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NGT: Ezekiel Elliot planning a holdout?

Stu11 : 7/15/2019 1:51 pm
Did a search didn't see anything about it I'll delete if already posted. Would be a damn shame if he missed or was out of shape for the opener!
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He'll be in shape  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/15/2019 1:53 pm : link
just not playing shape.
Please  
GoDeep13 : 7/15/2019 1:54 pm : link
Let this happen. Cow pies have had a rather quiet offseason.
I personally like playing teams especially div rivals  
superspynyg : 7/15/2019 1:54 pm : link
when they are at full strength. That way when we win there are zero excuses. If we lose..so be it.
I would take it..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/15/2019 1:56 pm : link
if our division rivals had to forfeit.

A win is a win - and I don't care how you get it.

Did beating the Redskins last year count less because Mark Sanchez was the QB?
RE: I personally like playing teams especially div rivals  
Danny Kanell : 7/15/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14499164 superspynyg said:
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when they are at full strength. That way when we win there are zero excuses. If we lose..so be it.


LOL
RE: I would take it..  
Giantophile : 7/15/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14499167 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Did beating the Redskins last year count less because Mark Sanchez was the QB?


Eh....kinda?
RE: RE: I personally like playing teams especially div rivals  
Big Blue '56 : 7/15/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14499170 Danny Kanell said:
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In comment 14499164 superspynyg said:


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when they are at full strength. That way when we win there are zero excuses. If we lose..so be it.



LOL


LOL part 2
RE: I personally like playing teams especially div rivals  
Nine-Tails : 7/15/2019 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14499164 superspynyg said:
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when they are at full strength. That way when we win there are zero excuses. If we lose..so be it.


I take wins anyway shape or form. Part of the journey is overcoming your losses, no team is in full force the whole year. Do you think the Raptors be like I wish Klay and KD were healthy, hell no. Injuries happen and there is merit to be the last team standing,
Those closest to him say he won't come out of the salvation army  
BSIMatt : 7/15/2019 2:14 pm : link
kettle until he gets paid.


RE: Zeke  
Payasdaddy : 7/15/2019 3:13 pm : link
when I was in carlsbad in late jan/feb I stay at residence inn where a NFL training facility was there. Lotsa combine guys there cause they train across the street.
Had breakfast with Hudson Houck (sp?) of cowboys (at least he is out of retirement doin something with them)
We talked saquon and he said :'best back in the league"
also said zeke is great but hinted he is wearing down already and told me straight out would expect himto be done by late 20's because of running style and pounding
Not any surprise on this board but cowboys are already worried about his longevity
Also my buddy in carlsbad working for a new helmet company (light Helmet)marketing to NFL, college , high school etc.
He gets to go to NFL combine, Hang out with NFL guys, Know K abrahms from Gment (both from toronto i think)
No jealousy on my end :(
A lot of clouds around this guy. Hope SB  
TMS : 7/15/2019 3:34 pm : link
does not run into this BS.
More time for him to relax at home  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/15/2019 3:39 pm : link
On the forest moon Endor.
Beating the Mark Sanchez lead Redskins  
cjac : 7/15/2019 3:50 pm : link
is like making out with your marginally attractive cousin, its ok during, and then after you just really feel like shit about it.
He should Hold Out  
ZogZerg : 7/15/2019 4:12 pm : link
Dak with no hometown discount and now this. Cowboy players want to get paid!
RE: Beating the Mark Sanchez lead Redskins  
Jim in Tampa : 7/15/2019 4:18 pm : link
In comment 14499283 cjac said:
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is like making out with your marginally attractive cousin, its ok during, and then after you just really feel like shit about it.

How do you know?

:>)
RE: Beating the Mark Sanchez lead Redskins  
LauderdaleMatty : 7/15/2019 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14499283 cjac said:
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is like making out with your marginally attractive cousin, its ok during, and then after you just really feel like shit about it.


What about a blow job? Id suggest a win more closely related to that than Making out. With anyone. Petty or ugly. Ill go as far and say If she swallows its like a playoff win w en with half their team on IR.
RE: Beating the Mark Sanchez lead Redskins  
dorgan : 7/15/2019 5:13 pm : link
In comment 14499283 cjac said:
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is like making out with your marginally attractive cousin, its ok during, and then after you just really feel like shit about it.


I'm betting she feels worse about it than you did, cjac but thanks for sharing your prom night memories.
Cowboys have big contract decisions coming  
Ben in Tampa : 7/15/2019 5:29 pm : link
Need to pay Zeke, who probably deserves elite money but is a disciplinary time bomb

Need to pay Dak, who is going to get elite money and doesn't even sniff that level of play

Bet they trade him to some team dumb enough to pay.  
Default : 7/15/2019 5:56 pm : link
It's not smart to pay RBs.
Running backs rarely get big second contracts  
WillieYoung : 7/15/2019 6:42 pm : link
Peterson and Gurley are 2 exceptions. One worked one didn't. If gentleman is still here I expect SB will get a second contract and avoid this nonsense, but will it be gurney or Peterson?
RE: I would take it..  
River Mike : 7/15/2019 6:52 pm : link
In comment 14499167 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if our division rivals had to forfeit.

A win is a win - and I don't care how you get it.

Did beating the Redskins last year count less because Mark Sanchez was the QB?


Exactly!!!!!
RE: Beating the Mark Sanchez lead Redskins  
crick n NC : 7/15/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14499283 cjac said:
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is like making out with your marginally attractive cousin, its ok during, and then after you just really feel like shit about it.


What about a step sister? Should I feel like shit? If so, for how long?

Sincerely,
Worried n NC
😟
RE: I personally like playing teams especially div rivals  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/15/2019 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14499164 superspynyg said:
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when they are at full strength. That way when we win there are zero excuses. If we lose..so be it.


Never gets old.
Ha, I like playing teams second string  
gtt350 : 7/15/2019 9:16 pm : link
With all the injuries we have
Both sides are right here...  
bw in dc : 7/15/2019 10:43 pm : link
Elliott should want more money. Hes a great player.

But Dallas should not pay him one dollar above his current contract because running back, next to punter, is the most replaceable position in the game.

Eventually we will have the same crossroads with Barkley. And there will be a very good chance we should do the same thing Dallas should do - move on.
Saquon  
Payasdaddy : 7/16/2019 1:07 am : link
If saquon has no major injuries I can see a 2nd 4 yr contract that gets him to 29yrs old. He is so skilled even at 90% in late 20s still be great
But yes its a big amount to pay.
Zeke a beast but I think saquon generational
RE: Both sides are right here...  
Jimmy Googs : 7/16/2019 8:23 am : link
In comment 14499534 bw in dc said:
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Elliott should want more money. Hes a great player.

But Dallas should not pay him one dollar above his current contract because running back, next to punter, is the most replaceable position in the game.

Eventually we will have the same crossroads with Barkley. And there will be a very good chance we should do the same thing Dallas should do - move on.


Why would we pick a RB #2 overall, watch him play great and then let him walk a few years later assuming no injury?

RE: RE: Both sides are right here...  
Default : 7/16/2019 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14499611 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 14499534 bw in dc said:


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Elliott should want more money. Hes a great player.

But Dallas should not pay him one dollar above his current contract because running back, next to punter, is the most replaceable position in the game.

Eventually we will have the same crossroads with Barkley. And there will be a very good chance we should do the same thing Dallas should do - move on.



Why would we pick a RB #2 overall, watch him play great and then let him walk a few years later assuming no injury?


Because it was stupid to draft a RB that early in the first place, and there is a good chance there will be a new GM when this decision needs to be made.
I remember when  
David B. : 7/16/2019 3:51 pm : link
I would have loved to have had the Giants draft him. He's great on the field, but a disaster off.

RE: RE: Both sides are right here...  
bw in dc : 7/16/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14499611 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 14499534 bw in dc said:


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Elliott should want more money. Hes a great player.

But Dallas should not pay him one dollar above his current contract because running back, next to punter, is the most replaceable position in the game.

Eventually we will have the same crossroads with Barkley. And there will be a very good chance we should do the same thing Dallas should do - move on.



Why would we pick a RB #2 overall, watch him play great and then let him walk a few years later assuming no injury?


I don't think we will actually. But I think we should.

No need to re-litigate taking a RB at #2, which I would never do, but I am firmly in the camp that running backs grow on trees. So precious cap money is better spent elsewhere, no matter how great or special the RB is. Too much data suggests that RBs peak at 25-27. Which means getting real value from the second contract is highly unlikely.
So much will happen  
RickInCharlotte : 7/16/2019 8:53 pm : link
between now and when Barkley is due for another contract there's no reason to think about it. No reason.

Re: the Cowboys, I'm hoping tension in the locker room undoes their season. Lawrence got paid as many others now await their financial fate (Zeke, Dak, Cooper, Collins, Jones). I wish the Giants weren't playing them in Week 1 as everyone will have something to prove, but I'm hoping the Cowboys under perform for the year over money.
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