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Redskins' Attendance Down by 31% in the Past 10 Years

gidiefor : Mod : 7/11/2019 6:01 pm
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Washington saw the biggest attendance decline among NFL franchises, ranking fifth [in sports franchises overall] with a 31.1 percent drop in average attendance, according to 24/7 Wall St.

The team led the NFL in average attendance in 2008, with 88,604 fans packing FedEx Field that season. In 2018, Washington averaged 61,028 fans, a decline of 31.1 percent.

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Poor product...  
bw in dc : 7/11/2019 6:13 pm : link
and that stadium is a real pain in the ass to get to.

I think this DC sport fan is losing interest and gravitating more to the Caps and the Nats. Two significantly better run organizations...
I don't find it hard to get to  
Walt in MD : 7/11/2019 6:35 pm : link
But it is a shithole and their fanbase rivals Philly in terms of class.
RE: Poor product...  
figgy2989 : 7/11/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14496887 bw in dc said:
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I think this DC sport fan is losing interest and gravitating more to the Caps and the Nats. ...


Or in your case, a Giants fans message board
Not only the poor product  
Gman11 : 7/11/2019 6:49 pm : link
but the cost to attend a game. With parking, tickets, concessions you could blow an entire paycheck just to watch a shitty team get beat again.
I'd much, much rather watch a game on TV  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/11/2019 6:54 pm : link
than trek to a game.

(On the same day I booked a flight to Chicago for Giants Bears @ Solider Field in November.)
Outrageous prices for seats,  
MOOPS : 7/11/2019 6:56 pm : link
wasting hours getting to and leaving the stadium, unpredictable weather conditions vs. large screen HD TVs in the comfort of your own home.
What's not to understand?
Going to a giant game is such a production  
Joey from GlenCove : 7/11/2019 7:19 pm : link
I live in ct

Getting out of that parking lot is torture. The bridge sucks.

And it’s not a very enjoyable stadium.

In turn I most recently went solider field. It’s fucking awesome.
The inbound GW bridge is a nightmare on a Sunday night  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/11/2019 7:30 pm : link
.
I remember when their  
bubba0825 : 7/11/2019 7:31 pm : link
Season ticket wait list rivaled ours
RE: Poor product...  
NYDCBlue : 7/12/2019 4:50 am : link
In comment 14496887 bw in dc said:
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and that stadium is a real pain in the ass to get to.

I think this DC sport fan is losing interest and gravitating more to the Caps and the Nats. Two significantly better run organizations...


Live in MD. Used to love going to FedEx for the Gmen game. But the traffic is just not worth it. It takes like three hours to get home. Seems like everyone knows how bad it is, and the stadium starts to clear out by the third quarter. No one wants to be stuck in the crushing traffic jam home.
Used to go every year to the Giants game  
davek3698 : 7/12/2019 5:44 am : link
with my Redskin fan friends for years. We'd get free tickets that were actually decent seats. Haven't done it in several years now, though the free tickets remain available. I also have two co-workers who were long term season tickets holders, passed down through generations in their family. They gave them up. Fans are tied of Snyder, tired of a losing team but most of all tired of the hassle of getting to that stadium and the cluster f that awaited them upon arrival/exit.
I feel like the availability of seats via the internet  
mattnyg05 : 7/12/2019 6:04 am : link
has kind of put a damper on the excitement of going to a game.

Before the internet, it was a process to get a Giant ticket if you didn’t have season tickets. It felt like a concert that no one had access to, and you got lucky just to end up with a seat.

Now for any sport or any game you can find a reasonable seat at a reasonable price for the most part. While you might say that makes it easier to get to a game, it also takes the excitement away to some degree it’s not a “hot ticket” anymore. The season ticket wait list in the 80s is an example. That is no mas, obviously.
how about this...  
Karl Hungus : 7/12/2019 6:53 am : link
I want to walk away from my season tickets, but my wife won't let me. We go to every game, and according to her is the only fun we ever have. I told her we could go in a pretty decent vacation every year for $5,000 instead. But she won't hear it. I do enjoy going to games, but two or three would suffice.
The Giants need to lower season ticket prices. If we get to another December where I literally cannot give a ticket away, peace out.
RE: RE: Poor product...  
bw in dc : 7/12/2019 6:56 am : link
In comment 14497094 NYDCBlue said:
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In comment 14496887 bw in dc said:


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and that stadium is a real pain in the ass to get to.

I think this DC sport fan is losing interest and gravitating more to the Caps and the Nats. Two significantly better run organizations...



Live in MD. Used to love going to FedEx for the Gmen game. But the traffic is just not worth it. It takes like three hours to get home. Seems like everyone knows how bad it is, and the stadium starts to clear out by the third quarter. No one wants to be stuck in the crushing traffic jam home.


Exactly. I used to take my son to the Giants game when he was young. But it got to the point - and I am ten minutes away from Dulles airport - where the trip to and fro was just not worth the travel time and stress. Traffic is bad enough around here during the work week.

Believe it or not, it was easier for me to get to Baltimore for a Ravens game than going to FedEx.
I lost my desire to attend games  
Gman11 : 7/12/2019 7:48 am : link
a few years ago. I had always planned to go to at least one game a year, mostly an away game.

Well, living in NC, the Giants were playing the Panthers and that seemed like a natural. Halfway decent tickets via Stubhub were about $250 after fees. So, if the wife an I made a day of it I'm going to spend about $650 or more on tickets, meals, gas, parking. The only thing is I had a hockey game to play that evening that I would miss.

I decided to stay home and watch the game on TV and attend my hockey game. The Giants lost 38-0. I imagined what it would feel like to spend all that money and time just to watch the Giants get their brains beat in. I signed up for Sunday Ticket.
Quick traffic note  
Rory B. Bellows : 7/12/2019 8:52 am : link
I used to have season tix to NYG and I figured something out to avoid a lot of the volume after games.

If you go West on Rt3, take the 1st exit past the Practice Facility (I think for Rt17?) you can basically U-turn back on to Rt3 East, then go past the Turnpike entrance there, drive like 5 miles to the Eastern Spur of the Turnpike and get on there. It takes much less time & frustration.

Good luck out there!
RE: Quick traffic note  
NoPeanutz : 7/12/2019 10:19 am : link
In comment 14497154 Rory B. Bellows said:
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I used to have season tix to NYG and I figured something out to avoid a lot of the volume after games.

If you go West on Rt3, take the 1st exit past the Practice Facility (I think for Rt17?) you can basically U-turn back on to Rt3 East, then go past the Turnpike entrance there, drive like 5 miles to the Eastern Spur of the Turnpike and get on there. It takes much less time & frustration.

Good luck out there!

Moonachie Road from Hackensack. Dr. Milano, an old time season-ticket holder may he rest in peace, taught me that.
Attendance is facing pressure  
Metnut : 7/12/2019 10:21 am : link
in all live sports. College football has an even bigger problem.

This can easily (and IMO will) happen to the Giants if they put together a few more 5 win seasons. People already hate MetLife stadium and going there. Add in a few more bad years and it'll get harder to fill that stadium.

Season tickets are a worse value than ever before.
THat is what happens  
djstat : 7/12/2019 10:41 am : link
With corporate greed. The cost to go to games is to high.
RE: RE: Quick traffic note  
Danny Kanell : 7/12/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14497226 NoPeanutz said:
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In comment 14497154 Rory B. Bellows said:


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I used to have season tix to NYG and I figured something out to avoid a lot of the volume after games.

If you go West on Rt3, take the 1st exit past the Practice Facility (I think for Rt17?) you can basically U-turn back on to Rt3 East, then go past the Turnpike entrance there, drive like 5 miles to the Eastern Spur of the Turnpike and get on there. It takes much less time & frustration.

Good luck out there!


Moonachie Road from Hackensack. Dr. Milano, an old time season-ticket holder may he rest in peace, taught me that.


Moonachie Rd was a Godsend for years but the secret is out. 46 to the GWB is just as bad if not worse lately.
A few more bad seasons and the giants will be in the same boat  
Scyber : 7/12/2019 10:49 am : link
I literally couldn't give away tickets at the end of last year.
RE: I remember when their  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/12/2019 11:27 am : link
In comment 14496934 bubba0825 said:
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Season ticket wait list rivaled ours


And now neither franchise has a long waiting list.
RE: A few more bad seasons and the giants will be in the same boat  
RobCarpenter : 7/12/2019 11:29 am : link
In comment 14497267 Scyber said:
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I literally couldn't give away tickets at the end of last year.


The situation with the Redskins is different. Snyder has done massive damage to that franchise. This is a team that lied about having a waiting list for season tickets.
The Giants..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/12/2019 11:30 am : link
still have 70,000 people on the waiting list.

3rd most in the league
Those days are long gone:  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/12/2019 11:48 am : link
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The difference in purchasing Giants or Jets tickets now is night and day from what it was only a decade ago. Back then, season ticket waiting lists for both teams had thousands of names; single-game tickets were not readily available; and many consumers either were unaware of the secondary ticket market option or felt uncertain of the legitimacy of such sites.

The revolution began to take hold in mid-2008, when the Giants and Jets announced massive ticket-price increases in many sections – including an increased price for the choicest lower-level seats near the 50-yard line from about $100 to $700.


I had season tickets but sold them a couple of years ago. Not a good investment, to say the least. Buyer beware. The good news is if you have the money, you can purchase a PSL from someone who's looking to sell theirs without having to wait decades like it used to be in the old stadium. For me personally, the fun in going to a game stopped awhile ago and the team being bad just pushed me even more to sell. Since then, I have zero regrets and love just watching from home, so if we lose in embarrassing fashion, I at least don't waste an entire day at the stadium spending money on food, tolls, gas, etc. I'd imagine it's how Redskins fans currently feel right now.

Truth be told though, even if the team was good, I think I'm done going to games every week like I used to. It's just too much effort and then there's work the next day. I'd rather sleep in on Sunday mornings, tbh.

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RE: The Giants..  
Danny Kanell : 7/12/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14497319 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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still have 70,000 people on the waiting list.

3rd most in the league


Are you sure about this? Last I heard there was no longer a waiting list because of the PSLs. There's a resale market for PSLs but that's about it. I also read there isn't much of a market for the PSLs so they're basically going for nothing other than the seller no longer buying season tickets every year. Anyone that bought a PSL and wants to get rid of it is taking just about a total loss on the original buy in.
Danny..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/12/2019 12:22 pm : link
you might be right. I pulled from Wikipedia which is always a dangerous proposition!!
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But what's not to love about Danny Boy's team.  
MOOPS : 7/12/2019 1:19 pm : link
Team Sues 72-Year-Old Longtime Season Ticket Holder

Real estate agent Pat Hill held season tickets for Washington football since the 1960s, but was hit hard in the housing market crash in 2008 – making it a struggle to afford her $5,300-a-year seats and leaving her to get by on a $400-per-month social security income. When she phoned the team to ask if they could put off her 10-year contract for one or two seasons, they told her no – and then sued her for payment through 2017, plus interest, attorney’s fees, and court costs. Hill could not afford a lawyers, and the 72-year-old grandmother was forced to pay a default judgment of $66,364. Hill is one of 125 season ticket holders who asked to be released from multiyear contracts and were sued by the franchise between 2004 and 2009.
RE: RE: The Giants..  
fireitup77 : 7/12/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14497349 Danny Kanell said:
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In comment 14497319 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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still have 70,000 people on the waiting list.

3rd most in the league



Are you sure about this? Last I heard there was no longer a waiting list because of the PSLs. There's a resale market for PSLs but that's about it. I also read there isn't much of a market for the PSLs so they're basically going for nothing other than the seller no longer buying season tickets every year. Anyone that bought a PSL and wants to get rid of it is taking just about a total loss on the original buy in.


You are correct. I just walked away from my PSL.
FMiC  
figgy2989 : 7/12/2019 1:42 pm : link
Danny is right, no more waiting list and you could probably call the Giants right now and they would offer you a $250K PSL area to sit in!

I wish I could find the article, but when they were moving to the new stadium and most of the old guard didn't want to pay the PSL fees they were offering for the same level seats that they had been sitting in for a 100 years, they moved up to the cheap $1K PSL, then when those were gone, the $4K and so on...

By the time they got to the waiting list, there were only the $15K and up PSLs and they blew through that list in less than 6 months!
I'm..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/12/2019 1:42 pm : link
glad we finally have closure on one of the more long-running charades on BBI:

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Poor product...
bw in dc : 7/11/2019 6:13 pm : link : reply
and that stadium is a real pain in the ass to get to.

I think this DC sport fan is losing interest and gravitating more to the Caps and the Nats. Two significantly better run organizations...
the only way I'd attend an NFL game at this point  
UConn4523 : 7/12/2019 1:50 pm : link
is if my ticket is free and I can be helicoptered to/from the stadium. Otherwise watching on TV beats it 10 out of 10 times. An 8-10 hour and $300+ investment into a game couldn't interest me any less.

So yeah, this doesn't surprise me.
RE: Quick traffic note  
Sonic Youth : 7/12/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14497154 Rory B. Bellows said:
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I used to have season tix to NYG and I figured something out to avoid a lot of the volume after games.

If you go West on Rt3, take the 1st exit past the Practice Facility (I think for Rt17?) you can basically U-turn back on to Rt3 East, then go past the Turnpike entrance there, drive like 5 miles to the Eastern Spur of the Turnpike and get on there. It takes much less time & frustration.

Good luck out there!
This is my Dad's move. Much better.
Yeah.  
David B. : 7/12/2019 4:41 pm : link
I sold my PSLs a few years  
Bubba : 7/12/2019 5:00 pm : link
back and was lucky to get face value. I still get mails from both the Giants and Jets (had them too) asking if I want back in so I assume if there is a wait list it can't be very big.
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