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NFT: Boone: Betances is "90% healed"

Greg from LI : 7/4/2019 10:32 am
I'm almost afraid to get excited about this, but they need him back in the worst way.
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90% healed  
adamg : 7/4/2019 10:55 am : link
Also means "not healed"
A week away from throwing  
adamg : 7/4/2019 10:56 am : link
Don't know when that means he should be back.
Imagine getting Betances back for the stretch run  
GiantJake : 7/4/2019 11:20 am : link
What a boost that would be. Also, I notice JP Feyereisen is dealing in the Scranton bullpen right now. He could be an option if they can get him on the 40 man. Ben Heller is also back in the Scranton bullpen and threw two scoreless as an opener the other day. Heller and Feyereisen were part of the Andrew Miller trade (along with Frazier and Sheffield). Heller had surgery, but both guys were considered flamethrowers when acquired. Maybe they can join the Scranton shuttle and give the Yanks more bullpen options down the stretch.
When Boone talks about injury updates....  
Carson53 : 7/4/2019 11:26 am : link
lets just say, take it with a grain of salt.
He's not exactly omniscient in that area, he has proven.
He has been wrong so many times since he has been here,
just saying.
RE: When Boone talks about injury updates....  
rich in DC : 7/4/2019 11:45 am : link
In comment 14491680 Carson53 said:
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lets just say, take it with a grain of salt.
He's not exactly omniscient in that area, he has proven.
He has been wrong so many times since he has been here,
just saying.


You are assigning blame in the wrong direction. Remember that Boone gets his information from the training and conditioning staff. The same staff that somehow missed that Severino had a strained lat- and the same staff that did not do an MRI on Severino before they attempted to ramp him up to check whether the injury was healed or not. Of course, the injury wasn't healed and Severino aggrivated the inury again- leading to an even longer shutdown.

I'll say it again- there is something wrong and let's hope that Cashman takes decisive action to go after the root cause rather than the results.
RE: RE: When Boone talks about injury updates....  
Carson53 : 7/4/2019 11:54 am : link
In comment 14491692 rich in DC said:
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In comment 14491680 Carson53 said:


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lets just say, take it with a grain of salt.
He's not exactly omniscient in that area, he has proven.
He has been wrong so many times since he has been here,
just saying.



You are assigning blame in the wrong direction. Remember that Boone gets his information from the training and conditioning staff. The same staff that somehow missed that Severino had a strained lat- and the same staff that did not do an MRI on Severino before they attempted to ramp him up to check whether the injury was healed or not. Of course, the injury wasn't healed and Severino aggrivated the inury again- leading to an even longer shutdown.

I'll say it again- there is something wrong and let's hope that Cashman takes decisive action to go after the root cause rather than the results.
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Well, yes and no....Last season, both Boone and Cash said Judge would be out for four weeks, he was out about seven weeks.
This year Cash got smart, and said Didi would be
back in 'June, July or August'...
When Hicks had his back issue in ST, Booney said just a few days, that turned into about 2 1/2 months. So it's a little of both.
RE: RE: RE: When Boone talks about injury updates....  
rich in DC : 7/4/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14491696 Carson53 said:
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In comment 14491692 rich in DC said:


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In comment 14491680 Carson53 said:


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lets just say, take it with a grain of salt.
He's not exactly omniscient in that area, he has proven.
He has been wrong so many times since he has been here,
just saying.



You are assigning blame in the wrong direction. Remember that Boone gets his information from the training and conditioning staff. The same staff that somehow missed that Severino had a strained lat- and the same staff that did not do an MRI on Severino before they attempted to ramp him up to check whether the injury was healed or not. Of course, the injury wasn't healed and Severino aggrivated the inury again- leading to an even longer shutdown.

I'll say it again- there is something wrong and let's hope that Cashman takes decisive action to go after the root cause rather than the results.

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Well, yes and no....Last season, both Boone and Cash said Judge would be out for four weeks, he was out about seven weeks.
This year Cash got smart, and said Didi would be
back in 'June, July or August'...
When Hicks had his back issue in ST, Booney said just a few days, that turned into about 2 1/2 months. So it's a little of both.


Do you REALLY think that Boone comes up with these timelines by himself? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

I have been beating this drum for months now- but there are SERIOUS issues with the Yanks S&C program. Many here have tried to dismiss it as mere bad luck, or small sample sizes. That might have been a legitimate claim back in April or May- but now that we are in July- and the soft tissue injuries continue to pile up- with Voit being just the latest victim- the Yanks and Cashman need to take action.

Its too late to undo what has already been done- but something needs to change- the Yanks can't afford to pile up the injuries. Except for Andujar's injury- and maybe CC's, who has chronic knee issues that have been there for years- these injuries are not of the "oh, that's just part of the game" type of injuries. Its not sprained ankles, hamstrings from trying to beat out an infield hit, or crashing into the wall type of injuries. These are muscle pulls and shoulder problems that are of the failure to properly stretch or condition the muscles for a long season type of injuries.

How long do the Yanks continue to allow the current crew to continue to make the same mistakes before ordering changes?
I don’t think that anyone’s ‘blaming’ Boone  
wigs in nyc : 7/4/2019 12:06 pm : link
or saying that he’s intentionally misleading. It’s just that no one should take the injury timelines which are shared to the press from him as gospel. Right? Agreed?
The  
mitch300 : 7/4/2019 12:16 pm : link
Yankees leave no stone un turned when it comes to getting a competitive advantage. You have to believe they are analyzing all the injuries and causes. If they can figure out a better way to condition these players they will do it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: When Boone talks about injury updates....  
Carson53 : 7/4/2019 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14491709 rich in DC said:
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In comment 14491696 Carson53 said:


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In comment 14491692 rich in DC said:


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In comment 14491680 Carson53 said:


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lets just say, take it with a grain of salt.
He's not exactly omniscient in that area, he has proven.
He has been wrong so many times since he has been here,
just saying.



You are assigning blame in the wrong direction. Remember that Boone gets his information from the training and conditioning staff. The same staff that somehow missed that Severino had a strained lat- and the same staff that did not do an MRI on Severino before they attempted to ramp him up to check whether the injury was healed or not. Of course, the injury wasn't healed and Severino aggrivated the inury again- leading to an even longer shutdown.

I'll say it again- there is something wrong and let's hope that Cashman takes decisive action to go after the root cause rather than the results.

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Well, yes and no....Last season, both Boone and Cash said Judge would be out for four weeks, he was out about seven weeks.
This year Cash got smart, and said Didi would be
back in 'June, July or August'...
When Hicks had his back issue in ST, Booney said just a few days, that turned into about 2 1/2 months. So it's a little of both.



Do you REALLY think that Boone comes up with these timelines by himself? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

I have been beating this drum for months now- but there are SERIOUS issues with the Yanks S&C program. Many here have tried to dismiss it as mere bad luck, or small sample sizes. That might have been a legitimate claim back in April or May- but now that we are in July- and the soft tissue injuries continue to pile up- with Voit being just the latest victim- the Yanks and Cashman need to take action.

Its too late to undo what has already been done- but something needs to change- the Yanks can't afford to pile up the injuries. Except for Andujar's injury- and maybe CC's, who has chronic knee issues that have been there for years- these injuries are not of the "oh, that's just part of the game" type of injuries. Its not sprained ankles, hamstrings from trying to beat out an infield hit, or crashing into the wall type of injuries. These are muscle pulls and shoulder problems that are of the failure to properly stretch or condition the muscles for a long season type of injuries.

How long do the Yanks continue to allow the current crew to continue to make the same mistakes before ordering changes?
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Sell the bridge to somebody else, I am saying at times
he does speak out of place. Of course I know where he gets the information from.
I think there is a part of him that still considers himself 'part of the media',
since he spent about 10 years at ESPN, therefore he tries
to accommodate them. Sometimes he would be better off saying something like "I'm not sure" to the media, regarding injury, rather than having another Skippy Magoo moment.
I also agree with both of you folks,
that the S & C staff needs improvement. I think that's one reason they hired that new guy guy very recently.
That is part of his expertise.
Boone  
PaulN : 7/6/2019 10:41 am : link
Has made some bad updates, we all know he gets the information, whether he is jumping the gun on some of these updates, who knows for certain, but I doubt it. I thought there were a lot of injuries last year, is something wrong, I can't say with any certainty, but in my opinion there must be something they are doing wrong.
rich is right that there  
section125 : 7/7/2019 9:54 am : link
is something wrong with the way the medical staff is handling the injuries. Both Severino and Betances had shoulder trouble that then caused lat problems. That is not coincidence. Hicks' back, Judge's oblique and Voit's ab strains are core muscle injuries. It may the "new" upward swing technique, but something is allowing these strains.
I don't know if these guys are over trained, just "too" conditioned or some area is under trained. But similar injuries are telling a story.
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