job. Guts to issue the 2nd yellow and then the red. She took no crap. Guts to reverse the non-call and give the PK. (VAR also)
England played great.
Thought the US was a little selfish and should have had 2 goals had Press made a pass to one of two open players and thought Lloyd could have made a pass when she came from the GK's right.
The survived. Think England was the highest rated team left.
got a big chuckle, after Naeher made the save on the PS
play is live, it continues, she with the ball in her arms, bear hugs from at least two teammates, I was waiting for a deliberate handling in the PA and another PS (just kidding, sort of, but you don't see that!)
That was a wrong call that led to England's penalty kick...
where it was clear there was no contact. You could see a space between the defender and the leg.
In the angle from directly behind the play it was 100% clear that there was contact with White's leg as she wound up to shoot, which was why she miffed so badly. It was a correct call.
I never played soccer, but it seemed to me that they were quite skilled in developing quick counter attacks. Their two goal were beauties. Glad there was the offsides on the last one.
where it was clear there was no contact. You could see a space between the defender and the leg.
In the angle from directly behind the play it was 100% clear that there was contact with White's leg as she wound up to shoot, which was why she miffed so badly. It was a correct call.
No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
agree...when the harsh glare of white heat is squarely on you, it takes guts to call what you've seen and to acknowledge what you haven't, and defy the temptation to give in to 'superior force' of players and/or crowd and personalities who believe differently...
cmon.. it's a judgement call by the ref. I didn't see contact but you can infer contact by the change of position of her leg. It was bad defense, anyway. And when you have someone falling to the ground on the ball and a kick with possible contact from behind.... you've seen that call before..
No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
C'mon, really? It took a lot of angles, but some of this stuff is pretty clear.
There was contact Sauerbraun caught the right leg(trail leg) of White and tripped her. It was very clear on the video from behind.
Penalties are supposed to be clear and obvious though...if it takes that long to find a scrape of a boot on a leg (which isn't even readily apparent) it's not a penalty. It wasn't the kind of contact that could take a player down either, which also has to be taken into account. Poor application of VAR
did you see the replay from directly behind the play? I agree the other replays made it look like not contact, but that replay 1000000% showed contact on the backswing.
wrong, her right leg was 'tripped' from behind; the contact was inadvertent, but it doesn't matter, it was there in White's natural running motion, Sauerbrun's knee clipped the calf
yellow is called for because PS awarded (negates red)
You can't decide a World Cup on something that nebulous
I get the offside rule in that it's concrete and they have to stick with the interpretation that any part of the body that can legally score a goal has to be onside...
But on penalties, it better be a clear and obvious penalty and that wasn't one, it was a judgment call
wrong, her right leg was 'tripped' from behind; the contact was inadvertent, but it doesn't matter, it was there in White's natural running motion, Sauerbrun's knee clipped the calf
yellow is called for because PS awarded (negates red)
If it's inadvertent (legs clipping each other) it's not a penalty. There has to be intent to take a player down
No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
C'mon, really? It took a lot of angles, but some of this stuff is pretty clear.
There was contact Sauerbraun caught the right leg(trail leg) of White and tripped her. It was very clear on the video from behind.
Penalties are supposed to be clear and obvious though...if it takes that long to find a scrape of a boot on a leg (which isn't even readily apparent) it's not a penalty. It wasn't the kind of contact that could take a player down either, which also has to be taken into account. Poor application of VAR
It was a clear trip. It wasn't incidental contact, nor was intentional. But the right leg was without question interfered with causing White to miss the kick and fall. The ref missed the original, but VAR saw it.
I get the offside rule in that it's concrete and they have to stick with the interpretation that any part of the body that can legally score a goal has to be onside...
But on penalties, it better be a clear and obvious penalty and that wasn't one, it was a judgment call
if it's a scrape it is a penalty.. that's the point.. you're interfering with a clear scoring chance. She looked it over and decided it was a pen.
Stop digging yourself in deeper. Inadvertent fouls are called all game long, every game. It is intentional and/or reckless fouls that warrant cards--that's why they are issued.
In this case yellow was issued for a DOGSO, it would have been a red, but since PS awarded, it's a yellow (rule changed couple of years ago)
RE: I'm looking at this from a premier league view
No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
C'mon, really? It took a lot of angles, but some of this stuff is pretty clear.
There was contact Sauerbraun caught the right leg(trail leg) of White and tripped her. It was very clear on the video from behind.
Penalties are supposed to be clear and obvious though...if it takes that long to find a scrape of a boot on a leg (which isn't even readily apparent) it's not a penalty. It wasn't the kind of contact that could take a player down either, which also has to be taken into account. Poor application of VAR
It was a clear trip. It wasn't incidental contact, nor was intentional. But the right leg was without question interfered with causing White to miss the kick and fall. The ref missed the original, but VAR saw it.
Stop digging yourself in deeper. Inadvertent fouls are called all game long, every game. It is intentional and/or reckless fouls that warrant cards--that's why they are issued.
In this case yellow was issued for a DOGSO, it would have been a red, but since PS awarded, it's a yellow (rule changed couple of years ago)
I'm just saying if you apply the laws of the game like that to the premier league, guys like Salah, Sterling etc. are way better than the women's strikers and will go down at the first moment they're clipped in the box, and the game will turn into a farce
Stop digging yourself in deeper. Inadvertent fouls are called all game long, every game. It is intentional and/or reckless fouls that warrant cards--that's why they are issued.
In this case yellow was issued for a DOGSO, it would have been a red, but since PS awarded, it's a yellow (rule changed couple of years ago)
I'm just saying if you apply the laws of the game like that to the premier league, guys like Salah, Sterling etc. are way better than the women's strikers and will go down at the first moment they're clipped in the box, and the game will turn into a farce
Please stop. It was a foul. If that was Morgan or Press you would have wanted it.
RE: RE: RE: Now you are importing 'intent' into fouls in football?????
Stop digging yourself in deeper. Inadvertent fouls are called all game long, every game. It is intentional and/or reckless fouls that warrant cards--that's why they are issued.
In this case yellow was issued for a DOGSO, it would have been a red, but since PS awarded, it's a yellow (rule changed couple of years ago)
I'm just saying if you apply the laws of the game like that to the premier league, guys like Salah, Sterling etc. are way better than the women's strikers and will go down at the first moment they're clipped in the box, and the game will turn into a farce
Please stop. It was a foul. If that was Morgan or Press you would have wanted it.
No I would have been like, that's a dive
Is the final to be played at 11am local time in France?
England is already a very good team
Agreed. Despite her flop, White is a world class player.
onto the WC Final!
England played great.
Thought the US was a little selfish and should have had 2 goals had Press made a pass to one of two open players and thought Lloyd could have made a pass when she came from the GK's right.
The survived. Think England was the highest rated team left.
...late in second half!
I don't think the attacker was ever touched by the American. She swung and missed and her own momentum toppled her.
Bad call IMO... could have cost us the game!
In the angle from directly behind the play it was 100% clear that there was contact with White's leg as she wound up to shoot, which was why she miffed so badly. It was a correct call.
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where it was clear there was no contact. You could see a space between the defender and the leg.
In the angle from directly behind the play it was 100% clear that there was contact with White's leg as she wound up to shoot, which was why she miffed so badly. It was a correct call.
No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
C'mon, really? It took a lot of angles, but some of this stuff is pretty clear.
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No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
C'mon, really? It took a lot of angles, but some of this stuff is pretty clear.
There was contact Sauerbraun caught the right leg(trail leg) of White and tripped her. It was very clear on the video from behind.
cmon.. it's a judgement call by the ref. I didn't see contact but you can infer contact by the change of position of her leg. It was bad defense, anyway. And when you have someone falling to the ground on the ball and a kick with possible contact from behind.... you've seen that call before..
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No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
C'mon, really? It took a lot of angles, but some of this stuff is pretty clear.
There was contact Sauerbraun caught the right leg(trail leg) of White and tripped her. It was very clear on the video from behind.
Penalties are supposed to be clear and obvious though...if it takes that long to find a scrape of a boot on a leg (which isn't even readily apparent) it's not a penalty. It wasn't the kind of contact that could take a player down either, which also has to be taken into account. Poor application of VAR
yellow is called for because PS awarded (negates red)
But on penalties, it better be a clear and obvious penalty and that wasn't one, it was a judgment call
yellow is called for because PS awarded (negates red)
If it's inadvertent (legs clipping each other) it's not a penalty. There has to be intent to take a player down
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No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
C'mon, really? It took a lot of angles, but some of this stuff is pretty clear.
There was contact Sauerbraun caught the right leg(trail leg) of White and tripped her. It was very clear on the video from behind.
Penalties are supposed to be clear and obvious though...if it takes that long to find a scrape of a boot on a leg (which isn't even readily apparent) it's not a penalty. It wasn't the kind of contact that could take a player down either, which also has to be taken into account. Poor application of VAR
It was a clear trip. It wasn't incidental contact, nor was intentional. But the right leg was without question interfered with causing White to miss the kick and fall. The ref missed the original, but VAR saw it.
Never mind that it *was* clear on review, and even the way Sauerbrun went down, there was contact
But on penalties, it better be a clear and obvious penalty and that wasn't one, it was a judgment call
if it's a scrape it is a penalty.. that's the point.. you're interfering with a clear scoring chance. She looked it over and decided it was a pen.
Never mind that it *was* clear on review, and even the way Sauerbrun went down, there was contact
bingo.. quite right. it is the ref's judgement. nothing more. clear and obvious is not the standard.
I don't know England's personnel, but why do you have a defender taking the penalty and not their star forward?
In this case yellow was issued for a DOGSO, it would have been a red, but since PS awarded, it's a yellow (rule changed couple of years ago)
penalties will certainly go up if you apply var to such calls.
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No way, it was either a dive or a complete whiff by White. There's no angle that shows contact
C'mon, really? It took a lot of angles, but some of this stuff is pretty clear.
There was contact Sauerbraun caught the right leg(trail leg) of White and tripped her. It was very clear on the video from behind.
Penalties are supposed to be clear and obvious though...if it takes that long to find a scrape of a boot on a leg (which isn't even readily apparent) it's not a penalty. It wasn't the kind of contact that could take a player down either, which also has to be taken into account. Poor application of VAR
It was a clear trip. It wasn't incidental contact, nor was intentional. But the right leg was without question interfered with causing White to miss the kick and fall. The ref missed the original, but VAR saw it.
She missed the ball prior to the contact
I don't know England's personnel, but why do you have a defender taking the penalty and not their star forward?
Wondered about that myself. If Houghton got it because she is captain I would say thank you very much.
And I do not care who might be best in practice. White has to be looser already having put two in the net on the night.
In this case yellow was issued for a DOGSO, it would have been a red, but since PS awarded, it's a yellow (rule changed couple of years ago)
I'm just saying if you apply the laws of the game like that to the premier league, guys like Salah, Sterling etc. are way better than the women's strikers and will go down at the first moment they're clipped in the box, and the game will turn into a farce
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Stop digging yourself in deeper. Inadvertent fouls are called all game long, every game. It is intentional and/or reckless fouls that warrant cards--that's why they are issued.
In this case yellow was issued for a DOGSO, it would have been a red, but since PS awarded, it's a yellow (rule changed couple of years ago)
I'm just saying if you apply the laws of the game like that to the premier league, guys like Salah, Sterling etc. are way better than the women's strikers and will go down at the first moment they're clipped in the box, and the game will turn into a farce
Please stop. It was a foul. If that was Morgan or Press you would have wanted it.
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Stop digging yourself in deeper. Inadvertent fouls are called all game long, every game. It is intentional and/or reckless fouls that warrant cards--that's why they are issued.
In this case yellow was issued for a DOGSO, it would have been a red, but since PS awarded, it's a yellow (rule changed couple of years ago)
I'm just saying if you apply the laws of the game like that to the premier league, guys like Salah, Sterling etc. are way better than the women's strikers and will go down at the first moment they're clipped in the box, and the game will turn into a farce
Please stop. It was a foul. If that was Morgan or Press you would have wanted it.
No I would have been like, that's a dive
Why?