sound familiar?
He looked good in gmen offseason too
Gotta admit I did think he would make team last yr
Via Hughes, former Giants third-rounder Davis Webb had an impressive offseason program, so impressive that he apparently jumped Siemian late in the OTA process. Hughes writes that Webb was the second quarterback to take the field during the final set of OTAs.
Hughes adds that the Jets would like to keep only two quarterbacks on the final 53-man roster. Siemian, however, has $1 million of his one-year, $2 million contract fully guaranteed. (He already has earned a $750,000 signing bonus.) So cutting Siemian and keeping Webb (who has a non-guaranteed salary of $645,000) would create enhanced expense and wasted money.
It also would create the risk that, if the Jets need Siemian later, he wont be available. Whether hes signed by another NFL team or by the fledgling XFL which plans to gobble up third- and fourth-string quarterbacks who are cut from NFL rosters Siemian could be long gone if/when an injury creates a reason to bring him back.
Ditto for Webb, who also could land with another team, or with the XFL.
Another option, as Hughes notes, would be to trade Webb, who was regarded as having a bright future before he washed out with the Giants. Maybe that future is getting brighter, whether its with the Jets, another NFL team, or ultimately as one of the eight starters for Vince McMahons resurrected spring league.
Has tools, just didnt process fast enough? accuracy? feel for game?
they may do same with lauletta it doesnt click fast
would rather keep him vs tanney slight upside at least
Maybe he'll tear it up in the XFL.
Seemed like he was cut loose bc the new regime didnt draft him (not that Lauletta looked that great) and bc he was quoted in the papers far too often for a backup QB whos never done shit in a real game.
Doesnt mean hes finished, but will likely take injuries for him to get a chance with the Jets
It's like a Lil' Greg or Ten Ton Crap post but...
I'd rather have Webb than Lauletta at this point.
Worth a rehash.
Obviously a lot more interested in d Jones development this yr
Than d Webb
It's like a Lil' Greg or Ten Ton Crap post but...
I'd rather have Webb than Lauletta at this point.
How much do I owe you as rent for that space in your head?
I'm trying to piece together exactly what this thread is about and I'm hitting a fucking dead end.
I'm trying to piece together exactly what this thread is about and I'm hitting a fucking dead end.
It's the davis webb career update you've been waiting for.
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I'm trying to piece together exactly what this thread is about and I'm hitting a fucking dead end.
I think you can crack the case if you want - a July 2019er made a Jonas Seawright reference. I think you can probably sort it out from there...
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make a shitty detective.
I'm trying to piece together exactly what this thread is about and I'm hitting a fucking dead end.
I think you can crack the case if you want - a July 2019er made a Jonas Seawright reference. I think you can probably sort it out from there...
HA! Good point.
Yeah, his offseasons are great. And he'll tell you all about it!
Davis Webb will probably never play in an actual NFL game so that is going to be hard. Any other weird thoughts you have?
Nooooooooot!
And Im sure you will post nonstop about it. But yet you wanted a QB over Barkley. Imagine Webb being better than Darnold!!!!
Imagine if you had a dick
Imagine if Daniel Jones ends up better than Darnold.
There's actually a good chance of that. There's virtually no chance Webb will even get a chance to show he's better than any QB
Still whining like a ridiculous douche.
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Davis Webb ends up being better than Daniel Jones. Talk about a kick in the nuts.
Imagine if Daniel Jones ends up better than Darnold.
There's actually a good chance of that. There's virtually no chance Webb will even get a chance to show he's better than any QB
Still whining like a ridiculous douche.
I dunno... sounds like Josh is willing to kick himself in the nuts if FMiC's scenario plays out and Jones becomes better than Darnold...
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Davis Webb ends up being better than Daniel Jones. Talk about a kick in the nuts.
Imagine if Daniel Jones ends up better than Darnold.
There's actually a good chance of that. There's virtually no chance Webb will even get a chance to show he's better than any QB
Still whining like a ridiculous douche.
I dunno... sounds like Josh is willing to kick himself in the nuts if FMiC's scenario plays out and Jones becomes better than Darnold...
Well both decisions belong to DG and PS. No to Darnold and yes to Jones. I'm rooting for Jones...big time.
Fair...only the past 6 years.
Can we still make fun of your insistent crying and complaining over everything you have been wrong about since you started posting here? Lot of material to work with....
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LMAO. Yep, its official..... Josh is the worst poster on this site.
Fair...only the past 6 years.
So from 2014-2016 where Eli threw for 91 TDs and average of over 4300 yards with 1 legitimate offensive threat - is something we should look down upon?
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of you are quite defensive about a little joke that is virtually implausible to happen in reality. But unfortunately, that's what most posters on this site have become after having to incessantly defend Eli's ineptitude over the past decade and now transposing that sentiment towards Daniel Jones due to their insecurity over where he was drafted. Sad.
Can we still make fun of your insistent crying and complaining over everything you have been wrong about since you started posting here? Lot of material to work with....
Sure, what have I been wrong about?
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LMAO. Yep, its official..... Josh is the worst poster on this site.
Fair...only the past 6 years.
So from 2014-2016 where Eli threw for 91 TDs and average of over 4300 yards with 1 legitimate offensive threat - is something we should look down upon?
If that's supposed to be the prime of his career? Then yes, absofuckinglutely.
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Then he watched Barkley have an incredible year and still whined and bitched about not taking a QB.
All fucking year long.
But they are now on backorder...
But they are now on backorder...
Another post that has nothing to do with the content of the thread but to attack the poster. You're right, you arent a troll. You are an absolute nutjob who stalks other posters.
You are a very creepy dude.
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of you are quite defensive about a little joke that is virtually implausible to happen in reality. But unfortunately, that's what most posters on this site have become after having to incessantly defend Eli's ineptitude over the past decade and now transposing that sentiment towards Daniel Jones due to their insecurity over where he was drafted. Sad.
Can we still make fun of your insistent crying and complaining over everything you have been wrong about since you started posting here? Lot of material to work with....
this is creepy that you you have been stalking this poster since he started posting. And then attacking him.
kettle-pot...
this is creepy that you you have been stalking this poster since he started posting. And then attacking him.
kettle-pot...
And another post that doesnt consist with the material at hand....
And you should read this post Googs before attacking others first.
Or maybe come up with an original, thoughtful post? Be a contributor for once, we would love to hear some factual insight from you...
Sounds good... Ill be rooting for you.
Isn't this even more fun. How about a stat that means every more than TD's? 23-25 record during that span. And yes, 33-35 is absolutely still the prime of most QB's careers in today's NFL. Or are you arguing that he's been on the decline for the past 7 yrs? Either way your argument sucks.
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From 2014-2016, Giants ranking:
rushing:
2014: 23th yards per game, 30th YPA
2015: 19th yards per game, 18th YPA
2016: 29th yards per game, 30th YPA
average: 22nd yards per game, 26th YPA
defense:
2014: 29th yards per game, 22nd points allowed
2015: 32nd yards per game, 30th points allowed
2016: 10th yards per game, 2nd points allowed
average: 22nd in yards per game, 18th in points allowed.
Give it up Josh. It's ok to admit when you are wrong.
We are already assuming the defense is going to be good and the OL will be a positive?
I mean hell, I am as positive as the next guy as the direction of the team, but lets not assume before training camp starts.
how come?
how come?
Defense struggling means we are one dimensional and not have the ball a lot, and an average OL means inconsistent play from everyone. Not too hard.
This is not in opposition of him, but at some point the defenders of the faith are going to need to submit that Eli can be reasonably and fairly judged under many conditions...
This is not in opposition of him, but at some point the defenders of the faith are going to need to submit that Eli can be reasonably and fairly judged under many conditions...
defenders of faith? Try to grow up a little bit?
How could you judge someone when the play around him is AVERAGE at best? Oh wait, you are never wrong...
I forgot...
Are you deliberately trying to sound clueless? What's Eli's record the past 6 yrs? I'll help you...it's 38-57. Only a clueless homer would say that's acceptable from a QB.
Check out the stats I provided (team stats) before posting more nonsense.
This is what you want to attest to?
This is what you want to attest to?
They should. I know fans dont. But its pretty much assumed that fans are pretty clueless. I mean look at one poster blaming Eli for our losing the last 7 years. Doesnt get much worse than that.
Check out the stats I provided (team stats) before posting more nonsense.
Sorry to burst your bubble...but yea, it's you!
So insightful.
So insightful.
Name another top QB who has had such a shitty record for a 6 yr period...
LOL...how about over the past decade or two?
That said Webb has surprised a lot of people and hope he keeps it up. Could be some trade value building here
100% Im hard on the QB. Its the most important position on the field and ultimately the one most responsible for wins and losses in my eyes. Thats not to say Eli is 100% culpable for the Giants recent ineptitude. But he absolutely deserves a disproportionate share of the blame.
That said Webb has surprised a lot of people and hope he keeps it up. Could be some trade value building here
No there is no value building there. There is no new tape on Webb since the Giants cut him and every team passed on claiming him for free.
The coaches raved about him last year and look what happened. There is not going to be a market for Webb just because a few coaches praise him once again.
Then he watched Barkley have an incredible year and still whined and bitched about not taking a QB.
All fucking year long.
FTFY. Although it's really every year that Josh whines. It's all he does. I'm still waiting for the first draft pick that he actually likes.
That said Webb has surprised a lot of people and hope he keeps it up. Could be some trade value building here
You're still here?
What you go back to whatever Jets hole you crawled out of and take your backwards views of humanity with you, troll.
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is that rare breed of poster that is pissed because the team didn't do what he wanted them to. He championed selecting a QB and when the team didn't do it - they were wrong.
Then he watched Barkley have an incredible year and still whined and bitched about not taking a QB.
All fucking year long.
FTFY. Although it's really every year that Josh whines. It's all he does. I'm still waiting for the first draft pick that he actually likes.
I've actually loved our overall drafts the past two years. Just thought we made the wrong first pick in both.
Well played.
Then show me where I complained about any other pick. Otherwise stfu thanks.
Actually quite smart albeit boorish...
Creepy Stalker....
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I havent seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.
Then show me where I complained about any other pick. Otherwise stfu thanks.
See heres the thing Josh. Youre incessant whining and crying over the Barkley pick than the Daniel Jones pick takes up so much of this hoard when it happened, no one bothered reading another thing of yours. You cried about it before, during, and after the draft.
And your constant bitching of Barkley over Darnold I find HIGHLY amusing since you HATED Darnold before the draft and wanted us to draft Josh Allen. Now Im sure youre going to deny you never wanted Darnold, but everyone on this thread knows its not true. Then you were all over trading for Rosen when again - you didnt even want him before the draft last year.
If theres one thing thats constant about draft time. Youre not big and complaining.
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Sorry there is no sugar coating it. Will go down as the worst pick and biggest reach in franchise history. Taking a day 3 guy at 6 overall. Doesnt get any worse. Fire gettleman!
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I havent seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.
Then show me where I complained about any other pick. Otherwise stfu thanks.
See heres the thing Josh. Youre incessant whining and crying over the Barkley pick than the Daniel Jones pick takes up so much of this hoard when it happened, no one bothered reading another thing of yours. You cried about it before, during, and after the draft.
And your constant bitching of Barkley over Darnold I find HIGHLY amusing since you HATED Darnold before the draft and wanted us to draft Josh Allen. Now Im sure youre going to deny you never wanted Darnold, but everyone on this thread knows its not true. Then you were all over trading for Rosen when again - you didnt even want him before the draft last year.
If theres one thing thats constant about draft time. Youre not big and complaining.
And this is related to Webb comments? How do you remember so much about this and every other poster you argue with which is no short list...seems creepy.
But I guess attacking posters who arent addressing you whatsoever is the cool thing.
I thought you were trying to be better. Guess its gonna take longer than we hoped.
Its absolutely hysterical how Fatman are so far in your head. All you do is follow us around, insult us, and provide no insight on anything. I mean we all know youre a fucking creep... Im just waiting for us your daddy...
Its just so tough to find...
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I havent seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.
Then show me where I complained about any other pick. Otherwise stfu thanks.
See heres the thing Josh. Youre incessant whining and crying over the Barkley pick than the Daniel Jones pick takes up so much of this hoard when it happened, no one bothered reading another thing of yours. You cried about it before, during, and after the draft.
And your constant bitching of Barkley over Darnold I find HIGHLY amusing since you HATED Darnold before the draft and wanted us to draft Josh Allen. Now Im sure youre going to deny you never wanted Darnold, but everyone on this thread knows its not true. Then you were all over trading for Rosen when again - you didnt even want him before the draft last year.
If theres one thing thats constant about draft time. Youre not big and complaining.
Sounds like you're now deflecting and trying to change the subject after making yet another inaccurate statement about my posting. Still waiting for you to show me all the draft picks I've complained about aside from the first two picks in the past two drafts. You can't bc as usual you're talking out of your ass. Pathetic.
Its just so tough to find...
Relax son. Try to post about the topic. You always seem to go off kilter... like you have ADD or something...
Well except for the people who say it and dont want to admit it...
So lets get back into this thread topic.
1. Davis Webb sucks and always has.
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Not that success rate is high around the NFL but our backup guys look like chickens with their heads cut off.
Must be the offseason.
Still waiting...and i figure i will be for a while. Bc as usual you talk out of your ass.
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Deflecting? Or did I hit a soft spot? Its ok buddy. When you consistently complain that we didnt get the QB YOU wanted in the draft... thats complaining about the draft. I know you dont understand that... but you will one day.
Still waiting...and i figure i will be for a while. Bc as usual you talk out of your ass.
Lol. 5 other posters said the same thing. Cant wait for you to claim to want six different QBs instead of the one we chose. Lets check the list...
Darnold
Allen
Rosen
Haskins
Lock
Who else?????
Did the guy who spent the majority of the past year and a half bitching about picking Barkley over Darnold and who started multiple threads on the situation just call another poster a child??
Fucking bizarro world.
You never answered my question. Youre a joke Josh. Always have been, always will be.
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Sorry there is no sugar coating it. Will go down as the worst pick and biggest reach in franchise history. Taking a day 3 guy at 6 overall. Doesnt get any worse. Fire gettleman!
I go back to this quote and this is one joshs most logical posts. Just a nuisance on this board.
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Im not sure how old you are but now you just sound like a child. Mommy, they said it so I could say it too! The other 6 posters are wrong and so are you. Grow up dude.
You never answered my question. Youre a joke Josh. Always have been, always will be.
What was your question? Unlike you, I have no problem acknowledging and responding to statements I've made in the past. And even the statement you're referring to right above, I stand by that today. While I hope like hell I'm wrong, I believe it was an unbelievably terrible pick.
I also stated when we drafted Barkley, I thought he would be amazing, but I also thought it was the absolute wrong pick b/c of position value and how good I expected some of those QB's to be. I stand by that statement as well. You can make fun of those statements all you want and I can still think you're like most typically shortsighted fans.
That's why you sound so oblivious in your posts. You revert to name-calling and saying things like "5 other posters said the same thing" b/c you can't come up with an original thought and you realize your posts have no substance.
Still waiting for you to show me all the draft picks I've complained about aside from the first two picks in the past two drafts. But alas, you can't...b/c as usual, you're talking out of your ass. But keep making fun...you sound real cool.
Not only did you keep reiterating he was a terrible pick, you did it throughout the season when the guy should have obviously shut you up.
But looking smart probably isn't high on the priority list for you.
Then to call for Gettleman to be fired on draft night and much of the time since then? Yeah - you are pretty much a fucking moron.
Not only did you keep reiterating he was a terrible pick, you did it throughout the season when the guy should have obviously shut you up.
But looking smart probably isn't high on the priority list for you.
Then to call for Gettleman to be fired on draft night and much of the time since then? Yeah - you are pretty much a fucking moron.
As awesome as we was last year, nothings settled. We won 5 games. I wouldn't be taking any victory laps.
Not only did you keep reiterating he was a terrible pick, you did it throughout the season when the guy should have obviously shut you up.
But looking smart probably isn't high on the priority list for you.
Then to call for Gettleman to be fired on draft night and much of the time since then? Yeah - you are pretty much a fucking moron.
Dont forget he wanted to draft...
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
And Josh Allen
He got all his bases cover in case one actually has a productive career. Such acumen!!
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discussion alone should cement exactly what kind of acumen you have.
Not only did you keep reiterating he was a terrible pick, you did it throughout the season when the guy should have obviously shut you up.
But looking smart probably isn't high on the priority list for you.
Then to call for Gettleman to be fired on draft night and much of the time since then? Yeah - you are pretty much a fucking moron.
Dont forget he wanted to draft...
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
And Josh Allen
He got all his bases cover in case one actually has a productive career. Such acumen!!
Actually, I didn't want to draft all of them. I thought when we were drafting at #2 overall in what was considered one of the best QB classes in recent memory with a then 37 yr old QB at the end of his career that we should be drafting our future QB over any RB. But as usual, you will attempt to rewrite history to try and draw an inaccurate conclusion either due to your inability to understand basic team-building concepts or a conscious effort to manipulate the facts. This has predictably become your modus operandi and it's quite petty and pathetic.
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English next time. Don't even know what ☝️ is supposed to me.
Not worried about the SB pick in the least, he's one of the very best FOOTBALL players on the planet.
You mean 2018?
A bit early to reach that conclusion, no?
Fans need to understand that simply drafting the best player at any position just because you have a need for them, doesn't meant they were a smart (or the right or best) pick. You've got to believe in the player.
Not since the 1940's.
3 of them are now in the same division
Jets
Bills
Dolphins
The talk leading up to the draft was many talent evaluators did not hold the QB group in as high of regard at the draft as they did earlier in the scouting season, before complete evaluations were completed. Take it for what you will. The Giants were one of those teams, I shared that here at that time.
I'm a firm believer it is about fit as it is about anything else. John Dorsey just made Freddie Kitchens a head coach because of his relationship with Baker. Time will tell if this was a good decision or not, but I understand the thought process.