for the glass half full, but it needs to be put out there ;)
Who are you specifically enthused about?
Mauricio seems to be separating himself as the star of the system, but the top 3 picks from this draft could join him.
Vientos is heating up, Szapucki, after a scare (to me because his rehab has taken so long) seems to be pitching more regularly and was promoted.
the past two IFA headliners, Valdez and Francisco Alvarez both have promising starts to their pro careers.
I'd love to see the Mets push Alvarez a little, having a young everyday plus catcher would make a huge difference.
SWR is pitching to a league above his age, and has done a lot of good (and some bad).
there are other interesting names at the higher levels, Kay, Villenes, etc.
I check the boxes everyday - the site linked below is great as an aggregator
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
Are you really comparing what Dilson Herrera is doing in AAA to what JD Davis is doing in the majors and saying that it's a legit point?
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
Are you really comparing what Dilson Herrera is doing in AAA to what JD Davis is doing in the majors and saying that it's a legit point?
I didn't write the tweet.
Again, I believe the author of the tweets point is that comparable production to JD Davis could have been obtained from a number of sources and it did not necessarily require trading of two Mets top 20 prospects to obtain.
And I believe it was a completely legitimate point.
Davis' 0.8 fWAR is not worth two top 20 prospects, and he doesn't play a position the Mets need. a 119 wRC+ is good, but not on an NL team when you have no position.
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
Are you really comparing what Dilson Herrera is doing in AAA to what JD Davis is doing in the majors and saying that it's a legit point?
I didn't write the tweet.
Again, I believe the author of the tweets point is that comparable production to JD Davis could have been obtained from a number of sources and it did not necessarily require trading of two Mets top 20 prospects to obtain.
And I believe it was a completely legitimate point.
Davis' 0.8 fWAR is not worth two top 20 prospects, and he doesn't play a position the Mets need. a 119 wRC+ is good, but not on an NL team when you have no position.
Well, there's two different points here. Yes, I agree that we did not have to give up the two prospects.
The author of the tweet didn't say that JD's production could have been obtained by a number of sources. He's said that Dilson could have easily provided the same production. There is no way you can legitimize someone listing Dilson's AAA stats and say that he could have easily replicated what JD has done in the majors. It's an ignorant, lazy comparison.
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Its not like anybody couldve predicted it, but Dilson Herrera (258/.355/.566, 126 wRC+ in AAA) could have very easily replicated what J.D. Davis has done (278/.343/.454, 113 wRC+), and Luis Santana and Ross Adolph would still be in the system. #mets
Are you really comparing what Dilson Herrera is doing in AAA to what JD Davis is doing in the majors and saying that it's a legit point?
I didn't write the tweet.
Again, I believe the author of the tweets point is that comparable production to JD Davis could have been obtained from a number of sources and it did not necessarily require trading of two Mets top 20 prospects to obtain.
And I believe it was a completely legitimate point.
Davis' 0.8 fWAR is not worth two top 20 prospects, and he doesn't play a position the Mets need. a 119 wRC+ is good, but not on an NL team when you have no position.
Well, there's two different points here. Yes, I agree that we did not have to give up the two prospects.
The author of the tweet didn't say that JD's production could have been obtained by a number of sources. He's said that Dilson could have easily provided the same production. There is no way you can legitimize someone listing Dilson's AAA stats and say that he could have easily replicated what JD has done in the majors. It's an ignorant, lazy comparison.
Yes, I agree with your last sentence, but since he began the tweet with "it's not like anyone could have predicted it..."
I believe because of that it's really just exemplary to make the broader point.
just my interpretation of the tweet.