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What former NFL executives make of Dave Gettleman’s plan

BSIMatt : 7/10/2019 5:14 pm
Great article by Dan Duggan in the Athletic.

This was a good read, if posted already I'll delete.

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QB vision? Roster teardown? What former NFL executives make of Dave Gettleman’s plan to rebuild the Giants - ( New Window )
It's in Dawg's thread, but don't sweat it.  
Klaatu : 7/10/2019 5:24 pm : link
I'm not a subscriber, so I couldn't read it. Anyone worth quoting?
Thought it was a very good article  
gmen9892 : 7/10/2019 5:35 pm : link
Nothing groundbreaking from Joe Banner or Charley Casserly.

-Both like that they rebuilt the OL.
-Both do not hate the Jones pick. Casserly likes the pick a lot.
-Banner disagrees with letting OBJ go, the QB succession plan, and the roster teardown.
-Both like the culture rebuilding, but Banner thinks Gettleman went overboard.

Thanks.  
Klaatu : 7/10/2019 5:37 pm : link
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Banner came off as having strong opinions  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 7/10/2019 5:41 pm : link
on people/culture issues without being inside the clubhouse. I liked the article but thought he was a bit negative without necessarily having the required insight.
Also  
Jay in Toronto : 7/10/2019 6:22 pm : link
(I believe Banner) questioned not letting Eli go and the $$ relief that would have brought (if they really have a conviction on Jones)
Its all about Jones  
JerseyCityJoe : 7/10/2019 8:08 pm : link
If he is the goods DG is a genius if not he has some splaining to do.
RE: Also  
yatqb : 7/10/2019 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14496213 Jay in Toronto said:
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(I believe Banner) questioned not letting Eli go and the $$ relief that would have brought (if they really have a conviction on Jones)


Banner kept talking about keeping the Eli money for FUTURE years. WTF is he talking about?
RE: RE: Also  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/10/2019 8:56 pm : link
In comment 14496284 yatqb said:
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In comment 14496213 Jay in Toronto said:


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(I believe Banner) questioned not letting Eli go and the $$ relief that would have brought (if they really have a conviction on Jones)



Banner kept talking about keeping the Eli money for FUTURE years. WTF is he talking about?


I'm no expert, but I think unused cap space rolls over, forward, to future years.
RE: RE: RE: Also  
Leg of Theismann : 7/11/2019 1:04 am : link
In comment 14496302 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14496284 yatqb said:


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In comment 14496213 Jay in Toronto said:


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(I believe Banner) questioned not letting Eli go and the $$ relief that would have brought (if they really have a conviction on Jones)



Banner kept talking about keeping the Eli money for FUTURE years. WTF is he talking about?



I'm no expert, but I think unused cap space rolls over, forward, to future years.


I never fully understood how that worked. If we don't use Eli's $20M in 2019, we could potentially use it in 2020 and or spread some to 2021? That's a nice chunk of change right there. Could sign 2 or 3 decent players/possible starters for the years where we are actually going to (maybe) be a competitive football team. So weird to me how much we're paying Eli for the player he is at this point in his career. I know he's "earned" it but I mean the dude has made $250M + off-the-field dough + comes from money. IDK just odd to me they couldn't leverage possibly releasing him for lowering his contract number a little bit (without extending extra years).
If Eli gets cut  
section125 : 7/11/2019 1:32 am : link
and they save $17 mill, yes it is unused cap. If they do not use that money or part of it by the end of the year any money under the cap gets added to next year's available cap.
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Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/11/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14496438 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14496302 BlueLou'sBack said:


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In comment 14496284 yatqb said:


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In comment 14496213 Jay in Toronto said:


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(I believe Banner) questioned not letting Eli go and the $$ relief that would have brought (if they really have a conviction on Jones)



Banner kept talking about keeping the Eli money for FUTURE years. WTF is he talking about?



I'm no expert, but I think unused cap space rolls over, forward, to future years.



I never fully understood how that worked. If we don't use Eli's $20M in 2019, we could potentially use it in 2020 and or spread some to 2021? That's a nice chunk of change right there. Could sign 2 or 3 decent players/possible starters for the years where we are actually going to (maybe) be a competitive football team. So weird to me how much we're paying Eli for the player he is at this point in his career. I know he's "earned" it but I mean the dude has made $250M + off-the-field dough + comes from money. IDK just odd to me they couldn't leverage possibly releasing him for lowering his contract number a little bit (without extending extra years).

If Jones is showing something, that gives the Giants more leverage against Eli.
Thanks, guys.  
yatqb : 7/11/2019 11:04 am : link
I wasn't getting his point.
RE: RE: Also  
Rafflee : 7/11/2019 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14496284 yatqb said:
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In comment 14496213 Jay in Toronto said:


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(I believe Banner) questioned not letting Eli go and the $$ relief that would have brought (if they really have a conviction on Jones)



Banner kept talking about keeping the Eli money for FUTURE years. WTF is he talking about?


They would carry the money for pre 2020 bonus money and signs...early extensions
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