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dep026 : 7/12/2019 9:29 am
Figure we can combine the 2-3 days into one thread. Bautista serving for the second to make the match interesting.

Nadal-Federer next. I think Nadal in 4, he's just playing better than Roger this tournament.
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Someone is saying thereís a 5th set tiebreak?  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 12:09 pm : link
I thought no 5th set tiebreak at Wimbledon? Didnít Isner have epic matches here?
Nice.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:09 pm : link
Would love to see Roger win. Push that bar one notch higher. See if Nadal and or Djokovic can catch him.
RE: Someone is saying thereís a 5th set tiebreak?  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14498449 Metnut said:
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I thought no 5th set tiebreak at Wimbledon? Didnít Isner have epic matches here?


Think it starts at 12 the tie break.
Great match so far  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:17 pm : link
But i think one of these two will fatigue just enough to make a difference. Physical match.

I'm guessing Djoker pulls through.
Glad Fed held that game  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:29 pm : link
I'd hate to see two net cords be that critical
Welp that should do it  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 12:37 pm : link
Novak just too tough.

Might have been Federerís last chance for a major...
This might be the point where Fed hit the wall.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:37 pm : link
He looks tired.

He'll have to dig really deep now
Wow.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:41 pm : link
Fed just looks like he lost his legs. Badly missing a few points.
Federer will not  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
go quietly into that good night.
FED!!!  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
Unreal match. Another classic z
Fed breaks him back!!  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
This is shaping up to be a top 5 all-time match.
Boom!  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
No idea why I doubt him. Unreal break back.
Fed  
XBRONX : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
will win this.
There's the break.  
Mad Mike : 7/14/2019 1:18 pm : link
Fed serving for the championship.
The Joker  
Canton : 7/14/2019 1:23 pm : link
Isn't going to make it easy.
Gotta be kidding  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 1:24 pm : link
me
Nice job by Djoker.to get that break back  
Mad Mike : 7/14/2019 1:24 pm : link
*
Epic shit here  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/14/2019 1:25 pm : link
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2 match points saved.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 1:26 pm : link
How does Fed recover after that. How would anyone recover from that.
Iím fearful that he wonít.  
yatqb : 7/14/2019 1:36 pm : link
.
Federer had him dead to rights  
Jints in Carolina : 7/14/2019 1:43 pm : link
i juts can't see him winning.
Oh well..  
Canton : 7/14/2019 1:45 pm : link
.
Fun while it lasted  
Canton : 7/14/2019 1:46 pm : link
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What happens if they get to a 12-all tiebreak?  
BlackLight : 7/14/2019 1:47 pm : link
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The assholes  
MookGiants : 7/14/2019 2:09 pm : link
that changed this rule should be arrested. Fucking criminal for a match like that to end in that garbage. Sickening. They needed that rule for everything but the championship. Lock those assholes up and throw the key away
That's a shame.  
Mad Mike : 7/14/2019 2:09 pm : link
Would've loved to see Roger win it, tough way to lose on 3 tiebreaks. Great job by Djoker fighting off those championship points for Fed.
Damn. Fed up 40-15 championship point..  
Sean : 7/14/2019 2:10 pm : link
Huge credit to Nole to respond.
Just a moronic ending to the  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 2:11 pm : link
Greatest match ever.

A shame that a few people crying changed the course of history. In no shape or form should a 5th set end in a tie breaker.

Dumb, stupid, moronic. Use any adjective you want. Fans were cheated to a great ending.
I still understand why thereís  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 2:11 pm : link
a tiebreak. What garbage.
Djokovic is incredible  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/14/2019 2:11 pm : link
He is like a roach, heís always in it until itís over. So many epic wins over Rafa/Roger. Fed is unreal as well what a legend.

The Golden Era of tennis.

100% agree about the rule change  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/14/2019 2:12 pm : link
Fucking bs.
you watch  
MookGiants : 7/14/2019 2:18 pm : link
they'll change the rule for next year to no tiebreaker in a final. But all it took was even a little bit of common sense when they did change the rule. They totally ruined what should have been an all time classic.
RE: The assholes  
dpinzow : 7/14/2019 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14498546 MookGiants said:
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that changed this rule should be arrested. Fucking criminal for a match like that to end in that garbage. Sickening. They needed that rule for everything but the championship. Lock those assholes up and throw the key away


Agreed, in fact there should be no 5th set tiebreak in any match in the quarters or later
RE: I still understand why thereís  
dpinzow : 7/14/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14498551 Metnut said:
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a tiebreak. What garbage.


John Isner played that match with Mahut that went to 70-68 in the 5th...then last year we had Kevin Anderson beat Isner 26-24 in the 5th
RE: RE: I still understand why thereís  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14498583 dpinzow said:
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In comment 14498551 Metnut said:


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a tiebreak. What garbage.



John Isner played that match with Mahut that went to 70-68 in the 5th...then last year we had Kevin Anderson beat Isner 26-24 in the 5th


And those were still better outcomes than this garbage.
I also thought the Centre Court crowd didn't show Djoker respect  
dpinzow : 7/14/2019 3:44 pm : link
it was Federer this, Federer that. Had to be satisfying for Djokovic to send that crowd home without the thing they wanted, a Federer win
It would have been academic if  
Bill in UT : 7/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
Federer's backhand hadn't gone to shit in set 5. That and getting too cute with some of those drop shots that Joker was able to get to.
RE: I also thought the Centre Court crowd didn't show Djoker respect  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14498641 dpinzow said:
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it was Federer this, Federer that. Had to be satisfying for Djokovic to send that crowd home without the thing they wanted, a Federer win


Wimbledon and the US Open always drive me crazy with the over the top Federer love. The guy is a great champion, but my goodness, even American players don't get the majority of crowd support when they play him here.

As for the match, Djoker won a classic with his greatest strength... mental toughness. Fighting back against 2 championship points and 2 break points was unbelievable. It was just great tennis by two legends.
Terrific match...  
bw in dc : 7/14/2019 6:15 pm : link
Hard to believe Fed had two match points on his racket and couldnít convert.

Actually itís unreal he lost at all. Fed won every key stat except unforced errors, and he was only minus 10 in that. More aces, more winners, better first serve %, better %s on first and second serve winning %, plus 4 in break points, more points won, more games won, less doubles, etc.

Better player lost.

Cause tie breakers  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 6:37 pm : link
Fucking suck.
How did the better player lose?  
UConn4523 : 7/14/2019 6:51 pm : link
much of the stats favored Fed due to the 2nd set which was a throw away for him. When it counted Djokovic he made the big plays. Both were good enough to win today.
RE: How did the better player lose?  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14498736 UConn4523 said:
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much of the stats favored Fed due to the 2nd set which was a throw away for him. When it counted Djokovic he made the big plays. Both were good enough to win today.


I wouldnít say one was better than the other. But winning tie breakers sometimes isnít an indication of who played better. The 5th set tie breaker was just an atrocious idea.
And Federer didnít lose this either  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 7:00 pm : link
I know he had two match points but both players came back from 40-0 or 40-15 multiple times and even broke each other a few times.

Still pissed a tie breaker decided that. I wonder if soccer fans hate penalty kicks cause it just leaves an empty feeling.

Look at what hockey does. Penalty shots during regular season, scratch them for the playoffs.
You don't like tiebreakers at Wimbledon? Blame this guy...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2019 7:08 pm : link
RE: You don't like tiebreakers at Wimbledon? Blame this guy...  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14498748 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I understand why they didnít but there was no way this was going to be much longer of a match. Both had chances to break a lot during the 5th set. Like someone said, forget tie breakers in like the quarters or semiís at least.
And unless both Nadal and Joker  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 7:12 pm : link
Fall off a cliff, they will both pass Federer in majors soon. I think Joker will end up with the most because of his hard court dominance. Only thing that can stop Novak is another back injury.
RE: RE: You don't like tiebreakers at Wimbledon? Blame this guy...  
dpinzow : 7/14/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14498749 dep026 said:
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In comment 14498748 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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I understand why they didnít but there was no way this was going to be much longer of a match. Both had chances to break a lot during the 5th set. Like someone said, forget tie breakers in like the quarters or semiís at least.


Federer was getting tired, you're right on that
RE: RE: How did the better player lose?  
UConn4523 : 7/14/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14498741 dep026 said:
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In comment 14498736 UConn4523 said:


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much of the stats favored Fed due to the 2nd set which was a throw away for him. When it counted Djokovic he made the big plays. Both were good enough to win today.



I wouldnít say one was better than the other. But winning tie breakers sometimes isnít an indication of who played better. The 5th set tie breaker was just an atrocious idea.


If he didnít play as good they wouldnít have gone 5. It was right down the middle and for me it came down to Federerís serve vs Novakís backhand. The ďstatsĒ donít tell the whole story which is a frequent occurrence in sports.
I reserve ďthe better player/team lostĒ  
UConn4523 : 7/14/2019 7:24 pm : link
for games decided by either an insane amount of luck or a badly botched call. When two greats slug it out to 12 - 12 and a tiebreak, stats donít matter.
RE: I reserve ďthe better player/team lostĒ  
bw in dc : 7/14/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14498761 UConn4523 said:
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for games decided by either an insane amount of luck or a badly botched call. When two greats slug it out to 12 - 12 and a tiebreak, stats donít matter.


I challenge you to find another major menís final where the winner lost all the key metrics like Novak...and won.

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