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WORST Giant's Play Call in a Big Game

BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/2/2019 2:54 pm
Piggy backing off of yesterday's thread, what is the biggest play call mistake by a Giant's head coach ever?
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The fumble?  
Mattman : 7/2/2019 2:56 pm : link
It would have to be.

Other in recent memory was punting to desean but I don't think that was the coaches intent
Mine -  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/2/2019 2:56 pm : link
Trying to throw on the Raven's defense in the Super Bowl. Kerry Collins was scared shitless, and you could see it on his face.
does Geno Smith count?  
Rocky369 : 7/2/2019 2:57 pm : link
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Joe Pisarcik  
Big Blue '56 : 7/2/2019 2:57 pm : link
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Before our time...  
x meadowlander : 7/2/2019 2:58 pm : link
...back when the Giants were losing Championship Games in droves - I'm sure there's an epic fail among the lot back there.
RE: does Geno Smith count?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/2/2019 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14489806 Rocky369 said:
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No, and he didn't play terribly.
Non playoff games of course  
Chris684 : 7/2/2019 2:59 pm : link
but walk down memory lane to the 2015 regular season and you'll find a bunch at the end of about 5 or 6 of those games.

Very odd considering I believe Coughlin to be an excellent head coach, but I had never seen anything like the consistent mind-numbing decisions as that season.
RE: Non playoff games of course  
NoPeanutz : 7/2/2019 3:13 pm : link
In comment 14489816 Chris684 said:
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but walk down memory lane to the 2015 regular season and you'll find a bunch at the end of about 5 or 6 of those games.

Very odd considering I believe Coughlin to be an excellent head coach, but I had never seen anything like the consistent mind-numbing decisions as that season.


3rd and Long? Shotgun draw.
Fumble, miracle at  
NYG007 : 7/2/2019 3:36 pm : link
the meadowlands

Punting to Desean Jackson at the end
Punting to Brian Mitchell at the end (later a Giant)

Dave Brown throwing a pick six on the sideline vs the Cardinals with :10 left in the half

Coughlin managing almost every single final 2 minutes of a 1st half.

Eli not taking a sack = loss to Dallas by passing on 3rd down (clear Pass Interference)

I have 500 others I am sure we can all think of. However, none burn me worse than Fassel demanding we run the ball up 23 vs SF in a playoff game. There is a clip of Strahan screaming at Fassel to get out of prevent on D as well in that game.
Has anyone mentioned Coughlin’s decision to have Feely...  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/2/2019 4:58 pm : link
...attempt a long-shot field goal against the Bears?
This was really dumb. - ( New Window )
really, it has to be the fumble  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 5:05 pm : link
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Taking the ball  
LIbud : 7/2/2019 5:08 pm : link
to start SB 35. Game planning again that defense was terrible, bothers me to this day. Why they didn't elect to kick, and play field position the whole game is beyond me.
The fumble stands alone but I'm not sure that  
arniefez : 7/2/2019 5:09 pm : link
was a "big game". The Giants were having a decent season for them in that era but they weren't a contending team.

I'll go with Tom Flynn covering Al Toon and the Giants not playing a deep zone earlier in the 88 year vs the 49ers. Simms throwing at the end of the 1st half in the Rams playoff game in 89. 88 and 89 were wasted seasons for different reasons.
1989 Rams playoff game  
bluepepper : 7/2/2019 5:10 pm : link
30 seconds left first half. Giants at their own 35 - pass play. Simms throws a pick. Rams score a short-field TD and after dominating the first half we go into the locker room down 7-6.
RE: Taking the ball  
Matt M. : 7/2/2019 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14490060 LIbud said:
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to start SB 35. Game planning again that defense was terrible, bothers me to this day. Why they didn't elect to kick, and play field position the whole game is beyond me.
Not just taking the ball, but then planning to throw deep and do nothing else.
RE: 1989 Rams playoff game  
BillT : 7/2/2019 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14490063 bluepepper said:
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30 seconds left first half. Giants at their own 35 - pass play. Simms throws a pick. Rams score a short-field TD and after dominating the first half we go into the locker room down 7-6.

This. And the worst thing about it was Parcells could have kneeled on it.
Shovel pass to Ike  
flycatcher : 7/2/2019 5:46 pm : link
Dishonorable mention
There was some game..:  
OBJ_AllDay : 7/2/2019 5:56 pm : link
I remember watching as a kid where the giants must have needed 70 yards for td before halftime with practically no time on the clock. Instead of kneeling Fassel inexplicably decided to try some pass play for like 3 yards outside the hashes that was pick 6’d. I remember being furious....
SB against the Ravens  
David B. : 7/2/2019 6:46 pm : link
The BS holding call.
Punting the ball to Westbrook in 2003.  
St. Jimmy : 7/2/2019 6:53 pm : link
Both teams were 2-3 in a weak division. Giants up 10-7. Fassel punts from the Eagles 45 yard line. The rest is history.
OBJ  
Sneakers O'toole : 7/2/2019 6:53 pm : link
I think that was against the Cardinals. I thought of that play too. Total head scratcher.
2015  
joeinpa : 7/2/2019 6:59 pm : link
Coughlin allowing Eli to throw an incompletion at the end off the game against the Cowboys to open the season, when a run would have effectively ended the game, was a pretty boneheaded call.
RE: The fumble stands alone but I'm not sure that  
jnoble : 7/2/2019 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14490061 arniefez said:
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was a "big game". The Giants were having a decent season for them in that era but they weren't a contending team.

I'll go with Tom Flynn covering Al Toon and the Giants not playing a deep zone earlier in the 88 year vs the 49ers. Simms throwing at the end of the 1st half in the Rams playoff game in 89. 88 and 89 were wasted seasons for different reasons.


Giants had the talent to win more SB's in 87, 88, 89. 87 was wrecked by the strike but 88 & 89 were wasted opportunities with LT and Simms and Bavaro etc still in their prime
RE: Before our time...  
Ivan15 : 7/2/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14489809 x meadowlander said:
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...back when the Giants were losing Championship Games in droves - I'm sure there's an epic fail among the lot back there.


When were the Giants losing Championship games in droves? If you mean 1961-1963, I don’t remember any bad HC calls. Only bad performances.
What about attempting a long field goal in OT at GB after the kicker  
Ivan15 : 7/2/2019 9:05 pm : link
Had just missed one?

Oh wait! We won that game!
RE: 2015  
shyster : 7/2/2019 10:11 pm : link
In comment 14490171 joeinpa said:
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Coughlin allowing Eli to throw an incompletion at the end off the game against the Cowboys to open the season, when a run would have effectively ended the game, was a pretty boneheaded call.


That play went off at 1:43 remaining. Dallas had used last TO so the clock would have run and they would have started their last drive with a about a minute left instead of a minute and a half.

By no means would the game have been over. And Eli could have gone to the ground instead of throwing the ball away. FG would have been a chip shot anyway.

I won't even get into Eli telling Jennings not to score TD on previous running play.

My nominee for bad coach's call with season-deciding consequences would be having Justin Tuck in pass coverage 20 yards down the field on the Vick-to-Celek TD pass that triggered the Eagles avalanche in 2010.

I guess Fewell takes direct blame but responsibility runs back to the HC. Seemed like Giants might have been showing off up 21 points and thinking the game won.

That game doesn't actually bother me much in the big picture because if Giants had won it everything after would have been different and who knows if they win the SB the next year.
Ben mcadoo  
djm : 7/2/2019 11:09 pm : link
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Not really a big game  
montanagiant : 7/2/2019 11:16 pm : link
But Fassels call for a pass into the flat just before halftime vs Zona that got intercepted and returned for a TD
RE: There was some game..:  
montanagiant : 7/2/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14490126 OBJ_AllDay said:
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I remember watching as a kid where the giants must have needed 70 yards for td before halftime with practically no time on the clock. Instead of kneeling Fassel inexplicably decided to try some pass play for like 3 yards outside the hashes that was pick 6’d. I remember being furious....

That's the Zona game I mentioned above.
Idiotic call.
Letting Sehorn return kicks  
Steve L : 7/2/2019 11:18 pm : link
Stupid
RE: Joe Pisarcik  
Blue21 : 7/3/2019 7:46 am : link
In comment 14489807 Big Blue '56 said:
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This for sure. No contest.
Playoff game against the Rams after 1989 season.  
concrodgiantsfan : 7/3/2019 8:59 am : link
Giants absolutely dominated the Rams in the first half but were only up 6-0. They got the ball deep in the territory with about 45 seconds left in the half, and I felt they should have just run out the clock. Instead they tried to pass and after a tipped ball/interception returned close to the goal line, the Rams scored a touchdown.
Totally changed that game.
That's the worst in game decision I can remember Parcells making.
Not recognizing situation and telling Eli/Bradshaw  
Jimmy Googs : 7/3/2019 9:13 am : link
to not score at end of SuperBowl in Feb 2012.

A mistake that would have been looked upon as a huge blunder had Pats scored...
RE: The fumble?  
Gman11 : 7/3/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14489803 Mattman said:
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It would have to be.


That was probably the stupidest call ever, but was it a big game? I don't remember what the Giants record was at the time, but I doubt if it was a game that had playoff implications.
Every inside draw  
TurdFurguson : 7/3/2019 9:36 am : link
It surprises no one.
RE: What about attempting a long field goal in OT at GB after the kicker  
NoPeanutz : 7/3/2019 12:38 pm : link
In comment 14490249 Ivan15 said:
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Had just missed one?

Oh wait! We won that game!

The way Tynes tells it, it wasn't the coaches call. He just ran out there!
RE: Non playoff games of course  
mrvax : 7/3/2019 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14489816 Chris684 said:
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but walk down memory lane to the 2015 regular season and you'll find a bunch at the end of about 5 or 6 of those games.

Very odd considering I believe Coughlin to be an excellent head coach, but I had never seen anything like the consistent mind-numbing decisions as that season.


I have to agree and believe that was why John Mara made the move. TC's head coaching days were behind him.

THE FUMBLE  
x meadowlander : 7/3/2019 1:27 pm : link
The Giants were 5-6, about to go to 6-6 so yes - the Fumble had playoff implications. Of course, had they somehow miraculously MADE the playoffs, they were going NOWHERE.

Personally, I look on the Fumble as one of the GREATEST play calls in Giant history because NOBODY wanted to go after that, and with tickets suddenly easy to come by, the first Giant Game I attended was the very next home game, against the Rams.



RE: 1989 Rams playoff game  
81_Great_Dane : 7/3/2019 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14490063 bluepepper said:
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30 seconds left first half. Giants at their own 35 - pass play. Simms throws a pick. Rams score a short-field TD and after dominating the first half we go into the locker room down 7-6.
Yeah, this is the first one that came to mind for me.
RE: Not recognizing situation and telling Eli/Bradshaw  
Leg of Theismann : 7/3/2019 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14490472 Jimmy Googs said:
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to not score at end of SuperBowl in Feb 2012.

A mistake that would have been looked upon as a huge blunder had Pats scored...


Of course you would pick a play from a game in which we actually won a Lombardi Trophy ;)

Say the Giants run the clock down in that situation (i.e. don't score) and the snap on the FG kick gets botched (see: SF 2003 Wild Card game). Then telling Eli/Bradshaw NOT to score woudl have been "looked up on as a huge blunder".

It's over. Giants beat Brady/BB pats twice on the biggest stage. The worst call in Giants history does not come from either of those games. Period.
The Hail Mary TD  
SirLoinOfBeef : 7/3/2019 4:25 pm : link
Against the packers during the playoffs a couple years ago. Right at halftime. Killer.
RE: Mine -  
MookGiants : 7/3/2019 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14489804 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Trying to throw on the Raven's defense in the Super Bowl. Kerry Collins was scared shitless, and you could see it on his face.


Ummm, you do realize that defense may have been the greatest defense ever against the run, right? The Giants only chance was to throw, even if that was basically a .1% chance, no one was ever running the ball on that defense.
RE: Mine -  
GeofromNJ : 7/3/2019 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14489804 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Trying to throw on the Raven's defense in the Super Bowl. Kerry Collins was scared shitless, and you could see it on his face.

A few days after that game, Carl Banks said that if Fassel had left Garrett in the game after he temporarily took over for Collins, the Giants would have won the game. I agree. Collins repeatedly missed open receivers by throwing too soon.
RE: RE: What about attempting a long field goal in OT at GB after the kicker  
Leg of Theismann : 7/3/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14490723 NoPeanutz said:
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Had just missed one?

Oh wait! We won that game!


The way Tynes tells it, it wasn't the coaches call. He just ran out there!


Coughlin said the same thing! Said he wasn't quite sure what he was going to do but the decision was made for him when he saw Tynes already running out there :)
RE: Not recognizing situation and telling Eli/Bradshaw  
Leg of Theismann : 7/3/2019 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14490472 Jimmy Googs said:
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to not score at end of SuperBowl in Feb 2012.

A mistake that would have been looked upon as a huge blunder had Pats scored...


And if you're gonna pick that one, then why not (as another poster said) sending Tynes in to kick a 47 yarder in OT after he missed TWO FGs of shorter distance in the 4th quarter (and no FG that long had ever been made at Lambeau in postseason history). What a horrible call that was, right?
RE: RE: Mine -  
jnoble : 7/3/2019 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14490986 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 14489804 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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Trying to throw on the Raven's defense in the Super Bowl. Kerry Collins was scared shitless, and you could see it on his face.


A few days after that game, Carl Banks said that if Fassel had left Garrett in the game after he temporarily took over for Collins, the Giants would have won the game. I agree. Collins repeatedly missed open receivers by throwing too soon.


Collins was not only playing scared but he was playing hurt too. Didn't know that until after the game was long over. But Carl really thinks Jason Garrett wouldve stepped in and threw all over that defense up and down the field? Was he high when he said that?
Nobody was beating the Ravens that year. Period.
RE: RE: Not recognizing situation and telling Eli/Bradshaw  
Jimmy Googs : 7/3/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14490811 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14490472 Jimmy Googs said:


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to not score at end of SuperBowl in Feb 2012.

A mistake that would have been looked upon as a huge blunder had Pats scored...



Of course you would pick a play from a game in which we actually won a Lombardi Trophy ;)

Say the Giants run the clock down in that situation (i.e. don't score) and the snap on the FG kick gets botched (see: SF 2003 Wild Card game). Then telling Eli/Bradshaw NOT to score woudl have been "looked up on as a huge blunder".

It's over. Giants beat Brady/BB pats twice on the biggest stage. The worst call in Giants history does not come from either of those games. Period.


You are blinded by short-sightedness. No worries as the SB trophy was huge except it has nothing to do with the question...
RE: RE: Not recognizing situation and telling Eli/Bradshaw  
Jimmy Googs : 7/3/2019 10:40 pm : link
In comment 14491053 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14490472 Jimmy Googs said:


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to not score at end of SuperBowl in Feb 2012.

A mistake that would have been looked upon as a huge blunder had Pats scored...



And if you're gonna pick that one, then why not (as another poster said) sending Tynes in to kick a 47 yarder in OT after he missed TWO FGs of shorter distance in the 4th quarter (and no FG that long had ever been made at Lambeau in postseason history). What a horrible call that was, right?


Ok, is that you’re viewpoint?

You seem to be less than self-assured...
RE: RE: Not recognizing situation and telling Eli/Bradshaw  
dep026 : 7/3/2019 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14491053 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14490472 Jimmy Googs said:


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to not score at end of SuperBowl in Feb 2012.

A mistake that would have been looked upon as a huge blunder had Pats scored...



And if you're gonna pick that one, then why not (as another poster said) sending Tynes in to kick a 47 yarder in OT after he missed TWO FGs of shorter distance in the 4th quarter (and no FG that long had ever been made at Lambeau in postseason history). What a horrible call that was, right?


Hey under 25 yard field goals are gimmees.

Just ask Blair Walsh and Tony Romo. Guarantee scores, right?
You mean FG attempts aren’t 100% certain?  
Jimmy Googs : 7/3/2019 11:16 pm : link
chucklehead to the end...
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