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NFT: Knicks First Summer League Game! 9:30 PM on ESPN

Anakim : 7/5/2019 8:02 am
RJ's Knicks vs. Zion's Pelicans


Let's see what we got.
potentially  
nygiants16 : 7/5/2019 8:21 am : link
3/5s of the starting lineup is playing tonight
And so it begins...  
NYRiese : 7/5/2019 8:48 am : link
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Can we all try our  
GMEN46 : 7/5/2019 8:56 am : link
Best to not overreact either way. If Barrett goes 0-6 from 3 or 5-7 from 3 can we keep in perspective how unimportant these games are. If Knox shoots 5/15 it doesn’t mean he hasn’t improved over the summer
RE: Can we all try our  
Eli Wilson : 7/5/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14492208 GMEN46 said:
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Best to not overreact either way. If Barrett goes 0-6 from 3 or 5-7 from 3 can we keep in perspective how unimportant these games are. If Knox shoots 5/15 it doesn’t mean he hasn’t improved over the summer


Impossible!
Yeah good luck with that...  
Italianju : 7/5/2019 9:14 am : link
Barrett will score 23 points tonight but shoot 42% and the volume scorer crowd will come out in full force.

Def excited for this game. We get our first look at Barrett and we should have at minimum 4 players going tonight who should either start or log legit minutes. Plus our second round pick. And of course we get to see Zion.
Knicks favored to win title  
Eli Wilson : 7/5/2019 9:14 am : link
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nygiants16 : 7/5/2019 9:32 am : link
Barrett: I just want to see the jumper and a little playmaking..

Knox: Same thing plus i want to see his positioning on defense...

Trier: more playmaking, getting others involved..

robinson: same intensity on defense, but smarter, i wsnt to see if he has learned positioning and playing a little smarter, offensively i really dont care if he can shoot 3's

How about guys that  
Dave on the UWS : 7/5/2019 9:43 am : link
look like they belong, are working hard to improve?
I've always enjoyed Summer League, and I'm most excited for this one.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 9:56 am : link
RJ, Trier, Knox and Mitch all out there should be fun. Also curious to see Zion (like everyone else) - I've seen some highlights of him out there in Vegas, and, um, he looks pretty damn fat. Maybe the camera added 10 pounds.
Also curious to see the D2 pick-up - Amir Hinton.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 9:57 am : link
I bet he catches fire in one of these games and scores 25.
Obviously interested in seeing RJ and Iggy  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 9:58 am : link
Want to see:

If Mitch developed some sort of perimeter game

If Kevin Knox II can be more consistent

What this Hinton kid is all about. And if Wooten can be like a poor man's Ibaka

How Ellenson competes because Lord knows he'd be a better addition to the team than Lance Thomas
Saw a graphic of last year's opening night starting lineup  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 10:02 am : link
versus this year's projected lineup....

Last year: Burke, Timmy, Frank, Lance, Kanter
This year: Smith Jr., RJ, Knox, Randle, Mitch

That looks like progress to me, but still a long way to go.
I just hope  
PhilSimms15 : 7/5/2019 10:31 am : link
RJ doesn’t bomb tonight because we will then be subjected to a new round of negative, nasty and sarcastic articles from the likes of Isola, Beck, Bondy and others.

However, it is clear SL can’t tell us too much about any one player as Knox looked like a future superstar in last year’s Summer League.

Knick fans need just s little bit of sunshine.
RE: I just hope  
nygiants16 : 7/5/2019 11:14 am : link
In comment 14492290 PhilSimms15 said:
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RJ doesn’t bomb tonight because we will then be subjected to a new round of negative, nasty and sarcastic articles from the likes of Isola, Beck, Bondy and others.

However, it is clear SL can’t tell us too much about any one player as Knox looked like a future superstar in last year’s Summer League.

Knick fans need just s little bit of sunshine.


there is going to be negative articles no matter what happens tonight...
It's en vogue to smash  
Jan in DC : 7/5/2019 12:33 pm : link
the Giants and the Knicks in the media now. I typically just try to listen to podcasts. Most of them have a more thoughtful approach to analyzing the team.
RE: I've always enjoyed Summer League, and I'm most excited for this one.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/5/2019 12:38 pm : link
In comment 14492255 bceagle05 said:
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RJ, Trier, Knox and Mitch all out there should be fun. Also curious to see Zion (like everyone else) - I've seen some highlights of him out there in Vegas, and, um, he looks pretty damn fat. Maybe the camera added 10 pounds.


Yeah... I saw the highlights of Zion too and he definitely is not in shape in the video I saw. It looks like he has a gut.
Legion Hoops is a shaky source but...  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 12:49 pm : link
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Ross @LegionHoopsRoss
The Knicks and Magic are discussing a trade for Frank Ntilikina, per league source.
RE: Legion Hoops is a shaky source but...  
Jon in NYC : 7/5/2019 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14492376 bceagle05 said:
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Ross @LegionHoopsRoss
The Knicks and Magic are discussing a trade for Frank Ntilikina, per league source.



Wonder if we could get a lotto protected first.
RE: RE: I've always enjoyed Summer League, and I'm most excited for this one.  
Lurts : 7/5/2019 1:03 pm : link
In comment 14492365 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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RJ, Trier, Knox and Mitch all out there should be fun. Also curious to see Zion (like everyone else) - I've seen some highlights of him out
there in Vegas, and, um, he looks pretty damn fat. Maybe the camera added 10 pounds.



Yeah... I saw the highlights of Zion too and he definitely is not in shape in the video I saw. It looks like he has a gut.


One of BBI's more connected members gave an early but obscure "stay away" warning on Zion. I thought he was hinting that Zion might have a relish for beer.
RE: Knicks favored to win title  
flycatcher : 7/5/2019 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14492232 Eli Wilson said:
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Well, there’s that.
I feel I should re-emphasize that Legion Hoops is a shaky source.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 1:07 pm : link
Probably shouldn't have shared that tweet. However, it does seem like Frank is the odd man out here - pretty crowded at the guard/wing positions. I kind of wish they'd move him for his own sake - they clearly aren't big believers in him and don't prioritize his development.
might as well get whatever we can for...  
Italianju : 7/5/2019 1:31 pm : link
Frank. With DSJ and Elf on the roster (and maybe some PG minutes for Trier) i dont think Frank is going to see the court much. So whatever value he might still have will disappear.
RE: ..  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 2:15 pm : link
In comment 14492240 nygiants16 said:
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Barrett: I just want to see the jumper and a little playmaking..

Knox: Same thing plus i want to see his positioning on defense...

Trier: more playmaking, getting others involved..

robinson: same intensity on defense, but smarter, i wsnt to see if he has learned positioning and playing a little smarter, offensively i really dont care if he can shoot 3's
I'd like to see Robinson develop a post-up game, playing with his back to the basket, but I am not really expecting to see that this summer.
If they got even a second round pick for Frenchy  
Greg from LI : 7/5/2019 2:20 pm : link
You pretty much have to consider it a win.
They couldn't even get a 2nd round pick for Frank  
Canton : 7/5/2019 2:21 pm : link
I think the only way they get rid of him, is if he's packaged in a future trade.
RE: I feel I should re-emphasize that Legion Hoops is a shaky source.  
larryflower37 : 7/5/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14492395 bceagle05 said:
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Probably shouldn't have shared that tweet. However, it does seem like Frank is the odd man out here - pretty crowded at the guard/wing positions. I kind of wish they'd move him for his own sake - they clearly aren't big believers in him and don't prioritize his development.

There is no need really to move him at this point unless you get a great deal.
Let's see what he has in year 3, he is not stealing minutes or a roster spot from a more talented player.
He has shown flashes and might still develop.
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Canton : 7/5/2019 2:23 pm : link
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Frank  
TommyWiseau : 7/5/2019 2:43 pm : link
For Mo Bamba? I'd love that trade personally, him and Mitch would be great
I would send  
TommyWiseau : 7/5/2019 2:45 pm : link
Frank and a 2nd round pick for Bamba IMO
Ellison leaves Knicks summer league for personal reasons  
Canton : 7/5/2019 2:51 pm : link
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RE: Frank  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14492456 TommyWiseau said:
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For Mo Bamba? I'd love that trade personally, him and Mitch would be great
Serious question: Why would Orlando trade Bamba straight up for Ntilikina? Frank's value has to be kind of low at this point, since he's shown no offensive game to speak of. Bamba had pretty uninspiring numbers as a rookie but I still think there'd have to be something else in the deal to sweeten it for Orlando, no?
RE: I would send  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14492457 TommyWiseau said:
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Frank and a 2nd round pick for Bamba IMO
Ok, that makes sense. Or maybe an option to swap firsts?
RE: Ellison leaves Knicks summer league for personal reasons  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14492460 Canton said:
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i.e. probably a contract offer
RE: Legion Hoops is a shaky source but...  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14492376 bceagle05 said:
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Ross @LegionHoopsRoss
The Knicks and Magic are discussing a trade for Frank Ntilikina, per league source.




Hahaha


Cody🌹
@c0mradeCody

Replying to
@LegionHoopsRoss
Ntilikina and Fultz 🔥🔥🔥. 2/30 from the field every night
Mo Bamba and Reddish  
dep026 : 7/5/2019 3:19 pm : link
Played at the same high school along with Arizona’s Brandon Rudolph.

They weren’t too shabby.
Cris Carter says no Kawhi decision today - still mulling it over.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 4:10 pm : link
Added that it will NOT be a 1-2 year deal. He's signing somewhere long-term.
lebron and ad sitting courtside for knicks vs pelicans  
nygiants16 : 7/5/2019 4:12 pm : link
supposedly it is sold out and tickets are being sold for insane amount of money for tonights game..

day passes going for 80 dollars, 400 dollars for lower bowl
RE: Cris Carter says no Kawhi decision today - still mulling it over.  
Jon in NYC : 7/5/2019 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14492497 bceagle05 said:
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Added that it will NOT be a 1-2 year deal. He's signing somewhere long-term.


Ugh that’s too bad. Was holding out hope for a 1+1 with the Raps so he gets one more shot with their core and then gets a 10 year max somewhere. I really think he’s worried about body maintenance with the Lakers since they only have 4 guys. If he’s signing somewhere long term I bet it’s the Clippers.
Should be fun to  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/5/2019 6:52 pm : link
see Zion & RJ duke it out, pun intended.
Nice, I had my head in 100 things today  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 7:01 pm : link
so the reminder is greatly appreciated!
No way this game  
GMEN46 : 7/5/2019 9:23 pm : link
Is going to start at 9:30 right? I’m assuming the games are all played on the same court?
I'd love to see Knox look like a man among boys.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 9:32 pm : link
Last year he showed he can play well against this level of competition. That was nice but as we learned, that wasn't enough. This year I want him to show he belongs at a higher level.
RE: No way this game  
robbieballs2003 : 7/5/2019 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14492688 GMEN46 said:
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Is going to start at 9:30 right? I’m assuming the games are all played on the same court?


Correct. Fine by me though. I get to watch the end of the Yankees game, hopefully. Cortez made this a worse situation.
Is there a steaming  
Dave on the UWS : 7/5/2019 9:40 pm : link
Source. Can’t find it on Reddit and its an ESPN telecast.
Stream Link Available ?  
Canton : 7/5/2019 9:41 pm : link
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Coby white hasn't shot well from what I've seen but damn he's  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 9:46 pm : link
Quick and a slasher
Lets fn gooooooo  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:00 pm : link
RJ Barrett day 1

We won't call it game 1 yet cuz it's SL
Is their really no streams for the game?  
Canton : 7/5/2019 10:02 pm : link
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Knox with a solid start  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:05 pm : link
Barrett quiet so far.
And some solid d by mitch  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:05 pm : link
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Knox looking very confident  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:06 pm : link
last yr's kids looking like they got a jump on the group. Mitch, Zo too
Any streamers with a link  
Canton : 7/5/2019 10:07 pm : link
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RE: Any streamers with a link  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14492738 Canton said:
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Not sure... Watching on ESPN
Knox making a bid  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 10:08 pm : link
for Summer League Hall of Fame.
Knox  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 7/5/2019 10:09 pm : link
looking smooth
RE: Knox looking very confident  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14492736 ChaChing said:
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last yr's kids looking like they got a jump on the group. Mitch, Zo too


Three threes is nice, good to see he's got his shot early. Trier his usual aggressive self and making plays. Great to see. I'm hoping Barrett realizes he doesn't have to try and save the franchise and just plays his game as time comes, no rush.
Draining 3s early  
flycatcher : 7/5/2019 10:11 pm : link
Knox and trier playing strong, gotta like it
Defense outside of Knox and Mitch a little shaky to say the least  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:12 pm : link
Ugly whiff by RJ led to a Zion dunk too
That's the upside of Zion and the downside of Knox right now  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 10:13 pm : link
Zion is very strong. Knox... isn't.
Yeah those RJ free throws need some work.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 10:14 pm : link
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Missing Free throws  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 7/5/2019 10:15 pm : link
Will get old quick in NY
Barrett free throws  
GMEN46 : 7/5/2019 10:16 pm : link
Haha those were the worst free throws I have seen in a long time. The one early thing on Barrett that I did not realize is he is nowhere as athletic as I thought. I had not really seen him play a lot.
RE: Barrett free throws  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14492754 GMEN46 said:
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Haha those were the worst free throws I have seen in a long time. The one early thing on Barrett that I did not realize is he is nowhere as athletic as I thought. I had not really seen him play a lot.
Barrett and Knox are both still teenagers. I would expect both to still add more strength and explosiveness.
RE: Barrett free throws  
TommyWiseau : 7/5/2019 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14492754 GMEN46 said:
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Haha those were the worst free throws I have seen in a long time. The one early thing on Barrett that I did not realize is he is nowhere as athletic as I thought. I had not really seen him play a lot.


Yeah these 5 minutes of play is really showing how unathletic he is!!!!!!!!
Probably some nerves  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:19 pm : link
They were also when Davis walked in to meet lefraud for their date, so I'll give him a pass. He looked better on the and 1
RE: RE: Barrett free throws  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14492757 TommyWiseau said:
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Haha those were the worst free throws I have seen in a long time. The one early thing on Barrett that I did not realize is he is nowhere as athletic as I thought. I had not really seen him play a lot.



Yeah these 5 minutes of play is really showing how unathletic he is!!!!!!!!


Yea really unathletic on the reverse layup while getting fouled...
I realize that people are tuning in to see Williamson  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 10:27 pm : link
and maybe Barrett, but the breathless swooning for Zion is a bit much. We can see how he's doing, you don't need to hype him. And it would be nice to acknowledge that the Knicks are dominating the game, and that there are other players on the floor.
Iggy on the board.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 10:28 pm : link
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RE: Iggy on the board.  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14492769 bceagle05 said:
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Playing very aggressive. Good to see on day 1, esp for a 'shooter' (he's not Steve Novak & not all he does!)
Yikes Mitch down hard and stayed down  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:30 pm : link
Hopefully he's ok.

You want ugly free throws? Iggys got ugly free throws.
RE: Iggy on the board.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14492769 bceagle05 said:
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All rookies into the gym, 500 free throws apiece every day.
I love Doris but  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 10:33 pm : link
she's hyping this mediocre Pelicans squad like it's the '98 Bulls.
Fuckin love  
TommyWiseau : 7/5/2019 10:34 pm : link
Mitch, kid is going to be a player
Mitch. Oop Dunk  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:34 pm : link
then 1 more

Sit him, no more SL. He's ready lol
Ha just noticed Tyler cavanaugh is on the team  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:34 pm : link
He spent some time at GW as a transfer from wake forest, surprised he's getting cups of coffee in the NBA
RE: I love Doris but  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14492777 bceagle05 said:
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she's hyping this mediocre Pelicans squad like it's the '98 Bulls.


It'd be nice if they showed the game instead of showing the balls on their phones...
RE: Mitch. Oop Dunk  
TommyWiseau : 7/5/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14492779 ChaChing said:
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then 1 more

Sit him, no more SL. He's ready lol


He needs to increase his in game stamina. Let him play
Mitch looks great.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 10:35 pm : link
But I still want to see him develop an old-fashioned post-up game.
Mitch doing just fine  
Giantology : 7/5/2019 10:35 pm : link
Blocks a Zion 3 and then gets back for the dunk. Sick.
I don't no much about them...  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:36 pm : link
but 41 / Wooten's ups are pretty good. Tho he had an awful D sequence basically letting Zion get that dunk end 1st

#16 PG has made a few nice plays, decent looking J too. Is it Hinton? Not sure who that is
I just have this feeling  
Canton : 7/5/2019 10:36 pm : link
Robinson is going to explode this season.

That Dunk was sweet.
I think robinson  
dep026 : 7/5/2019 10:37 pm : link
Is going to lead the league in blocks and fouls. Man he’s aggressive defensively.
RE: RE: Mitch. Oop Dunk  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:37 pm : link
In comment 14492784 TommyWiseau said:
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then 1 more

Sit him, no more SL. He's ready lol


He needs to increase his in game stamina. Let him play

That was sarcasm (see 'lol')...But I'm with you
I should not  
GMEN46 : 7/5/2019 10:37 pm : link
Have said unathletic for Barrett, def not what I meant. Maybe not as athletic as I thought. I guess hard to tell when zions in the court.
Solid game for Trier  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 10:39 pm : link
Another guy they can probably just sit the rest of the league games
#16 is someone named Peters  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:40 pm : link
Knox was about to rock the rim right there

Trier's shot looking prettier (not just the makes, J looks smooth & controlled)
Interesting to hear RJ is trying new stuff on his corner 3.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 10:41 pm : link
When you do that, you take a step back to take a two steps forward. I'm good with that.
Trier's shooting percentages were excellent last season.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 10:43 pm : link
Just needs to work on the tunnel vision a bit.
Well, we're not seeing what we hoped to see from RJ  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 10:47 pm : link
but we're seeing a lot from some of the other key guys.
Barrett isn’t super explosive  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/5/2019 10:48 pm : link
But he’s silky smooth, has good size, and he can get up. I just love his footwork and touch near the rim, he’s just so advanced in the way he scores near the rim. But that outside shot needs to improve.

Blake Griffin is a comp I see for Zion often, and I’ve made it before too. But the way Zion can explosively drive to the rim from the perimeter is something Blake could never dream of. He’s gonna be so fun to watch, just praying that 285 lb frame for a 19 year old can last.
RE: Interesting to hear RJ is trying new stuff on his corner 3.  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:52 pm : link
In comment 14492807 81_Great_Dane said:
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When you do that, you take a step back to take a two steps forward. I'm good with that.

That's fine, always start w/ the 'easier' shot / play

But they really should start from scratch (really every rook if not all players). FTs & Js in the paint. Then move out further and further. Not to say you never practice distance, but start w/ easy ones and nail down the form. It's not easy, but it's simple & repetitive to work on. The 'right way' if you will
RE: Barrett isn’t super explosive  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:56 pm : link
In comment 14492814 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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But he’s silky smooth, has good size, and he can get up. I just love his footwork and touch near the rim, he’s just so advanced in the way he scores near the rim. But that outside shot needs to improve.

Blake Griffin is a comp I see for Zion often, and I’ve made it before too. But the way Zion can explosively drive to the rim from the perimeter is something Blake could never dream of. He’s gonna be so fun to watch, just praying that 285 lb frame for a 19 year old can last.

Agreed on both

Barrett is in the NBA because of NBA skills w/ an NBA physique at 19. He's not an uber athlete, but he is plenty athletic for this level, and can ball with the best of them with his skill set

Seems like RJ is just lo key right now. As they said, there's a slew of year 2 guys taking the reigns, which is actually good in terms of just letting him acclimate vs forcing him to produce or play a certain way. He has the game for this too, IMO doesn't have to be the scorer but still provide solid value (Esp if he focus on his D). Still work to be done no doubt...
Trier's shot, there it is again  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 10:57 pm : link
Could be wrong but it looks much smoother & easier than last yr
Zion done for the night.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 10:58 pm : link
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Are we about done  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 11:00 pm : link
letting Frank Jackson light us up?
RE: Zion done for the night.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 11:00 pm : link
In comment 14492830 bceagle05 said:
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This promises to be hilarious, as the ESPN team spends the next hour talking about a guy who is not playing and won't be playing tonight.
RE: RE: Zion done for the night.  
dep026 : 7/5/2019 11:01 pm : link
In comment 14492835 81_Great_Dane said:
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This promises to be hilarious, as the ESPN team spends the next hour talking about a guy who is not playing and won't be playing tonight.


If it quiets Doris Burke for 2 minutes, it’s worth it. She must be related to Tony Romo.
Knicks getting crushed the last few minutes -  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2019 11:05 pm : link
Knicks not playing team ball at all, but I guess that's summer league.
knicks look lazy  
TJ : 7/5/2019 11:06 pm : link
are these 2nd year guys getting the idea they can cruise in summer league?
Ugly 2nd half so far  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:06 pm : link
RJ showing a bit of his bad side, ball dom, blinders on. Tho he hasn't gotten too many calls on those physical drives

Almost everyone we complimented ran out of gas or went cold at once
RE: Knicks getting crushed the last few minutes -  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 11:07 pm : link
In comment 14492840 Del Shofner said:
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Knicks not playing team ball at all, but I guess that's summer league.
I had the same thought. Maybe at the next time out, remind them that the rules permit this thing called "passing." And there may be teammates who are "open."
Good shot of the three stooges thinking....  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/5/2019 11:08 pm : link
Oh shit...
And you hate to see the O drop off a bit...  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:08 pm : link
just to lead to low effort on D. Went from staying in contact on guys at least, to one-pass wide open shots. Awful even for rooks. Bball 101 stuff

Hey there Mrs Fiz...
Iggy is fearless.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 11:09 pm : link
Not good (yet), but fearless.
Trier has nothing to prove, gotta take him out to see  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/5/2019 11:12 pm : link
what the rest of the team can do.

Barrett needs to shoot a lot better to be effective. At least he’s not shy.
RE: Iggy is fearless.  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14492848 81_Great_Dane said:
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Not good (yet), but fearless.

What Knox needs to do once the real games start...and what disappeared mostly from his first SL stint

Knox on queue with a strong move in the paint
And Iggy w/ one simlilar  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:14 pm : link
just to prove you right

And a KNOX DUNK from RJ
Assuming that RJ is the real deal,  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 11:17 pm : link
tonight was good for him. To paraphrase Warren Zevon: The shit that worked at Duke, it won't work now.
Trae Young looked like crap in the summer league last  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/5/2019 11:18 pm : link
year too.

Has anyone else ever done that?  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:20 pm : link
Out jump the 'vertamax'? or better said, who historically had a 44-45" vert? Carter? MJ?

Not many, and few at 250+ I bet
wooten is an athletic freak  
nygiants16 : 7/5/2019 11:21 pm : link
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You can tell RJ is just trying to put on a show  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 11:21 pm : link
Like the fact that this is Zion's night bothers him so much that he's forcing a bunch of shots.


Awful game from him. There will be better ones, but poor showing from him. Same with Iggy.



This Wooten kid is really active
Oh wow. They just had a earthquake at the game.  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 11:21 pm : link
Game stopped.
earthquake!  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2019 11:21 pm : link
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They just had an earthquake in Vegas  
dpinzow : 7/5/2019 11:22 pm : link
no joke
That’s crazy.  
Beezer : 7/5/2019 11:22 pm : link
Wow.
yup  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:23 pm : link
that was a little bigger than the last one a few day back, here in LA anyway
I'm in L.A. and that was a bigger one than yesterday morning.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 11:24 pm : link
Very significant. Somebody just got a pretty big one.
evacuating the building  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2019 11:25 pm : link
seems like the prudent thing to do.
Okay, I laughed...seems like no one got hurt.  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 11:25 pm : link
"It is a damn shame that this Vegas earthquake we just felt didn't come moments after a Zion dunk. God missed an opportunity there."
RE: Okay, I laughed...seems like no one got hurt.  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2019 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14492872 Anakim said:
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"It is a damn shame that this Vegas earthquake we just felt didn't come moments after a Zion dunk. God missed an opportunity there."


That would have been classic.
7.1 in souther california  
nygiants16 : 7/5/2019 11:28 pm : link
..
7.1 magnitude on the Richter scale near Ridgecrest, CA  
dpinzow : 7/5/2019 11:28 pm : link
close to the same spot that got the 6.4 on the Richter a couple of days ago
Doris Burke wants out of the building.  
bceagle05 : 7/5/2019 11:29 pm : link
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looks like they are calling the game.  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2019 11:30 pm : link
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RE: Doris Burke wants out of the building.  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14492877 bceagle05 said:
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yeah, she's being pretty open about that!
RE: Okay, I laughed...seems like no one got hurt.  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14492872 Anakim said:
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"It is a damn shame that this Vegas earthquake we just felt didn't come moments after a Zion dunk. God missed an opportunity there."

I'm no Zion but my first quake, I was sitting on a top bunk and jumped off it started RIGHT then, i really was like "WTF, freshman 15 already"

And you could tell all the SoCalers in the room because they were calm, almost everyone else was freaking out
RE: Doris Burke wants out of the building.  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14492877 bceagle05 said:
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"Zion's not playing, what more is there for me to say?"
All this and a volcano erupting the other day  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 11:32 pm : link
God must not be happy. He's trying to burn us with the sun down here.
That's not an aftershock, the 6.4 a couple of days ago was a  
dpinzow : 7/5/2019 11:32 pm : link
foreshock. Aftershocks are not larger than the main quake
RE: looks like they are calling the game.  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14492878 Del Shofner said:
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So how does this count against the standings and the Knicks chances of winning the league? /s
They are thinking about continuing after the scoreboard stops  
dpinzow : 7/5/2019 11:34 pm : link
swaying. That's a bad idea. Call the game and send everyone home
On the other hand, the Padres and Dodgers just played  
dpinzow : 7/5/2019 11:36 pm : link
straight through the earthquake. No apparent damage at Dodger Stadium
RE: On the other hand, the Padres and Dodgers just played  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 11:37 pm : link
In comment 14492887 dpinzow said:
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straight through the earthquake. No apparent damage at Dodger Stadium


They're playing next door!
RE: That's not an aftershock, the 6.4 a couple of days ago was a  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14492884 dpinzow said:
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foreshock. Aftershocks are not larger than the main quake
This. Even the local news people here don't seem to know that. Downgraded to 6.9, which is still pretty damn big. Considering that a 7 is 10x a 6, the difference between a 6.4 yesterday and a 6.9 today is pretty big.
RE: They are thinking about continuing after the scoreboard stops  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2019 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14492886 dpinzow said:
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swaying. That's a bad idea. Call the game and send everyone home


That's what I think. But looks like the show may go on.

This announcer is basically begging to get out of the building.
Doris needs some Xanax  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 11:39 pm : link
I guess it's better than talking about Zion and LeBron
I've only experienced one earthquake in my life  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 11:40 pm : link
And it was a little tremor a few years ago in NYC.

Can't imagine you West Coasters having to deal with it on a somewhat regular basis...and wildfires, too.
ome good thing about tonight  
nygiants16 : 7/5/2019 11:40 pm : link
Julius Randle sounds really excited to be a knick
They are trying so hard to kill time, and not so good at it  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:40 pm : link
drink every time you hear the word "sway" or "swaying"

"there is no time limit on when it stops swaying, so we're still waiting on the swaying to stop. This are also swaying at Loyola Marymount"
Yeah, Doris is trying to keep it together, but you can tell by the  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 11:41 pm : link
sound of her voice that she's clearly shaken (no pun intended)
RE: I've only experienced one earthquake in my life  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14492893 Anakim said:
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And it was a little tremor a few years ago in NYC.

Can't imagine you West Coasters having to deal with it on a somewhat regular basis...and wildfires, too.


After sitting in my last house in pitch black in the middle of the night as my phone was sending off emergency signals, with the windows covered hearing winds of a hurricane (and later seeing that a tornado likely whipped down our street) I'd rather deal with an earthquake...
RE: I've only experienced one earthquake in my life  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14492893 Anakim said:
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And it was a little tremor a few years ago in NYC.

Can't imagine you West Coasters having to deal with it on a somewhat regular basis...and wildfires, too.

It's not that regular. 15 years in LA, no more than 10 that I felt? And of course those were all small. In that sense, WCers are baffled how people live in the snow, and that is an issue multiple times a year. I'd dare to say you're more likely to get in a car accident in the winter than injured in an LA quake (on avg!)

But clearly I'm about to go thru my first big one, we're due

Actually Albany had a few in the 4.0-5.0 range growing up. I felt one, but most were early AM and I slept through
RE: I've only experienced one earthquake in my life  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14492893 Anakim said:
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And it was a little tremor a few years ago in NYC.

Can't imagine you West Coasters having to deal with it on a somewhat regular basis...and wildfires, too.
Well, I've been through a few of them. A really big one is scary in its own right, but what really is unnerving is that aftershocks come almost continuously for a while. And after Northridge, I learned the worst word in the English language: "foreshock." As in, that could be a foreshock of a bigger quake. I remember yelling FORESHOCK????!!!

When they start, you don't know how big they're going to be. So you have that moment of "Oh shit, now what?" Then sometimes they get bigger, and sometimes they don't. This one started like "Oh, there's another one." And about 10 seconds later it was "Uh-oh." But it never got really bad. 100+ miles from the epicenter.
RE: RE: That's not an aftershock, the 6.4 a couple of days ago was a  
dpinzow : 7/5/2019 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14492890 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 14492884 dpinzow said:


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foreshock. Aftershocks are not larger than the main quake

This. Even the local news people here don't seem to know that. Downgraded to 6.9, which is still pretty damn big. Considering that a 7 is 10x a 6, the difference between a 6.4 yesterday and a 6.9 today is pretty big.


The scary part is that this one would be a foreshock as well if another quake larger than this occurred. That's pretty unlikely, but not impossible. A 6.4 and 6.9 on consecutive days would release a LOT of built up seismic energy along the same fault system
Good point on hurricanes  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:46 pm : link
I had fam that lived in Nevis (next to St Kitts, Antigua). They talked about boarding up the house, dealing with no power, and holing up every year, sometimes a few times
RE: Good point on hurricanes  
jgambrosio : 7/5/2019 11:49 pm : link
In comment 14492902 ChaChing said:
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I had fam that lived in Nevis (next to St Kitts, Antigua). They talked about boarding up the house, dealing with no power, and holing up every year, sometimes a few times


And the thing with hurricanes is that they're not exactly quick. I mean that one specifically at 3 in the morning, your sitting there for hours. Some could say "well you could have evacuated," and if we tried to go north, good luck. If we had gone west, the storm was even worse there. Hurricanes are scary shit if you get hit straight on and they're so unpredictable
The rest of the games tonight in Thomas and Mack are postponed  
dpinzow : 7/5/2019 11:49 pm : link
correct decision by the NBA
The quote I remember re: the 94 Northridge quake  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:50 pm : link
was a coworker describing how the floor basically fell a foot and made a huge rock breaking crashing sound below his feet

That would scare the shit out of me go figure
RE: RE: I've only experienced one earthquake in my life  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2019 11:51 pm : link
In comment 14492898 jgambrosio said:
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I'd rather deal with an earthquake...
Depends on the storm and the quake, and where you are. If you are near the ocean you never want to experience anything like the Japan quake and tsunami, that's one of the worst things you could go through.

The thing about a big earthquake is there's basically no warning and there's no such thing as an earthquake shelter. Your building either stands up to it or not. Your stuff is either secured or it isn't. Your walls crack or they don't.

There's a new ShakeAlertLA app that is supposed to go off and give us a little warning if there's a big (bigger than 3) quake centered in Los Angeles. It hasn't gone off because they say that the tremors locally weren't big enough. So they say it's working. But: How would we know if it wasn't?
RE: RE: Good point on hurricanes  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:53 pm : link
In comment 14492903 jgambrosio said:
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In comment 14492902 ChaChing said:
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I had fam that lived in Nevis (next to St Kitts, Antigua). They talked about boarding up the house, dealing with no power, and holing up every year, sometimes a few times


And the thing with hurricanes is that they're not exactly quick. I mean that one specifically at 3 in the morning, your sitting there for hours. Some could say "well you could have evacuated," and if we tried to go north, good luck. If we had gone west, the storm was even worse there. Hurricanes are scary shit if you get hit straight on and they're so unpredictable

Add to THAT, I swear the flight from St Kitts to Nevis was in an fn Dodge Caravan w/ wings. No joke, the pilot hands me a rope, tells me to hold tight as it's attached to the door that doesn't close. So the whole flight, I see a couple inches of daylight straight down to the water. It was like a 15 min flight but I would NEVER get in that on a cloudy day, much less near a hurricane. Rather hole up in the dark in my boarded up house!
Okay, can we please get Doris and Mark off the telecast?  
Anakim : 7/5/2019 11:54 pm : link
They're clearly freaking out and saying prayers on TV. They don't want to be there. Let them leave.
Actually this reminds me  
ChaChing : 7/5/2019 11:54 pm : link
even if it's those shit emergency packs / rations, I should get a few, and some water!
RE: ome good thing about tonight  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2019 11:58 pm : link
In comment 14492894 nygiants16 said:
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Julius Randle sounds really excited to be a knick


Agree about that. This may be a fun season even if we end up sub-.500.
Sorry  
RAIN : 7/5/2019 11:58 pm : link
Iggy? Who is Iggy?
RE: Sorry  
Del Shofner : 7/6/2019 12:00 am : link
In comment 14492911 RAIN said:
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Iggy? Who is Iggy?


Our second round pick from Michigan, a Lithuanian guy from Canada.
RE: Sorry  
ChaChing : 7/6/2019 12:00 am : link
In comment 14492911 RAIN said:
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Iggy? Who is Iggy?

Bradzeikis. Round 2 pick, from Mich. Shooter, w/ some rim attack, but not so athletic it seems
graceful exit speech by the male announcer -  
Del Shofner : 7/6/2019 12:07 am : link
Doris is just happy to get out alive.
Aaaannnnd we just felt another little one.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/6/2019 12:09 am : link
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RE: Actually this reminds me  
81_Great_Dane : 7/6/2019 12:11 am : link
In comment 14492909 ChaChing said:
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even if it's those shit emergency packs / rations, I should get a few, and some water!
We have a little bottled water in the house, but if we lose water for a few days, we're gonna be drinkin' a lotta wine. My wife likes wine, we have a bunch of it. Lots more than water.
The media bashing of RJ has started  
GMEN46 : 7/6/2019 12:26 am : link
I could care less about his shooting stats, like I mentioned earlier I always assumed he was a top notch in terms of pure athleticism and he is clearly not, does not mean he still cant be a superstar I just assumed he was a super fast athletic freak and he is def not. Reminds of Melo out of college athleticism. Certainly athletic enough, but if Lebron and Zion are a 10 when it comes to athleticism, I would put Barrett in that 6-7 range. I’m not bashing him, just was surprised by this.
RJ was hideous.  
bceagle05 : 7/6/2019 12:31 am : link
First game action, facing Zion, Lebron courtside - nerves are understandable. I'm sure we'll get a solid showing next game.
If there's a better representation of the last 20 years of the Knicks  
Stu11 : 7/6/2019 12:32 am : link
than tonight you have to convince me lol.
I tried to tell you people  
Greg from LI : 7/6/2019 1:23 am : link
I watched at least a dozen Duke games. Why some of you kept insisting that Barrett is some kind of explosive fast-twitch guy, I'll never know. His shooting certainly was exactly what I expected.

Mitch is so much fun to watch on defense. A 7'1" guy with pogo sticks for legs who genuinely loves to play D. Kenny Wooten is too, though I'm not expecting him to show enough at the other end of the floor to make it.

Knox looked pretty good. I really do think he'll take a step forward this year. Brazdekis looked just as overmatched as I expected. Really don't get that pick at all.
With Barrett  
XBRONX : 7/6/2019 7:02 am : link
starting, I believe the Knicks will have the worst free throw shooting starting lineup in the league.
Maybe they'll surprise me, but I'm getting ready for another awful  
Ira : 7/6/2019 7:09 am : link
Knicks season.
People bashing Barrett over a Summer League game  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/6/2019 7:09 am : link
and the media acting like Zion played like a superstar... how am I not surprised?
Barrett has big flaws in his game  
Oscar : 7/6/2019 7:16 am : link
It’s fine, he’s a kid and has plenty of time to work on things. Just hope Fiz is the right guy to lead his development.
RE: I tried to tell you people  
Joey in VA : 7/6/2019 8:37 am : link
In comment 14492926 Greg from LI said:
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I watched at least a dozen Duke games. Why some of you kept insisting that Barrett is some kind of explosive fast-twitch guy, I'll never know. His shooting certainly was exactly what I expected.

Mitch is so much fun to watch on defense. A 7'1" guy with pogo sticks for legs who genuinely loves to play D. Kenny Wooten is too, though I'm not expecting him to show enough at the other end of the floor to make it.

Knox looked pretty good. I really do think he'll take a step forward this year. Brazdekis looked just as overmatched as I expected. Really don't get that pick at all.
I sadly agree. I didn't watch a ton of him in college but he looked like a completely average player who can't shoot. I didn't see anything athletic that gives me a ton of hope, he's going to have to hone his jumper to even be an Allan Houston.
First, we find out that Barrett isn't a good shooter. Now, we learn  
Ira : 7/6/2019 8:43 am : link
that he's an average athlete. So, what is it that he does so well that made him the Knick's choice for the 3rd pick in the draft?
Barrett  
Jon in NYC : 7/6/2019 9:16 am : link
did not play well yesterday. He did get open looks though and they didn't fall. It happens. Hopefully it isn't a trend, but his stats at Duke suggest it may be.

We'll see.
whew...  
Italianju : 7/6/2019 9:18 am : link
glad to see nobody jumped to conclusions after one summer league game.

Im assuming we also have decided that Zion cant do anything but dunk?
Remember how bad Trae Young was in Summer League last year?  
Mike in NJ : 7/6/2019 9:20 am : link
And Kevin Knox looked like he was going to be Rookie of the Year. You can't draw any conclusions from Summer League either way.
RE: whew...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/6/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14493031 Italianju said:
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glad to see nobody jumped to conclusions after one summer league game.

Im assuming we also have decided that Zion cant do anything but dunk?


No, because he's not a Knick and stupid reactionary career epitaphs are only for Knicks players.
Donovan Mitchell was 5 for 15....  
Italianju : 7/6/2019 9:26 am : link
in his first summer league game. Thank god he wasnt a knick. Could Barrett have issues sure, but to act like last night confirmed everything and thats what he is so dumb its absurd. Last night means absolutely nothing, and this is the same thing that the anti barrett crown would be preaching if he was 9 for 13 and dropped 23.
I sort of warmed up to Barrett knowing he’d be the pick.  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/6/2019 9:28 am : link
But he looked slow and a bad shot yesterday. The pass to Knox was sweet though.

Even with a beer gut Zion showed short area quickness that Barrett simply doesn’t have. We know Barrett is more crafty than explosive, but he will need to be a lot more shifty to get by people in the league. And the shot needs to get a lot better.
Barrett has a good game, ehh it is only summer league  
nygiants16 : 7/6/2019 9:29 am : link
he has bad game welp he is going to be a bust, see he cant shoot, not athletic, he is going to be bad...
RE: RE: I tried to tell you people  
ColHowPepper : 7/6/2019 10:13 am : link
In comment 14493006 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 14492926 Greg from LI said:
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I watched at least a dozen Duke games. Why some of you kept insisting that Barrett is some kind of explosive fast-twitch guy, I'll never know. His shooting certainly was exactly what I expected.//////

I sadly agree. I didn't watch a ton of him in college but he looked like a completely average player who can't shoot. I didn't see anything athletic that gives me a ton of hope, he's going to have to hone his jumper to even be an Allan Houston.
I don't watch a ton of b-ball, college (except the tournament) or pros. But on draft night, with all the hoopla surrounding RJ, I was expecting to see a stellar athlete, floor player, all around capable at the 2. I was shocked that I didn't see any of that on display in the highlights after the foregone conclusion pick was made.

So, uncharacteristically, I recorded last night. I didn't expect to see Quake reports! I watched most of the 1st half. And nerves or not, his clumsy attack in the paint early Q2, his shooting stroke (fair), movement (I thought slow and labored), I'm afraid the Knicks got it wrong again. Yes, of course it's a shoot from the hip after one meaningless summer game, but I just didn't see the athleticism, smoothness, or quicks from this player. smh
I don't love RJ but  
bceagle05 : 7/6/2019 10:29 am : link
a lot of smart people would have to be dead wrong about this guy if he's not a legit starter in the league. Trusting the Knicks to develop him, however, is a cause for concern.
and people wonder why players do not want to come to the knicks  
nygiants16 : 7/6/2019 10:33 am : link
kid is getting killed after 1 freaking summer league game, dear lord
RE: and people wonder why players do not want to come to the knicks  
jgambrosio : 7/6/2019 10:45 am : link
In comment 14493097 nygiants16 said:
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kid is getting killed after 1 freaking summer league game, dear lord


It's really just Duke haters, nets fans and people who irrationally hated the Knicks moves/decisions the past week
RE: and people wonder why players do not want to come to the knicks  
adamg : 7/6/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14493097 nygiants16 said:
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kid is getting killed after 1 freaking summer league game, dear lord


Seriously.

I'm off BBI and out of sports for a day, and now RJ is a bust already.

It's so easy to hate.
Classic BBI  
BigBlueShock : 7/6/2019 12:07 pm : link
Blaming the fans for hyping RJ, yet there’s not a single team in the NBA that would have taken anyone other than RJ in that spot.

It’s all the fans fault! Greg tried telling you! You didn’t listen and you drafted him!
RJ has always  
Jon in NYC : 7/6/2019 12:14 pm : link
been a plus but not special athlete. What makes him a potential all star is his skill level. He gets to the rim very often where he can finish or gets fouled, and can pass and rebound at a high level.

That said, there are clear things he's going to need to fix and quickly if he wants to get better:

1. Going to the right/finishing with his right hand
2. All aspects of shooting, but especially 3pt and FT
3. Not getting tunnel vision when going to the lane.

Fortunately all three things are fixable, are not new issues, and given his rumored work ethic, should be things that will improve.
This  
Jon in NYC : 7/6/2019 12:20 pm : link
is also a hot take, but I thought Zion looked super meh yesterday. He's so limited at range that he's going to need to probably play the 4 or 5 next level. Mitch gave him quite a few problems.

Also impressed with Kevin Knox. 3 3s, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks in only 25 minutes. More importantly he looked more in control and calmer out there.
Exactly my fear  
PhilSimms15 : 7/6/2019 12:20 pm : link
One bad game and RJ is a bust. He is not athletic, he can’t shoot and he can’t pass.

One game. Let’s disregard four years where he was the number one prospect in two countries. Let’s forget that at Duke, he averaged nearly 23 points a game, 8 rebounds and nearly 5 assists.

It’s not just the media, Knick fans are really knee jerk when it comes to their teams.

Nate Robinson was a summer league sensation as was Kevin Knox.

Carmelo Anthony shot 4 of 11 and scored 12 points in his first game and in the same game Nikoloz Tskitishvili scored 25.

Derek Rose averaged under 10 points and shot under 30% in his Summer League season.

Kevin Durant shot 5 for 17 in his Summer League debut with one rebound and zero assists. He shot 33 percent for the entire league.

Can we give the kid two Summer League games before we decide he is a bust?
To me getting to the rim scoring / finding teammates  
NoGainDayne : 7/6/2019 12:45 pm : link
for good looks is the thing you can’t learn.

You can’t really learn athleticism but the league has been full of all stars at his level of athleticism especially with the above skills. Not to mention his good size for the position he plays helps with that.

What you can learn is how to shoot better with commitment to that. And he seems to be a guy that has the right attitude to do it.

Love how he owned wanting to play in NY as well.

Don’t love this Knicks offseason, don’t hate it either. But there seems to be some talks like the Knicks are so bad that it automatically creates a future that RJ is too. I get the pessimism with luring free agents and treating our stars well but some people go to far
RE: This  
jgambrosio : 7/6/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14493188 Jon in NYC said:
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is also a hot take, but I thought Zion looked super meh yesterday. He's so limited at range that he's going to need to probably play the 4 or 5 next level. Mitch gave him quite a few problems.

Also impressed with Kevin Knox. 3 3s, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks in only 25 minutes. More importantly he looked more in control and calmer out there.


The best part about both these guys playing the games they did? The fact that the media is hanging onto the Zion rip from Knox and dunk, so everyone thinks Knox is a bum and Zion is a superstar already.
Guys used to running set offense  
RAIN : 7/6/2019 2:57 pm : link
Will struggle a bit in a systemless game. Guys confident enough to work on weaknesses won’t look good in game situations.
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