NFT: Phillies at Mets: Rubber Game Wheelz

Should be available to PH.

IFA All star team that will be televised Wednesday. He joins Dilson Herrera.

He hit the very next batter and nothing happened. Just amateur hour.

Been doing pretty well with the Rays.

In comment 14493735 schabadoo said:

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He hit the very next batter and nothing happened. Just amateur hour.

Hope we have an opportunity to return the favor today at some point. Dont want to see Wheeler tossed though.

Trade.

Greene's under control for next year so it helps us for 2020 as well as now. I say do it. The pen still isnt remotely trust worthy with Familia and Diaz's struggles.

Greene no thanks.He has pitched six years and stunk three of them.

a big return for Wheeler. Honestly, it�ll be difficult for them to reload for the future at the trading deadline.

In comment 14493735 schabadoo said:

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He hit the very next batter and nothing happened. Just amateur hour.

Are you kidding me? Mets had 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. The count was 1-2 and he threw a change up? You really think he tried hitting him?

Same thing with Frazier. It was a change up that hit him belt high. The reason for the warnings cause he acted like a pushy by slamming the bat and started to complain.

If he ran to first like a normal person... no warnings.

They issued a warning on an offspeed pitch.

In comment 14493769 schabadoo said:

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They issued a warning on an offspeed pitch.

The warning came because Frazier slammed his bat and started chirping. That simple and there wasn�t a follow through because there has to be intent. A Phillies batter got hit later in the game and the Mets pitcher didn�t get ejected cause there was no intent.

There has to be intent.

revenge next inning.

This game is over.

In comment 14493746 ZGiants98 said:

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Trade. Greene's under control for next year so it helps us for 2020 as well as now. I say do it. The pen still isnt remotely trust worthy with Familia and Diaz's struggles.

Why? Is one reliever going to turn around your season? You should be sellers not buyers.

In comment 14493785 superspynyg said:

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In comment 14493746 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Trade. Greene's under control for next year so it helps us for 2020 as well as now. I say do it. The pen still isnt remotely trust worthy with Familia and Diaz's struggles. Why? Is one reliever going to turn around your season? You should be sellers not buyers.

I pretty clearly stated he was under control for 2020 which is why it would make sense. The Mets have an extremely young roster. They don't have a lot to trade and they don't have a lot to add next year. The lineup should be set. We need to figure out Wheeler or his replacement in the rotation. Wilson, Familia, and Diaz are all under contract in the pen but we need more. What difference does it make if we start building the pen out more now or in the offseason?

like going out and getting no hit the next day! lol.

Every pitcher is going to get roughed up by this lineup from time to time but he's basically been perfect since.

the Mets would be looking to trade....

Frazier is obvious. Trade him and finally insert Davis into the lineup every day.

Only other player is Wheeler. If you can get a great prospect for him? Great. If not. Just keep him. You're going to get a minimum of a second round pick and added pool money from the QO if you offer it. Dont see any urgency in giving Wheeler to a contender for peanuts.

What else? That's about it.

knew I spoke too soon. Oh well its officially a bad start now.

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In 0-2 home runs.

A big part of the trade was that Seattle took on Bruce's "terrible" contract.

14 million for a guy with 23 HR's? That's a bargain. And it is now fairly obvious that his poor numbers last year were because he was never healthy.

Meanwhile, Conforto is doing his annual swoon.

Brodie's mistake was trying to make a "big splash." He should have familiarized himself with the team's personnel before making such significant trades.

Another AWFUL signing.

That�s just embarrassing for a catcher

his D??

Ramos is also likely to be trade bait. If you're selling, you're selling. Ramos isn't part of the team's future, get what you can for him.

supposedly a defense-first catcher, but he's hitting decently at BING.

Career 45% CS. This year "only" 38% and he's OPS-ing over 700, which isn't great, but if you're gunning out runners and framing pitches I'll take it.

from another of our supposedly "ace" pitchers. The starters should be taking WAY more heat than they have. Bull pen catches all the flack but this team was suppose to be built around starting pitching. Syndeguard, wheeler and Matz all with eras over four and a half. Putrid!!!!!!!

a rebuild. 90% of their 2020 roster is intact and will stay intact. So you still need a few pieces added or retained if you want to try to compete next year.

Ramos has been awful which means is trade value is near zilch and is bringing back much even if we eat most of his salary and further the Mets don't have much in terms of catching depth heading into 2020 which is why he will still want to be retained anyway IMO.

Nido has been a nice development this year but he's still just a good backup, nothing more.

BVW threw this season down the well with Callaway, and possibly soiled his own reputation irreparably in the process. Notice how the leaks about him have increased exponentially the last month or so. That's the sound of him losing whatever respect people had for him.

This offseason he will attempt to sell the fanbase on whatever new manager he hires, the young players he inherited from the last regime, and bounce back seasons from all his key pickups. That's not a strategic decision for the franchise because this franchise has no long term strategy, it's a survival decision for BVW. It would take a lot of tough decisions and leadership to get this franchise back on track - BVW has not proven capable at either. He has miserably failed in both areas when tested.

Getting out of a good jamfor the angels

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ok back to this � Mets LHP Anthony Kay, who was overworked at UConn, blew out his elbow, but has recovered very nicely to show three-pitch starter potential, now pitching
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Kay struck out Luis Robert on 3 pitches. gave up 1 hit in a scoreless inning.

Kelenic 0 or 2.

Dunn a scoreless inning.

In comment 14493899 Chris L. said:

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from another of our supposedly "ace" pitchers. The starters should be taking WAY more heat than they have. Bull pen catches all the flack but this team was suppose to be built around starting pitching. Syndeguard, wheeler and Matz all with eras over four and a half. Putrid!!!!!!!

THIS! I have been saying this for 2-3 years.

Most overhyped pitching ever. Paper champions fed by immaturity and met media.

In comment 14493905 Eric on Li said:

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BVW threw this season down the well with Callaway, and possibly soiled his own reputation irreparably in the process. Notice how the leaks about him have increased exponentially the last month or so. That's the sound of him losing whatever respect people had for him. This offseason he will attempt to sell the fanbase on whatever new manager he hires, the young players he inherited from the last regime, and bounce back seasons from all his key pickups. That's not a strategic decision for the franchise because this franchise has no long term strategy, it's a survival decision for BVW. It would take a lot of tough decisions and leadership to get this franchise back on track - BVW has not proven capable at either. He has miserably failed in both areas when tested.

At least it saves free time. Lol

though I regret signing him in the first place, but this is more about Cano.

No idea why some people were so sure he'd be HOF Cano and not PED-less, 36-year old breaking down Cano.


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Yes.

Jay Bruce vs. #Mets - .333/.333/.852, 2 2B, 4 HR, 11 RBI, 27 AB.

Robinson Can� overall: .240/.287/.360, 17 2B, 4 HR, 18 RBI, 242 AB.

In comment 14494399 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Wow, I knew it was bad, but that is crazy.

misleading about the Mets blown save graphic is it assumes all the other teams still have the same amount of blown saves while the Mets get to change theirs to 100% save percent, or 75, or 50.

Reality is while the Mets have the most blown saves in MLB, the Red Sox have 18, just 3 less than the Mets and they're above .500, the Nats and Mariners also have just 3 fewer than the Mets. There are 10 teams within 10% of the Mets save percentage.

Bullpen is the problem with the Mets (or the biggest problem), but it's sort of a trend.

which is why in the off-season I said the Mets needed to add three proven, elite/upper tier, bullpen arms.

the last 3 years the Mets have had their 3 worst bullpens in team history. The previous worst BP in team history was 1962, so for 50+ years that record stood and then fell for 3 straight seasons. Let's take a short trip through the context of each of those years.

2017 (4.82 era) - Collins last year, and by no means was he a saint re: BP management, but he was coming off 4 or 5 straight years of his bullpens being in the mid-3's for ERA and generally in the top half of the league. His top guys were due for regression at some point though bc of how thin his pens were in those prior years. Familia had 3 amazing years in a row 2014-2016 but he also led closers in usage so his injury wasn't completely unpredictable and he was starting the year suspended in the first place. Reed had a near perfect 2016 which was also unsustainable given his high usage, though he was still solid pre-trade. Behind them there wasn't much depth with Robles/Salas/Blevins. A BP that entered the season 1 injury away from disaster had it's disaster.

2018 (4.96 era) - Sandy tried to address the problem but poor investments in the BP were 1 of the hallmarks of his era. AJ Ramos was a terrible pickup. Swarzak was mediocre for his career and got hurt right away. Familia had a decent bounce back year until he got traded. Blevins got old in a hurry. Other than Lugo/Gsellman none of the young guys panned out. On it's face this bullpen was deeper entering the year than 2017 but the combo of poor decisions/injuries/aging/lack of development doomed it.

2019 (5.57 era) - This is where it has become clear in my view that Mickey is not just a part of the problem, but a central part of the problem. They traded for last year's top closer at age 24 and he has been healthy, and I personally can't recall a closer misused so badly. Barely pitching for 7-10 days and then pitching every night. Only in the 9th inning one night and then the rules change. We can go far deeper on the problems of this year's bullpen but why bother? We are watching Callaway turn a guy who had a HOF season last year into a laughing stock front of our eyes. What chance does anyone with lesser talent have? And if Diaz isn't enough evidence Familia had a long track record of success here, has also apparently been ruined.

Mickey was hired as a pitching guru who had apparently helped all those guys in Cleveland. Since joining this franchise all he's done is ruin guys from whatever their previous success was. He has taken an area that was a weakness and made it an all time laughing stock. The area that was supposed to be his speciality has been the area he's made by far the most mind numbing rookie mistakes. It is no wonder the handful of his former players we went after as FA chose to sign with other teams.

In comment 14494421 pjcas18 said:

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misleading about the Mets blown save graphic is it assumes all the other teams still have the same amount of blown saves while the Mets get to change theirs to 100% save percent, or 75, or 50. Reality is while the Mets have the most blown saves in MLB, the Red Sox have 18, just 3 less than the Mets and they're above .500, the Nats and Mariners also have just 3 fewer than the Mets. There are 10 teams within 10% of the Mets save percentage. Bullpen is the problem with the Mets (or the biggest problem), but it's sort of a trend. which is why in the off-season I said the Mets needed to add three proven, elite/upper tier, bullpen arms.

The Nationals have the 2nd worst bullpen in baseball behind only the Orioles. They have an ERA a half a run higher than the Mets bullpen ERA.

The Phillies have a worse bullpen FIP. The entire NL east have shitty bullpens.

Bring back TC for rest of season. Then rehire In off-Season

Kay's 3-pitch strikeout to Luis Robert.


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In comment 14494467 CMicks3110 said:

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Bring back TC for rest of season. Then rehire In off-Season

The season is over - they chose to ride it out with Mickey because Jeff Wilpon likes him (probably because he pushed to hire him) and BVW is Jeff's lap dog.

Let him get his arms around this thing over the 2nd half of this year so they can hit the offseason knowing exactly what they need on the field based on his input.

Let him start to correct the bad habits now.

Let him establish the accountability now.

But they won't.

is going to be a hot commodity.

Red Sox, Yankees, and more all looking for starting pitching.

I'd trade definitely look to move Vargas, Wheeler and Matz (esp if the Mets have no intentions of re-signing Wheeler) I could be convinced on Syndergaard with a solid return and I'd deal deGrom for a massive franchise altering haul.

Mets should be active as sellers (again).

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Kelenic #13 - you have to love the "why he might fail":

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13.) Jarred Kelenic, OF, Seattle Mariners Why he�ll succeed: Potential for plus hit and plus power in center. Kelenic took to full-season ball like a fish to water, immediately showing a high-end offensive upside. There�s a broad base of skills and tools in all aspects of the game, and he�s polished for a prep hitter. Why he might fail: Maybe there�s latent bad Mets karma surrounding him? More seriously, Kelenic might slide to a corner outfield spot at some point, and not everyone believes he�s going to hit for big power or average quite yet. There could be some chance he ends up lacking a true carrying tool

Mauricio the lone Met at #45:

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45.) Ronny Mauricio, SS, New York Mets Why he�ll succeed: Welcome to the �highly touted J2� section of this list! Contestant number one received a $2.1 million bonus in 2017, came stateside for his pro debut in 2018, and jumped all the way to Low-A this spring. Mauricio has been holding his own in the Sally, and he�s got a shot for a plus hit, plus power offensive profile at shortstop. Why he might fail: There�s a lot of variance in all three of those things. His aggressiveness could damper the hit tool. He has the ability to grow into substantial power, but he�s not there yet, especially in games. And that same filling out that might get him to the power projection also might move him down the defensive spectrum. Things could go many different ways from here, which will be a recurring theme for this group of guys.

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On a magnificent display. He's basically the NL version of Judge and boy are we lucky to have him.

Interesting hearing Grandal might be interested in trying again with the Mets this coming offseason. We would obviously have to unload Ramos first...




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