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NFT: Motley Crue's cover of Helter Skelter

jnoble : 7/7/2019 6:00 pm
One of my soon to be ex-friends insists its "100 times better" than the Beatles original. Should I delete his contact info now and pretend he's dead to me or just play this off as a moment of temporary insanity and ignore?
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No it isnt  
Payasdaddy : 7/7/2019 6:03 pm : link
Off the shout at the devil album and I liked it because it was heavier. And I was 19 at the time and that all I pretty much cared about ( the harder the better)
Thrash metal was gaining steam at this time
But if u look back when the Beatles wrote the song it’s actually a harder version if u consider the time period
Jmho
No  
noro9 : 7/7/2019 6:30 pm : link
No
RE: No it isnt  
jnoble : 7/7/2019 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14493913 Payasdaddy said:
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Off the shout at the devil album and I liked it because it was heavier. And I was 19 at the time and that all I pretty much cared about ( the harder the better)
Thrash metal was gaining steam at this time
But if u look back when the Beatles wrote the song it’s actually a harder version if u consider the time period
Jmho


The MC cover isn't bad per se but the thing about the original it and the other covers are missing are the minor details that make it so great...the backing vocals, the extra slightly out of tune guitars grinding away in the back of the mix, the fade out fade back in with the eerie trumpets playing random noises and finally Ringo's scream at the end. You just can't duplicate that.
Vince Neil  
Deejboy : 7/7/2019 6:56 pm : link
has not aged well.
I will just leave this here - ( New Window )
Is your friend Charles Manson?  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2019 7:09 pm : link
every time I hear a cover of Helter Skelter it sounds like someone covering someone else's song.

I liked the Motley Crue version because as a youth I was a big Motley Crue fan and Shout at the Devil was almost on par with Appetite for Destruction for me, but no the Crue version is not close.

I might even give the U2 version a nod ahead of Motley Crue.

All those are distantly behind the Beatles version and I'm not a big Beatles fan.
RE: Is your friend Charles Manson?  
jnoble : 7/7/2019 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14493940 pjcas18 said:
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every time I hear a cover of Helter Skelter it sounds like someone covering someone else's song.

I liked the Motley Crue version because as a youth I was a big Motley Crue fan and Shout at the Devil was almost on par with Appetite for Destruction for me, but no the Crue version is not close.

I might even give the U2 version a nod ahead of Motley Crue.

All those are distantly behind the Beatles version and I'm not a big Beatles fan.


Lol
Nah,I'm convinced my bud just says things sometimes just to be a contrarian. I'm not sure he ever even listened to the original start to finish
RE: Vince Neil  
Johnny5 : 7/7/2019 7:50 pm : link
In comment 14493935 Deejboy said:
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has not aged well. I will just leave this here - ( New Window )

Yes he looks like the bumble for Rudolph...

No offense to the Crue  
weeg in the bronx : 7/7/2019 7:50 pm : link
The Husker Du version is the best cover of the song.
Ummm...  
Johnny5 : 7/7/2019 7:51 pm : link
.... FROM Rudolph, not FOR. Stupid auto-correct.
RE: No offense to the Crue  
jnoble : 7/7/2019 8:04 pm : link
In comment 14493966 weeg in the bronx said:
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The Husker Du version is the best cover of the song.


I just looked it up and listened and made it to the 45 second mark before bailing. What was up with that off-time drum beat?
You are wrong wrong-ity wrong.

:-)
RE: Vince Neil  
jpkmets : 7/7/2019 8:05 pm : link
In comment 14493935 Deejboy said:
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has not aged well. I will just leave this here - ( New Window )


Holy shit!

Sounds like Eddie Murphy as James Brown a bit!
The worst cover  
Matt in SGS : 7/7/2019 8:42 pm : link
is Ugly Kid Joe doing "Cats in the Cradle" by Harry Chapin. That should be considered a war crime.

And that song, as a working parent, tears your heart out.
Vince neil  
Payasdaddy : 7/7/2019 8:44 pm : link
Funny thing is I live In alameda county and vice
Playing the fair tonight
Lives or lived in town I work in
Alamo ca
Not for the poor. Vince made hiscash for sure
Great at the time  
Steve L : 7/7/2019 8:45 pm : link
Terrible now.

Aerosmith’s Come Together is a cover I like better than the original.
RE: Great at the time  
jnoble : 7/7/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14493995 Steve L said:
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Terrible now.

Aerosmith’s Come Together is a cover I like better than the original.


Me too. Billy Preston's funky cover of Get Back (also from the infamous Sgt Pepper movie soundtrack) is better than the original too.
Earth Wind and Fire had a #1 hit with their Got To Get You Into My Life also from that movie
RE: Great at the time  
jnoble : 7/7/2019 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14493995 Steve L said:
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Terrible now.

Aerosmith’s Come Together is a cover I like better than the original.


Did you ever hear the Bee Gee's cover of A Day In The Life?
It's also pretty good

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I once  
FranchiseQB : 7/7/2019 9:33 pm : link
interviewed Vince Neil about football and the Super Bowl. Huge fucking football fan. Nice guy to talk to for an hour too. And at the time I didn't care about his music. I like it a bit now.
RE: RE: Great at the time  
Steve L : 7/7/2019 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14493999 jnoble said:
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In comment 14493995 Steve L said:


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Terrible now.

Aerosmith’s Come Together is a cover I like better than the original.



Me too. Billy Preston's funky cover of Get Back (also from the infamous Sgt Pepper movie soundtrack) is better than the original too.
Earth Wind and Fire had a #1 hit with their Got To Get You Into My Life also from that movie


Terrible movie. With a pretty great sound track.
RE: RE: RE: Great at the time  
jnoble : 7/7/2019 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14494042 Steve L said:
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In comment 14493995 Steve L said:


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Terrible now.

Aerosmith’s Come Together is a cover I like better than the original.



Me too. Billy Preston's funky cover of Get Back (also from the infamous Sgt Pepper movie soundtrack) is better than the original too.
Earth Wind and Fire had a #1 hit with their Got To Get You Into My Life also from that movie



Terrible movie. With a pretty great sound track.

Yes. It was the epitome of '70s cheese and drug induced bad ideas. Just like KISS's Phantom Of The Park
.You watch it wondering how anyone could've thought it was a good idea
RE: No offense to the Crue  
kennyd : 7/7/2019 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14493966 weeg in the bronx said:
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The Husker Du version is the best cover of the song.


Husker Du is one of my all time favorite bands, I've seen them and subsequently Bob Mould dozens and dozens of times. That being said, that may be the worst thing they've ever done. The drumming is um... peculiar and Grant Hart's vocals are a mess. Just my 2 cents.

And oh yeah, that MC cover is a train wreck. Never speak to that "friend" again
RE: RE: No offense to the Crue  
jnoble : 7/7/2019 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14494049 kennyd said:
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In comment 14493966 weeg in the bronx said:


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The Husker Du version is the best cover of the song.



Husker Du is one of my all time favorite bands, I've seen them and subsequently Bob Mould dozens and dozens of times. That being said, that may be the worst thing they've ever done. The drumming is um... peculiar and Grant Hart's vocals are a mess. Just my 2 cents.

And oh yeah, that MC cover is a train wreck. Never speak to that "friend" again

Lol
I can't, we've known each other for a long time.
Lets just say we have different opinions on music and what's good and what's not

(Example: He once texted me saying he just heard Rush's The Big Money and doesn't get why people (like me) love the band so much)
the Crue cover  
Enzo : 7/7/2019 10:34 pm : link
of Helter Skelter is ok but come on - the Crue at their best doesn't belong in the same ballpark as Sir Paul. And I love Motley. To me it's the weakest track on Shout at the Devil - which is a fucking classic.
It’s clearly not, but...  
sb from NYT Forum : 7/7/2019 11:51 pm : link
this is better than any Beatles song:
Vince Neil is the Greatest Vocalist of All Time - ( New Window )
To each their own, but the original Helter Skelter...  
x meadowlander : 7/8/2019 10:52 am : link
...was lightning in a bottle. It was a shocker - as creative as the Beatles had been at that point, this was a complete departure, LOUD, LOOSE, EXPLOSIVE and catchy as hell. I love the textures, I love the slapback on McCartney's vocal, the crappy sounding throbbing bassline laid down by Lennon, Ringo's drum fills as timely and perfect as ever. One of my favorites.

Many have covered it. Many have done a good job with it, but you can't touch the original.

Beatles and McCartney never repeated it themselves, though Sir Paul with Grohl and Krist Novoselik recorded 'Cut Me Some Slack' - that had a very similar sound.
RE: The worst cover  
mamu : 7/8/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14493992 Matt in SGS said:
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is Ugly Kid Joe doing "Cats in the Cradle" by Harry Chapin. That should be considered a war crime.

And that song, as a working parent, tears your heart out.



I think UKJ added anger/emotion in there to hammer home the neglect and what that did to his son, and that realization hitting him hard.


Crue's cover of Helter Skelter is decent. Not easy covering the Beatles.
RE: It’s clearly not, but...  
Johnny5 : 7/8/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14494200 sb from NYT Forum said:
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this is better than any Beatles song: Vince Neil is the Greatest Vocalist of All Time - ( New Window )

OMG... the video itself is a hilarious comedy.... but the comments..... Bwahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahahaha  
Johnny5 : 7/8/2019 2:45 pm : link
I.... can't breathe.... Hahahahahaha

skidrowsux1977
1 month ago (edited)
Guys, I've done a little work here to translate almost up through the first chorus. After consulting a few linguistic experts and an anthropologist in ancient asian oral traditions I have produced the following.I did not translate the sections in vietnamese because, well, he's says some heavy stuff. Here's the balance of the first verse:




White!
two broke kids
Channel as wood
Beans on top of wood
Got a ticket buy a train
Cant hire Hank
…But I would
Saw Vita raw gaga here
Do it, Jay!
Ursula y’all, the bitch can mop
She has to do that again (pronounced ‘agayne’ because he’s speaking proper Patrician English)
[switches to Vietnamese ]
she's too sweet on (he meant to say 'to' ,not 'on') people on the street
go there to mimi's house
Haha...these are spot on  
Ryan : 7/8/2019 2:51 pm : link

Doctor Colin
1 month ago
1:18 "Straw baby cow hand - Google man."


.....and from the earlier link posted....


Lou Skunt
1 month ago
1:18 “poopppy buuttt around the house!”


I think he's having a stroke  
Sneakers O'toole : 7/8/2019 2:54 pm : link
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Holy shit  
Johnny5 : 7/9/2019 11:40 am : link
I am STILL laughing at comments on that Youtube vid. They are both epic AND infinite... lol
Have any of you ever heard the first outtake for Helter Skelter?  
rnargi : 7/9/2019 1:04 pm : link
...it's decidedly different from the version released.
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