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Oshane Ximines working with Pass Rush Specialist

EddieNYG : 7/15/2019 11:46 am
This week, Giants 3rd Round Draft Pick Oshane Ximines will be in Atlanta working with pass rush specialist Chuck Smith.
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ATL next week to see my guy @chucksmithnfl it’s only right #passrush #letswork

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Hopefully..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/15/2019 11:47 am : link
Chuck Smith is just sticking to teaching technique instead of intangibles like how to quit on his team:)
Man  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/15/2019 12:12 pm : link
keeping my fingers crossed on Ximines... if he comes through...
We've got a number of possibilities as pass rushers, but no one we  
Ira : 7/15/2019 12:23 pm : link
can depend on. One thing that will help is that we have some defensive backs who can cover. That should give the pass rushers more time to get home and it should allow Bettcher to blitz more often as I'm sure he wants to.
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okayrene : 7/15/2019 1:06 pm : link
Never heard of Chuck Smith.
Chuck Smith has been running the program for years  
ATL_Giants : 7/15/2019 1:13 pm : link
Osi Umenyora,
Aaron Donald,
Von Miller...

Have all worked with him.
Lorenzo Carter  
Mark in ATL : 7/15/2019 1:34 pm : link
Has worked with Chuck Smith, also, on pass rushing technique.
Eric  
Jay on the Island : 7/15/2019 1:49 pm : link
I’ve noticed a far more positive outlook from you this offseason.

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Klaatu : 7/15/2019 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14499158 Jay on the Island said:
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I’ve noticed a far more positive outlook from you this offseason.


That's one result of him adding more fiber to his diet this year.
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DavidinBMNY : 7/15/2019 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14499083 Eric from BBI said:
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keeping my fingers crossed on Ximines... if he comes through...
Love the dedication. It's a good sign.
RE: Eric  
DavidinBMNY : 7/15/2019 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14499158 Jay on the Island said:
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I’ve noticed a far more positive outlook from you this offseason.
You have to like the investment in OL and DL, + the investment in QB. Plus these are players you can root for and your not embaressed for your children to watch their antics. The team was relatively competitive last year, and will improve on that this year. You never know how the year will go, but if there is 1 team just burning to win in this division, and where the team is aligned up and down the stack it's the Giants.
RE: We've got a number of possibilities as pass rushers, but no one we  
BillT : 7/15/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14499095 Ira said:
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can depend on. One thing that will help is that we have some defensive backs who can cover. That should give the pass rushers more time to get home and it should allow Bettcher to blitz more often as I'm sure he wants to.

Can we wait until they get on the field before we write them off. Carter, Golden and Ximines all have a chance and maybe a good chance to be solid pass rushers. I don’t know if they will but I’m willing to wait and see.
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cjac : 7/15/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14499293 BillT said:
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can depend on. One thing that will help is that we have some defensive backs who can cover. That should give the pass rushers more time to get home and it should allow Bettcher to blitz more often as I'm sure he wants to.


Can we wait until they get on the field before we write them off. Carter, Golden and Ximines all have a chance and maybe a good chance to be solid pass rushers. I don’t know if they will but I’m willing to wait and see.


Golden is a proven commodity, we just have to see if he's completely over his injury
Josh Alllen might be available at #6  
since1925 : 7/15/2019 5:08 pm : link
Not likely but he could drop into our laps.
I heard  
XBRONX : 7/15/2019 5:43 pm : link
that Chuck Smith is the Lecharles Bentley of the pass rush.By the way did John Jerry every get his tuition refunded?
Our desperation for an edge rusher  
widmerseyebrow : 7/15/2019 6:21 pm : link
has us setting unrealistic expectations for this kid.
While there are a large number of wait & sees w/ youth, health  
ChaChing : 7/15/2019 6:29 pm : link
maybe age, one thing we've seen under Bettcher in AZ several guys seemed to be better used to their strengths than prior situations. Golden for one, Olsen Pierre another, obviously Chandler Jones was always good but even he added a monster year in 2017

It's nothing but optimism today, but still decent reason to hope for Carter, Ximines, Golden, Lawrence...among many others across the D
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Jay on the Island : 7/15/2019 6:42 pm : link
In comment 14499197 DavidinBMNY said:
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I’ve noticed a far more positive outlook from you this offseason.


You have to like the investment in OL and DL, + the investment in QB. Plus these are players you can root for and your not embaressed for your children to watch their antics. The team was relatively competitive last year, and will improve on that this year. You never know how the year will go, but if there is 1 team just burning to win in this division, and where the team is aligned up and down the stack it's the Giants.

I wasn't knocking Eric at all for being positive I just noticed how positive he has been this offseason as opposed to the previous two years. It's nice to see his confidence restored in this team.

This is the most excited i have been going into a season since 2013. I was very down last year when we passed on Darnold but Barkley has more than won me over and I am very excited about Daniel Jones. I watched nearly everyone of his highlight videos and I saw a lot that I like. The practice reports has me even more excited about his upside especially the ones praising his arm strength which was my only real concern with him.
Unless techniques taught are actually counter-productive  
Bob in Newburgh : 7/16/2019 2:27 pm : link
hard to see how this can hurt.

I was wondering however, whether functional speed training may be of more use. His 40 time at combine was adequate if combined with strength and technique, but nothing to write home about.
I try to be optomistic...  
x meadowlander : 7/16/2019 2:32 pm : link
...but to me, this looks like the only true reach of the Giants draft.

Hopefully, Clint Sintim turns out to be Jesse Armstead this time. :D
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madgiantscow009 : 7/16/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14499176 Klaatu said:
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I’ve noticed a far more positive outlook from you this offseason.




That's one result of him adding more fiber to his diet this year.


what's his fiber regiment theses days?
RE: I try to be optomistic...  
Klaatu : 7/16/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14499991 x meadowlander said:
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...but to me, this looks like the only true reach of the Giants draft.

Hopefully, Clint Sintim turns out to be Jesse Armstead this time. :D


How is he a reach? He was drafted about where most pundits figured he'd get drafted.
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Klaatu : 7/16/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14500028 madgiantscow009 said:
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I’ve noticed a far more positive outlook from you this offseason.




That's one result of him adding more fiber to his diet this year.



what's his fiber regiment theses days?


Two words: Bamboo shoots.
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x meadowlander : 7/16/2019 4:29 pm : link
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...but to me, this looks like the only true reach of the Giants draft.

Hopefully, Clint Sintim turns out to be Jesse Armstead this time. :D



How is he a reach? He was drafted about where most pundits figured he'd get drafted.
Level of competition subpar and frankly, doesn't jump off the highlight reel. I didn't like him where the Giants took him. I'd have been ok with the 4th.

Good news? I have a absolutely putrid record of evaluating draft talent. Manning? PFFT. We could've had SEAN TAYLOR! :D
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Klaatu : 7/16/2019 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14500059 x meadowlander said:
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...but to me, this looks like the only true reach of the Giants draft.

Hopefully, Clint Sintim turns out to be Jesse Armstead this time. :D



How is he a reach? He was drafted about where most pundits figured he'd get drafted.

Level of competition subpar and frankly, doesn't jump off the highlight reel. I didn't like him where the Giants took him. I'd have been ok with the 4th.

Good news? I have a absolutely putrid record of evaluating draft talent. Manning? PFFT. We could've had SEAN TAYLOR! :D


Sean Taylor was the guy I wanted. And Matt Schaub.

Anyway, you have to figure that the pundits factor in the level of competition when they're handing out their grades. But you could look at it this way - Ximines was picked #95 overall. That's only seven spots before the 4th Round. Julian Love went at #108, 13 picks later. Switch 'em around and Love is still a steal and Ximines isn't a reach.
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John In CO : 7/16/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14500059 x meadowlander said:
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...but to me, this looks like the only true reach of the Giants draft.

Hopefully, Clint Sintim turns out to be Jesse Armstead this time. :D



How is he a reach? He was drafted about where most pundits figured he'd get drafted.

Level of competition subpar and frankly, doesn't jump off the highlight reel. I didn't like him where the Giants took him. I'd have been ok with the 4th.

Good news? I have a absolutely putrid record of evaluating draft talent. Manning? PFFT. We could've had SEAN TAYLOR! :D


Yeah, level of competition is a major red flag. Still cant believe the Giants wasted high picks on those bums Strahan (Texas Southern) and Umenyiora (Troy). :)

Seriously though....being a fan of one of those low level teams (UCF), ive always been a "if a guy can play he can play" type. I admit I only saw the VT game, but he sure as hell showed up that game! Cant wait for camp to start to see some of these kids in action.
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x meadowlander : 7/17/2019 10:20 am : link
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Sean Taylor was the guy I wanted. And Matt Schaub.

Anyway, you have to figure that the pundits factor in the level of competition when they're handing out their grades. But you could look at it this way - Ximines was picked #95 overall. That's only seven spots before the 4th Round. Julian Love went at #108, 13 picks later. Switch 'em around and Love is still a steal and Ximines isn't a reach.


LOL, EXACTLY. Same holds true for Lawrence and Jones - I was pissed at the 6 pick, but Lawrence is exactly who I wanted there.
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NephilimGiants : 7/21/2019 11:34 am : link
In comment 14500541 x meadowlander said:
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Sean Taylor was the guy I wanted. And Matt Schaub.

Anyway, you have to figure that the pundits factor in the level of competition when they're handing out their grades. But you could look at it this way - Ximines was picked #95 overall. That's only seven spots before the 4th Round. Julian Love went at #108, 13 picks later. Switch 'em around and Love is still a steal and Ximines isn't a reach.



LOL, EXACTLY. Same holds true for Lawrence and Jones - I was pissed at the 6 pick, but Lawrence is exactly who I wanted there.


We had a shot at a potential pro bowl pass rusher at 6 but at least QB situation is worked on. It may take years now to get a shot at a pass rusher early rounds
Hmmm  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2019 12:54 pm : link
Strahan was a second rounder, Osi was a second rounder, Tuck was a third rounder.
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