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dep026 : 7/12/2019 9:29 am
Figure we can combine the 2-3 days into one thread. Bautista serving for the second to make the match interesting.

Nadal-Federer next. I think Nadal in 4, he's just playing better than Roger this tournament.
I took a flier on Nadal -145  
Jints in Carolina : 7/12/2019 9:42 am : link
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Novak in 4  
Andy in Halifax : 7/12/2019 10:46 am : link
Nadal in 4.

Djokovic in 5.

Hoping the Fed Nadal match is epic, but I just don't see Federer as sharp as Nadal right now.
Both men serving unreal  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 12:02 pm : link
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Fed  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 12:10 pm : link
just seems to so many unnecessary unforced errors. Ha a chance to break, but Nadal holds.
Fed really needs thhis first set  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 12:18 pm : link
his serve has been absolutely spectacular. But a tie break can go either way.
Can someone post a video link to Fed/Nadal  
FranknWeezer : 7/12/2019 12:21 pm : link
I must be having a day, b/c I'm on wimbledon.com and am only seeing highlights of Djok's match and can't find the main event! Thanks!
Try espn.com  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 12:32 pm : link
Fed played a perfect first set. Wins tie breaker. Keep it up!
Nadal takes charge of the 2nd set  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:00 pm : link
Federer serve is leaving him this set. Cant get a first serve in. Blows two break points. Got to get back to how he played in the first set. Way too many bad shots by Fed this set.
This match could get ugly soon  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:07 pm : link
everything Andy and I talked about in the other thread is coming to fruition. Poor returns by Fed, unforced errors galore, and just looks terrible now. Terrible set by Federer. Nadal has all the momentum.
RE: This match could get ugly soon  
Metnut : 7/12/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14497411 dep026 said:
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everything Andy and I talked about in the other thread is coming to fruition. Poor returns by Fed, unforced errors galore, and just looks terrible now. Terrible set by Federer. Nadal has all the momentum.


I think Fed dialed down a notch (or two!) once that 2nd set looked hopeless. He looks a bit refreshed in the 3rd.
Fed up 3-1 in the 2nd..  
speedywheels : 7/12/2019 1:27 pm : link
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Awesome hold by Federer  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:30 pm : link
some great rallies between the two. Fed has the break in the 3rd. Great tennis this set by both.
4-1! Keep it up, Roger  
speedywheels : 7/12/2019 1:34 pm : link
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Boom!  
Andy in Halifax : 7/12/2019 1:47 pm : link
Might as well go 5!
RE: Boom!  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:50 pm : link
In comment 14497470 Andy in Halifax said:
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Might as well go 5!


Let’s end this in 4!!
We know who Dokovic's rooting for in this set.  
Mad Mike : 7/12/2019 1:51 pm : link
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Here comes the nadal’’s fist pumps  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 1:52 pm : link
After every point he wins.
Fed breaks Nadal  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 2:03 pm : link
Gotta just hold your serve now.
Nadal  
MattyKid : 7/12/2019 2:13 pm : link
having a tough time seeing Fed's shots.
Come on Fed  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 2:24 pm : link
One more!
That challenges was... unfortunate  
Mad Mike : 7/12/2019 2:28 pm : link
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Ok Fed  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 2:33 pm : link
Forget about that. Concentrate on your serve and end this.
Jesus Nadal  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 2:41 pm : link
Never gives in.
Fed!!!!  
dep026 : 7/12/2019 2:43 pm : link
What great tennis by both.

One more Fed. Best Novak!
RE: Jesus Nadal  
Mad Mike : 7/12/2019 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14497583 dep026 said:
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Never gives in.

You're not kidding. A few unforced errors, but both of them, in that game, but the last few points were battles. Great performance by Fed, great fight put up by Nadal. Onto Djoker.
This is fantasic  
Andy in Halifax : 7/12/2019 2:44 pm : link
Two fucking champs slugging it out.

And there it is. Great, great, finish to that match
Love it, Fed!  
speedywheels : 7/12/2019 2:47 pm : link
So many people have been counting him out. And not many even gave him a chance today.

Go get one more Major, Roger...
well there goes that bet  
Jints in Carolina : 7/12/2019 2:50 pm : link
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Wow a great job by Fed  
Metnut : 7/12/2019 2:51 pm : link
today. Would love to see him win another major but he's facing an even tougher and younger opponent in the final. Can't wait to watch and see if he can pull it off.
ultra high-level tennis  
Alan in Toledo : 7/12/2019 2:59 pm : link
Fed-Nadal, that is
Such an entertaining match. The guys are so even in talent  
yatqb : 7/12/2019 4:17 pm : link
that it's always a great match unless they're playing on clay.

Pretty brutal start for Serena.  
Mad Mike : 7/13/2019 9:19 am : link
She needs to get in gear in a hurry.
Halep has been unreal  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 9:56 am : link
Last two matches.
Halep deserves the title  
dpinzow : 7/13/2019 10:06 am : link
incredible performance
Ridiculous performance  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 10:07 am : link
Pure domination.
RE: Ridiculous performance  
dpinzow : 7/13/2019 10:14 am : link
In comment 14497988 dep026 said:
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Pure domination.


Halep is a player known for meltdowns in big moments so it's stunning she beat Serena 6-2, 6-2 on grass. Who does that?
LOL  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 3:56 pm : link
Nicholas Mahut is getting fucking pummeled in one of the best doubles matches ever. Poor guy haha
Woody Harrelson’s reaction  
dep026 : 7/13/2019 3:57 pm : link
On the nut shot is a classic meme.
Got another great clash brewing here  
Dave in PA : 7/14/2019 9:49 am : link
Federer looks sharp. Great bet play. Joker all around fantastic, as always.
Fed needs this set  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 9:58 am : link
Playing too well too lose it.
Federer blows two chances  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 10:03 am : link
For mini breaks. Can’t miss those and now an unforced error.

Federer blows the tie break  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 10:10 am : link
7 unforced errors in the tie break leads to all of Novak’s points. Loses last 4 points of the tie break. Lot of them just careless.

Novak has control now and I doubt Fed will recover. He needed that set.

And of course Fed  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 10:14 am : link
Breaks Novak to start the 2nd. Makes me look silly.
Novak looks didferent  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 10:24 am : link
Since that fall... Federer in control of second set.
Quick second set helps Federer  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 10:41 am : link
That was big.
This is a helluva match  
Sean : 7/14/2019 11:16 am : link
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Federer is going to lose this match  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 11:23 am : link
Without losing his serve. Hate tie breakers.
Oh boy  
Mad Mike : 7/14/2019 11:47 am : link
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Cmon roger. Hold serve all the way  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 11:49 am : link
I want a 5th set.
Don't know who to be rooting for...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/14/2019 11:51 am : link
Like both.
Didn’t see that break  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 12:01 pm : link
coming
Here we go.  
Mad Mike : 7/14/2019 12:06 pm : link
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5th set  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 12:06 pm : link
Come on Fed!
Someone is saying there’s a 5th set tiebreak?  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 12:09 pm : link
I thought no 5th set tiebreak at Wimbledon? Didn’t Isner have epic matches here?
Nice.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:09 pm : link
Would love to see Roger win. Push that bar one notch higher. See if Nadal and or Djokovic can catch him.
RE: Someone is saying there’s a 5th set tiebreak?  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14498449 Metnut said:
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I thought no 5th set tiebreak at Wimbledon? Didn’t Isner have epic matches here?


Think it starts at 12 the tie break.
Great match so far  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:17 pm : link
But i think one of these two will fatigue just enough to make a difference. Physical match.

I'm guessing Djoker pulls through.
Glad Fed held that game  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:29 pm : link
I'd hate to see two net cords be that critical
Welp that should do it  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 12:37 pm : link
Novak just too tough.

Might have been Federer’s last chance for a major...
This might be the point where Fed hit the wall.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:37 pm : link
He looks tired.

He'll have to dig really deep now
Wow.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:41 pm : link
Fed just looks like he lost his legs. Badly missing a few points.
Federer will not  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
go quietly into that good night.
FED!!!  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
Unreal match. Another classic z
Fed breaks him back!!  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
This is shaping up to be a top 5 all-time match.
Boom!  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
No idea why I doubt him. Unreal break back.
Fed  
XBRONX : 7/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
will win this.
There's the break.  
Mad Mike : 7/14/2019 1:18 pm : link
Fed serving for the championship.
The Joker  
Canton : 7/14/2019 1:23 pm : link
Isn't going to make it easy.
Gotta be kidding  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 1:24 pm : link
me
Nice job by Djoker.to get that break back  
Mad Mike : 7/14/2019 1:24 pm : link
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Epic shit here  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/14/2019 1:25 pm : link
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2 match points saved.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/14/2019 1:26 pm : link
How does Fed recover after that. How would anyone recover from that.
I’m fearful that he won’t.  
yatqb : 7/14/2019 1:36 pm : link
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Federer had him dead to rights  
Jints in Carolina : 7/14/2019 1:43 pm : link
i juts can't see him winning.
Oh well..  
Canton : 7/14/2019 1:45 pm : link
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Fun while it lasted  
Canton : 7/14/2019 1:46 pm : link
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What happens if they get to a 12-all tiebreak?  
BlackLight : 7/14/2019 1:47 pm : link
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The assholes  
MookGiants : 7/14/2019 2:09 pm : link
that changed this rule should be arrested. Fucking criminal for a match like that to end in that garbage. Sickening. They needed that rule for everything but the championship. Lock those assholes up and throw the key away
That's a shame.  
Mad Mike : 7/14/2019 2:09 pm : link
Would've loved to see Roger win it, tough way to lose on 3 tiebreaks. Great job by Djoker fighting off those championship points for Fed.
Damn. Fed up 40-15 championship point..  
Sean : 7/14/2019 2:10 pm : link
Huge credit to Nole to respond.
Just a moronic ending to the  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 2:11 pm : link
Greatest match ever.

A shame that a few people crying changed the course of history. In no shape or form should a 5th set end in a tie breaker.

Dumb, stupid, moronic. Use any adjective you want. Fans were cheated to a great ending.
I still understand why there’s  
Metnut : 7/14/2019 2:11 pm : link
a tiebreak. What garbage.
Djokovic is incredible  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/14/2019 2:11 pm : link
He is like a roach, he’s always in it until it’s over. So many epic wins over Rafa/Roger. Fed is unreal as well what a legend.

The Golden Era of tennis.

100% agree about the rule change  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/14/2019 2:12 pm : link
Fucking bs.
you watch  
MookGiants : 7/14/2019 2:18 pm : link
they'll change the rule for next year to no tiebreaker in a final. But all it took was even a little bit of common sense when they did change the rule. They totally ruined what should have been an all time classic.
RE: The assholes  
dpinzow : 7/14/2019 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14498546 MookGiants said:
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that changed this rule should be arrested. Fucking criminal for a match like that to end in that garbage. Sickening. They needed that rule for everything but the championship. Lock those assholes up and throw the key away


Agreed, in fact there should be no 5th set tiebreak in any match in the quarters or later
RE: I still understand why there’s  
dpinzow : 7/14/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14498551 Metnut said:
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a tiebreak. What garbage.


John Isner played that match with Mahut that went to 70-68 in the 5th...then last year we had Kevin Anderson beat Isner 26-24 in the 5th
RE: RE: I still understand why there’s  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14498583 dpinzow said:
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a tiebreak. What garbage.



John Isner played that match with Mahut that went to 70-68 in the 5th...then last year we had Kevin Anderson beat Isner 26-24 in the 5th


And those were still better outcomes than this garbage.
I also thought the Centre Court crowd didn't show Djoker respect  
dpinzow : 7/14/2019 3:44 pm : link
it was Federer this, Federer that. Had to be satisfying for Djokovic to send that crowd home without the thing they wanted, a Federer win
It would have been academic if  
Bill in UT : 7/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
Federer's backhand hadn't gone to shit in set 5. That and getting too cute with some of those drop shots that Joker was able to get to.
RE: I also thought the Centre Court crowd didn't show Djoker respect  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14498641 dpinzow said:
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it was Federer this, Federer that. Had to be satisfying for Djokovic to send that crowd home without the thing they wanted, a Federer win


Wimbledon and the US Open always drive me crazy with the over the top Federer love. The guy is a great champion, but my goodness, even American players don't get the majority of crowd support when they play him here.

As for the match, Djoker won a classic with his greatest strength... mental toughness. Fighting back against 2 championship points and 2 break points was unbelievable. It was just great tennis by two legends.
Terrific match...  
bw in dc : 7/14/2019 6:15 pm : link
Hard to believe Fed had two match points on his racket and couldn’t convert.

Actually it’s unreal he lost at all. Fed won every key stat except unforced errors, and he was only minus 10 in that. More aces, more winners, better first serve %, better %s on first and second serve winning %, plus 4 in break points, more points won, more games won, less doubles, etc.

Better player lost.

Cause tie breakers  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 6:37 pm : link
Fucking suck.
How did the better player lose?  
UConn4523 : 7/14/2019 6:51 pm : link
much of the stats favored Fed due to the 2nd set which was a throw away for him. When it counted Djokovic he made the big plays. Both were good enough to win today.
RE: How did the better player lose?  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14498736 UConn4523 said:
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much of the stats favored Fed due to the 2nd set which was a throw away for him. When it counted Djokovic he made the big plays. Both were good enough to win today.


I wouldn’t say one was better than the other. But winning tie breakers sometimes isn’t an indication of who played better. The 5th set tie breaker was just an atrocious idea.
And Federer didn’t lose this either  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 7:00 pm : link
I know he had two match points but both players came back from 40-0 or 40-15 multiple times and even broke each other a few times.

Still pissed a tie breaker decided that. I wonder if soccer fans hate penalty kicks cause it just leaves an empty feeling.

Look at what hockey does. Penalty shots during regular season, scratch them for the playoffs.
You don't like tiebreakers at Wimbledon? Blame this guy...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2019 7:08 pm : link
RE: You don't like tiebreakers at Wimbledon? Blame this guy...  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14498748 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I understand why they didn’t but there was no way this was going to be much longer of a match. Both had chances to break a lot during the 5th set. Like someone said, forget tie breakers in like the quarters or semi’s at least.
And unless both Nadal and Joker  
dep026 : 7/14/2019 7:12 pm : link
Fall off a cliff, they will both pass Federer in majors soon. I think Joker will end up with the most because of his hard court dominance. Only thing that can stop Novak is another back injury.
RE: RE: You don't like tiebreakers at Wimbledon? Blame this guy...  
dpinzow : 7/14/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14498749 dep026 said:
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I understand why they didn’t but there was no way this was going to be much longer of a match. Both had chances to break a lot during the 5th set. Like someone said, forget tie breakers in like the quarters or semi’s at least.


Federer was getting tired, you're right on that
RE: RE: How did the better player lose?  
UConn4523 : 7/14/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14498741 dep026 said:
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In comment 14498736 UConn4523 said:


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much of the stats favored Fed due to the 2nd set which was a throw away for him. When it counted Djokovic he made the big plays. Both were good enough to win today.



I wouldn’t say one was better than the other. But winning tie breakers sometimes isn’t an indication of who played better. The 5th set tie breaker was just an atrocious idea.


If he didn’t play as good they wouldn’t have gone 5. It was right down the middle and for me it came down to Federer’s serve vs Novak’s backhand. The “stats” don’t tell the whole story which is a frequent occurrence in sports.
I reserve “the better player/team lost”  
UConn4523 : 7/14/2019 7:24 pm : link
for games decided by either an insane amount of luck or a badly botched call. When two greats slug it out to 12 - 12 and a tiebreak, stats don’t matter.
RE: I reserve “the better player/team lost”  
bw in dc : 7/14/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14498761 UConn4523 said:
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for games decided by either an insane amount of luck or a badly botched call. When two greats slug it out to 12 - 12 and a tiebreak, stats don’t matter.


I challenge you to find another major men’s final where the winner lost all the key metrics like Novak...and won.

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