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Payasdaddy : 7/10/2019 6:46 pm
sound familiar?
He looked good in gmen offseason too
Gotta admit I did think he would make team last yr

Via Hughes, former Giantsí third-rounder Davis Webb had an impressive offseason program, so impressive that he apparently jumped Siemian late in the OTA process. Hughes writes that Webb was the second quarterback to take the field during the final set of OTAs.

Hughes adds that the Jets would like to keep only two quarterbacks on the final 53-man roster. Siemian, however, has $1 million of his one-year, $2 million contract fully guaranteed. (He already has earned a $750,000 signing bonus.) So cutting Siemian and keeping Webb (who has a non-guaranteed salary of $645,000) would create enhanced expense and wasted money.

It also would create the risk that, if the Jets need Siemian later, he wonít be available. Whether heís signed by another NFL team or by the fledgling XFL ó which plans to gobble up third- and fourth-string quarterbacks who are cut from NFL rosters ó Siemian could be long gone if/when an injury creates a reason to bring him back.

Ditto for Webb, who also could land with another team, or with the XFL.

Another option, as Hughes notes, would be to trade Webb, who was regarded as having a bright future before he washed out with the Giants. Maybe that future is getting brighter, whether itís with the Jets, another NFL team, or ultimately as one of the eight starters for Vince McMahonís resurrected spring league.
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So a guy averaging  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 10:37 am : link
over 30 TDs per season and over 4300 yards, with one offensive weapon, not in his prime of his career (33-35 hardly someone's prime) is something we should looked down upon?

You want to start what your consistently wrong about? Start there.
Oh QB rating  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 10:38 am : link
thats a cute way to explain why you have no clue what you are talking about. I see some great QBs up there. Tyrod Taylor, Macus Mariota, Alex Smith...

Please quit while you are ahead.
Oh lookie at what I can do....  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 10:43 am : link
Is thisnt fun? Ill actually use stats that matter....
TDs matter more - ( New Window )
Josh..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/12/2019 10:44 am : link
is that rare breed of poster that is pissed because the team didn't do what he wanted them to. He championed selecting a QB and when the team didn't do it - they were wrong.

Then he watched Barkley have an incredible year and still whined and bitched about not taking a QB.

All fucking year long.
Everyone is consistently wrong  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 10:45 am : link
per Dep. We have jackets.

But they are now on backorder...
Webb will very likely  
JonC : 7/12/2019 10:51 am : link
barely see an NFL gameday snap.
RE: Everyone is consistently wrong  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 10:53 am : link
In comment 14497260 Jimmy Googs said:
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per Dep. We have jackets.

But they are now on backorder...


Another post that has nothing to do with the content of the thread but to attack the poster. You're right, you arent a troll. You are an absolute nutjob who stalks other posters.

You are a very creepy dude.
RE: RE: Sounds like most  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 11:03 am : link
In comment 14497230 dep026 said:
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In comment 14497207 Josh in the City said:


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of you are quite defensive about a little joke that is virtually implausible to happen in reality. But unfortunately, that's what most posters on this site have become after having to incessantly defend Eli's ineptitude over the past decade and now transposing that sentiment towards Daniel Jones due to their insecurity over where he was drafted. Sad.



Can we still make fun of your insistent crying and complaining over everything you have been wrong about since you started posting here? Lot of material to work with....


this is creepy that you you have been stalking this poster since he started posting. And then attacking him.

kettle-pot...
RE: RE: RE: Sounds like most  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 11:04 am : link
In comment 14497284 Jimmy Googs said:
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this is creepy that you you have been stalking this poster since he started posting. And then attacking him.

kettle-pot...


And another post that doesnt consist with the material at hand....
RE: Sounds like most  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14497207 Josh in the City said:
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of you are quite defensive about a little joke that is virtually implausible to happen in reality. But unfortunately, that's what most posters on this site have become after having to incessantly defend Eli's ineptitude over the past decade and now transposing that sentiment towards Daniel Jones due to their insecurity over where he was drafted. Sad.


And you should read this post Googs before attacking others first.

Or maybe come up with an original, thoughtful post? Be a contributor for once, we would love to hear some factual insight from you...
Yes, we will all try to better manage your expectations  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 11:15 am : link
of what a strong poster should be like...



RE: Yes, we will all try to better manage your expectations  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 11:17 am : link
In comment 14497301 Jimmy Googs said:
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of what a strong poster should be like...




Sounds good... Ill be rooting for you.
Um,..that sounds a bit creepy  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 12:10 pm : link
.
RE: Oh lookie at what I can do....  
Josh in the City : 7/12/2019 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14497257 dep026 said:
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Is thisnt fun? Ill actually use stats that matter.... TDs matter more - ( New Window )

Isn't this even more fun. How about a stat that means every more than TD's? 23-25 record during that span. And yes, 33-35 is absolutely still the prime of most QB's careers in today's NFL. Or are you arguing that he's been on the decline for the past 7 yrs? Either way your argument sucks.
RECORD - ( New Window )
Oh I am sorry  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 12:44 pm : link
I forgot team record was solely on the QB. Want to do more fun facts?

From 2014-2016, Giants ranking:

rushing:
2014: 23th yards per game, 30th YPA
2015: 19th yards per game, 18th YPA
2016: 29th yards per game, 30th YPA

average: 22nd yards per game, 26th YPA

defense:
2014: 29th yards per game, 22nd points allowed
2015: 32nd yards per game, 30th points allowed
2016: 10th yards per game, 2nd points allowed

average: 22nd in yards per game, 18th in points allowed.

Give it up Josh. It's ok to admit when you are wrong.
And again  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 12:49 pm : link
this isnt to say Eli isnt responsible for the record of the last seven years, but when we are placing the blame solely on him like Josh did, it shows that there might be more agenda than opinion.

This season, we're going to find out what Eli has left  
UberAlias : 7/12/2019 1:04 pm : link
one way or another. All this bickering is pointless. By season end, you'll have been proven right or wrong. This is actually quite an intriguing storyline to the season, in my eyes. My guess is, we're going to see a whole lot of twisting the story to fit the narrative from somebody. Question is, who?
RE: This season, we're going to find out what Eli has left  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14497407 UberAlias said:
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one way or another. All this bickering is pointless. By season end, you'll have been proven right or wrong. This is actually quite an intriguing storyline to the season, in my eyes. My guess is, we're going to see a whole lot of twisting the story to fit the narrative from somebody. Question is, who?


We are already assuming the defense is going to be good and the OL will be a positive?

I mean hell, I am as positive as the next guy as the direction of the team, but lets not assume before training camp starts.
So if the defense struggles and the oline is average  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 1:13 pm : link
we won't be able to judge Eli?

how come?

RE: So if the defense struggles and the oline is average  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14497420 Jimmy Googs said:
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we won't be able to judge Eli?

how come?


Defense struggling means we are one dimensional and not have the ball a lot, and an average OL means inconsistent play from everyone. Not too hard.
Its not too hard because  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 1:38 pm : link
its a pretty shallow thought process.

This is not in opposition of him, but at some point the defenders of the faith are going to need to submit that Eli can be reasonably and fairly judged under many conditions...

RE: Its not too hard because  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14497449 Jimmy Googs said:
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its a pretty shallow thought process.

This is not in opposition of him, but at some point the defenders of the faith are going to need to submit that Eli can be reasonably and fairly judged under many conditions...


defenders of faith? Try to grow up a little bit?

How could you judge someone when the play around him is AVERAGE at best? Oh wait, you are never wrong...

I forgot...
RE: And again  
Josh in the City : 7/12/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14497395 dep026 said:
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this isnt to say Eli isnt responsible for the record of the last seven years, but when we are placing the blame solely on him like Josh did, it shows that there might be more agenda than opinion.

Are you deliberately trying to sound clueless? What's Eli's record the past 6 yrs? I'll help you...it's 38-57. Only a clueless homer would say that's acceptable from a QB.
Lol  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:47 pm : link
Thereís someone clueless on this thread Josh, and it ainít me.

Check out the stats I provided (team stats) before posting more nonsense.
So QBs can only be fairly judged when the team around them  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 1:47 pm : link
is good or at least better than average.

This is what you want to attest to?
RE: So QBs can only be fairly judged when the team around them  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:49 pm : link
In comment 14497472 Jimmy Googs said:
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is good or at least better than average.

This is what you want to attest to?


They should. I know fans donít. But itís pretty much assumed that fans are pretty clueless. I mean look at one poster blaming Eli for our losing the last 7 years. Doesnít get much worse than that.
It's pretty impressive to see both sides of a position  
Mad Mike : 7/12/2019 1:50 pm : link
make themselves look silly.
RE: Lol  
Josh in the City : 7/12/2019 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14497471 dep026 said:
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Thereís someone clueless on this thread Josh, and it ainít me.

Check out the stats I provided (team stats) before posting more nonsense.

Sorry to burst your bubble...but yea, it's you!
Yeah seems reasonable  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 2:20 pm : link
Blame team record on one player... haha.

So insightful.
RE: Yeah seems reasonable  
Josh in the City : 7/12/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14497543 dep026 said:
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Blame team record on one player... haha.

So insightful.

Name another top QB who has had such a shitty record for a 6 yr period...
Hereís one  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 3:10 pm : link
Archie Manning...
RE: Hereís one  
Josh in the City : 7/12/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14497625 Jimmy Googs said:
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Archie Manning...


LOL...how about over the past decade or two?
I thought that was a lol too but Dep hasnít given me credit yet  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 3:25 pm : link
Btw Josh- not for nothing but your posts can be viewed that you do indeed blame the QB too much. Just sayiní...

Can we get back to Davis webb being incompetent?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/12/2019 3:47 pm : link
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Of course Webb is useless  
Jimmy Googs : 7/12/2019 4:55 pm : link
Anybody who couldnít hold down the backup QB job to Eli Manning has to be. It simply may be the easiest position to maintain in professional sports history...
meh  
fanofthejets : 7/12/2019 7:11 pm : link
Ultimately it would shock me if Webb beats out Semian. Semian is a middling starter but a top backup and if god forbid something happens to Sam...he's a guy you'd have confidence in to at least be a low risk game manager for a few weeks

That said Webb has surprised a lot of people and hope he keeps it up. Could be some trade value building here
RE: I thought that was a lol too but Dep hasnít given me credit yet  
Josh in the City : 7/12/2019 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14497636 Jimmy Googs said:
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Btw Josh- not for nothing but your posts can be viewed that you do indeed blame the QB too much. Just sayiní...


100% Iím hard on the QB. Itís the most important position on the field and ultimately the one most responsible for wins and losses in my eyes. Thats not to say Eli is 100% culpable for the Giants recent ineptitude. But he absolutely deserves a disproportionate share of the blame.
And yes  
Josh in the City : 7/12/2019 9:18 pm : link
Davis Webb sucks. Even though I had high hopes from him when he was here bc of all the glowing reviews and work ethic we heard out of training camp.
RE: meh  
Jay on the Island : 7/12/2019 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14497770 fanofthejets said:
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Ultimately it would shock me if Webb beats out Semian. Semian is a middling starter but a top backup and if god forbid something happens to Sam...he's a guy you'd have confidence in to at least be a low risk game manager for a few weeks

That said Webb has surprised a lot of people and hope he keeps it up. Could be some trade value building here

No there is no value building there. There is no new tape on Webb since the Giants cut him and every team passed on claiming him for free.

The coaches raved about him last year and look what happened. There is not going to be a market for Webb just because a few coaches praise him once again.
RE: Josh..  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/13/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14497259 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is that rare breed of poster that is pissed because the team didn't do what he wanted them to. He championed selecting a QB and when the team didn't do it - they were wrong.

Then he watched Barkley have an incredible year and still
whined and bitched about not taking a QB.

All fucking year long.

FTFY. Although it's really every year that Josh whines. It's all he does. I'm still waiting for the first draft pick that he actually likes.
RE: meh  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/13/2019 11:17 am : link
In comment 14497770 fanofthejets said:
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Ultimately it would shock me if Webb beats out Semian. Semian is a middling starter but a top backup and if god forbid something happens to Sam...he's a guy you'd have confidence in to at least be a low risk game manager for a few weeks

That said Webb has surprised a lot of people and hope he keeps it up. Could be some trade value building here

You're still here?

What you go back to whatever Jets hole you crawled out of and take your backwards views of humanity with you, troll.
RE: RE: Josh..  
Josh in the City : 7/13/2019 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14498009 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14497259 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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is that rare breed of poster that is pissed because the team didn't do what he wanted them to. He championed selecting a QB and when the team didn't do it - they were wrong.

Then he watched Barkley have an incredible year and still whined and bitched about not taking a QB.

All fucking year long.


FTFY. Although it's really every year that Josh whines. It's all he does. I'm still waiting for the first draft pick that he actually likes.


I've actually loved our overall drafts the past two years. Just thought we made the wrong first pick in both.
LMAO  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 3:53 pm : link
I havenít seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.
RE: LMAO  
Mad Mike : 7/13/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14498117 dep026 said:
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I havenít seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.

Well played.
RE: LMAO  
Josh in the City : 7/13/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14498117 dep026 said:
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I havenít seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.

Then show me where I complained about any other pick. Otherwise stfu thanks.
Dep doesnít prove anything, only accuses posters on theme  
Jimmy Googs : 7/13/2019 7:57 pm : link
He just assumes your lying and you have to show otherwise.

Actually quite smart albeit boorish...

Another  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 8:14 pm : link
Personal attack without context to the thread...

Creepy Stalker....
RE: RE: LMAO  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 8:23 pm : link
In comment 14498213 Josh in the City said:
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In comment 14498117 dep026 said:


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I havenít seen a back peddle like that since Prime Deion.


Then show me where I complained about any other pick. Otherwise stfu thanks.


See hereís the thing Josh. YouĒre incessant whining and crying over the Barkley pick than the Daniel Jones pick takes up so much of this hoard when it happened, no one bothered reading another thing of yours. You cried about it before, during, and after the draft.

And your constant bitching of Barkley over Darnold I find HIGHLY amusing since you HATED Darnold before the draft and wanted us to draft Josh Allen. Now Iím sure youíre going to deny you never wanted Darnold, but everyone on this thread knows itís not true. Then you were all over trading for Rosen when again - you didnít even want him before the draft last year.

If thereís one thing thatís constant about draft time. Youíre not big and complaining.
I never really thought to  
crick n NC : 7/13/2019 8:23 pm : link
Even use "thanks" after I tell someone to stfu. Thanks for the tip.
We need more great insight like this on BBI....  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 8:31 pm : link
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Heís fucking horrible
Josh in the City : 4/25/2019 10:57 pm : link
Sorry there is no sugar coating it. Will go down as the worst pick and biggest reach in franchise history. Taking a day 3 guy at 6 overall. Doesnít get any worse. Fire gettleman!
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