For those who haven't seen this already, the video is going pretty viral. An angry little man goes into Bagel Boss here on Long Island to get his bagel then proceeds to...well, lose his shit.
There are a few different sites out there with the video, but this link captures the before and after.
Lesson to be learned here, women on dating apps probably aren't looking for guys under 5'.
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So crazy to think how many incidents like this we missed before cell phone videos became ubiquitous.
So crazy to think how many incidents like this we missed before cell phone videos became ubiquitous.
He may yet be a fake...
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And he ripped off this bit from the Michael Douglas movie Falling Down:
Bill Foster: You're Korean? Do you have any idea how much money my country has given your country?
Mr. Lee: How much?
Bill Foster: I don't know. But, it's gotta be a lot.
Fighting at a 7/11
Fighting at a Sports Bar
As you can imagine, much of the language in these videos is NSFW.
To be clear, this guy is a mean, bitter asshole. He lashed out at innocent people and looked to start trouble and welcomed the fight he received. But his anger that largely stems from his disadvantages due to his height. And it has so poisoned him that his focus and rage about only further makes him undesirable.
I pity this man and I empathize with him. Most people don't realize how disadvantageous it is to be a short man in our society. From the average heights of presidents and CEOs (which reflect the psychological impact of literally looking up or looking down at someone), but even more so in the dating scene.
Being short sucks in the dating scene. Most women want a guy who is taller than they are, or at least the same height. Then throw in that most women wear heels when they go out on dates and it severely limits the pool of women who are interested in short men.
The 20th percentile of female height is over 5'1. Throw on 2-inch heels, and a 5'3 man in the dating scene is shorter than 80% of women.
I'm 5'3 and happily married. But there was a lot of outright rejection from women who wouldn't consider dating me because of my height or would laugh at the thought of me because of my height. It sucked at times, but fortunately, I was able to get over it as a teenager and worked on improving parts of my life I could control-- my social skills, my education, my dress, my fitness, etc. I was able to play the numbers game and still went out with plenty of women where my height wasn't an issue, including many women who were much taller.
Now, there are some men on this site who are probably 5'7 or 5'8 and can relate in some way to being below average height and thinking this guy is a psycho. But there is a massive difference even between being 5'3 and 5'7. The median female is 5'4. Even in heels, a "short" 5'7 guy is taller than most women. There is still a much bigger dating pool. Every little bit shorter a guy gets, it has a more severe impact on his status in our society.
This guy looks to be 4'11 or 5'0. While I empathize with a lot of his struggles, I couldn't imagine just how much harder it was for him to find dates than it even was for me at 5'3. Some people just can't get over that hump. He likely faced a lot of humiliation not just from women growing up but also from other men.
But instead of being able to ignore it and focus on improving other areas of himself, he internalized all that rejection and it became his entire identity. Instead of overcoming his height to have a winning personality, the rage and anger won. And now he seems the entire world through the lens of being a laughed-at little man, and it has made him even more undesirable to anyone because his personality is even less desirable than his height.
He needs therapy.
But with that, he carries himself as if he was 4'3 instead of carrying himself like he's 6'3. When I was single, I would beg him to go out with me and meet people. But he was so downtrodden over his stature that he couldn't even handle being in a bar. He said he felt worse than rejected.. he felt invisible.
So then I insisted he get on dating apps. We live in New York City. I'm sure it's tremendously hard at 5'3, but certainly not impossible, and there are a lot of girls who are checking in around the 5 foot mark who actually don't want a tall man because they feel freakishly small. But he's just so unconfident because of it that he no longer even tries.
He drugs himself on a regular basis, and I don't just mean booze and weed. I mean serious psychedelics that have screwed up his mind. It's been brutally sad to see, because he deserves better. He's gone into therapy a few times but nothing ever stuck, probably because he was legitimately smarter than the people trying to help him and he couldn't see past that.
I'm rooting for him from afar now, but for 5 years I had a first hand look into how being very short (not just a little short) can really impact a person.
Make an ass of yourself in public, film it, get a zillion people to watch it, then start cashing in on social media.
Maybe?
There has to be a midget dating site, right? Brett?
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I had the most success online because my height was listed and accepted. Even then, you'd be surprised how many women would still "you're not really 5'3 are you?". As if I would lie to make myself shorter. Only Kevin Durant does that.
It could be tough. And it's seemingly okay in our society for women to bring up men's heights which they can't control... But of a man brings up a woman's weight, which is largely controllable... Watch out
But you either get over it or it cripples you because my height was never going to chsnge.
For this guy, it crippled him
Make an ass of yourself in public, film it, get a zillion people to watch it, then start cashing in on social media.
Maybe?
I might be naive, and your take is very, very valid. I just can't help but think this guy is legit.
It could be tough. And it's seemingly okay in our society for women to bring up men's heights which they can't control... But of a man brings up a woman's weight, which is largely controllable... Watch out
Always amazed at this double standard. Not so much for name-calling as I think the standard is the same there. Don't make fun of people for their appearance. Simple as that.
But when it comes to dating, a woman will be offended if you tell her that you wouldn't date someone because they were too fat (even if you're talking to a woman who's in shape) but then she'll have no problem saying she wouldn't date a guy under a certain height.
Met my current sig other later in life. I'm 5'2". She's shorter. she says she wouldn't have given me a second look if she had met me when she was younger. Now that she's older, she's willing to settle, er, appreciate aspects other than height.
I admit, though, on the occasions I see other guys close to my height, it looks weird. they look tiny. women don't.
There has to be a midget dating site, right? Brett?
Oh, there is.
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I had the most success online because my height was listed and accepted. Even then, you'd be surprised how many women would still "you're not really 5'3 are you?". As if I would lie to make myself shorter. Only Kevin Durant does that.
It could be tough. And it's seemingly okay in our society for women to bring up men's heights which they can't control... But of a man brings up a woman's weight, which is largely controllable... Watch out
Always amazed at this double standard. Not so much for name-calling as I think the standard is the same there. Don't make fun of people for their appearance. Simple as that.
But when it comes to dating, a woman will be offended if you tell her that you wouldn't date someone because they were too fat (even if you're talking to a woman who's in shape) but then she'll have no problem saying she wouldn't date a guy under a certain height.
That's because there's a good chance the woman will be fat* at some point and she's testing how you might react to that. There's basically 0 chance you'll ever shrink.
*to many women. pregnant = fat
Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole.
not like you
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you should join the midget dating site. You'd be a giant, right? What are most midgets, 3 feet? 4 feet?
There has to be a midget dating site, right? Brett?
Oh, there is.
'mini meet' if you"re interested
Never saw an ounce of self confidence issues. Fact is guy could take over a room if he wanted to
I attribute the temper more to the crazy Italian but of course some could just be being short also
Had no fear either. Wish I had a conversation with him about it. He would throw Frazier like left hooks to my jaw until I was around 15 and could just keep him at bay :)
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you should join the midget dating site. You'd be a giant, right? What are most midgets, 3 feet? 4 feet?
There has to be a midget dating site, right? Brett?
Oh, there is.
'mini meet' if you"re interested
LOL, awesome. I knew it had to exist.
And thanks, but I'm not interested, midgets are creepy. no offense.
While it's not nearly as bad in this country, I do empathize with the difficulties faced by people with some type of physical shortfalls (no pun intended). It's a rough world out there since superficiality is the norm these days.
Having said that, I've known many shorter guys (5'3"-5'5"), who carried themselves with so much confidence that even taller guys were in awe of their confidence. But these guys really focused on working on their other attributes such as fitness, humor, etc.
The really short dudes should seek out the really tall girls. They often have trouble finding dates too. My wife used to have a good friend who was about 6'1" in bare feet and 6'5" in heels. She was an attractive woman with a nice body and a pleasant personality, but she rarely dated because most men don't want a girlfriend who is taller than they are.
Made me laugh out loud.
To be clear, this guy is a mean, bitter asshole. He lashed out at innocent people and looked to start trouble and welcomed the fight he received. But his anger that largely stems from his disadvantages due to his height. And it has so poisoned him that his focus and rage about only further makes him undesirable.
I pity this man and I empathize with him. Most people don't realize how disadvantageous it is to be a short man in our society. From the average heights of presidents and CEOs (which reflect the psychological impact of literally looking up or looking down at someone), but even more so in the dating scene.
Being short sucks in the dating scene. Most women want a guy who is taller than they are, or at least the same height. Then throw in that most women wear heels when they go out on dates and it severely limits the pool of women who are interested in short men.
The 20th percentile of female height is over 5'1. Throw on 2-inch heels, and a 5'3 man in the dating scene is shorter than 80% of women.
I'm 5'3 and happily married. But there was a lot of outright rejection from women who wouldn't consider dating me because of my height or would laugh at the thought of me because of my height. It sucked at times, but fortunately, I was able to get over it as a teenager and worked on improving parts of my life I could control-- my social skills, my education, my dress, my fitness, etc. I was able to play the numbers game and still went out with plenty of women where my height wasn't an issue, including many women who were much taller.
Now, there are some men on this site who are probably 5'7 or 5'8 and can relate in some way to being below average height and thinking this guy is a psycho. But there is a massive difference even between being 5'3 and 5'7. The median female is 5'4. Even in heels, a "short" 5'7 guy is taller than most women. There is still a much bigger dating pool. Every little bit shorter a guy gets, it has a more severe impact on his status in our society.
This guy looks to be 4'11 or 5'0. While I empathize with a lot of his struggles, I couldn't imagine just how much harder it was for him to find dates than it even was for me at 5'3. Some people just can't get over that hump. He likely faced a lot of humiliation not just from women growing up but also from other men.
But instead of being able to ignore it and focus on improving other areas of himself, he internalized all that rejection and it became his entire identity. Instead of overcoming his height to have a winning personality, the rage and anger won. And now he seems the entire world through the lens of being a laughed-at little man, and it has made him even more undesirable to anyone because his personality is even less desirable than his height.
He needs therapy.
This x 100. He does need help and while this wasn't the forum to air his grievances, he is right about women looking down (no pun intended) on short guys.
You could be smart, funny, good-looking...and for many women, that's not enough unless you're 6' or taller. I remember there was some kind of impromptu survey of women where many said they'd rather date a tall ugly guy instead of a short good-looking guy.
No such thing.
You could be smart, funny, good-looking...and for many women, that's not enough unless you're 6' or taller. I remember there was some kind of impromptu survey of women where many said they'd rather date a tall ugly guy instead of a short good-looking guy.
While this may be true, where this goes from stating an observation to something toxic is to begin attributing to women all of the reasons why a guy can't get a girlfriend or even laid rather than looking at oneself beyond some physical shortfalls. Incels (that's what they're called, right?) fall squarely into this group since they believe that women are solely to blame for their inability to succeed with the opposite sex, when in most cases, these dude have major character flaws that will turn anyone off whether they were 6'2" or whatever.
There are plenty of ugly dudes, short dudes, poor dudes, who have met loving people of the opposite sex. They do it because they're often not raging assholes.