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NFL proposes 18-game regular season. 16 max per player

Metnut : 7/12/2019 1:50 pm
This would be a clusterfuck of the first order IMO.


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So much..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/12/2019 1:52 pm : link
for Ironman streaks.

Did McAdoo propose this?
That is a new wrinkle that would make absolutely no sense  
figgy2989 : 7/12/2019 1:54 pm : link
Why don't they first start by expanding the rosters, then worry about increasing the length of the season. Then finally figure out a way to enforce that idiotic 16 games max per player idea.

Seriously, can you imagine the season is increased to 18 games, you have a franchise QB and come week 17, you are fighting for a playoff spot and said QB can't play the final two games because he started the previous 16?
It sounds fine  
fivehead : 7/12/2019 1:54 pm : link
as long as they keep trending towards removing tackling from the game. Once it's two-hand-touch, they can have 500 games like baseball.
...  
26.2 : 7/12/2019 1:54 pm : link
So the individual players get bye weeks now? It also screws the fans. Say you get one NYG game a year and thats the game that a healthy saquon has to sit out. Or someone like mahomes if you're a chiefs fan.
This is one of those  
pjcas18 : 7/12/2019 1:57 pm : link
bat shit crazy ideas thrown out there intentionally so that the slightly less bat shit crazy idea seems like a win.

This is football, you have to play two games a year with a backup QB? Or without your top WR? Or OL?

Sounds like an onion article.
So dumb  
ron mexico : 7/12/2019 1:59 pm : link
this has to be the initial proposal you expect to get rejected
I don't know why I am even thinking about this idea  
figgy2989 : 7/12/2019 1:59 pm : link
But someone in the comments section of the article brought up a good point.

Say a team is blowing or getting blown out, the decide to sit start players in the second half. Would those two quarters count towards the overall concept? Meaning they would have .5 games credit of "sitting out"?

also forces teams to carry 3 QBs  
giants#1 : 7/12/2019 2:02 pm : link
since you'll need a backup for your backup (err, 2 game starter) which can't be your franchise QB...
RE: I don't know why I am even thinking about this idea  
Mad Mike : 7/12/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14497504 figgy2989 said:
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But someone in the comments section of the article brought up a good point.

Say a team is blowing or getting blown out, the decide to sit start players in the second half. Would those two quarters count towards the overall concept? Meaning they would have .5 games credit of "sitting out"?

C'mon, that's silly (even within the context of a silly proposal). Of course not.
Why don't they just add one or two more bye weeks per team?  
widmerseyebrow : 7/12/2019 2:04 pm : link
Stretch the schedule, get more weekends of football on TV, and give the players more rest.
RE: Why don't they just add one or two more bye weeks per team?  
widmerseyebrow : 7/12/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14497512 widmerseyebrow said:
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Stretch the schedule, get more weekends of football on TV, and give the players more rest.


Without adding anymore games that is.
RE: RE: I don't know why I am even thinking about this idea  
figgy2989 : 7/12/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14497508 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14497504 figgy2989 said:


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But someone in the comments section of the article brought up a good point.

Say a team is blowing or getting blown out, the decide to sit start players in the second half. Would those two quarters count towards the overall concept? Meaning they would have .5 games credit of "sitting out"?



C'mon, that's silly (even within the context of a silly proposal). Of course not.


Right, that is my point, you would open a whole can of worms with crazy ideas of trying to make this work.
But if you thought Davis Webb was worth discussing now,  
Mad Mike : 7/12/2019 2:06 pm : link
just imagine a league where the backup had to start at least 2 games. That guy would be gold!
.  
Danny Kanell : 7/12/2019 2:12 pm : link
LOLNFL
Roger Goddell is a dumbfuq Antichrist  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/12/2019 2:14 pm : link
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RE: Why don't they just add one or two more bye weeks per team?  
giants#1 : 7/12/2019 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14497512 widmerseyebrow said:
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Stretch the schedule, get more weekends of football on TV, and give the players more rest.


I think they end up with 18 games regular season and 2 byes. It'll be interesting to see how much the rosters expand by and if the revenue split also increases in exchange.
that's just diluting the product  
Rocky369 : 7/12/2019 2:26 pm : link
the immediate thought is those fighting for the playoffs, as previously mentioned. But how many players don't get at least one play on the field in a game? So now you hire an entire AAF/XFL team because you have to account for new players and their backups.
Who is  
Pete in MD : 7/12/2019 2:26 pm : link
ready for 2nd string kickers and punters?!

(Yes, I realize they would probably be an exception to the rule.)
Who the hell comes up with shit like this?  
Klaatu : 7/12/2019 2:28 pm : link
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NO  
Thegratefulhead : 7/12/2019 2:29 pm : link
NONONONONONONONO and NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You are in a playoff race, and your QB has not sat yet because you couldn't afford to sit him, now you have sit him for the last 2 games. SCREW THAT SHIT!!!
Why can't they get rid of two preseason games?  
RobCarpenter : 7/12/2019 2:31 pm : link
And they need to dump the Thursday games.
Greed  
xman : 7/12/2019 2:33 pm : link
is the calling card
Can you base your choices on the Vegas line?  
Bill L : 7/12/2019 2:35 pm : link
please?
RE: Who the hell comes up with shit like this?  
figgy2989 : 7/12/2019 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14497562 Klaatu said:
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Goodell never met a bad idea he couldn't propose  
ghost718 : 7/12/2019 2:37 pm : link
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17 games, 8 home, 8 away, 1 neutral site, 2 bye weeks  
Ben in Tampa : 7/12/2019 2:55 pm : link
Is the formula for expanding the season if they are absolutely compelled to do so
NFL football continues to evolve into 43-man Squamish.  
Red Dog : 7/12/2019 2:55 pm : link
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So basically, no one starts the first 2 games of the season.  
Geomon : 7/12/2019 2:55 pm : link
Or at least the 2 of the first 4 games because if not, you run the risk of missing a starter in a race to the playoffs.

So you've essentially made the first 2 weeks of the season fucking meaningless from a fan perspective. That's brilliant! Enjoy the ratings those first two weeks.
Going to have to increase roster size also then  
montanagiant : 7/12/2019 3:22 pm : link
At least by 7, better if by 10
Ok hear me out  
Nine-Tails : 7/12/2019 3:27 pm : link
If Eli plays well, the E-hive, will get to see him play all games. And then Jones plays the last 2 games and we move onto the next phase of Giants football. LOL
RE: So basically, no one starts the first 2 games of the season.  
speedywheels : 7/12/2019 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14497605 Geomon said:
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Or at least the 2 of the first 4 games because if not, you run the risk of missing a starter in a race to the playoffs.

So you've essentially made the first 2 weeks of the season fucking meaningless from a fan perspective. That's brilliant! Enjoy the ratings those first two weeks.


But unless they expand the rosters by 50+%, they will have to start some key guys in those games just to field a team...
This is the most cockeyed idiotic proposal ever heard of in the NFL  
Torrag : 7/12/2019 3:36 pm : link
If they want the 18 game season cut two of the pre season games and be done with it. The quality of football we watch the first month is already complete shit so what's another two weeks of garbage football in the scheme of things. Give the players a few more percentage points of gross revenue in the next CBA and everyone is happy.

Owners get the increased revenue from two in season televised games per team, the players get a bigger piece of the pie overall and even the loyal season ticket buyers benefit by cutting full price pre season ticket prices from 4 games to 2.

It's a win-Win-Win. The League, players and fans all benefit.

Of course this will likely never happen as it's far too simple and fair a solution for the tripod that supports the NFL mega bucks machine.

The other options to make this work are RETARDED(I know that term is out of vogue or considered in bad taste but in this case it serves a point). Two weeks where your franchise QB doesn't play? The team continuity required to function optimally for example the offensive line protecting your QB. Imagine the outrage if Aaaron Rodgers was lost for the season when his backup replacement LG whiffs on a block and his knee gets churned like butter. RIDICULOUS. Then factor in all the machinations and negotiations that would ensue over roster size and practice time? So many difficult moving parts in that deal it makes a super computer dizzy.
18 team games but 16 max for individual players  
ChaChing : 7/12/2019 3:56 pm : link
is like FF, where your team doesn't have a bye but players do, so subs / depth are that much more important

Not good. If anything 2-3 byes and 18 games (3 byes seems a lot, but if player safety / recovery is the issue, err on their side IMO)

If not 16 games and 2 fewer preseasons
The quality of the sport next  
Sneakers O'toole : 7/12/2019 4:16 pm : link
isn't a priority for these clowns.
dumb  
Heisenberg : 7/12/2019 4:22 pm : link
dumb dumb dumb
RE: RE: Who the hell comes up with shit like this?  
Klaatu : 7/12/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14497574 figgy2989 said:
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In comment 14497562 Klaatu said:



Ha! I didn't think he was that creative.
It's all about the money  
HomerJones45 : 7/12/2019 4:34 pm : link
the union isn't going to agree to an 18 game schedule without more dough so this is the plan the geniuses came up with to keep the players to 16 games but have two more games count where someone might show up because they are "regular season" games and they squeeze more money out of national tv packages or more games to broadcast on NFL Network that are not now part of national tv packages.

Nothing in this plan that an owner won't love. Now you know why Goodell has a job: he can go out and present the most self-serving plan for owners and do it with a straight face.
just expand the rosters  
Paulie Walnuts : 7/12/2019 4:44 pm : link
and go to 18 games. 2 preseason games
RE: Why don't they just add one or two more bye weeks per team?  
JohnF : 7/12/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14497512 widmerseyebrow said:
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Stretch the schedule, get more weekends of football on TV, and give the players more rest.


This +1000!!

The owners can get more money by going to an 18 WEEK regular season schedule, but still going 16 GAMES per team. For a league that prattles about player safety, you would think that with more byes the players would get more recovery time, and you'd see better football.

Nah, can't let that happen, can we...
Yeah, I don’t hate it...  
trueblueinpw : 7/12/2019 5:05 pm : link
Who wouldn’t have loved to see two games with another QB last season? And it makes roster management more interesting. Two more games a year is fine with me. Idk, not the worst idea ever.
RE: just expand the rosters  
HomerJones45 : 7/12/2019 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14497698 Paulie Walnuts said:
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and go to 18 games. 2 preseason games
Tsk tsk tsk, that would cost more money in salaries to pay additional players- musn't have that. The plan must provide owners with additional revenue without any additional costs.
Expand Rosters  
djstat : 7/12/2019 5:46 pm : link
Add a bye week and move on.
expand rosters and add a bye week?  
Torrag : 7/12/2019 5:53 pm : link
Some of you fellas aren't getting it. That idea is worse in owners eyes. They get paid by the number of games broadcast, not the number of 'weeks' they play. So expanding rosters and adding a bye week actually costs them more by keeping the number of 'billable' games constant but adds more mouths to feed by increasing the player pool.

They'll have no interest in that formula. This entire scheme is about increasing the gross revenue substantially. That means 18 games per team. Whether we as fans get a watered down product with backups playing in place of stars means nothing to these fucks.
This aint happening  
uther99 : 7/12/2019 6:36 pm : link
it will eventually go to 18 games with the players getting a bigger percentage of the take
RE: also forces teams to carry 3 QBs  
mrvax : 7/12/2019 7:02 pm : link
In comment 14497507 giants#1 said:
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since you'll need a backup for your backup (err, 2 game starter) which can't be your franchise QB...


Oh, these idiots could come up with an injured player clause where you may play the guy who sat case of injury. This is stupid on so many levels. Goes a long way in disproving forward evolution in humans.
RE: This is the most cockeyed idiotic proposal ever heard of in the NFL  
mrvax : 7/12/2019 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14497647 Torrag said:
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If they want the 18 game season cut two of the pre season games and be done with it. The quality of football we watch the first month is already complete shit so what's another two weeks of garbage football in the scheme of things. Give the players a few more percentage points of gross revenue in the next CBA and everyone is happy.


In order to pull that off successfully, the players must be made to practice A LOT MORE to actually be ready to play opening day.
'to actually be ready to play opening day...  
Torrag : 7/12/2019 7:16 pm : link
They aren't ready to play Week 1 as it is. We wait until about week 4 for the quality of play to approach the professional level we were used to before this watered down CBA.

Neither the owners or players care if the product is garbage for the first four weeks so why will they care if it's shite for 6 weeks now? Answer: they won't. No matter what the finalized CBA extension or renegotiation looks like you can bet it won't increase practice time in any significant way.
This i strictly a negotiating tactic right?  
TJ : 7/12/2019 7:59 pm : link
The collective bargaining agreement runs out at the end of next season. This ridiculous idea being made public just means negotiations have begun.
RE: This i strictly a negotiating tactic right?  
Mad Mike : 7/12/2019 8:02 pm : link
In comment 14497802 TJ said:
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The collective bargaining agreement runs out at the end of next season. This ridiculous idea being made public just means negotiations have begun.

Yes. The seriousness of responses in this thread is pretty amusing.
I’d like to see 1 game added that’s a rivalry game  
Rover : 7/12/2019 9:32 pm : link
Like in college football.
Rotates venues.

Giants-Jets
Iggles-Stillers
Ravens-Skins
Bills-Seahawks
Browns-Lions
Colts-Bears
Vikings-Chiefs
Panthers-Bengals
Jags-Falcons
Bucs-Dolphins
Saints-Titans
Texans-Cowboys
Raiders-Niners
Chargers-Rams
Broncos-Cardinals
Pats-Packers

Good idea?
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