As it stood, Leonard reportedly flew back from LA to Toronto on Wednesday for the final meeting. The Knicks only can hope Leonard re-signs for one year with Toronto and becomes a free agent again in 2020. Five of the six free agents the Knicks signed are on one-year guarantees. Only Julius Randle got multiple years.
Leonard basically got stood up by us and we felt we had no shot at him so our odds will increase in 2020? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. If he wanted to be in NY then he could have signed a one year deal with us and then sign the super max in 2020 if that is why they are mentioning the one year deal. Can't he get more money from the team he will be on in 2019? So, if he is thinking about 2020, why wouldn't he sign with the team he wants to be on long term to get the most money?
Didn’t want to lose out on Ellington, Bullock, and Payton. Odds were heavily against Knicks getting him anyway, tho. But, I still would take the meeting because say Kawhi stays in Toronto for one or two more years and you would have a better idea for 2021. Instead they didn’t, and Uncle Dennis don’t play no games.
KD aside why take yourself out of the running for KL. I get it's not very likely, but was 'not losing out' on Randle or Portis or whoever, tho decent grabs the priority was 1 yr contracts
We don't know what info they had. But it seems like in the end, yes injury on KD, dislike of KI (or not willing to risk signing him w/o KD), and then this. Not a good look and I can't say I understand not taking the meeting so you don't lose out on Payton or the other names
he can get more money with them, if he signs with clippers or lakers it is the same money..
really cant blame the knicks they didnt want to wait because they knew the chances of signing him were small...
plsu they probably thought they would have a better chanxe next year if they have a better record..
oh one more thing, it is berman
I have been supportive of the Knicks through all of this. This is indefensible. What was the point of creating the cap space if you aren't even going to step up to the batter's box? We had room for 2 max contracts. We still could have signed players and still waited for that meeting on Wednesday.
had no chance of signing him. None. Zero. Zero point zero. Much ado about nothing here. No reason to waste anyones time. 99.9% chance he wasn't coming here to begin with. It went to 100% when all of the other max level guys signed elsewhere.
what is the point in waiting if you knew you had zero chance? Â
would not trust anything the media reports on the Knicks. I'd say the chances of the Knicks cancelling the meeting themselves are the same as the chances of Leonard signing with the Knicks.
does anything they can to make the knicks look bad. The Knicks do it enough themselves, but the media also adds to it by stretching the truth or just flat out making up shit to paint the knicks in a bad light.
had no chance of signing him. None. Zero. Zero point zero. Much ado about nothing here. No reason to waste anyones time. 99.9% chance he wasn't coming here to begin with. It went to 100% when all of the other max level guys signed elsewhere.
Right about the low chances of signing him. But, I still take the meeting, you don’t what type of impression you could make on the guy. Say he joins Toronto for two years and in 20121, the Knicks young core improves and there’s a sense of familiarity. But, the Knicks stood him up, he and his team(Uncle Dennis) won’t forget it.
had no chance of signing him. None. Zero. Zero point zero. Much ado about nothing here. No reason to waste anyones time. 99.9% chance he wasn't coming here to begin with. It went to 100% when all of the other max level guys signed elsewhere.
Right about the low chances of signing him. But, I still take the meeting, you don’t what type of impression you could make on the guy. Say he joins Toronto for two years and in 20121, the Knicks young core improves and there’s a sense of familiarity. But, the Knicks stood him up, he and his team(Uncle Dennis) won’t forget it.
mills and uncle dennis go back 20 years, he is also friends with craig robinson who works for the knicks, pretty sure they didnt piss him off...
He is taking the time to meet unlike every other player. You say it is zero. You don't know that. Leonard is a different type of player and we all know that. You cannot fit everybody into one box and say they are all the same. You take the meeting. Even if it is to say that if you sign a one year deal next year with whatever team we will still be interested in you in 2020. Let us prove to you that we have a core that you can work with. At least make him think. I hate the mentality that you don't even take a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole point of creating this cap space was to go after max guys. Who would we have missed out on? We still would have signed Randle, Portis, Gibson, etc. Who would this have really prevented us from signing? These guys all basically signed one year deals. Yeah, they were in such high demand that we couldn't risk losing them.
does anything they can to make the knicks look bad. The Knicks do it enough themselves, but the media also adds to it by stretching the truth or just flat out making up shit to paint the knicks in a bad light.
there is actually people in tbe media saying the knicks made some good moves but it is the knicks so they are going to make funnof it anyway...
He is taking the time to meet unlike every other player. You say it is zero. You don't know that. Leonard is a different type of player and we all know that. You cannot fit everybody into one box and say they are all the same. You take the meeting. Even if it is to say that if you sign a one year deal next year with whatever team we will still be interested in you in 2020. Let us prove to you that we have a core that you can work with. At least make him think. I hate the mentality that you don't even take a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole point of creating this cap space was to go after max guys. Who would we have missed out on? We still would have signed Randle, Portis, Gibson, etc. Who would this have really prevented us from signing? These guys all basically signed one year deals. Yeah, they were in such high demand that we couldn't risk losing them.
again uncle dennis and mills go back 20 years pretty sure they talked and he told mills look you got no chsnce but if we take 1 and 1 deal we will give you a shot next year...
He is taking the time to meet unlike every other player. You say it is zero. You don't know that. Leonard is a different type of player and we all know that. You cannot fit everybody into one box and say they are all the same. You take the meeting. Even if it is to say that if you sign a one year deal next year with whatever team we will still be interested in you in 2020. Let us prove to you that we have a core that you can work with. At least make him think. I hate the mentality that you don't even take a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole point of creating this cap space was to go after max guys. Who would we have missed out on? We still would have signed Randle, Portis, Gibson, etc. Who would this have really prevented us from signing? These guys all basically signed one year deals. Yeah, they were in such high demand that we couldn't risk losing them.
again uncle dennis and mills go back 20 years pretty sure they talked and he told mills look you got no chsnce but if we take 1 and 1 deal we will give you a shot next year...
absolutelt zero reason to waste your time
So, Leonard wanted to take the meeting but his uncle undermined him and told us to cancel? While I don't doubt that it could have happened, again, who would we have missed out on? We still would have got our main targets in FA as we had room for 2 max players.
He is taking the time to meet unlike every other player. You say it is zero. You don't know that. Leonard is a different type of player and we all know that. You cannot fit everybody into one box and say they are all the same. You take the meeting. Even if it is to say that if you sign a one year deal next year with whatever team we will still be interested in you in 2020. Let us prove to you that we have a core that you can work with. At least make him think. I hate the mentality that you don't even take a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole point of creating this cap space was to go after max guys. Who would we have missed out on? We still would have signed Randle, Portis, Gibson, etc. Who would this have really prevented us from signing? These guys all basically signed one year deals. Yeah, they were in such high demand that we couldn't risk losing them.
again uncle dennis and mills go back 20 years pretty sure they talked and he told mills look you got no chsnce but if we take 1 and 1 deal we will give you a shot next year...
absolutelt zero reason to waste your time
That’s one way to look at it. But just because your friends doesn’t mean you’re on the same page or against doing things which can be seen as disrespect by the other. Hell, people talk about Lebron and Wade being brothers, and Lebron didn’t tell Wade he was going back to Cleveland on their flight together. To me, there’s no harm in taking the meeting
And I do agree that this story could be fabricated Â
but we have not heard Leonard say he didn't want to meet and by the way we approached FA it supports this claim. We went hard after a bunch of guys at once. If we had any plan to meet with him then we would have stopped after like 3 FA. By all accounts Leonard was meeting with us.
He is taking the time to meet unlike every other player. You say it is zero. You don't know that. Leonard is a different type of player and we all know that. You cannot fit everybody into one box and say they are all the same. You take the meeting. Even if it is to say that if you sign a one year deal next year with whatever team we will still be interested in you in 2020. Let us prove to you that we have a core that you can work with. At least make him think. I hate the mentality that you don't even take a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole point of creating this cap space was to go after max guys. Who would we have missed out on? We still would have signed Randle, Portis, Gibson, etc. Who would this have really prevented us from signing? These guys all basically signed one year deals. Yeah, they were in such high demand that we couldn't risk losing them.
again uncle dennis and mills go back 20 years pretty sure they talked and he told mills look you got no chsnce but if we take 1 and 1 deal we will give you a shot next year...
absolutelt zero reason to waste your time
So, Leonard wanted to take the meeting but his uncle undermined him and told us to cancel? While I don't doubt that it could have happened, again, who would we have missed out on? We still would have got our main targets in FA as we had room for 2 max players.
no what i am saying is i am sure kawhis uncle told the knicks look we will take a meeting if you want but right now you are 4th on the list...The knicmss probably said ok, we are going to move on then not to waste anyones time, if you take a 1+1 we want an audience next yesr...
really that simple
it wasnt knicks calling saying thanks but no thanks Â
Even if we are 4th on the list then lay the groundwork for 2020. If it wasn't a waste of Leonard's time then it shouldn't have been a waste of our time. If he was willing to listen then you take the meeting.
RE: And my point is if Leonard is willing to meet you meet. Â
Even if we are 4th on the list then lay the groundwork for 2020. If it wasn't a waste of Leonard's time then it shouldn't have been a waste of our time. If he was willing to listen then you take the meeting.
Exactly, both sides could agree that this year it’s not a fit, but by taking the meeting you have a chance to make a lasting impression on him which can help next year or 2 years from now.
RE: And my point is if Leonard is willing to meet you meet. Â
Even if we are 4th on the list then lay the groundwork for 2020. If it wasn't a waste of Leonard's time then it shouldn't have been a waste of our time. If he was willing to listen then you take the meeting.
because you are listening to berman, you think thenknicks just cancelled...you are making it out like knicks called kawhi and said no we are not meeting with you..
would not trust anything the media reports on the Knicks. I'd say the chances of the Knicks cancelling the meeting themselves are the same as the chances of Leonard signing with the Knicks.
Yes.
RE: RE: And my point is if Leonard is willing to meet you meet. Â
Even if we are 4th on the list then lay the groundwork for 2020. If it wasn't a waste of Leonard's time then it shouldn't have been a waste of our time. If he was willing to listen then you take the meeting.
because you are listening to berman, you think thenknicks just cancelled...you are making it out like knicks called kawhi and said no we are not meeting with you..
i guarantee that is not what happened
FA started Sunday as we all know. I can absolutely see the Knicks not wanting to wait until Wednesday to take a meeting. Not saying I disagree with you but I don't think it is as simple as you making it out to be. Again, IF, and that is a big IF, Leonard was willing to meet with us and we declined that is bullshit.
and maybe it's because I have been a fan since the early 70's and at this point in my life I don't need the angst. But I simply prefer to try and get exciting about some of the young players they do have and watching what type of players they might develop into.
Getting overly frustrated about things they don't do, or do wrong isn't enjoyable at all for me as a fan.
And to be clear this isn't my complaining about anyone posting this, and I can appreciate the frustration of many fans over this team and wanting to talk about it.
Even if we are 4th on the list then lay the groundwork for 2020. If it wasn't a waste of Leonard's time then it shouldn't have been a waste of our time. If he was willing to listen then you take the meeting.
because you are listening to berman, you think thenknicks just cancelled...you are making it out like knicks called kawhi and said no we are not meeting with you..
i guarantee that is not what happened
FA started Sunday as we all know. I can absolutely see the Knicks not wanting to wait until Wednesday to take a meeting. Not saying I disagree with you but I don't think it is as simple as you making it out to be. Again, IF, and that is a big IF, Leonard was willing to meet with us and we declined that is bullshit.
Go listen to windhorst and woj podcast, woj basically said agents were telling teams they had 10 or 15 minutes decide or they were moving on...
woj said this was different than any other free agent period, players signed very fast and were not waiting...
Knicks couldnt afford to wait when they had zero chance of signing him, now if it was 50-50, hell even a 30 percent chance i would agree with you but if they were told zero chance j dont blame them
RE: And I do agree that this story could be fabricated Â
but we have not heard Leonard say he didn't want to meet and by the way we approached FA it supports this claim. We went hard after a bunch of guys at once. If we had any plan to meet with him then we would have stopped after like 3 FA. By all accounts Leonard was meeting with us.
Leonard has barely said anything. This is a total non-story that is more than likely fabricated in some way. You're feeding into the narrative that the media wants. I would put the chances of the Knicks cancelling the meeting at zero percent.
it was probably more mutual than berman is letting on but that doesnt get clicks
When Woj tweeted the story about KD and Kawhi "discussing scenarios" in which they could play together, he initially mentioned the Clippers and Knicks as places that could actually happen based on the cap. Later on during a TV interview, he said that it basically became the Clippers as Kawhi wasn't interested in being in NY. KD wasn't particularly interested in LA. That happened prior to free agency.
People who hate the Knicks are always willing to believe the worst about them. For me, there's so much conflicting stuff that I doubt pretty much everything and stick to the safest sources.
RE: RE: it wasnt knicks calling saying thanks but no thanks Â
it was probably more mutual than berman is letting on but that doesnt get clicks
When Woj tweeted the story about KD and Kawhi "discussing scenarios" in which they could play together, he initially mentioned the Clippers and Knicks as places that could actually happen based on the cap. Later on during a TV interview, he said that it basically became the Clippers as Kawhi wasn't interested in being in NY. KD wasn't particularly interested in LA. That happened prior to free agency.
People who hate the Knicks are always willing to believe the worst about them. For me, there's so much conflicting stuff that I doubt pretty much everything and stick to the safest sources.
woj will always slant a story in the clippers favor when he is speculating
when the knicks were in la they didnt meeting with uncle dennis or even kawhi and they talked about it and decided mutually not to have a meeting on wednesday?
According to woj kawhi told teams if anytging leaks about what they talk abojt that they were automatically out
First, basically no chance he would sign with the Knicks. Second, the Knicks need to stop hanging around these free-agents like lovestruck stage-door johnnys trying to court someone out of their league. And, to their credit, they're edging away from that. They drafted a potential star, added a talented young power forward and didn't trade away their other young guys to get the next McDyess/Marbury/Stoudamire/Anthony.
Draft well, develop guys like Mitch and Knox (and maybe Frank?), hope you strike gold with a reclamation project, put together a decent team with some depth, avoid getting stuck with a bad contract and keep some flexibility. Miss a meeting with a superstar who's not signing anyway? No problem.
Actually given the cap space they still could have jumped on the 1-2 Â
guys they got and slow play the rest. So they land Randle & Payton but take the KL meeting if not for 2019, to lay ground work & get intel for 2020 or 21. You have NO other chance to meet him or his people even if you have a shot next time around
Can't win if you don't play. Barring more details it seems short sighted
Big thing is what they did do, while smart, patient etc Â
was more about 1-yr contracts than specific players or talent. Why would you be concerned to lose out on that vs even the outside shot at Kawhi? Especially when he's giving you a meet?
Spot on! The Knicks are finally building the smart way. Try and draft well, say under the cap, sign free agents that fit a role. No more chasing every shiny penny that becomes available.
What’s that saying? The definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That’s been the Knicks the past 20 years or so. Time to stop being crazy.
RJ looks real comfortable in the clips from Vegas practice. Curious to see if the Knicks have another diamond in the rough with Iggy or one of their UDFA.
Has zero chance at Kawhi. He was never signing there this summer. But I wouldn’t describe anything Mills and Perry do as “tactical”.
But I agree with others that’s it time to stop chasing these free agent stars. Irving and Durant didn’t even consider the Knicks. I would bet they knew they were Brooklyn bound for a long time now.
Focus on getting your team to a respectable level. Develop the young players they have and acquire more picks and buy low candidates. They are years away from being a good nba team. And lastly please fire Steve Mills. His main attribute was supposedly his relationships with top players and agents for recruiting. How’s that worked out? He’s been around this losing for far too long. Time for him to go.
I am done with these stories and the media pile on Â
Looking forward to watching the kids play and develop.
The best kick in the face to all the media would be if Barrett, Knox, Robinson, Randle, and DSJ turn into a cohesive starting 5 this year with a deep experienced bench behind them.
Make up a negative story about a NY sports team. Period. Here watch: "Have heard from sources that Kawhi may have been open to meeting with Knicks, but meeting never happened. Kawhi's uncle may have been the go-between, but communication allegedly fell apart. Knicks seem to have jumped the gun in trying to build a roster for the coming season. Not sure what is going on with the Knicks. Big mistake for them to not push for meeting with Kawhi even if he had no desire to meet or sign with them."
Serious question; given the New York sports media and maybe the sports media at large is sensationalized and more commentary than news, why are the Knicks such an outlying victim?
I'm not a Knicks fan, so I don't read a ton of coverage. I typically view coverage of the Giants as average, and coverage of the Yankees as fairly decent.
What is it about the Knicks that make them such a target?
Serious question; given the New York sports media and maybe the sports media at large is sensationalized and more commentary than news, why are the Knicks such an outlying victim?
I'm not a Knicks fan, so I don't read a ton of coverage. I typically view coverage of the Giants as average, and coverage of the Yankees as fairly decent.
What is it about the Knicks that make them such a target?
1st is dolan
2nd they gsrner the most clicks, notice with kd and irving going to the nets, what was the most talked about story? the knicks failed, not the nets did a good job it was the knicks failed...
Serious question; given the New York sports media and maybe the sports media at large is sensationalized and more commentary than news, why are the Knicks such an outlying victim?
I'm not a Knicks fan, so I don't read a ton of coverage. I typically view coverage of the Giants as average, and coverage of the Yankees as fairly decent.
What is it about the Knicks that make them such a target?
I would think because in spite of being a high profile team in one of the largest markets that loves basketball, as well as one of the original NBA franchises, they are consistently not just bad but awful both on & off court. Haven't sniffed contention in decades, if they've even had a particularly exciting team over that time (maybe 1 or 2. maybe)
Leonard basically got stood up by us and we felt we had no shot at him so our odds will increase in 2020? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. If he wanted to be in NY then he could have signed a one year deal with us and then sign the super max in 2020 if that is why they are mentioning the one year deal. Can't he get more money from the team he will be on in 2019? So, if he is thinking about 2020, why wouldn't he sign with the team he wants to be on long term to get the most money?
really cant blame the knicks they didnt want to wait because they knew the chances of signing him were small...
plsu they probably thought they would have a better chanxe next year if they have a better record..
oh one more thing, it is berman
We don't know what info they had. But it seems like in the end, yes injury on KD, dislike of KI (or not willing to risk signing him w/o KD), and then this. Not a good look and I can't say I understand not taking the meeting so you don't lose out on Payton or the other names
really cant blame the knicks they didnt want to wait because they knew the chances of signing him were small...
plsu they probably thought they would have a better chanxe next year if they have a better record..
oh one more thing, it is berman
I have been supportive of the Knicks through all of this. This is indefensible. What was the point of creating the cap space if you aren't even going to step up to the batter's box? We had room for 2 max contracts. We still could have signed players and still waited for that meeting on Wednesday.
Right about the low chances of signing him. But, I still take the meeting, you don’t what type of impression you could make on the guy. Say he joins Toronto for two years and in 20121, the Knicks young core improves and there’s a sense of familiarity. But, the Knicks stood him up, he and his team(Uncle Dennis) won’t forget it.
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had no chance of signing him. None. Zero. Zero point zero. Much ado about nothing here. No reason to waste anyones time. 99.9% chance he wasn't coming here to begin with. It went to 100% when all of the other max level guys signed elsewhere.
Right about the low chances of signing him. But, I still take the meeting, you don’t what type of impression you could make on the guy. Say he joins Toronto for two years and in 20121, the Knicks young core improves and there’s a sense of familiarity. But, the Knicks stood him up, he and his team(Uncle Dennis) won’t forget it.
mills and uncle dennis go back 20 years, he is also friends with craig robinson who works for the knicks, pretty sure they didnt piss him off...
there is actually people in tbe media saying the knicks made some good moves but it is the knicks so they are going to make funnof it anyway...
again uncle dennis and mills go back 20 years pretty sure they talked and he told mills look you got no chsnce but if we take 1 and 1 deal we will give you a shot next year...
absolutelt zero reason to waste your time
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He is taking the time to meet unlike every other player. You say it is zero. You don't know that. Leonard is a different type of player and we all know that. You cannot fit everybody into one box and say they are all the same. You take the meeting. Even if it is to say that if you sign a one year deal next year with whatever team we will still be interested in you in 2020. Let us prove to you that we have a core that you can work with. At least make him think. I hate the mentality that you don't even take a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole point of creating this cap space was to go after max guys. Who would we have missed out on? We still would have signed Randle, Portis, Gibson, etc. Who would this have really prevented us from signing? These guys all basically signed one year deals. Yeah, they were in such high demand that we couldn't risk losing them.
again uncle dennis and mills go back 20 years pretty sure they talked and he told mills look you got no chsnce but if we take 1 and 1 deal we will give you a shot next year...
absolutelt zero reason to waste your time
So, Leonard wanted to take the meeting but his uncle undermined him and told us to cancel? While I don't doubt that it could have happened, again, who would we have missed out on? We still would have got our main targets in FA as we had room for 2 max players.
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He is taking the time to meet unlike every other player. You say it is zero. You don't know that. Leonard is a different type of player and we all know that. You cannot fit everybody into one box and say they are all the same. You take the meeting. Even if it is to say that if you sign a one year deal next year with whatever team we will still be interested in you in 2020. Let us prove to you that we have a core that you can work with. At least make him think. I hate the mentality that you don't even take a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole point of creating this cap space was to go after max guys. Who would we have missed out on? We still would have signed Randle, Portis, Gibson, etc. Who would this have really prevented us from signing? These guys all basically signed one year deals. Yeah, they were in such high demand that we couldn't risk losing them.
again uncle dennis and mills go back 20 years pretty sure they talked and he told mills look you got no chsnce but if we take 1 and 1 deal we will give you a shot next year...
absolutelt zero reason to waste your time
That’s one way to look at it. But just because your friends doesn’t mean you’re on the same page or against doing things which can be seen as disrespect by the other. Hell, people talk about Lebron and Wade being brothers, and Lebron didn’t tell Wade he was going back to Cleveland on their flight together. To me, there’s no harm in taking the meeting
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He is taking the time to meet unlike every other player. You say it is zero. You don't know that. Leonard is a different type of player and we all know that. You cannot fit everybody into one box and say they are all the same. You take the meeting. Even if it is to say that if you sign a one year deal next year with whatever team we will still be interested in you in 2020. Let us prove to you that we have a core that you can work with. At least make him think. I hate the mentality that you don't even take a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole point of creating this cap space was to go after max guys. Who would we have missed out on? We still would have signed Randle, Portis, Gibson, etc. Who would this have really prevented us from signing? These guys all basically signed one year deals. Yeah, they were in such high demand that we couldn't risk losing them.
again uncle dennis and mills go back 20 years pretty sure they talked and he told mills look you got no chsnce but if we take 1 and 1 deal we will give you a shot next year...
absolutelt zero reason to waste your time
So, Leonard wanted to take the meeting but his uncle undermined him and told us to cancel? While I don't doubt that it could have happened, again, who would we have missed out on? We still would have got our main targets in FA as we had room for 2 max players.
no what i am saying is i am sure kawhis uncle told the knicks look we will take a meeting if you want but right now you are 4th on the list...The knicmss probably said ok, we are going to move on then not to waste anyones time, if you take a 1+1 we want an audience next yesr...
really that simple
Exactly, both sides could agree that this year it’s not a fit, but by taking the meeting you have a chance to make a lasting impression on him which can help next year or 2 years from now.
because you are listening to berman, you think thenknicks just cancelled...you are making it out like knicks called kawhi and said no we are not meeting with you..
i guarantee that is not what happened
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Even if we are 4th on the list then lay the groundwork for 2020. If it wasn't a waste of Leonard's time then it shouldn't have been a waste of our time. If he was willing to listen then you take the meeting.
because you are listening to berman, you think thenknicks just cancelled...you are making it out like knicks called kawhi and said no we are not meeting with you..
i guarantee that is not what happened
FA started Sunday as we all know. I can absolutely see the Knicks not wanting to wait until Wednesday to take a meeting. Not saying I disagree with you but I don't think it is as simple as you making it out to be. Again, IF, and that is a big IF, Leonard was willing to meet with us and we declined that is bullshit.
Getting overly frustrated about things they don't do, or do wrong isn't enjoyable at all for me as a fan.
And to be clear this isn't my complaining about anyone posting this, and I can appreciate the frustration of many fans over this team and wanting to talk about it.
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Even if we are 4th on the list then lay the groundwork for 2020. If it wasn't a waste of Leonard's time then it shouldn't have been a waste of our time. If he was willing to listen then you take the meeting.
because you are listening to berman, you think thenknicks just cancelled...you are making it out like knicks called kawhi and said no we are not meeting with you..
i guarantee that is not what happened
FA started Sunday as we all know. I can absolutely see the Knicks not wanting to wait until Wednesday to take a meeting. Not saying I disagree with you but I don't think it is as simple as you making it out to be. Again, IF, and that is a big IF, Leonard was willing to meet with us and we declined that is bullshit.
Go listen to windhorst and woj podcast, woj basically said agents were telling teams they had 10 or 15 minutes decide or they were moving on...
woj said this was different than any other free agent period, players signed very fast and were not waiting...
Knicks couldnt afford to wait when they had zero chance of signing him, now if it was 50-50, hell even a 30 percent chance i would agree with you but if they were told zero chance j dont blame them
Leonard has barely said anything. This is a total non-story that is more than likely fabricated in some way. You're feeding into the narrative that the media wants. I would put the chances of the Knicks cancelling the meeting at zero percent.
couple of nice videos on twitter of trier throwing a lob to barrett and barrett finishing at the rim on a drive
When Woj tweeted the story about KD and Kawhi "discussing scenarios" in which they could play together, he initially mentioned the Clippers and Knicks as places that could actually happen based on the cap. Later on during a TV interview, he said that it basically became the Clippers as Kawhi wasn't interested in being in NY. KD wasn't particularly interested in LA. That happened prior to free agency.
People who hate the Knicks are always willing to believe the worst about them. For me, there's so much conflicting stuff that I doubt pretty much everything and stick to the safest sources.
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it was probably more mutual than berman is letting on but that doesnt get clicks
When Woj tweeted the story about KD and Kawhi "discussing scenarios" in which they could play together, he initially mentioned the Clippers and Knicks as places that could actually happen based on the cap. Later on during a TV interview, he said that it basically became the Clippers as Kawhi wasn't interested in being in NY. KD wasn't particularly interested in LA. That happened prior to free agency.
People who hate the Knicks are always willing to believe the worst about them. For me, there's so much conflicting stuff that I doubt pretty much everything and stick to the safest sources.
woj will always slant a story in the clippers favor when he is speculating
According to woj kawhi told teams if anytging leaks about what they talk abojt that they were automatically out
Draft well, develop guys like Mitch and Knox (and maybe Frank?), hope you strike gold with a reclamation project, put together a decent team with some depth, avoid getting stuck with a bad contract and keep some flexibility. Miss a meeting with a superstar who's not signing anyway? No problem.
Can't win if you don't play. Barring more details it seems short sighted
What’s that saying? The definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That’s been the Knicks the past 20 years or so. Time to stop being crazy.
But I agree with others that’s it time to stop chasing these free agent stars. Irving and Durant didn’t even consider the Knicks. I would bet they knew they were Brooklyn bound for a long time now.
Focus on getting your team to a respectable level. Develop the young players they have and acquire more picks and buy low candidates. They are years away from being a good nba team. And lastly please fire Steve Mills. His main attribute was supposedly his relationships with top players and agents for recruiting. How’s that worked out? He’s been around this losing for far too long. Time for him to go.
The best kick in the face to all the media would be if Barrett, Knox, Robinson, Randle, and DSJ turn into a cohesive starting 5 this year with a deep experienced bench behind them.
This team is hosed
I'm not a Knicks fan, so I don't read a ton of coverage. I typically view coverage of the Giants as average, and coverage of the Yankees as fairly decent.
What is it about the Knicks that make them such a target?
I'm not a Knicks fan, so I don't read a ton of coverage. I typically view coverage of the Giants as average, and coverage of the Yankees as fairly decent.
What is it about the Knicks that make them such a target?
1st is dolan
2nd they gsrner the most clicks, notice with kd and irving going to the nets, what was the most talked about story? the knicks failed, not the nets did a good job it was the knicks failed...
Listen to talk radio evwrything was knicks
I'm not a Knicks fan, so I don't read a ton of coverage. I typically view coverage of the Giants as average, and coverage of the Yankees as fairly decent.
What is it about the Knicks that make them such a target?
I would think because in spite of being a high profile team in one of the largest markets that loves basketball, as well as one of the original NBA franchises, they are consistently not just bad but awful both on & off court. Haven't sniffed contention in decades, if they've even had a particularly exciting team over that time (maybe 1 or 2. maybe)