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Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 10:11 am


Valera, starting at second today, was claimed off waivers from the Giants in May and was added to the 40 man.

TB
Travis d'Arnaud (R) 1B
Tommy Pham (R) LF
Yandy Diaz (R) 3B
Avisail Garcia (R) RF
Nate Lowe (L) DH
Michael Brosseau (R) 2B
Willy Adames (R) SS
Kevin Kiermaier (L) CF
Mike Zunino (R) C

Paxton vs. Morton
Much needed rest for  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2019 10:27 am : link
DJLM and Torres. Guaranteed at least a split, but picking up a win here would be nice. Paxton needs to get locked in soon, hope it starts today.
Oh and  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 10:34 am : link
I need a friggin vacation from the Disney vacation.....
RE: Oh and  
dune69 : 7/7/2019 10:39 am : link
In comment 14493577 Jints in Carolina said:
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I need a friggin vacation from the Disney vacation.....


Disney vacations are exhausting. Hang in there.
We had a great time but it was so damn hot  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 10:44 am : link
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Valera has been raking at SWB  
JPinstripes : 7/7/2019 10:50 am : link
Maybe another find for Cash and NYY...

Conor Foley
‏ @RailRidersTT
45m45 minutes ago

In 50 games with the RailRiders, Breyvic Valera batted .348/.419/.564 (151 wRC+) with 10 doubles, nine home runs and 31 RBIs. He walked more times (19) than he struck out (18). Had 17 multi-hit games.
RE: We had a great time but it was so damn hot  
dune69 : 7/7/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14493590 Jints in Carolina said:
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I live 40 miles from Disney. Heat is a way of life but us northerners never get used to it, though you probably get your share in Charlotte. At Disney, there is little relief from the sun.
RE: RE: Oh and  
section125 : 7/7/2019 10:56 am : link
In comment 14493585 dune69 said:
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In comment 14493577 Jints in Carolina said:


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I need a friggin vacation from the Disney vacation.....



Disney vacations are exhausting. Hang in there.


Damn, I live down here and trips to Disney are exhausting and in the summer you need to take a break after lunch and go back around 4 pm...you cannot drink enough water.

Oh, and welcome back!
Dude has been raking in AAA Scranton  
GiantJake : 7/7/2019 10:56 am : link
He's no kid, he's 27 and has had a few cups of coffee in the bigs. Switch hitter, plays 3B, 2B, SS and a little OF. Hitting .348 in 50 games at AAA Scranton More walks than K's. Hopefully, he is another useful, experienced, hungry role player available on the Scranton shuttle for the stretch run.
RE: We had a great time but it was so damn hot  
Stu11 : 7/7/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14493590 Jints in Carolina said:
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3 or 4 years ago we took the kids there in August. It was like Hades on earth.
Tonight's MLB Futures Games  
YANKEE28 : 7/7/2019 11:21 am : link
just announced that the starting pitcher for the American League team will be the Yankees 20 year old Deivi Garcia.

Game is on the MLB Network at 7 pm tonight.
RE: RE: We had a great time but it was so damn hot  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 11:32 am : link
In comment 14493600 dune69 said:
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I live 40 miles from Disney. Heat is a way of life but us northerners never get used to it, though you probably get your share in Charlotte. At Disney, there is little relief from the sun.


Raleigh not Charlotte but yep we get swamp ass down here as well.
section125  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 11:33 am : link
We would go to the parks early in the AM...eat lunch around 11 to beat the crowds, and then about 1 or 2 we would go back to the hotel for pool and/or a nap and then go back in the evening.
RE: section125  
Stu11 : 7/7/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14493623 Jints in Carolina said:
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We would go to the parks early in the AM...eat lunch around 11 to beat the crowds, and then about 1 or 2 we would go back to the hotel for pool and/or a nap and then go back in the evening.

We went to the water parks in the morning/early afternoon and then the other parks later in the afternoon
RE: section125  
section125 : 7/7/2019 11:56 am : link
In comment 14493623 Jints in Carolina said:
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We would go to the parks early in the AM...eat lunch around 11 to beat the crowds, and then about 1 or 2 we would go back to the hotel for pool and/or a nap and then go back in the evening.


Only way to handle the heat. Almost exactly the way we did it. That pool at the hotel is a God send.
RE: RE: section125  
section125 : 7/7/2019 11:58 am : link
In comment 14493643 Stu11 said:
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We would go to the parks early in the AM...eat lunch around 11 to beat the crowds, and then about 1 or 2 we would go back to the hotel for pool and/or a nap and then go back in the evening.


We went to the water parks in the morning/early afternoon and then the other parks later in the afternoon


Another way to do it. But the lines, the Sun straight up, the Brazilians, the Asians - need relief from it all.
The website  
YANKEE28 : 7/7/2019 12:18 pm : link
Pinstriped Prospects just released their mid-season report on the Top 100 Yankees prospects.
Link - ( New Window )
LOL I do think half of Brazil was at Disney  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 1:09 pm : link
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RE: The website  
Deejboy : 7/7/2019 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14493668 YANKEE28 said:
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Pinstriped Prospects just released their mid-season report on the Top 100 Yankees prospects. Link - ( New Window )

Luis Gil at #3. That was a nightmare trade for the Twins. Gil was a 19 year old IFA who sat 92mph and had missed all of 2016. They liked Jake Cave and were willing to trade a lottery card in Gil to get him. Cave looks to be a AAAA OFer. Great numbers at AA and AAA. Can't do anything in the majors. Gil then went from sitting 92mph to now sitting 98mph with the Yankees and touching 101. His curveball is a spin rate juggernaut and his change has gotten a lot better. He has been he best pitcher in the SAL league and leads the league in ERA and Ks.

The Yankees have a ridiculous amount of talented young pitchers from Latin American in their system but Gil might end up being the best.
RE: Much needed rest for  
nygnyy274 : 7/7/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14493569 UConn4523 said:
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DJLM and Torres. Guaranteed at least a split, but picking up a win here would be nice. Paxton needs to get locked in soon, hope it starts today.


22 years old and will be off tomorrow play two innings Tuesday off Wednesday and Thursday. Much needed rest lol.
fucking paxton  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 1:24 pm : link
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Oldest  
nygnyy274 : 7/7/2019 1:25 pm : link
guy who needs rest the most (Gardner) seems to never get a rest. If he can play a lot then the young guys certainly can.
Looks like our All-Star break has begun.  
bceagle05 : 7/7/2019 1:25 pm : link
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Paxton, as seems his usual,  
section125 : 7/7/2019 1:33 pm : link
is unprepared to start the game.

And how does a player, 27 y/o, who has played baseball his entire life not know how he has to cover 2nd base, since you know, he is the 2nd base man. Why would you go to 1st base?

And, WTF is he up and Estrada is not?
Maple  
GruningsOnTheHill : 7/7/2019 1:35 pm : link
Is this guy playing through an injury, or does he just suck?
Gardner with another HR  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 1:36 pm : link
the ball is juiced.
Gardy on fire  
dune69 : 7/7/2019 1:37 pm : link
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Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 1:39 pm : link
Joe Maddon on the difference in the baseballs: You could just have stamped Titleist on the side of these things.
RE: Oldest  
section125 : 7/7/2019 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14493767 nygnyy274 said:
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guy who needs rest the most (Gardner) seems to never get a rest. If he can play a lot then the young guys certainly can.


Nicely called. The old man and "smallest' Yankee keeps mashing.
RE: .  
section125 : 7/7/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14493784 Jints in Carolina said:
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Joe Maddon on the difference in the baseballs: You could just have stamped Titleist on the side of these things.


Well maybe Pinnacle....hard as a rock - goes far.
They had an astrophysicist on MLB Radio who is a big baseball fan  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 1:48 pm : link
last week while we we heading down to Florida and she said the ball is definitely different. Seams are larger and thicker and the ball seems smaller and more round.
Another low  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2019 1:57 pm : link
3rd strike for Judge, haha
another horrible called strike against Judge  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 1:57 pm : link
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Electronic strikes  
jgambrosio : 7/7/2019 1:58 pm : link
Say what
Garbage.  
bceagle05 : 7/7/2019 1:58 pm : link
Ruins the entire fucking inning.
The ball was mid shin  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2019 1:58 pm : link
unreal
Enough of this shit.  
section125 : 7/7/2019 1:59 pm : link
They should be fined when the blow one that bad. That pitches was always low never near a strike.
And for judge to say something with his eye  
jgambrosio : 7/7/2019 1:59 pm : link
The ump has to know he fucked up
electronic umps cant get here soon enough  
wigs in nyc : 7/7/2019 2:00 pm : link
how are these guys supposed to play?
RE: another horrible called strike against Judge  
Eman11 : 7/7/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14493792 Jints in Carolina said:
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It's unreal how these umps won't adjust "their" strike zones for a guy who's 6'7". We saw one ump earlier this week who did but he's been the only one I can remember all year who did.

It's supposed to be the batters strike zone not the umps, and I'm all in to bring on the electronic strike zone. So tired of these guys being incompetent.
With Boone riding his ass  
section125 : 7/7/2019 2:05 pm : link
between innings and not getting tossed, Caripazza has to know he was wrong. Cost the Yankees a run on what would have been a sac fly.
Umpires havent grown with the game at all  
beatrixkiddo : 7/7/2019 2:07 pm : link
They should go the way of the Elevator Operator, no longer needed when a computer can do it much better.
watching Morton  
RasputinPrime : 7/7/2019 2:11 pm : link
I really want to know how the Rays appear to be the only franchise that weren't scared of Morton. He has been insanely valuable.
Paxton must throw 50% of his  
section125 : 7/7/2019 2:23 pm : link
FBs 6 inches inside. It won't get hit, but it won't get any swings either.
i've noticed the team generally  
RasputinPrime : 7/7/2019 2:34 pm : link
swinging at more pitches out of the zone. I wish we had a camera more like the Rays that gives the viewer a cleaner angle to the plate. Much easier to see the spin on the ball and where it actually crosses the plate.
RE: watching Morton  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14493807 RasputinPrime said:
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I really want to know how the Rays appear to be the only franchise that weren't scared of Morton. He has been insanely valuable.


Morton was fantastic in Houston.
Gary needs  
RasputinPrime : 7/7/2019 2:48 pm : link
someone to remind him to go to RF. All his funks have him hacking and trying to pull everything.
games with this many strikeouts  
RasputinPrime : 7/7/2019 2:52 pm : link
sure are exciting.

pass the beer-nuts.
Bit panicky to take Morton out here  
Greg from LI : 7/7/2019 2:54 pm : link
Yeah, Gardner's hot, but Morton was dominating and only at 75 pitches.
RE: Bit panicky to take Morton out here  
section125 : 7/7/2019 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14493821 Greg from LI said:
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Yeah, Gardner's hot, but Morton was dominating and only at 75 pitches.


It worked...They got some solid wood on Morton, but could not complete the deal.

As Paxton gives up another leadoff hit.
So tired of struggling against this shitty lineup  
Greg from LI : 7/7/2019 3:02 pm : link
It worked in that instance, but I'm perfectly happy with them going to the pen this early.
Sure would be nice to get that pitch that was called strike 3  
Greg from LI : 7/7/2019 3:04 pm : link
On Judge, but nope, it's a ball when Tampa's up
great job by Paxton to get out of that  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 3:11 pm : link
their bullpen can be had now.
Paxton with a huge  
section125 : 7/7/2019 3:11 pm : link
finish....
Now touch up this Rays pen...
Nice job by Paxton today  
Stu11 : 7/7/2019 3:12 pm : link
after those first few hitters in the first (including horseshoe up his ass D'arnoud'd cheap 14 hop double)
Another 2 strike leadoff  
section125 : 7/7/2019 3:24 pm : link
base hit....
By fucking Kiermaier again  
Greg from LI : 7/7/2019 3:31 pm : link
Guy sucks ass, so of course they can't get him out
Getting late early, men  
GruningsOnTheHill : 7/7/2019 3:37 pm : link
Getting late early.
Hicks is not a leadoff  
section125 : 7/7/2019 3:39 pm : link
batter.
Has Boone's D lineup rest period  
section125 : 7/7/2019 3:42 pm : link
finally met its match?

This is the one game he probably should not have pulled so many starters with the AS break coming. And why they would bring up Valera (who at this point has cost them the game) instead of Estrada.
the last 2 games offensively  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 3:43 pm : link
have sucked.
RE: the last 2 games offensively  
NYerInMA : 7/7/2019 3:52 pm : link
In comment 14493854 Jints in Carolina said:
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have sucked.


Yeah I've been very disappointed by the at-bats in yesterday and today.
I think we all need the all star break  
Jints in Carolina : 7/7/2019 4:08 pm : link
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While he was resting everyone  
Stu11 : 7/7/2019 4:12 pm : link
Booney sure could have given us all a rest from watching 4 more awful ab's by EE
Pathetic job by the offense.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/7/2019 4:13 pm : link
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I just don't understand Boone's  
section125 : 7/7/2019 4:14 pm : link
lineup today.
Why do you gift a game to the Rays when you had a foot on their throat?

Hope someone asks him about Valera being up.

Gary might need a break from the All Star game.

That blown third strike instead of a walk to Judge may very well have cost them the game.
Great job  
Mike Graves : 7/7/2019 4:17 pm : link
of not having DJ and Torres in the lineup...and the surging Sanchez and The Parakeet keep up their hotless hitting..
Yea Boone treating this like a ST game  
Stu11 : 7/7/2019 4:20 pm : link
With that lineup including pulling Valera off the Giants reject wagon was mind boggling especially with 4 days off coming up. Even the all star position guys give me a break. They're gonna fly to Cleveland hang out and play a few innings tuesday.

Thank God 22 year old Gleyber Torres got a day...  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/7/2019 4:25 pm : link
a day before the All Star Break......
*a day off  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/7/2019 4:25 pm : link
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No bats...  
M.S. : 7/7/2019 4:25 pm : link

...no win.

Oh, well.

A split would have been fine before the series started.

But after winning the first two?

Not so fine.

Where was Torres?

WHere was DJ?

Boonie pulls a boner.

RE: Thank God 22 year old Gleyber Torres got a day...  
section125 : 7/7/2019 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14493874 Dave in Hoboken said:
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a day before the All Star Break......


35 y/o Brett Gardner who was signed as a backup for this year has played more games than anyone else - 83. Torres is 2nd with 80 or 81.
RE: RE: Thank God 22 year old Gleyber Torres got a day...  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/7/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14493878 section125 said:
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a day before the All Star Break......



35 y/o Brett Gardner who was signed as a backup for this year has played more games than anyone else - 83. Torres is 2nd with 80 or 81.


Haha, that's funny. Oh well. Glad Torres got his day of rest before the Break.
Why do you guys complain about the lineup  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2019 4:35 pm : link
and why do you only blame Boone when doing so? The team you root for has its own philosophy on prepping for 162. Its going to be the same next year and the year after. Time to simply accept it.

You cant enjoy our tear despite the injuries and also hate when a less than ideal lineup is trotted out to give players rest. The Yankees dont want their stars, even the young ones, playing much more than 150 games. Thats not even taking into account the injuries that are played through where extra rest is needed.
Because sometimes it's a tad ridiculous  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/7/2019 4:36 pm : link
and today is one of those days. Accept the occasional complaining. It's going to continue if you read these threads daily.
RE: Because sometimes it's a tad ridiculous  
Jay in Toronto : 7/7/2019 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14493882 Dave in Hoboken said:
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and today is one of those days. Accept the occasional complaining. It's going to continue if you read these threads daily.


The complaining is more than occasional when we aren't winning. It seems occasional cause we've been mostly winning.

It is tiresome. At this point I still value the comments by many of the posters that add real substance and I would hate to give that up.

BTW, last winter I complained about the recent practice of a single Rangers thread that accumulated numerous games and made reading unwieldy.

I was reminded that a hockey season has many more games than a football season.

Didn't think that was a good argument then, and think it less so inlight of baseball.


RE: RE: Because sometimes it's a tad ridiculous  
adamg : 7/7/2019 5:53 pm : link
In comment 14493904 Jay in Toronto said:
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and today is one of those days. Accept the occasional complaining. It's going to continue if you read these threads daily.



The complaining is more than occasional when we aren't winning. It seems occasional cause we've been mostly winning.

It is tiresome. At this point I still value the comments by many of the posters that add real substance and I would hate to give that up.

BTW, last winter I complained about the recent practice of a single Rangers thread that accumulated numerous games and made reading unwieldy.

I was reminded that a hockey season has many more games than a football season.

Didn't think that was a good argument then, and think it less so inlight of baseball.



It really is ridiculous. If I were a Mets fan I would loathe some of these Yankees fans' expectation of a 162-0 season.
RE: Because sometimes it's a tad ridiculous  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2019 5:54 pm : link
In comment 14493882 Dave in Hoboken said:
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and today is one of those days. Accept the occasional complaining. It's going to continue if you read these threads daily.


Doesnt bother me, just kinda baffles me that people keep questioning it amidst the first half the Yankees just had, a year after winning 100 games applying the same methods.

Their data is better than yours (the fans), Im going to side with that. This isnt trusting the Yankees on a whim, theyve implemented a winning model with the goal of being sustainable each and every year and so far its working. The goal is to get to the playoffs healthy, this increases those odds.
Paxton pitches a gem  
adamg : 7/7/2019 5:55 pm : link
but people are getting caught up in a day off for some of the bigger bats, as if we're fucking up big time.

Very little light, but a lot of heat.
Needed a split, got a split  
Stan in LA : 7/7/2019 6:01 pm : link
Mission Accomplished.
RE: Needed a split, got a split  
M.S. : 7/7/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14493911 Stan in LA said:
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Mission Accomplished.


A split would have been fine before the series started. But after winning the first two? Not so fine. Mission aborted.
RE: Why do you guys complain about the lineup  
Eman11 : 7/7/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14493881 UConn4523 said:
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and why do you only blame Boone when doing so? The team you root for has its own philosophy on prepping for 162. Its going to be the same next year and the year after. Time to simply accept it.

You cant enjoy our tear despite the injuries and also hate when a less than ideal lineup is trotted out to give players rest. The Yankees dont want their stars, even the young ones, playing much more than 150 games. Thats not even taking into account the injuries that are played through where extra rest is needed.


Because while we get all that, today didn't seem like the smartest day to go analytics,IMO. We have the AS Game coming up for rest and if they weren't playing their closest division rival, I wouldn't have a problem with the lineup.

We had TB on the ropes with a chance to put our feet squarely on their throats. Today was a two game swing and I think we should be putting our best out there when playing our closest division competitors. Save the rest for games not against TB or the Sox.
Certainly fine if you think that  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2019 7:07 pm : link
but Im still defaulting to an additional day off for guys even with the ASB. You dont know what injuries are nagging, and getting that 4th or 5th day off can be the difference between a strain here or there turning into a sprain. The Yankees are also looking at who else can step up and be a viable backup for the 2nd half of the season.

We really dont have much info to go off of. Im sure theres a very real and deliberate reason for the lineup.
Nice 1-2-3  
Jay in Toronto : 7/7/2019 7:17 pm : link
by Devi a K and two pop-ups.

Works quickly. Seems very poised.
Deivi Garcia promoted by Yankees  
YANKEE28 : 7/7/2019 7:34 pm : link
Great 1st inning for Garcia.

Following his appearance, he was just notified by the Yankees to fly to Scranton after the Futures Game.

Deivi Garcia will who turned 20 on May 19th, will now be they youngest player in AAA ball.

Congrats !!
RE: Why do you guys complain about the lineup  
section125 : 7/7/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14493881 UConn4523 said:
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and why do you only blame Boone when doing so? The team you root for has its own philosophy on prepping for 162. Its going to be the same next year and the year after. Time to simply accept it.

You cant enjoy our tear despite the injuries and also hate when a less than ideal lineup is trotted out to give players rest. The Yankees dont want their stars, even the young ones, playing much more than 150 games. Thats not even taking into account the injuries that are played through where extra rest is needed.


UConn, they are still getting hurt even with the extra rest. I'm not against resting players. It is a very good idea. They have won more than they lost with the diminshed lineup. But when the players are getting multiple days off, there is really no urgency to rest a player today. I did not like gifting a game to the Rays.

But my biggest issue is bringing up Valera instead of Estrada. And the dumbass covered the wrong base. That allowed a runner to advance to the base he was supposed to be covering. It is a play about every freakin' Little Leaguer and certainly Babe Ruth League and HS player knows that either the SS or 2nd baseman covers 2nd base depending on which one becomes the cutoff man. He is 27 years old. Been a pro for years. He allowed the Rays player to take 2nd and that runner scored the winning run.
RE: Deivi Garcia promoted by Yankees  
dune69 : 7/7/2019 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14493951 YANKEE28 said:
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Great 1st inning for Garcia.

Following his appearance, he was just notified by the Yankees to fly to Scranton after the Futures Game.

Deivi Garcia will who turned 20 on May 19th, will now be they youngest player in AAA ball.

Congrats !!


Great news about Scranton. This kid has special written all over him. Love to watch him pitch.
Right and you are reacting as a fan  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2019 7:44 pm : link
not as a GM/Manager who has countless factors that go into each and every lineup. I couldnt tell you why he went with scalers, but do you think he just woke up and felt like it? And be mad at Valera for his fuckup, not Boone.

Ive never been one to nitpick the day to day of baseball operations, seems utterly pointless. Ill question/debate macro level moves like trading for Stanton, not making a big play for Machado/Harper, bringing back Happ, etc. but daily lineups is just a waste of time and isnt backed by any actual data that a fan could possess.
RE: Deivi Garcia promoted by Yankees  
Ryan in Albany : 7/7/2019 7:44 pm : link
In comment 14493951 YANKEE28 said:
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Great 1st inning for Garcia.

Following his appearance, he was just notified by the Yankees to fly to Scranton after the Futures Game.

Deivi Garcia will who turned 20 on May 19th, will now be they youngest player in AAA ball.

Congrats !!



Fast track! Awesome!
One 97 from Deivi, mostly 93-95s. Curve is a 12-to-6.  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/7/2019 8:08 pm : link
DL Hall and Dustin May looked good too.
Guys what is Garcia projection  
dep026 : 7/7/2019 8:46 pm : link
Was offered him and wander Franco in my dynasty league for Yates and greinke
RE: Certainly fine if you think that  
Eman11 : 7/7/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14493939 UConn4523 said:
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but Im still defaulting to an additional day off for guys even with the ASB. You dont know what injuries are nagging, and getting that 4th or 5th day off can be the difference between a strain here or there turning into a sprain. The Yankees are also looking at who else can step up and be a viable backup for the 2nd half of the season.

We really dont have much info to go off of. Im sure theres a very real and deliberate reason for the lineup.


No doubt there's a lot of merit to what you're saying and given how well they've done in this and last regular season, I can't really argue with their approach.

However, while there probably was a very real and deliberate reason for today's lineup, I have a hard time thinking one of those reasons was this was our best chance of winning today vs the Rays.

Personally, I'd just rather they go for it as much as possible vs their closest Divison opponents and use the rest against other teams. I think we gave TB a bit of life going into the break when we had the chance to keep them down.
Deivi sure has been promoted aggressively this season  
RasputinPrime : 7/7/2019 9:06 pm : link
we don't see that very often. I wonder why they are intent on getting him to AAA this season when it would be shock to see him up with the big club before next year at the earliest.
RE: RE: Because sometimes it's a tad ridiculous  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/7/2019 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14493907 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14493882 Dave in Hoboken said:


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and today is one of those days. Accept the occasional complaining. It's going to continue if you read these threads daily.



Doesnt bother me, just kinda baffles me that people keep questioning it amidst the first half the Yankees just had, a year after winning 100 games applying the same methods.

Their data is better than yours (the fans), Im going to side with that. This isnt trusting the Yankees on a whim, theyve implemented a winning model with the goal of being sustainable each and every year and so far its working. The goal is to get to the playoffs healthy, this increases those odds.


I get it, and I agree. But I think series circumstances were alittle different. It's the team that's in 2nd place behind us in the division, and we had a chance to step on their throat and create more seperation from 1st place to 2nd place.

If it was just come random series against the White Sox or something, I don't think anyone would care at all. This though, was alittle different.

Either way, it's not a big deal. Still split the series but alittle more distance would've been nice. Oh well. No biggie.
RE: Guys what is Garcia projection  
Kyle in NY : 7/7/2019 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14493996 dep026 said:
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Was offered him and wander Franco in my dynasty league for Yates and greinke


Kirby Yates? You have a contending team? Otherwise that would seem like a no brainer. Franco is going to be a star and each could be in the majors at some point next season Deivi is shooting up prospect rankings

Admittedly Im not experienced in dynasty fantasy baseball
RE: RE: Guys what is Garcia projection  
dep026 : 7/7/2019 9:16 pm : link
In comment 14494014 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 14493996 dep026 said:


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Was offered him and wander Franco in my dynasty league for Yates and greinke



Kirby Yates? You have a contending team? Otherwise that would seem like a no brainer. Franco is going to be a star and each could be in the majors at some point next season Deivi is shooting up prospect rankings

Admittedly Im not experienced in dynasty fantasy baseball


I can keep 8 guys next year.

I have definitevely

meadows
tatis
soroka
rustchman
addell
franco
garcia

then I have to choose between kiriloff, merrifield, mcneil, buxton...

if i am trading greinke.... i need an absolute stud in return. He is in high demand
oh and I have Forresst  
dep026 : 7/7/2019 9:17 pm : link
Whitley too.
RE: Right and you are reacting as a fan  
section125 : 7/7/2019 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14493960 UConn4523 said:
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not as a GM/Manager who has countless factors that go into each and every lineup. I couldnt tell you why he went with scalers, but do you think he just woke up and felt like it? And be mad at Valera for his fuckup, not Boone.

Ive never been one to nitpick the day to day of baseball operations, seems utterly pointless. Ill question/debate macro level moves like trading for Stanton, not making a big play for Machado/Harper, bringing back Happ, etc. but daily lineups is just a waste of time and isnt backed by any actual data that a fan could possess.


No shit I am a fan. Very good that I am not the GM. I can also see that the rest is a great idea, but be smart. No reason to denude the team completely.
The season is made up of day to day decisions. Why would you gift a game to the Rays. I give Boone credit because they have won more of these games then they have lost. I just really think the Valera decision was unnecessary.
Deivi highlights  
Professor Falken : 7/7/2019 11:08 pm : link
from the Futures Game. Yes, please.
Deivi - ( New Window )
RE: Deivi highlights  
section125 : 7/7/2019 11:29 pm : link
In comment 14494143 Professor Falken said:
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from the Futures Game. Yes, please. Deivi - ( New Window )


Very smooth effortless delivery.
I saw fangraphs call Deivi the 63rd best prospect  
NoGainDayne : 7/8/2019 7:56 am : link
Other lists come out mid season right.

Hard to believe he isnt top 20 or top 30 with his stuff right now.
RE: Right and you are reacting as a fan  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/8/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14493960 UConn4523 said:
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not as a GM/Manager who has countless factors that go into each and every lineup. I couldnt tell you why he went with scalers, but do you think he just woke up and felt like it? And be mad at Valera for his fuckup, not Boone.

Ive never been one to nitpick the day to day of baseball operations, seems utterly pointless. Ill question/debate macro level moves like trading for Stanton, not making a big play for Machado/Harper, bringing back Happ, etc. but daily lineups is just a waste of time and isnt backed by any actual data that a fan could possess.


The fan reactions are strange because they seemingly act as if Boone single-handedly loses games while the team wins them. It was that way with Girardi and the snarky comments about binders.

When we lose yesterday, it isn't because there were some terrible at bats - it was because of the lineup. When we lose after the bullpen surrenders a lead, most of the comments complain that the starter was pulled or that Boone picked the wrong reliever.

To hear some people post on these threads, the Yankees are undefeated if it weren't for Boone's influence.
RE: I saw fangraphs call Deivi the 63rd best prospect  
Greg from LI : 7/8/2019 9:13 am : link
In comment 14494246 NoGainDayne said:
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Other lists come out mid season right.

Hard to believe he isnt top 20 or top 30 with his stuff right now.


This came up in the last Kiley McDaniel chat and he said Garcia wasn't higher because of his size.
Not saying he is Pedro but  
NoGainDayne : 7/8/2019 9:26 am : link
was Pedro similarly downgraded as he was coming up?

Definitely didn't follow the prospect rankings as closely then.

Just kind of wondering more philosophically what level of stuff gets you beyond frame concerns.
yes, Pedro was  
Greg from LI : 7/8/2019 9:29 am : link
The entire reason the Dodgers traded him to the Expos was because Tommy Lasorda thought that he would never hold up as a starting pitcher and was best suited as a reliever because of his small stature.
RE: yes, Pedro was  
Stu11 : 7/8/2019 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14494305 Greg from LI said:
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The entire reason the Dodgers traded him to the Expos was because Tommy Lasorda thought that he would never hold up as a starting pitcher and was best suited as a reliever because of his small stature.

Yeah Greg is 100% right. Flash and Kenny were talking about it during the game yesterday. Also love Flash relaying that yesterday Pedro was in the lockeroom before the game doing the game for TBS and he came up to Flash to shake his hand and Flash said it was awkward because he still doesn't like Pedro for throwing at people so much. I loved it. Kenny was like "You may need to seek some help for that". So happy Kenny came back this season. He is great. I love his old Earl Weaver stories.
And if you go back a few decades more....  
Greg from LI : 7/8/2019 4:31 pm : link
The Yankees did the same thing with Ron Guidry in 1974-76. Even though he had pitched well as a starter in the minors through 1973, they forced him into a bullpen role because they thought he was too small to be a starter. He wasn't happy about it and almost decided to quit baseball in 1976. They didn't give him a shot in the rotation until 1977 when he was 26, and the rest is history.
RE: RE: Right and you are reacting as a fan  
section125 : 7/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14494290 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14493960 UConn4523 said:


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not as a GM/Manager who has countless factors that go into each and every lineup. I couldnt tell you why he went with scalers, but do you think he just woke up and felt like it? And be mad at Valera for his fuckup, not Boone.

Ive never been one to nitpick the day to day of baseball operations, seems utterly pointless. Ill question/debate macro level moves like trading for Stanton, not making a big play for Machado/Harper, bringing back Happ, etc. but daily lineups is just a waste of time and isnt backed by any actual data that a fan could possess.



The fan reactions are strange because they seemingly act as if Boone single-handedly loses games while the team wins them. It was that way with Girardi and the snarky comments about binders.

When we lose yesterday, it isn't because there were some terrible at bats - it was because of the lineup. When we lose after the bullpen surrenders a lead, most of the comments complain that the starter was pulled or that Boone picked the wrong reliever.

To hear some people post on these threads, the Yankees are undefeated if it weren't for Boone's influence.


We are fans. We wouldn't be on BBI bitching if we weren't fans. Fans bitch and moan. Nobody would be here if it wasn't to talk about the game and complain about something. You compare your ideas with other fans. Sometimes you are right, lots of time (well many times) you are wrong. So people bitching about people bitching(really questioning and discussing) is just what fans do.


I really don't Cashman or Boone give a shit what we think.
It isn't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
about Cashman or Boone caring - it is the incessant whining that is annoying as hell.

Anytime a reliever gives up a lead it is because Boone brought the guy in too soon. If the starter gives up the lead it is because Boone left the starter in too long.

I don't think being a fan and not wanting to sound like a complete jacknut have to be mutually exclusive.
RE: It isn't..  
section125 : 7/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14494742 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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about Cashman or Boone caring - it is the incessant whining that is annoying as hell.

Anytime a reliever gives up a lead it is because Boone brought the guy in too soon. If the starter gives up the lead it is because Boone left the starter in too long.

I don't think being a fan and not wanting to sound like a complete jacknut have to be mutually exclusive.


Because someone thinks Boone fucked up doesn't make him/her a jacknut(repetitive posts throughout a thread probably does). Boone's pretty good at what he does(better than most give him credit for, including me but I'm coming around). He does take chances leaving guys in too long, but he needs to stretch guys out and let them work out of jams so they know how to do it. I think he is correct to rest players. Just wish he wouldn't take two or three prime movers out at the same time.
But in the end, fans complain about management and players.
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