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NFT: Yankees sign Jasson Dominguez

Big Rick in FL : 7/2/2019 11:38 am
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@JesseSanchezMLB: Source: #Yankees agree to a deal in $5 million range with outfielder Jasson Dominguez, #1 on @MLBPipeline’s Top 30 Int’l Prospects list. https://atmlb.com/2XMDnoy


Figured a lot of Yankees fans would be excited about this move. I've seen people say he's the next Mike Trout. Also seen him compared to Mickey Mantle.
Hell yeah  
Nine-Tails : 7/2/2019 11:41 am : link
The hype for a 16 yr old is unreal
Bo Jackson...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2019 11:42 am : link
that's my comp and I'm sticking to it.
As boom or bust of a prospect  
Shecky : 7/2/2019 11:43 am : link
As I ever recall.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 11:46 am : link
The player comps for him are insane. If he's even half as good as some of the names we've heard, I'll be happy.
RE: As boom or bust of a prospect  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14489555 Shecky said:
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As I ever recall.


How's that? A guy with 70-grade speed has a lot of intermediate outcomes.
i hope he isnt the next Kevin Maas  
GMAN4LIFE : 7/2/2019 11:56 am : link
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RE: As boom or bust of a prospect  
CromartiesKid21 : 7/2/2019 11:56 am : link
In comment 14489555 Shecky said:
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As I ever recall.


I don't think your using the context of "boom or bust" properly at all.
I'm excited too  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 12:04 pm : link
But it's a long road from age 16 to MLB. I can remember back when the Yankees signed the teenaged Jackson Melian and he was supposed to be the second coming of Mickey Mantle. Didn't work out that way.
Next Mike Trout or Mickey Mantle  
bluepepper : 7/2/2019 12:14 pm : link
I'm good with either.
RE: As boom or bust of a prospect  
Jay in Toronto : 7/2/2019 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14489555 Shecky said:
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As I ever recall.


As I said on the futures thread, if the comp is Mickey Mantle, I hope he's not Ross Moschitto!
Boom or bust...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2019 12:19 pm : link
is usually reserved for players with only a couple of tools.

From almost all accounts, this kid is one of the most highly regarded to come out of the DR in some time.
RE: i hope he isnt the next Kevin Maas  
rnargi : 7/2/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14489572 GMAN4LIFE said:
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Hey I liked Kevin Maas....for 4 whole months...
I like it  
Beer Man : 7/2/2019 12:21 pm : link
Keep stocking the farm with good young talent
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Kyle in NY : 7/2/2019 12:23 pm : link
By all accounts, he's much more physically developed than you usual see with the top internationals at 16. Different body type, shorter and more muscular, than the top guys that are often tall and lanky with more projection required as we wait to see how they fill out.

Now that could work against him, as maybe his growth is limited. But it sounds like there's a bit less projection with Dominguez. Doesn't mean the Trout comp is spot on. But take it for what it's worth.
RE: As boom or bust of a prospect  
M.S. : 7/2/2019 12:24 pm : link
In comment 14489555 Shecky said:
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As I ever recall.

Have you got that right? I think the phrase is sorta "all or nothing." The possibility exists that Jasson Dominguez does NOT live up to all the hype but still performs quite well at the Major League level!

Also,  
Beer Man : 7/2/2019 12:24 pm : link
Luke Voit to the 10-day IL. I guess the injury curse is still alive and well.
It sounds like a good signing. You can never be even close to  
Ira : 7/2/2019 12:27 pm : link
certain with a 16 year old, but sometimes you have to take a chance based on what you do know.
RE: I'm excited too  
Kyle in NY : 7/2/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14489586 Greg from LI said:
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But it's a long road from age 16 to MLB. I can remember back when the Yankees signed the teenaged Jackson Melian and he was supposed to be the second coming of Mickey Mantle. Didn't work out that way.


Posted this yesterday from ESPN. Specifically mentions Melian

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This is not like the days of Jackson Melian, a hyped Yankees prospect from Venezuela who never made the major leagues. The conviction is stronger, the signings seen less as gambles and more as investments. It's what invites the comparisons -- that they're not based on physique or some other intangible alone.

"Jasson has a game that's very much like Mike Trout -- except he's a switch-hitter," said Ivan Noboa, Dominguez's trainer in the Dominican Republic. "It's a hard name for me to say, because it's really high expectations for a 16-year-old. But what Jasson is we all know. I know it's a little bit unfair to put them next to each other. It's a heavy weight to carry. But if someone can do it, it's him."


Who knows how it plays out. A few recent international big spendings for us haven't worked out. It's always a risk, but 5 million is a drop in the bucket for the potential reward.
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RE: Hell yeah  
Carson53 : 7/2/2019 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14489550 Nine-Tails said:
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The hype for a 16 yr old is unreal
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It always is. Mickey Mantle, Mike Trout, whoa nellie.
RE: Also,  
Carson53 : 7/2/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14489616 Beer Man said:
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Luke Voit to the 10-day IL. I guess the injury curse is still alive and well.
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Indeed it is.
I had to check just to make sure. Naboa didn’t train any of the top  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/2/2019 1:06 pm : link
kids the Yanks signed in 2014.

Franco is similarly built and is a flat out stud. There is no telling if Dominguez’s hit tool is equal, but we haven’t had someone this highly regarded since....Jesus Montero.....gulp. Hope he pans out.
Heard on Bro and Evan, not sure if true  
mfsd : 7/2/2019 1:11 pm : link
His father named him after Jason Giambi?

In the past, I always assumed some of these top Latin players were really 2-3 years older than their stated age (Pujols has accidentally admitted he’s really 2 years older a couple times), but I don’t know if that’s still possible.
RE: Heard on Bro and Evan, not sure if true  
Strahan91 : 7/2/2019 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14489663 mfsd said:
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His father named him after Jason Giambi?

In the past, I always assumed some of these top Latin players were really 2-3 years older than their stated age (Pujols has accidentally admitted he’s really 2 years older a couple times), but I don’t know if that’s still possible.

Passan wrote this in his piece yesterday:

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Before Dominguez was born in February 2003, his father, Felix Dominguez, and his mother, Dorca Gonzalez, were trying to settle on a name. His dad had the perfect one: Jasson, like Jason Giambi. Yes, Felix Dominguez, an enormous Yankees fan, really did name his son after Jason Giambi, and, yes, that second "s" really is superfluous and it's pronounced like Jason.

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RE: Also,  
Del Shofner : 7/2/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14489616 Beer Man said:
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Luke Voit to the 10-day IL. I guess the injury curse is still alive and well.


Crap. Any word on what they say he has wrong with him?
RE: RE: Also,  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/2/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14489669 Del Shofner said:
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Luke Voit to the 10-day IL. I guess the injury curse is still alive and well.



Crap. Any word on what they say he has wrong with him?


Abdominal strain.
^^^^  
Del Shofner : 7/2/2019 1:22 pm : link
Abdominal strain per ESPN.

"In related moves, infielder Mike Ford and left-hander Nestor Cortes Jr. were recalled from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, while right-hander Chance Adams was optioned to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre."
RE: RE: RE: Also,  
Del Shofner : 7/2/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14489673 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 14489669 Del Shofner said:


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Luke Voit to the 10-day IL. I guess the injury curse is still alive and well.



Crap. Any word on what they say he has wrong with him?



Abdominal strain.


Thanks.
well, they wanted to take advantage of the upcoming ASB  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 1:35 pm : link
I guess. He'll only miss five games that way
RE: well, they wanted to take advantage of the upcoming ASB  
Del Shofner : 7/2/2019 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14489688 Greg from LI said:
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I guess. He'll only miss five games that way


No HR Derby for Luke ... I'm not sad about that.
Fangraphs already has  
slickwilly : 7/2/2019 1:49 pm : link
Dominguez as their 61st rated prospect and highest rated Yankee prospect.
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John Sterling to the IL  
Ron from Ninerland : 7/2/2019 2:59 pm : link
He will miss his first game since 1989.
RE: RE: well, they wanted to take advantage of the upcoming ASB  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/2/2019 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14489691 Del Shofner said:
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I guess. He'll only miss five games that way



No HR Derby for Luke ... I'm not sad about that.


Great point. At least his swing won't get screwed up while he's out.
back to Dominguez -  
Del Shofner : 7/2/2019 4:37 pm : link
per ESPN, "Dominguez will not be eligible to play games until next season" - is that because he is still too young?
Yes  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 4:38 pm : link
Gotta be 17 to begin playing organizational ball
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 4:41 pm : link
Sending out the JINTS signal.....

crazy thing about Dominguez is...  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 4:47 pm : link
...if everything the scouts think about him is true, he could be on the team in three years.
Boom...  
manh george : 7/2/2019 4:50 pm : link
or boomlet.
He could absolutely bust...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2019 5:51 pm : link
some of these kids take "stay hungry" way too literally, especially when they go from abject poverty to being multi-millionaires. The list of busts is long and storied. But depending on who you ask (and there are doubters - Law, for instance, thinks he has elite talent but not "generational" talent) he has some of the best now tools anyone has seen in the memory of 7/2.
As I'm sure you know  
Stan in LA : 7/2/2019 6:11 pm : link
Law is in the minority.
RE: As I'm sure you know  
rich in DC : 7/2/2019 6:17 pm : link
In comment 14490138 Stan in LA said:
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Law is in the minority.


Law is also the guy who insisted to everyone that Severino was a reliever and that Rosario was going to be better than Torres. He may always state his opinions with conviction- but remember that the track record is not clean.
Law admits he does not scout international players....  
Tesla : 7/2/2019 6:19 pm : link
so his opinion is based on others opinions....and is pretty meaningless here. I say this as a pretty big fan of Law in general. Also not that Law does not have any formal training as a scout.
Law doesn't scout IFA  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2019 8:30 am : link
Unlike some of the national pub guys he does actually have FO experience, and his take is usually based less on Youtube than on chatter from other scouts and FO guys he does talk to. Doesn't mean he's right, but anonymous scout gushing and anonymous scout dialing down the hyperbole carry roughly the same weight.
Law is worth reading  
Greg from LI : 7/3/2019 9:10 am : link
But his biggest Achilles heel is that he refuses to re-evaluate when his analysis is off. He just digs in harder.
RE: Yes  
Beer Man : 7/3/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14489989 Greg from LI said:
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Gotta be 17 to begin playing organizational ball
Right, give a 16-year old $5M+ and trust he is going to behave for a year before showing up. I don't know anything about how mature this kid is, but at 16 had someone handed me that much cheddar and given that much time, I would have been in big trouble.
He's not gonna show up next year. I'm sure he'll be in Tampa training  
yatqb : 7/3/2019 3:32 pm : link
this season.
He'll be in Instructs this fall...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2019 3:52 pm : link
and in Tampa probably in January or February of next year, it's not the crisis you think it is.
I remember when Kevin Maitan  
Jay on the Island : 7/3/2019 4:31 pm : link
was the best IFA prospect since Miguel Sano and Miguel Cabrera. He was a mix between Cabrera and Chipper Jones and extremely advanced for his age.

There is still time obviously but as a 19 year old in Low A Maitan is batting .208/.268/.299 with a 30% K rate.
Maitan's body was always a little suspect...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2019 4:37 pm : link
in Vlad's case it remains suspect but it didn't hamper his offensive development. But yeah, Maitan was extremely hyped.
RE: Maitan's body was always a little suspect...  
Jay on the Island : 7/3/2019 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14490945 Dunedin81 said:
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in Vlad's case it remains suspect but it didn't hamper his offensive development. But yeah, Maitan was extremely hyped.

His weight problem was considered baby weight but he was expected to have to move to 3B because he was outgrowing SS. His bat was supposed to be very advanced. He has been downright awful so far.

The funny thing about the elite prospects is...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2019 4:51 pm : link
they have to get locked up so early that even the signing teams don't get a ton of looks at them. So you're offering a 14 year old a couple million dollars and expecting him to weather adolescent changes to his body and physical abilities and still emerge an elite prospect on the other side. It is not uncommon for a 15 year old to post below average run times and then above average or even better as an 18 year old; but just as skills can pop up they can also diminish too.
I know I can't wait  
RasputinPrime : 7/3/2019 6:17 pm : link
for 2027 when he he gets his first callup!
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