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huygens20 : 7/2/2019 12:29 am
https://sports.yahoo.com/rob-gronkowski-weight-loss-seals-it-hes-retired-204921013.html


Im sure a lot of you guys have seen this. It legit looks like he's lost 35lbs.

Listen, I'm not an athlete, but I do go to the gym and know my way around a squat rack. I can completely understand when OTs/DLs retire they lose wieght because they are no longer stuffing themselves everyday to maintain 300lbs.

But gronk?? too??

Someone tell me that these guys are or are not using (i personally would support them all using) but someone more plugged into this please let enlighten us...

These guys are all using to some extent, but the weight loss  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/2/2019 12:49 am : link
is more about him going all yoga with his workout and probably eating super healthy and less calories.
"Gronko's weight loss _  
short lease : 7/2/2019 3:05 am : link

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"Gronk battles Bolemia ...." - ( New Window )
That is dramatic .....  
short lease : 7/2/2019 3:12 am : link

If I did not know any better I would have thought he could be sick .... what do I know anyway?


But, he did retire so no reason for all the calories and movement of heavy metal. However, that seems like a lot of loss of mass in a quick period of time.



Why would he WANT to lose that much muscle?  
islander1 : 7/2/2019 7:35 am : link
If he was natural. That's what I can't understand.

If it's drug fueled, even so, wow, it looks like he basically starved himself after he retired.
I think you guys are underestimating what it takes to become that big  
Heisenberg : 7/2/2019 7:42 am : link
The linemen especially have to lift and eat and lift and eat to get to that size. Gronk, at 270, was basically in that boat too. When they retire, they often either get fat because the diet stays the same but the lifting stops or they slim down. I mean, look at Snee.

You only have to look at Snee for starters  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/2/2019 7:59 am : link
But personally I was friendly with a college offensive tackle you had a cup of coffee with the Redskins. When I saw him two years later he was at least 50 pounds lighter.

The amount of calories these guys ingest at the "training table" starting in college and going through the pros is massive. Are many likely also getting some other help? True, but just the change in sodium and lifting regimes can count for lots of pounds after football.
It is..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2019 8:17 am : link
a combination of both going off the juice and reducing the caloric intake.

That's why it is cringe-worthy when some of these guys are looked up as examples of disciplined weight loss. The bloating and water retention that happens in many linemen is the first to go. Then juts eating normal meals along with still working out completes the transformation.

It is still estimated that nearly every lineman (with the possible exception of some long snappers) are using PED's.
I thought he was coming  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2019 8:22 am : link
back out of retirement for the playoffs. At least that's the presumption up here in New England.

He'll need to get back on a cycle or something, he can't play at that weight.
RE: I thought he was coming  
djstat : 7/2/2019 8:47 am : link
In comment 14489240 pjcas18 said:
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back out of retirement for the playoffs. At least that's the presumption up here in New England.

He'll need to get back on a cycle or something, he can't play at that weight.
That is a fans pipe dream. He is done.
What did Gronk weigh as a player?  
Section331 : 7/2/2019 8:50 am : link
250? That is a lot of weight for anyone to carry around. He probably feels that if he isn't going to play, he should get his weight down to a healthy level. It certainly blows up the hopes of some Pats fans that he would come back.
RE: Why would he WANT to lose that much muscle?  
WideRight : 7/2/2019 8:52 am : link
In comment 14489227 islander1 said:
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If he was natural. That's what I can't understand.

If it's drug fueled, even so, wow, it looks like he basically starved himself after he retired.


If it was natural???

LOL
RE: What did Gronk weigh as a player?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/2/2019 9:05 am : link
In comment 14489256 Section331 said:
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250? That is a lot of weight for anyone to carry around. He probably feels that if he isn't going to play, he should get his weight down to a healthy level. It certainly blows up the hopes of some Pats fans that he would come back.


His "official" bio from when he was a player says 265.

Dont forget that he's 6'6. It's a huge frame to begin with.

But yes, football players arent natural.
Lineman eat crazy amounts of food  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/2/2019 9:09 am : link
to maintain their weight. Like 6 to 8 whole meals a day. I'm talking about what normal people eat for a big dinner.

So yes, when they no longer have to force food down their throats to maintain weight they loose a ton of weight fast.

People through out steroids all the time, but its simple caloric intake.
It isn't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2019 9:15 am : link
just simple caloric intake.

The weight reduction from just the fluid retention alone is usually 20-30 lbs.

This isn't a one or the other discussion. Both issues are at play - and both contribute significantly to the body transformation.
Without direct knowledge of Gronk’s  
LauderdaleMatty : 7/2/2019 9:21 am : link
“Supplement” intake Fatman is pretty spot on. Between the HGH and Test he was most likely not on any more he’s down 10-15. If he’s backed off lifting and eating like a horse too easy to see how a 6’6” guy will slim down

The issue for players who can’t lose is tied up also in genetics and diet. W all injuries he’s had he better keep the weight off.
Charles Mann of the old Redskins got TINY when he retired.  
TheManUpstairs : 7/2/2019 9:50 am : link
I mean, he was still big for a normal person, but he lost a bucket of weight fast. He used to eat like a monster to keep weight on as a player, and he just stopped eating like that.
For argument's sake, let's say he was all natural  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/2/2019 9:52 am : link
he was 6'6 265 with a bad back and bad knees. He looked like the body from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles that carried around Krang.

For his long term structural health, it is likely better for him to drop weight off of his frame. Now that he is retired, he doesn't need all that extra muscle. I wouldn't be surprised if doctors told him that he should drop weight for health reasons.

35 pounds in 4 months means that he cut about 1000-1100 calories per day from his playing weight. That's not significant. Many people going for healthy weight loss cut 500 calories per day to run a pound/week deficit. It's also likely that Gronk consumed an excessive amount of calories during his playing days to keep on extra weight.

It's completely plausible that he was consuming over 4000 calories per day during his time in the league and that now he's eating 3000 calories per day.

If he's still working out, then it's not surprising to see that level of weight loss.
RE: RE: Why would he WANT to lose that much muscle?  
wonderback : 7/2/2019 10:14 am : link
In comment 14489263 WideRight said:
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In comment 14489227 islander1 said:


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If he was natural. That's what I can't understand.

If it's drug fueled, even so, wow, it looks like he basically starved himself after he retired.



If it was natural???

LOL


Why can't others see something that's so obvious. Is it possible - yes. Is it likely - NOOOOO!!!!
RE: What did Gronk weigh as a player?  
Mr. Nickels : 7/2/2019 10:18 am : link
In comment 14489256 Section331 said:
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250? That is a lot of weight for anyone to carry around. He probably feels that if he isn't going to play, he should get his weight down to a healthy level. It certainly blows up the hopes of some Pats fans that he would come back.


How is 250 a lot of weight?
Looks like he is planning for the next stage of his career...  
Matt G : 7/2/2019 10:21 am : link
I would guess in front of the camera... Good for him... He has a fun personality and will likely be pretty good at it
250 really isn't a lot at 6'6 and his body fat level. He was actually  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/2/2019 10:24 am : link
perfectly healthy. However with all his injuries he recently completely switched over to yoga and is probably looking to get back a lot of his mobility before he starts lifting again.
I think Snee said  
lugnut : 7/2/2019 10:27 am : link
he would eat a gallon of ice cream at night for no other reason than to add/maintain weight. Not exactly good fat. Except for those badly injured, I would expect OL/DL health to improve markedly AFTER they stop playing and leave the NFL.
why is it obvious and why is it unikely?  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/2/2019 10:27 am : link
Gronk will go down as perhaps the best ever at his position, hampered only by injuries, particularly to his back. He's also known for not spending any of his contracts to set himself up financially for after retirement. Factoring all that, it paints a picture of a guy who is hard-working, committed, and focused on his goals, particularly in the long-term quality of life.

I suppose it could be related to supplements and PEDs as one would say about any former NFL player. But Gronk also seems like the exact kind of person who, if he thought it would improve his quality of life, would be successful in purposefully dropping unnecessary bulk soon after retirement.
There's a bit of a contradiction..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2019 10:39 am : link
in being focused on the long-term health and taking PED's.

Most of these players cycle off immediately to minimize the impact of long-term use (some keep using, especially if they use their bodies to make $$$ in retirement), but they almost all know the risks they took in the first place.

It is a tradeoff all athletes consider.
why are people talking about OL  
fkap : 7/2/2019 11:09 am : link
and weight/calorie consumption? Isn't TE a whole different beast, where empty calories/weight is not a good thing?

Muscle/PED use, sure, but not every position wants a spare tire around the waist. I'm sure there's still some unhealthy habits/eating, but the story of Snee is going to be vastly different.
Are there still people that believe...  
Johnny5 : 7/2/2019 11:31 am : link
... that there are mostly "natural" football players and that not one of these guys is doing cycles? There may be some natural guys, but yeah not very many.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2019 11:49 am : link
what was always funny to me is that you really couldn't exclude any player from not possibly using:

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Are there still people that believe...
Johnny5 : 11:31 am : link : reply
... that there are mostly "natural" football players and that not one of these guys is doing cycles? There may be some natural guys, but yeah not very many.


Not too many years ago, there was speculation that over half of the punters were on PED's and some PK's!! According to the trainers, the cleanest players were likely the longsnappers, many who stay relatively lean even though their frames could take on much more if needed.
RE: Are there still people that believe...  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/2/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14489535 Johnny5 said:
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... that there are mostly "natural" football players and that not one of these guys is doing cycles? There may be some natural guys, but yeah not very many.


I'm not saying that he wasn't on PEDs/HGH/etc. as a matter of fact. I imagine a lot of players take a lot of things an I bet they are most helpful in recovery from their brutal injuries.

I'm just saying that it's possible that an athlete with his build could bulk up to his playing weight naturally and that athlete could also slim down quickly and naturally due to the massive caloric deficit between the bulking and cutting.
The whole fact that people think these guys are clean just shows you  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/2/2019 11:55 am : link
how ignorant people are of steroids in football for years. I always thought the 70's Steelers should have a big asterisk around their championships as they were clearly one of the first teams that went wholesale into the juice biz.

These guys are ALLOWED to test for levels of testosterone that are pretty much a beginner cycle.
Players..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2019 11:58 am : link
haven't primarily used steroids/PED's to bulk up weight-wise in a really long time.

They take them now for specific effects. Building muscle quickly. Enhancing their ability to be powerful, as well as quick. A lot of skill position players have an insane body fat ratio that is maintained with the help of PED's.

There's usually an argument brought up that PED's can't be that widespread if you never hear it talked about, but the NFL puts a significant amount of effort to keep that from happening.

There are literally teams where every position player is taking PED's, and while we might not like to hear it, the Giants % is quite high.
Paul - Fatman is correct that some of it is water weight  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/2/2019 11:58 am : link
Probably more like 10 lbs, but the real thing that affects their weight isn't the PED's necessarily. You don't take PEDs and weight appears out of no where. However the athlete's hunger levels skyrocket to support their body's desire to put on muscle. This is where the real health problems come in, people eat like shit on juice because they can get away with more on their diet initially.

RE: Players..  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/2/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14489575 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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haven't primarily used steroids/PED's to bulk up weight-wise in a really long time.

They take them now for specific effects. Building muscle quickly. Enhancing their ability to be powerful, as well as quick. A lot of skill position players have an insane body fat ratio that is maintained with the help of PED's.

There's usually an argument brought up that PED's can't be that widespread if you never hear it talked about, but the NFL puts a significant amount of effort to keep that from happening.

There are literally teams where every position player is taking PED's, and while we might not like to hear it, the Giants % is quite high.


Exactly. Who knows even what they are taking with all the SARMS anymore, but for your average skill position player a little test and anavar would give highly desirable results. Sprinters were on that program for years. I'm pretty sure Anavar also helps in repairing injuries.
And you are..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2019 12:06 pm : link
right about the allowable levels.

The NFL touts their drug testing, but the amount of testosterone you can have in your body vs. the normal person is insane.

And it isn't just testing for T.
RE: I think you guys are underestimating what it takes to become that big  
short lease : 7/2/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14489228 Heisenberg said:
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The linemen especially have to lift and eat and lift and eat to get to that size. Gronk, at 270, was basically in that boat too. When they retire, they often either get fat because the diet stays the same but the lifting stops or they slim down. I mean, look at Snee.



That is Snee !!???... not in a million years would I be able to identify him from that picture. Wow
Now the Al Roker weight loss makes sense.  
short lease : 7/2/2019 5:55 pm : link

He is not just a weather man anymore. He is more like a co-host. Retired as a weather man ..... Hence the weight loss.
Joe Thomas has spoken a lot about this  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/2/2019 6:34 pm : link
And the story behind what a lineman has to do on a daily basis to keep their playing weight is grotesque and might turn your stomach.
Just as an FYI  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2019 4:01 pm : link
if you believe Gronk it seems like this is mostly blown out of proportion.

Gronk says he's "down to" 250. From 260.

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“I’m actually down to 250 right now,” Gronkowski said on the Rich Eisen Show on Wednesday, via NFL.com. “It must’ve been the angle or the shirt that was on me. I ain’t that skinny that the picture going around [shows]. I have definitely lost some weight. I’ve been 260 since I was 18 years old, from 260 to like 270. I just always wanted to see what it feels like to get down, to feel light, to feel loose.”


Oh, and about that "fan theory":

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady already has campaigned for Gronkowski’s return at some point during the season. Gronkowski doesn’t plan on that happening.

“Thank you; I love you; I miss you,” Gronkowski said, laughing. “But I’m just relaxing, Tommy. . . .Call me when you get to the playoffs.”


I wouldn't bet my mortgage on it, but I think there's a good chance we see Gronk in a uniform again, whether or not the "BBI Know-it-All's" want to chalk it up as a fan theory or not.
Link - ( New Window )
I'm not so sure there's a need for being snarky  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/3/2019 4:12 pm : link
You can't just give up football for a year and then step in in january. Who has ever done that?

It's more than a little unrealistic.
RE: I'm not so sure there's a need for being snarky  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14490903 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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You can't just give up football for a year and then step in in january. Who has ever done that?

It's more than a little unrealistic.


the poster was snarky in the first place, uncalled for, so that's why I responded that way - people who respond like something is fact when they're talking out of their ass deserve to be called out.

Marshawn Lynch (1+ season)
Randy Moss (1 year)
Ricky Williams (1 year)
Deion Sanders (3 years)
Reggie White (1 year)

and more....

All came back out of retirement with varying levels of success.
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