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Payasdaddy : 7/10/2019 6:46 pm
sound familiar?
He looked good in gmen offseason too
Gotta admit I did think he would make team last yr

Via Hughes, former Giantsí third-rounder Davis Webb had an impressive offseason program, so impressive that he apparently jumped Siemian late in the OTA process. Hughes writes that Webb was the second quarterback to take the field during the final set of OTAs.

Hughes adds that the Jets would like to keep only two quarterbacks on the final 53-man roster. Siemian, however, has $1 million of his one-year, $2 million contract fully guaranteed. (He already has earned a $750,000 signing bonus.) So cutting Siemian and keeping Webb (who has a non-guaranteed salary of $645,000) would create enhanced expense and wasted money.

It also would create the risk that, if the Jets need Siemian later, he wonít be available. Whether heís signed by another NFL team or by the fledgling XFL ó which plans to gobble up third- and fourth-string quarterbacks who are cut from NFL rosters ó Siemian could be long gone if/when an injury creates a reason to bring him back.

Ditto for Webb, who also could land with another team, or with the XFL.

Another option, as Hughes notes, would be to trade Webb, who was regarded as having a bright future before he washed out with the Giants. Maybe that future is getting brighter, whether itís with the Jets, another NFL team, or ultimately as one of the eight starters for Vince McMahonís resurrected spring league.
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RE: RE: RE: LMAO  
Jimmy Googs : 7/13/2019 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14498269 dep026 said:
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I havenít seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.


Then show me where I complained about any other pick. Otherwise stfu thanks.



See hereís the thing Josh. YouĒre incessant whining and crying over the Barkley pick than the Daniel Jones pick takes up so much of this hoard when it happened, no one bothered reading another thing of yours. You cried about it before, during, and after the draft.

And your constant bitching of Barkley over Darnold I find HIGHLY amusing since you HATED Darnold before the draft and wanted us to draft Josh Allen. Now Iím sure youíre going to deny you never wanted Darnold, but everyone on this thread knows itís not true. Then you were all over trading for Rosen when again - you didnít even want him before the draft last year.

If thereís one thing thatís constant about draft time. Youíre not big and complaining.


And this is related to Webb comments? How do you remember so much about this and every other poster you argue with which is no short list...seems creepy.
Because it was brought up by  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 9:31 pm : link
4 other posters and when you have a back and forth when someone is so blatantly wrong - itís easy to remember.

But I guess attacking posters who arenít addressing you whatsoever is the cool thing.

I thought you were trying to be better. Guess itís gonna take longer than we hoped.
Lay off this guy and maybe I will  
Jimmy Googs : 7/13/2019 9:49 pm : link
You keep crying wolf but youíre right there doing the same thing to others...

Lay off this guy???  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 10:08 pm : link
LMAO. Watch out everyone, itís the BBI police!!!

Itís absolutely hysterical how Fatman are so far in your head. All you do is follow us around, insult us, and provide no insight on anything. I mean we all know youíre a fucking creep... Iím just waiting for us your daddy...
I feel so silly  
santacruzom : 7/14/2019 3:09 am : link
In assuming that this thread would be about Davis Webb. QB threads around here rarely stay about the topical QB.
Yeah I am following you around looking for spots  
Jimmy Googs : 7/14/2019 6:35 am : link
where you tell everybody they have always been wrong

Its just so tough to find...
RE: RE: RE: LMAO  
Josh in the City : 7/14/2019 7:29 am : link
In comment 14498269 dep026 said:
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In comment 14498213 Josh in the City said:


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In comment 14498117 dep026 said:


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I havenít seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.


Then show me where I complained about any other pick. Otherwise stfu thanks.



See hereís the thing Josh. YouĒre incessant whining and crying over the Barkley pick than the Daniel Jones pick takes up so much of this hoard when it happened, no one bothered reading another thing of yours. You cried about it before, during, and after the draft.

And your constant bitching of Barkley over Darnold I find HIGHLY amusing since you HATED Darnold before the draft and wanted us to draft Josh Allen. Now Iím sure youíre going to deny you never wanted Darnold, but everyone on this thread knows itís not true. Then you were all over trading for Rosen when again - you didnít even want him before the draft last year.

If thereís one thing thatís constant about draft time. Youíre not big and complaining.

Sounds like you're now deflecting and trying to change the subject after making yet another inaccurate statement about my posting. Still waiting for you to show me all the draft picks I've complained about aside from the first two picks in the past two drafts. You can't bc as usual you're talking out of your ass. Pathetic.
Lol  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 8:08 am : link
Deflecting? Or did I hit a soft spot? Itís ok buddy. When you consistently complain that we didnít get the QB YOU wanted in the draft... thatís complaining about the draft. I know you donít understand that... but you will one day.
RE: Yeah I am following you around looking for spots  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 8:09 am : link
In comment 14498340 Jimmy Googs said:
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where you tell everybody they have always been wrong

Its just so tough to find...


Relax son. Try to post about the topic. You always seem to go off kilter... like you have ADD or something...
And I love how these two posters  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 8:22 am : link
Are like ďwell if you canít find the specfic post from 18 months ago from some random thread.... then youíre a liar.Ē For Christ sakes. When people say stupid shit time and time and time and time again... itís not hard to remember.

Well except for the people who say it and donít want to admit it...

So letís get back into this thread topic.

1. Davis Webb sucks and always has.
So maybe just try to forget...  
Jimmy Googs : 7/14/2019 11:26 am : link
In comment 14498356 dep026 said:
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When people say stupid shit time and time and time and time again... itís not hard to remember.
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And Davis Webb falls within the same long line of  
Jimmy Googs : 7/14/2019 11:32 am : link
backups for Eli that cannot even hold a job as a backup. Or even remotely give any confidence to hold their if pressed into duty.

Not that success rate is high around the NFL but our backup guys look like chickens with their heads cut off.

Is manning being criticized  
crick n NC : 7/14/2019 2:13 pm : link
For lack of success of his backups?
If anything, the backups have praised Eli for being a role model  
Jimmy Googs : 7/14/2019 3:40 pm : link
so would think not. Would look more to commitment of those reserves and how much coaches give them attention on and off field.
114 post thread on a former 3rd string QB for the Giants....  
Britt in VA : 7/14/2019 4:09 pm : link
current 3rd string QB for the Jets.

Must be the offseason.
RE: Lol  
Josh in the City : 7/14/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14498352 dep026 said:
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Deflecting? Or did I hit a soft spot? Itís ok buddy. When you consistently complain that we didnít get the QB YOU wanted in the draft... thatís complaining about the draft. I know you donít understand that... but you will one day.

Still waiting...and i figure i will be for a while. Bc as usual you talk out of your ass.
RE: RE: Lol  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14498695 Josh in the City said:
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Deflecting? Or did I hit a soft spot? Itís ok buddy. When you consistently complain that we didnít get the QB YOU wanted in the draft... thatís complaining about the draft. I know you donít understand that... but you will one day.


Still waiting...and i figure i will be for a while. Bc as usual you talk out of your ass.


Lol. 5 other posters said the same thing. Canít wait for you to claim to want six different QBs instead of the one we chose. Letís check the list...

Darnold
Allen
Rosen
Haskins
Lock

Who else?????
Dep  
Josh in the City : 7/15/2019 8:05 am : link
Iím not sure how old you are but now you just sound like a child. Mommy, they said it so I could say it too! The other 6 posters are wrong and so are you. Grow up dude.
RE: Dep  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/15/2019 8:10 am : link
In comment 14498904 Josh in the City said:
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Iím not sure how old you are but now you just sound like a child. Mommy, they said it so I could say it too! The other 6 posters are wrong and so are you. Grow up dude.


Did the guy who spent the majority of the past year and a half bitching about picking Barkley over Darnold and who started multiple threads on the situation just call another poster a child??

Fucking bizarro world.
RE: Dep  
dep026 : 7/15/2019 8:29 am : link
In comment 14498904 Josh in the City said:
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Iím not sure how old you are but now you just sound like a child. Mommy, they said it so I could say it too! The other 6 posters are wrong and so are you. Grow up dude.


You never answered my question. Youíre a joke Josh. Always have been, always will be.

RE: We need more great insight like this on BBI....  
dep026 : 7/15/2019 8:30 am : link
In comment 14498272 dep026 said:
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Heís fucking horrible
Josh in the City : 4/25/2019 10:57 pm : link
Sorry there is no sugar coating it. Will go down as the worst pick and biggest reach in franchise history. Taking a day 3 guy at 6 overall. Doesnít get any worse. Fire gettleman!



I go back to this quote and this is one joshís most logical posts. Just a nuisance on this board.
RE: RE: Dep  
Josh in the City : 7/15/2019 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14498915 dep026 said:
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In comment 14498904 Josh in the City said:


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Iím not sure how old you are but now you just sound like a child. Mommy, they said it so I could say it too! The other 6 posters are wrong and so are you. Grow up dude.



You never answered my question. Youíre a joke Josh. Always have been, always will be.

What was your question? Unlike you, I have no problem acknowledging and responding to statements I've made in the past. And even the statement you're referring to right above, I stand by that today. While I hope like hell I'm wrong, I believe it was an unbelievably terrible pick.

I also stated when we drafted Barkley, I thought he would be amazing, but I also thought it was the absolute wrong pick b/c of position value and how good I expected some of those QB's to be. I stand by that statement as well. You can make fun of those statements all you want and I can still think you're like most typically shortsighted fans.
Only on BBI can a Davis Webb stinks thread be turned into a  
fredgbrown : 7/15/2019 2:37 pm : link
Eli Stinks thread. I guess Eli haters have at it...
Trust me  
dep026 : 7/15/2019 2:47 pm : link
We make fun of your statements all the time.....
RE: Trust me  
Josh in the City : 7/15/2019 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14499223 dep026 said:
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We make fun of your statements all the time.....

That's why you sound so oblivious in your posts. You revert to name-calling and saying things like "5 other posters said the same thing" b/c you can't come up with an original thought and you realize your posts have no substance.

Still waiting for you to show me all the draft picks I've complained about aside from the first two picks in the past two drafts. But alas, you can't...b/c as usual, you're talking out of your ass. But keep making fun...you sound real cool.
LMAO  
dep026 : 7/15/2019 3:14 pm : link
Summer school didnít do you much favors.
The Barkley pick..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/15/2019 3:18 pm : link
discussion alone should cement exactly what kind of acumen you have.

Not only did you keep reiterating he was a terrible pick, you did it throughout the season when the guy should have obviously shut you up.

But looking smart probably isn't high on the priority list for you.

Then to call for Gettleman to be fired on draft night and much of the time since then? Yeah - you are pretty much a fucking moron.
RE: The Barkley pick..  
ron mexico : 7/15/2019 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14499258 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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discussion alone should cement exactly what kind of acumen you have.

Not only did you keep reiterating he was a terrible pick, you did it throughout the season when the guy should have obviously shut you up.

But looking smart probably isn't high on the priority list for you.

Then to call for Gettleman to be fired on draft night and much of the time since then? Yeah - you are pretty much a fucking moron.


As awesome as we was last year, nothings settled. We won 5 games. I wouldn't be taking any victory laps.

RE: The Barkley pick..  
dep026 : 7/15/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14499258 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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discussion alone should cement exactly what kind of acumen you have.

Not only did you keep reiterating he was a terrible pick, you did it throughout the season when the guy should have obviously shut you up.

But looking smart probably isn't high on the priority list for you.

Then to call for Gettleman to be fired on draft night and much of the time since then? Yeah - you are pretty much a fucking moron.


Donít forget he wanted to draft...

Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
And Josh Allen

He got all his bases cover in case one actually has a productive career. Such acumen!!
RE: RE: The Barkley pick..  
Josh in the City : 7/15/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14499264 dep026 said:
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In comment 14499258 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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discussion alone should cement exactly what kind of acumen you have.

Not only did you keep reiterating he was a terrible pick, you did it throughout the season when the guy should have obviously shut you up.

But looking smart probably isn't high on the priority list for you.

Then to call for Gettleman to be fired on draft night and much of the time since then? Yeah - you are pretty much a fucking moron.



Donít forget he wanted to draft...

Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
And Josh Allen

He got all his bases cover in case one actually has a productive career. Such acumen!!

Actually, I didn't want to draft all of them. I thought when we were drafting at #2 overall in what was considered one of the best QB classes in recent memory with a then 37 yr old QB at the end of his career that we should be drafting our future QB over any RB. But as usual, you will attempt to rewrite history to try and draw an inaccurate conclusion either due to your inability to understand basic team-building concepts or a conscious effort to manipulate the facts. This has predictably become your modus operandi and it's quite petty and pathetic.
Wait so you just bitched  
dep026 : 7/15/2019 4:23 pm : link
About not drafting them now? Even though you dedicated a whole thread to saying to draft Josh Allen? Then complained all season we didnít take Darnold over Barkley and then cried this whole offseason we didnít trade for Rosen.

Things that make you go 🤔
RE: Wait so you just bitched  
Josh in the City : 7/15/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14499300 dep026 said:
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About not drafting them now? Even though you dedicated a whole thread to saying to draft Josh Allen? Then complained all season we didnít take Darnold over Barkley and then cried this whole offseason we didnít trade for Rosen.

Things that make you go 🤔

English next time. Don't even know what ☝️ is supposed to me.
mean  
Josh in the City : 7/15/2019 4:25 pm : link
.
The 2017 QB Draft Class  
JonC : 7/15/2019 4:49 pm : link
wound up not really being the powerhouse it was projected to be. The fact there was so little consensus on them tells you a lot, if you choose to not ignore it.
And I say that  
JonC : 7/15/2019 4:50 pm : link
as one who wanted to draft Darnold.

Not worried about the SB pick in the least, he's one of the very best FOOTBALL players on the planet.
Wrong emoji  
dep026 : 7/15/2019 4:54 pm : link
Better luck next time.
RE: The 2017 QB Draft Class  
ron mexico : 7/15/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14499315 JonC said:
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wound up not really being the powerhouse it was projected to be. The fact there was so little consensus on them tells you a lot, if you choose to not ignore it.


You mean 2018?

A bit early to reach that conclusion, no?
Yes, 2018  
JonC : 7/15/2019 5:42 pm : link
and I'm referring to how they were actually viewed and drafted on draft day, relative to how they were viewed before scouting season had completed (and where fans like Josh have nailed down their hat).

Fans need to understand that simply drafting the best player at any position just because you have a need for them, doesn't meant they were a smart (or the right or best) pick. You've got to believe in the player.
4 QBs were taken in the first 10 picks  
ron mexico : 7/15/2019 5:47 pm : link
Has that ever happened before?
Off the top of my head, I don't know  
JonC : 7/15/2019 5:53 pm : link
but the QBs were largely not viewed as strongly on draft day, many front office personnel spoke about it, it also made its way to the media. Much was already said about teams heavily drafting for need and taking bigger risks on finding a QB. Time will confirm or disprove which position is more accurate.
Huh? That crop of 2018 QBs had a pretty damn nice year  
Jimmy Googs : 7/15/2019 10:31 pm : link
not following the logic there...
RE: 4 QBs were taken in the first 10 picks  
Mad Mike : 7/15/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14499366 ron mexico said:
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Has that ever happened before?

Not since the 1940's.
RE: 4 QBs were taken in the first 10 picks  
cjac : 7/16/2019 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14499366 ron mexico said:
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Has that ever happened before?


3 of them are now in the same division

Jets
Bills
Dolphins
I personally don't put a lot of weight  
JonC : 7/16/2019 2:06 pm : link
in the QB evaluation abilities of the Browns, Jets, Bills, or Cards.

The talk leading up to the draft was many talent evaluators did not hold the QB group in as high of regard at the draft as they did earlier in the scouting season, before complete evaluations were completed. Take it for what you will. The Giants were one of those teams, I shared that here at that time.
JonC....it seems like a lot of these teams drafted the QBs  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/16/2019 2:14 pm : link
based on where they had them before their last season. Drafting on hope of what they can become and not where the evaluations were at. Specifically Rosen and Darnold. I think Baker is the real deal and showed as much on the field and off in college.
And the evaluation for Baker is coming from Dorsey  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/16/2019 2:16 pm : link
The guy who drafted Rodgers and Mahomes.
one out of four ain't bad  
JonC : 7/16/2019 2:22 pm : link
Really, the argument is Darnold or Barkley. At the draft I preferred Darnold, but if NYG didn't believe in him to lead them to championships, then that's it. The rest, time will tell.
I was hoping it was going to be Baker, but as soon as it became clear  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/16/2019 2:26 pm : link
he was going one I was all aboard the Barkley train. You don't just get a chance to draft a sure thing like him too often. Plenty of QBs like Darnold coming out the college pipeline these days.
and that's precisely the point  
JonC : 7/16/2019 2:48 pm : link
You don't draft one for the sake of it, the value and belief have got to be there.
RE: and that's precisely the point  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/16/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14500004 JonC said:
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You don't draft one for the sake of it, the value and belief have got to be there.


I'm a firm believer it is about fit as it is about anything else. John Dorsey just made Freddie Kitchens a head coach because of his relationship with Baker. Time will tell if this was a good decision or not, but I understand the thought process.
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