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section125 : 7/2/2019 6:21 pm



Cannot find the Mets lineup.
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Cannot find the nice  
section125 : 7/2/2019 6:26 pm : link
version, but here is what I was able to fine. Hope it is correct.

J. McNeil, RF
P. Alonso, 1B
J. Davis, LF
T. Frazier, 3B
R. Cano, 2B
W. Ramos, C
M. Conforto, CF
A. Rosario, SS
Z. Wheeler, P
That is some line up  
Bill2 : 7/2/2019 6:27 pm : link
Id be amazed if they were not still quite jet lagged.

Some of them at least. Just from observation over time amongst business travelers Some folks get more jetlagged going west than east and some vice versa.
RE: That is some line up  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/2/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14490151 Bill2 said:
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Id be amazed if they were not still quite jet lagged.

Some of them at least. Just from observation over time amongst business travelers Some folks get more jetlagged going west than east and some vice versa.


I thought we might see Tauchman, Romine, etc. tonight. Maybe tomorrow.
Im glad we got some fresh arms for this series  
ZGiants98 : 7/2/2019 6:35 pm : link
They've all been bad this year so far but things have to start evening out eventually right? Can Mickey please use Avilan as a LOOGY this time and not have him coming in for full and even multiple innings? wtf!
Paxton VS Wheeler is interesting...  
ZGiants98 : 7/2/2019 6:36 pm : link
Two similar pitchers IMO talent wise and each team tattooed the other in their prior matchup.
Let's continue what we did in London to the Sox  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/2/2019 6:37 pm : link
and pile on the runs, please. This offense is insane.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 6:56 pm : link
Need Pax to get back on track. He's struggled pretty badly since June. His fastball isn't hitting its spots so his curveball isn't working for him.

Key for him is a quick first inning - that's where so many of the issues have been happening. If he can get through 1 without any damage, I think he'll get into a rhythm and start to get into a zone.
I'm glad  
GruningsOnTheHill : 7/2/2019 7:00 pm : link
they aren't facing Vargas tonight as was listed a few days ago; he really shut them down last time.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 7:16 pm : link
That ball 3 call to Judge might be the first time I've ever seen an umpire correctly call that pitch a ball low with him in the batters box.

I'm still surprised he didn't get rung up.
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Eman11 : 7/2/2019 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14490179 arcarsenal said:
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That ball 3 call to Judge might be the first time I've ever seen an umpire correctly call that pitch a ball low with him in the batters box.

I'm still surprised he didn't get rung up.


I like it and it's about damn time an ump adjusted his normal strike zone for Judge's height.

Here's hoping others take notice and do the same.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14490195 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14490179 arcarsenal said:


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That ball 3 call to Judge might be the first time I've ever seen an umpire correctly call that pitch a ball low with him in the batters box.

I'm still surprised he didn't get rung up.



I like it and it's about damn time an ump adjusted his normal strike zone for Judge's height.

Here's hoping others take notice and do the same.


Right? Would be just a little bit overdue...

Gleyby comes through. 1-0, Yanks. Runners on the corners. Still no out.
Paxton, great bunt  
section125 : 7/2/2019 7:47 pm : link
and Encarnacion with smart base running steals a run. 2-0
Edwin with very good baserunning  
dpinzow : 7/2/2019 7:48 pm : link
but if the catcher fields the ball the pitcher has to go straight to home plate to prevent that possible baserunning play
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 7:50 pm : link
Wheeler is already @ 50 pitches after 2 innings.
Yankees desperately trying to get to Wheeler early  
Vanzetti : 7/2/2019 7:54 pm : link
Cuz they know if the game goes to the Mets revamped bullpen, it’s lights out, game over, no chance of scoring again.
Went from an ump on  
section125 : 7/2/2019 7:58 pm : link
Sunday that called anything close (or far) for a strike to a guy that won't call strikes even when they are..
That is a fucking ridiculous play  
bigbluehoya : 7/2/2019 7:58 pm : link
Wow
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 7:58 pm : link
Wow, Gleyber.

What a fucking play.
Gleyber is so smooth  
PetesHereNow : 7/2/2019 7:59 pm : link
I literally yelled “just get one” lol.
Gleyber with a great play  
dune69 : 7/2/2019 7:59 pm : link
he's having fun
Total histrionics from Torres  
Vanzetti : 7/2/2019 8:00 pm : link
Cano makes that play easily
You think Hicks might  
section125 : 7/2/2019 8:04 pm : link
look for a changeup?
Next time he'll get blown away with FBs.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 8:06 pm : link
Couple of crappy AB's for Hicks. Just doesn't seem to be seeing the ball that well still.
The Mets have enough talent to win  
Deejboy : 7/2/2019 8:42 pm : link
They are just a weird mix of players. Brodie doesn't quite understand how to fit in pieces
Think Bill's right - they're playing like they're jet lagged  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 8:49 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 8:54 pm : link
The problem with the Mets is they don't have depth.

There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.

The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.

McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.

Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.

But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.

The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.

The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.

They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 8:56 pm : link
Huge K for Paxton... I would have maybe just walked Alonso there. That was a key AB. One swing could have put the Mets on top.

Pax has been pretty good tonight. This ump has a really, really tight strike zone so he's really not getting any help. Encouraging to see him pitch well not only on the road where he's really had a hard time, but also against a lineup that really kind of pounded him last time.
RE: You think Hicks might  
section125 : 7/2/2019 8:59 pm : link
In comment 14490212 section125 said:
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look for a changeup?
Next time he'll get blown away with FBs.


There you go....looked for the FB and got it.
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Percy : 7/2/2019 9:00 pm : link
In comment 14490237 arcarsenal said:
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The problem with the Mets is they don't have depth.

There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.

The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.

McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.

Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.

But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.

The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.

The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.

They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.

Hard to disagree. Think they should sell us deGrom for players?
A bunch of missed opportunities  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 9:05 pm : link
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And now a homer to this hump  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2019 9:08 pm : link
Cmon
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 9:08 pm : link
I think if the Mets were going to deal deGrom, last year was when it was going to happen. At this point, I think they're probably going to try and build around him as a cornerstone TOR pitcher.

It's really not a terrible idea as it's the one guy that they'd be able to get a really nice haul for, but I think they'll look to move Wheeler first and foremost instead - they're not even willing to pay him.

Not sure there's value in even dangling Syndergaard right now - they wouldn't get proper return.

They can recoup some assets via trade, but it's just difficult to build a winning team when there just isn't a real commitment to winning at the top. They're hamstrung by ownership. Any GM that comes in there needs to be extremely asset-savvy and has very little margin for error.

Simply signing Kimbrel rather than going in this roundabout way of acquiring Diaz at the cost of your top hitting prospect and saddling yourself with an aging Cano would have made a heck of a lot more sense - but when you have cheap, frugal owners who are always trying to save a buck - you wind up with something like that instead.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 9:09 pm : link
Bah. Yanks haven't been able to cash in with men on base.

Hopefully Pax can keep the 1 run lead in tact through 6 - if we can get into a bullpen game, we should be alright.
Yankees crush two balls  
section125 : 7/2/2019 9:10 pm : link
get nothing...
Davis goes oppo and gets the HR.
Noticed Paxton never gets a swing  
section125 : 7/2/2019 9:13 pm : link
on that inside fastball. Must have thrown a dozen, and not one swing.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 9:14 pm : link
Jeez. Zero calls. How is that not a strike?
Ramos  
MookGiants : 7/2/2019 9:14 pm : link
didn't for even a second think that was a ball yet the jerkoff umpire calls it a ball. Amazing. Incompetent fuck
Paxton Has Had Enough  
Percy : 7/2/2019 9:15 pm : link
Take him out now.
Everybody but this jackass  
section125 : 7/2/2019 9:15 pm : link
umpire knew that was a strike. Even Ramos...Truly embarrassing.
RE: .  
ZGiants98 : 7/2/2019 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14490237 arcarsenal said:
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The problem with the Mets is they don't have depth.

There's no pitching depth when a starter goes down, there's barely anyone in the bullpen who can get outs on a regular basis.

The bench is weak, and the farm system isn't good either.

McNeil is a really good hitter and Alonso looks like he's got superstar potential. That guy is for real. I still think Conforto has the ability to become a terrific hitter.. Dom Smith finally looks like he's come into his own.. but Rosario has been a major disappointment. Cano has flat sucked.

Seems like Frazier has picked up and JD Davis seems like it was a pretty good move.

But.. the Mets should really be selling at the deadline and should be trying to find ways to add younger talent.

The Cano trade looks horrible in retrospect.

The major black cloud is always going to be ownership. Until those guys are out of there, this is just going to be what the Mets are. A couple of competitive seasons per decade when things really align, and most of the rest will be like this.. where the season is already close to over in early July.

They really just aren't committed to winning. They're content as long as they're in the green at seasons' end each year. So, this is what you get.. a few good players who can be good pieces of a good baseball team - but a front office that is unwilling to spend the money and make the moves necessary to really compete or build a sustainable winner.


I love you Arc and Im sure this post makes you feel extra proud of switching teams. This is your "I was right" moment. Good for you! But most of this isnt really accurate. You've sprinkled in a bunch of old narratives and summed it all up in a neat little bow but being this is a Mets/Yankees thread Im going to disagree probably to nobody's surprise.

The Wilpons suck for getting in bed with Madoff as well as many other bad mistakes over the years on top of it and it seems like they made another knee jerk reaction hiring BVW and Mickey before him. I agree there.

Also the bullpen is a disaster this year which is why we are where we are. It looked pretty good on paper heading in. But facts are facts, it has completely sucked and we have more than 20 blown saves now, by far the most in the majors...

This isnt a rebuild roster though and depth and spending money are not issues that need to be addressed. We are at the luxury tax so spending is no longer an excuse. At least not right now. Also the farm is not bad at all, more like top 10-12 and Sandy keeps getting proven right for almost every high pick he ever took. Conforto, Nimmo, Dominic, McNeil, Alonso, Davis is more than "just a couple of good players" Rosario also keeps showing signs but he's very inconsistent. Our rotation is still excellent even with a few guys underperforming. I get really tired of hearing about depth in the rotation. Who is signing proven starting pitching and stashing it in AAA? It's ludicrous. As for the vets we went after? It is what it is... We sprinkled in Cano, Lowrie, and Ramos. All three played at an extremely high level and two were all stars last season. None have been great and Lowrie has been out all year. The Yankees go after washed up DJ LeMahieu who nobody wanted and it turns to gold. Last year he crushed the Mets for signing Bruce, Frazier, Swarzak, and Vargas. All have been good this year... For whatever reason it just hasn't come together. So Mets right?

The pen has been an abomination and this last week might have sunk our season, but the future is still bright with this nucleus. We need to figure out Wheeler or his replacement and re-tool the pen. That's about it.

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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 9:17 pm : link
Massive DP for the MAPE.
Well, That's An Even Better Way  
Percy : 7/2/2019 9:18 pm : link
To get there.
Paxton stayed  
dune69 : 7/2/2019 9:19 pm : link
tough. Good scramble.
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Eman11 : 7/2/2019 9:21 pm : link
In comment 14490266 arcarsenal said:
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Massive DP for the MAPE.


Those two guys are a sweet double play combo.

Just goes to show how insanely talented they both are for Gleyber to have played most of the year at SS, and Didi missing all those months. They didn't have a spring working together this year but you'd never know it the way they turn the DP.
Wheeler deserved better support  
steve in ky : 7/2/2019 9:23 pm : link
from the offense
Bad call on 3-1  
black aces : 7/2/2019 9:23 pm : link
To Torres. This guy behind the plate sucks.
Nice outing Zack...  
ZGiants98 : 7/2/2019 9:23 pm : link
This is where it will completely go to shit now... lol
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 9:25 pm : link
Z, all due respect but I haven't seen a single person claim the Mets have a top 10-12 farm system right now. It's simply not good. They're nowhere near top 10. They're likely not even top 20.

How you can keep saying that spending isn't an issue is crazy to me... but we never agreed on that before and probably aren't going to now.

DJ LeMahieu was never "washed up"

If you want to talk about ludicrous bullshit, that's the biggest BS statement in this entire thread. The guy was just a batting champ like 2 years prior to NYY singing him.
Now the dumbass calls a pitch  
section125 : 7/2/2019 9:27 pm : link
3 inches outside a strike on Gardner. He doesn't call them when they are strikes and now he calls one outside. Pathetic
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2019 9:29 pm : link
DJ was even an all star in 2017.

Washed up.. LOL.

Cmon. What a crock of shit.
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