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figgy2989 : 7/11/2019 10:20 am
For those who haven't seen this already, the video is going pretty viral. An angry little man goes into Bagel Boss here on Long Island to get his bagel then proceeds to...well, lose his shit.

There are a few different sites out there with the video, but this link captures the before and after.

Lesson to be learned here, women on dating apps probably aren't looking for guys under 5'.
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BrettNYG10 : 7/11/2019 10:22 am : link
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Lesson to be learned here, women on dating apps probably aren't looking for guys under 5' 6'.


FTFY
I don't care if you're 5''7"  
Metnut : 7/11/2019 10:26 am : link
just put down 6 feet on your dating app profile.
short man syndrome  
giants#1 : 7/11/2019 10:28 am : link
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When I first saw the video  
pjcas18 : 7/11/2019 10:30 am : link
I thought it was fake. the guy reminded me of George Costanza. I thought for sure he was acting. There is a second video where he comes back into the store and yells at a female clerk who laughs at him.

So crazy to think how many incidents like this we missed before cell phone videos became ubiquitous.

Free  
DanMetroMan : 7/11/2019 10:38 am : link
mini bagel if you mention this video at bagel boss... not kidding lol
RE: When I first saw the video  
DanMetroMan : 7/11/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14496548 pjcas18 said:
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I thought it was fake. the guy reminded me of George Costanza. I thought for sure he was acting. There is a second video where he comes back into the store and yells at a female clerk who laughs at him.

So crazy to think how many incidents like this we missed before cell phone videos became ubiquitous.


He may yet be a fake...
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I like his verve.  
GiantsUA : 7/11/2019 10:42 am : link
But, I suggest he get's to a gym asap, not only is he short but he looks out of shape.
Whoa! That dude is a ticking time bomb  
GiantJake : 7/11/2019 10:42 am : link
A tiny, little, angry time bomb. It's all the bagel lady's fault. She's gotta stop that smiling shit out.
It must be brutal to go through life without getting a nibble.  
Lurts : 7/11/2019 10:44 am : link
Sex drive is hardwired, not a choice (for most of us?). To get an unrelenting diet of "No shot" looks and smirks would lead me to a nihilistic rage, too, I imagine.
Not saying its alright for him to act like that  
j_rud : 7/11/2019 10:45 am : link
but the whole spectacle of it, I dunno, its kinda sad. That guy shouldnt have tackled him either. You have to wonder if he'd have done it if it was an average sized guy. Kind of a chicken shit move IMO.
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Greg from LI : 7/11/2019 10:46 am : link
In comment 14496554 DanMetroMan said:
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He may yet be a fake... Link - ( New Window )


And he ripped off this bit from the Michael Douglas movie Falling Down:

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The cashier politely answers that he’s from Pakistan, to which the nightmare customer retorts, “Really? Do you know how much money our country gives you? F–king Third World toilet countries.”


Bill Foster: You're Korean? Do you have any idea how much money my country has given your country?

Mr. Lee: How much?

Bill Foster: I don't know. But, it's gotta be a lot.
Geez, I miss Long Island...  
MattyKid : 7/11/2019 10:48 am : link
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I live about 25 minutes away from Bayshore  
Jay on the Island : 7/11/2019 10:50 am : link
This guy has some serious issues. On his facebook page he has other videos of him flipping out in a library, bar, 7-11, etc.

I've been to that Bagel place hundreds of times.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2019 10:51 am : link
Too funny whether this is real or not.
Dude is absolutely batshit crazy.  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2019 10:53 am : link
He's been filming himself fighting with people for years. And if your first thought is that he's putting on an act to be viral, that's fair, but I genuinely believe he's unstable maniac who constantly feels victimized.

Fighting at a 7/11

Fighting at a Sports Bar

As you can imagine, much of the language in these videos is NSFW.
it's a shame that this  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/11/2019 10:56 am : link
guy who actually needs help-- needs therapy-- to deal with his perceived humiliation is now getting blown up virally to further shame and humiliate him. He's having a meltdown and I hope this very public humiliation doesn't lead to him harming himself, or even worse, harming others.

To be clear, this guy is a mean, bitter asshole. He lashed out at innocent people and looked to start trouble and welcomed the fight he received. But his anger that largely stems from his disadvantages due to his height. And it has so poisoned him that his focus and rage about only further makes him undesirable.

I pity this man and I empathize with him. Most people don't realize how disadvantageous it is to be a short man in our society. From the average heights of presidents and CEOs (which reflect the psychological impact of literally looking up or looking down at someone), but even more so in the dating scene.

Being short sucks in the dating scene. Most women want a guy who is taller than they are, or at least the same height. Then throw in that most women wear heels when they go out on dates and it severely limits the pool of women who are interested in short men.

The 20th percentile of female height is over 5'1. Throw on 2-inch heels, and a 5'3 man in the dating scene is shorter than 80% of women.

I'm 5'3 and happily married. But there was a lot of outright rejection from women who wouldn't consider dating me because of my height or would laugh at the thought of me because of my height. It sucked at times, but fortunately, I was able to get over it as a teenager and worked on improving parts of my life I could control-- my social skills, my education, my dress, my fitness, etc. I was able to play the numbers game and still went out with plenty of women where my height wasn't an issue, including many women who were much taller.

Now, there are some men on this site who are probably 5'7 or 5'8 and can relate in some way to being below average height and thinking this guy is a psycho. But there is a massive difference even between being 5'3 and 5'7. The median female is 5'4. Even in heels, a "short" 5'7 guy is taller than most women. There is still a much bigger dating pool. Every little bit shorter a guy gets, it has a more severe impact on his status in our society.

This guy looks to be 4'11 or 5'0. While I empathize with a lot of his struggles, I couldn't imagine just how much harder it was for him to find dates than it even was for me at 5'3. Some people just can't get over that hump. He likely faced a lot of humiliation not just from women growing up but also from other men.

But instead of being able to ignore it and focus on improving other areas of himself, he internalized all that rejection and it became his entire identity. Instead of overcoming his height to have a winning personality, the rage and anger won. And now he seems the entire world through the lens of being a laughed-at little man, and it has made him even more undesirable to anyone because his personality is even less desirable than his height.

He needs therapy.
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Chris in Philly : 7/11/2019 11:00 am : link
PaulBlakeTSU  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2019 11:06 am : link
Great post. My roommate until just about this time last year is 5'3. This is a guy who I'd sit and watch Jeopardy with and he'd get 80% of the answers. His face is, in my opinion, what you would call handsome. His personality is also great. Loves good music, and with that, is a talented pianist. Lastly, he's a genuinely kind person. The guy who will drop what he's doing to come pick you up from the airport if you needed it, no matter how busy or tired he is. Really, if you're a woman, he is the whole package, minus being 5'3.

But with that, he carries himself as if he was 4'3 instead of carrying himself like he's 6'3. When I was single, I would beg him to go out with me and meet people. But he was so downtrodden over his stature that he couldn't even handle being in a bar. He said he felt worse than rejected.. he felt invisible.

So then I insisted he get on dating apps. We live in New York City. I'm sure it's tremendously hard at 5'3, but certainly not impossible, and there are a lot of girls who are checking in around the 5 foot mark who actually don't want a tall man because they feel freakishly small. But he's just so unconfident because of it that he no longer even tries.

He drugs himself on a regular basis, and I don't just mean booze and weed. I mean serious psychedelics that have screwed up his mind. It's been brutally sad to see, because he deserves better. He's gone into therapy a few times but nothing ever stuck, probably because he was legitimately smarter than the people trying to help him and he couldn't see past that.

I'm rooting for him from afar now, but for 5 years I had a first hand look into how being very short (not just a little short) can really impact a person.
You're short, you have no marketable skills  
jcn56 : 7/11/2019 11:08 am : link
so what's the quickest way to earning a quick buck?

Make an ass of yourself in public, film it, get a zillion people to watch it, then start cashing in on social media.

Maybe?
If you're 5 feet tall  
pjcas18 : 7/11/2019 11:08 am : link
you should join the midget dating site. You'd be a giant, right? What are most midgets, 3 feet? 4 feet?

There has to be a midget dating site, right? Brett?
According to the Daily Mail  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2019 11:16 am : link
He's 45 and divorced. And very crazy. He fancies himself the modern day Martin Luther King.
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Mike  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/11/2019 11:16 am : link
Going out to clubs was where I used to have the hardest time because it was loud and only my height registered. Bars I could at least talk.

I had the most success online because my height was listed and accepted. Even then, you'd be surprised how many women would still "you're not really 5'3 are you?". As if I would lie to make myself shorter. Only Kevin Durant does that.

It could be tough. And it's seemingly okay in our society for women to bring up men's heights which they can't control... But of a man brings up a woman's weight, which is largely controllable... Watch out


But you either get over it or it cripples you because my height was never going to chsnge.

For this guy, it crippled him


RE: You're short, you have no marketable skills  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14496578 jcn56 said:
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so what's the quickest way to earning a quick buck?

Make an ass of yourself in public, film it, get a zillion people to watch it, then start cashing in on social media.

Maybe?


I might be naive, and your take is very, very valid. I just can't help but think this guy is legit.
Yup  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2019 11:20 am : link
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I had the most success online because my height was listed and accepted. Even then, you'd be surprised how many women would still "you're not really 5'3 are you?". As if I would lie to make myself shorter. Only Kevin Durant does that.

It could be tough. And it's seemingly okay in our society for women to bring up men's heights which they can't control... But of a man brings up a woman's weight, which is largely controllable... Watch out


Always amazed at this double standard. Not so much for name-calling as I think the standard is the same there. Don't make fun of people for their appearance. Simple as that.

But when it comes to dating, a woman will be offended if you tell her that you wouldn't date someone because they were too fat (even if you're talking to a woman who's in shape) but then she'll have no problem saying she wouldn't date a guy under a certain height.
Love Bagel Boss.....place is tremendous  
csb : 7/11/2019 11:20 am : link
This is hysterical though
PaulBlake  
fkap : 7/11/2019 11:24 am : link
True words of wisdom.

Met my current sig other later in life. I'm 5'2". She's shorter. she says she wouldn't have given me a second look if she had met me when she was younger. Now that she's older, she's willing to settle, er, appreciate aspects other than height.

I admit, though, on the occasions I see other guys close to my height, it looks weird. they look tiny. women don't.
RE: If you're 5 feet tall  
BrettNYG10 : 7/11/2019 11:29 am : link
In comment 14496580 pjcas18 said:
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you should join the midget dating site. You'd be a giant, right? What are most midgets, 3 feet? 4 feet?

There has to be a midget dating site, right? Brett?


Oh, there is.
If Darwinism was real, there wouldn't be men under 6'.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/11/2019 11:29 am : link
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heard this guy  
lightemup : 7/11/2019 11:45 am : link
on hot 97 on the morning show. He's just a broken man that has dealt with this his entire life. I get why he's angry, but he's a garbage human being because he chooses to be that way or he truly is mentally ill. Said he was seeing a therapist and was on medication, but decided to stop all that. I have no sympathy for this guy
I bet he hated...  
Racer : 7/11/2019 11:54 am : link
...the Jones pick.
Fast forward to the 8 minute mark  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2019 11:58 am : link
As mentioned by lightemup, he called into Hot 97 this morning. Interview below. It's exactly what you'd expect.
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RE: Yup  
giants#1 : 7/11/2019 11:58 am : link
In comment 14496597 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I had the most success online because my height was listed and accepted. Even then, you'd be surprised how many women would still "you're not really 5'3 are you?". As if I would lie to make myself shorter. Only Kevin Durant does that.

It could be tough. And it's seemingly okay in our society for women to bring up men's heights which they can't control... But of a man brings up a woman's weight, which is largely controllable... Watch out



Always amazed at this double standard. Not so much for name-calling as I think the standard is the same there. Don't make fun of people for their appearance. Simple as that.

But when it comes to dating, a woman will be offended if you tell her that you wouldn't date someone because they were too fat (even if you're talking to a woman who's in shape) but then she'll have no problem saying she wouldn't date a guy under a certain height.


That's because there's a good chance the woman will be fat* at some point and she's testing how you might react to that. There's basically 0 chance you'll ever shrink.

*to many women. pregnant = fat
well he was only 5 foot 3  
fkap : 7/11/2019 12:00 pm : link
but girls could not resist his stare.
Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole.

not like you
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lightemup : 7/11/2019 12:00 pm : link
In comment 14496606 BrettNYG10 said:
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you should join the midget dating site. You'd be a giant, right? What are most midgets, 3 feet? 4 feet?

There has to be a midget dating site, right? Brett?



Oh, there is.


'mini meet' if you"re interested
I am 5’11. My father was only 5’3  
Payasdaddy : 7/11/2019 12:02 pm : link
Had a temper like joe Pesci in good fellows ( too much) but besides that
Never saw an ounce of self confidence issues. Fact is guy could take over a room if he wanted to
I attribute the temper more to the crazy Italian but of course some could just be being short also
Had no fear either. Wish I had a conversation with him about it. He would throw Frazier like left hooks to my jaw until I was around 15 and could just keep him at bay :)
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pjcas18 : 7/11/2019 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14496636 lightemup said:
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In comment 14496606 BrettNYG10 said:


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In comment 14496580 pjcas18 said:


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you should join the midget dating site. You'd be a giant, right? What are most midgets, 3 feet? 4 feet?

There has to be a midget dating site, right? Brett?



Oh, there is.



'mini meet' if you"re interested


LOL, awesome. I knew it had to exist.

And thanks, but I'm not interested, midgets are creepy. no offense.

Him and the famous Turkish dwarf Baba  
Deejboy : 7/11/2019 12:07 pm : link
would get along great

Deejboy  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2019 12:07 pm : link
Baba is a LEGEND haha. One of my favorites.
A bit off topic...  
RC in MD : 7/11/2019 12:15 pm : link
but I remember reading several articles regarding shorter men in China going through extreme measures (bone lengthening process of the shins, etc.) to get taller because in China much of the modern culture (and number of eligible women vs eligible men being so skewed due to the one child policy) puts a pretty high premium in a man's height when it comes to job, marriage, etc. prospects.

While it's not nearly as bad in this country, I do empathize with the difficulties faced by people with some type of physical shortfalls (no pun intended). It's a rough world out there since superficiality is the norm these days.

Having said that, I've known many shorter guys (5'3"-5'5"), who carried themselves with so much confidence that even taller guys were in awe of their confidence. But these guys really focused on working on their other attributes such as fitness, humor, etc.
I'm merely short (5'7") rather than incredibly short  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2019 12:31 pm : link
My wife did tell me that I was the only boyfriend she'd ever had that was shorter than 6 feet tall

The really short dudes should seek out the really tall girls. They often have trouble finding dates too. My wife used to have a good friend who was about 6'1" in bare feet and 6'5" in heels. She was an attractive woman with a nice body and a pleasant personality, but she rarely dated because most men don't want a girlfriend who is taller than they are.
Then of course  
Jay in Toronto : 7/11/2019 12:48 pm : link
there is the 'Napoleon complex.'
For the record before anyone asks....  
rnargi : 7/11/2019 12:50 pm : link
...it wasn't me...
Obviously this guy is short-tempered.  
Klaatu : 7/11/2019 12:56 pm : link
....
No wonder BBI gets so bitchy & miserable at times.  
Motley Two : 7/11/2019 1:08 pm : link
Bunch of angry little dudes on here.
RE: No wonder BBI gets so bitchy & miserable at times.  
Sean : 7/11/2019 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14496715 Motley Two said:
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Bunch of angry little dudes on here.


Made me laugh out loud.
Even @ 4’11”....  
thrunthrublue : 7/11/2019 1:53 pm : link
He’d be a better choice than the happily departed flowers.....
RE: it's a shame that this  
Anakim : 7/11/2019 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14496570 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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guy who actually needs help-- needs therapy-- to deal with his perceived humiliation is now getting blown up virally to further shame and humiliate him. He's having a meltdown and I hope this very public humiliation doesn't lead to him harming himself, or even worse, harming others.

To be clear, this guy is a mean, bitter asshole. He lashed out at innocent people and looked to start trouble and welcomed the fight he received. But his anger that largely stems from his disadvantages due to his height. And it has so poisoned him that his focus and rage about only further makes him undesirable.

I pity this man and I empathize with him. Most people don't realize how disadvantageous it is to be a short man in our society. From the average heights of presidents and CEOs (which reflect the psychological impact of literally looking up or looking down at someone), but even more so in the dating scene.

Being short sucks in the dating scene. Most women want a guy who is taller than they are, or at least the same height. Then throw in that most women wear heels when they go out on dates and it severely limits the pool of women who are interested in short men.

The 20th percentile of female height is over 5'1. Throw on 2-inch heels, and a 5'3 man in the dating scene is shorter than 80% of women.

I'm 5'3 and happily married. But there was a lot of outright rejection from women who wouldn't consider dating me because of my height or would laugh at the thought of me because of my height. It sucked at times, but fortunately, I was able to get over it as a teenager and worked on improving parts of my life I could control-- my social skills, my education, my dress, my fitness, etc. I was able to play the numbers game and still went out with plenty of women where my height wasn't an issue, including many women who were much taller.

Now, there are some men on this site who are probably 5'7 or 5'8 and can relate in some way to being below average height and thinking this guy is a psycho. But there is a massive difference even between being 5'3 and 5'7. The median female is 5'4. Even in heels, a "short" 5'7 guy is taller than most women. There is still a much bigger dating pool. Every little bit shorter a guy gets, it has a more severe impact on his status in our society.

This guy looks to be 4'11 or 5'0. While I empathize with a lot of his struggles, I couldn't imagine just how much harder it was for him to find dates than it even was for me at 5'3. Some people just can't get over that hump. He likely faced a lot of humiliation not just from women growing up but also from other men.

But instead of being able to ignore it and focus on improving other areas of himself, he internalized all that rejection and it became his entire identity. Instead of overcoming his height to have a winning personality, the rage and anger won. And now he seems the entire world through the lens of being a laughed-at little man, and it has made him even more undesirable to anyone because his personality is even less desirable than his height.

He needs therapy.


This x 100. He does need help and while this wasn't the forum to air his grievances, he is right about women looking down (no pun intended) on short guys.

You could be smart, funny, good-looking...and for many women, that's not enough unless you're 6' or taller. I remember there was some kind of impromptu survey of women where many said they'd rather date a tall ugly guy instead of a short good-looking guy.
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BrettNYG10 : 7/11/2019 2:38 pm : link
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short good-looking guy.


No such thing.
Pretty funny clip  
Lines of Scrimmage : 7/11/2019 2:43 pm : link
"He's got tremendous moxie for his size"
RE: RE: it's a shame that this  
RC in MD : 7/11/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14496744 Anakim said:
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This x 100. He does need help and while this wasn't the forum to air his grievances, he is right about women looking down (no pun intended) on short guys.

You could be smart, funny, good-looking...and for many women, that's not enough unless you're 6' or taller. I remember there was some kind of impromptu survey of women where many said they'd rather date a tall ugly guy instead of a short good-looking guy.


While this may be true, where this goes from stating an observation to something toxic is to begin attributing to women all of the reasons why a guy can't get a girlfriend or even laid rather than looking at oneself beyond some physical shortfalls. Incels (that's what they're called, right?) fall squarely into this group since they believe that women are solely to blame for their inability to succeed with the opposite sex, when in most cases, these dude have major character flaws that will turn anyone off whether they were 6'2" or whatever.

There are plenty of ugly dudes, short dudes, poor dudes, who have met loving people of the opposite sex. They do it because they're often not raging assholes.
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