Id be amazed if they were not still quite jet lagged.
Some of them at least. Just from observation over time amongst business travelers Some folks get more jetlagged going west than east and some vice versa.
Id be amazed if they were not still quite jet lagged.
Some of them at least. Just from observation over time amongst business travelers Some folks get more jetlagged going west than east and some vice versa.
I thought we might see Tauchman, Romine, etc. tonight. Maybe tomorrow.
They've all been bad this year so far but things have to start evening out eventually right? Can Mickey please use Avilan as a LOOGY this time and not have him coming in for full and even multiple innings? wtf!
Need Pax to get back on track. He's struggled pretty badly since June. His fastball isn't hitting its spots so his curveball isn't working for him.
Key for him is a quick first inning - that's where so many of the issues have been happening. If he can get through 1 without any damage, I think he'll get into a rhythm and start to get into a zone.
The problem with the Mets is they don't have depth.
There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.
The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.
McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.
Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.
But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.
The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.
The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.
They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.
Huge K for Paxton... I would have maybe just walked Alonso there. That was a key AB. One swing could have put the Mets on top.
Pax has been pretty good tonight. This ump has a really, really tight strike zone so he's really not getting any help. Encouraging to see him pitch well not only on the road where he's really had a hard time, but also against a lineup that really kind of pounded him last time.
The problem with the Mets is they don't have depth.
There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.
The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.
McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.
Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.
But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.
The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.
The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.
They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.
Hard to disagree. Think they should sell us deGrom for players?
I think if the Mets were going to deal deGrom, last year was when it was going to happen. At this point, I think they're probably going to try and build around him as a cornerstone TOR pitcher.
It's really not a terrible idea as it's the one guy that they'd be able to get a really nice haul for, but I think they'll look to move Wheeler first and foremost instead - they're not even willing to pay him.
Not sure there's value in even dangling Syndergaard right now - they wouldn't get proper return.
They can recoup some assets via trade, but it's just difficult to build a winning team when there just isn't a real commitment to winning at the top. They're hamstrung by ownership. Any GM that comes in there needs to be extremely asset-savvy and has very little margin for error.
Simply signing Kimbrel rather than going in this roundabout way of acquiring Diaz at the cost of your top hitting prospect and saddling yourself with an aging Cano would have made a heck of a lot more sense - but when you have cheap, frugal owners who are always trying to save a buck - you wind up with something like that instead.
The problem with the Mets is they don't have depth.
There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.
The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.
McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.
Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.
But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.
The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.
The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.
They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.
I love you Arc and Im sure this post makes you feel extra proud of switching teams. This is your "I was right" moment. Good for you! But most of this isnt really accurate. You've sprinkled in a bunch of old narratives and summed it all up in a neat little bow but being this is a Mets/Yankees thread Im going to disagree probably to nobody's surprise.
The Wilpons suck for getting in bed with Madoff as well as many other bad mistakes over the years on top of it and it seems like they made another knee jerk reaction hiring BVW and Mickey before him. I agree there.
Also the bullpen is a disaster this year which is why we are where we are. It looked pretty good on paper heading in. But facts are facts, it has completely sucked and we have more than 20 blown saves now, by far the most in the majors...
This isnt a rebuild roster though and depth and spending money are not issues that need to be addressed. We are at the luxury tax so spending is no longer an excuse. At least not right now. Also the farm is not bad at all, more like top 10-12 and Sandy keeps getting proven right for almost every high pick he ever took. Conforto, Nimmo, Dominic, McNeil, Alonso, Davis is more than "just a couple of good players" Rosario also keeps showing signs but he's very inconsistent. Our rotation is still excellent even with a few guys underperforming. I get really tired of hearing about depth in the rotation. Who is signing proven starting pitching and stashing it in AAA? It's ludicrous. As for the vets we went after? It is what it is... We sprinkled in Cano, Lowrie, and Ramos. All three played at an extremely high level and two were all stars last season. None have been great and Lowrie has been out all year. The Yankees go after washed up DJ LeMahieu who nobody wanted and it turns to gold. Last year he crushed the Mets for signing Bruce, Frazier, Swarzak, and Vargas. All have been good this year... For whatever reason it just hasn't come together. So Mets right?
The pen has been an abomination and this last week might have sunk our season, but the future is still bright with this nucleus. We need to figure out Wheeler or his replacement and re-tool the pen. That's about it.
Just goes to show how insanely talented they both are for Gleyber to have played most of the year at SS, and Didi missing all those months. They didn't have a spring working together this year but you'd never know it the way they turn the DP.
Z, all due respect but I haven't seen a single person claim the Mets have a top 10-12 farm system right now. It's simply not good. They're nowhere near top 10. They're likely not even top 20.
How you can keep saying that spending isn't an issue is crazy to me... but we never agreed on that before and probably aren't going to now.
DJ LeMahieu was never "washed up"
If you want to talk about ludicrous bullshit, that's the biggest BS statement in this entire thread. The guy was just a batting champ like 2 years prior to NYY singing him.
J. McNeil, RF
P. Alonso, 1B
J. Davis, LF
T. Frazier, 3B
R. Cano, 2B
W. Ramos, C
M. Conforto, CF
A. Rosario, SS
Z. Wheeler, P
Some of them at least. Just from observation over time amongst business travelers Some folks get more jetlagged going west than east and some vice versa.
Some of them at least. Just from observation over time amongst business travelers Some folks get more jetlagged going west than east and some vice versa.
I thought we might see Tauchman, Romine, etc. tonight. Maybe tomorrow.
Key for him is a quick first inning - that's where so many of the issues have been happening. If he can get through 1 without any damage, I think he'll get into a rhythm and start to get into a zone.
I'm still surprised he didn't get rung up.
I'm still surprised he didn't get rung up.
I like it and it's about damn time an ump adjusted his normal strike zone for Judge's height.
Here's hoping others take notice and do the same.
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That ball 3 call to Judge might be the first time I've ever seen an umpire correctly call that pitch a ball low with him in the batters box.
I'm still surprised he didn't get rung up.
I like it and it's about damn time an ump adjusted his normal strike zone for Judge's height.
Here's hoping others take notice and do the same.
Right? Would be just a little bit overdue...
Gleyby comes through. 1-0, Yanks. Runners on the corners. Still no out.
What a fucking play.
Next time he'll get blown away with FBs.
There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.
The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.
McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.
Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.
But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.
The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.
The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.
They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.
Pax has been pretty good tonight. This ump has a really, really tight strike zone so he's really not getting any help. Encouraging to see him pitch well not only on the road where he's really had a hard time, but also against a lineup that really kind of pounded him last time.
Next time he'll get blown away with FBs.
There you go....looked for the FB and got it.
There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.
The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.
McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.
Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.
But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.
The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.
The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.
They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.
Hard to disagree. Think they should sell us deGrom for players?
It's really not a terrible idea as it's the one guy that they'd be able to get a really nice haul for, but I think they'll look to move Wheeler first and foremost instead - they're not even willing to pay him.
Not sure there's value in even dangling Syndergaard right now - they wouldn't get proper return.
They can recoup some assets via trade, but it's just difficult to build a winning team when there just isn't a real commitment to winning at the top. They're hamstrung by ownership. Any GM that comes in there needs to be extremely asset-savvy and has very little margin for error.
Simply signing Kimbrel rather than going in this roundabout way of acquiring Diaz at the cost of your top hitting prospect and saddling yourself with an aging Cano would have made a heck of a lot more sense - but when you have cheap, frugal owners who are always trying to save a buck - you wind up with something like that instead.
Hopefully Pax can keep the 1 run lead in tact through 6 - if we can get into a bullpen game, we should be alright.
Davis goes oppo and gets the HR.
There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.
The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.
McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.
Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.
But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.
The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.
The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.
They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.
I love you Arc and Im sure this post makes you feel extra proud of switching teams. This is your "I was right" moment. Good for you! But most of this isnt really accurate. You've sprinkled in a bunch of old narratives and summed it all up in a neat little bow but being this is a Mets/Yankees thread Im going to disagree probably to nobody's surprise.
The Wilpons suck for getting in bed with Madoff as well as many other bad mistakes over the years on top of it and it seems like they made another knee jerk reaction hiring BVW and Mickey before him. I agree there.
Also the bullpen is a disaster this year which is why we are where we are. It looked pretty good on paper heading in. But facts are facts, it has completely sucked and we have more than 20 blown saves now, by far the most in the majors...
This isnt a rebuild roster though and depth and spending money are not issues that need to be addressed. We are at the luxury tax so spending is no longer an excuse. At least not right now. Also the farm is not bad at all, more like top 10-12 and Sandy keeps getting proven right for almost every high pick he ever took. Conforto, Nimmo, Dominic, McNeil, Alonso, Davis is more than "just a couple of good players" Rosario also keeps showing signs but he's very inconsistent. Our rotation is still excellent even with a few guys underperforming. I get really tired of hearing about depth in the rotation. Who is signing proven starting pitching and stashing it in AAA? It's ludicrous. As for the vets we went after? It is what it is... We sprinkled in Cano, Lowrie, and Ramos. All three played at an extremely high level and two were all stars last season. None have been great and Lowrie has been out all year. The Yankees go after washed up DJ LeMahieu who nobody wanted and it turns to gold. Last year he crushed the Mets for signing Bruce, Frazier, Swarzak, and Vargas. All have been good this year... For whatever reason it just hasn't come together. So Mets right?
The pen has been an abomination and this last week might have sunk our season, but the future is still bright with this nucleus. We need to figure out Wheeler or his replacement and re-tool the pen. That's about it.
Those two guys are a sweet double play combo.
Just goes to show how insanely talented they both are for Gleyber to have played most of the year at SS, and Didi missing all those months. They didn't have a spring working together this year but you'd never know it the way they turn the DP.
How you can keep saying that spending isn't an issue is crazy to me... but we never agreed on that before and probably aren't going to now.
DJ LeMahieu was never "washed up"
If you want to talk about ludicrous bullshit, that's the biggest BS statement in this entire thread. The guy was just a batting champ like 2 years prior to NYY singing him.
Washed up.. LOL.
Cmon. What a crock of shit.