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| If you took one look at linebacker Lorenzo Carter during the Giants’ offseason program, it was easy to tell how much he’d bulked up since last season ended. “About 10-12 pounds,” Carter said. “I’m just trying to get stronger. It’s a league full of big guys, and I have to get bigger if I want to stay in it.” |
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That's my concern, though I believe it's possible to add muscle without losing significant speed.
Football players have a hard time keeping muscle on once they start playing, and don't have enough time/energy to lift like they do in the off season.
You can easily had 2 lb per month at that age without PEDs or HGH.
Haha no doubt, classic “so bad it’s good” movie.
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In about 6 months. It’s amazing that the NFL doesn’t have 50% of the league suspended for PED’s.
You can easily had 2 lb per month at that age without PEDs or HGH.
Lol, don't take this the wrong way, but that is beyond ignorant.
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Such a stupid movie, but that scene always makes me laugh.
Haha no doubt, classic “so bad it’s good” movie.
I legitimately love that movie and watch it every July/August. Starting defense! Place at the table!
That's bad for business and bad for everyone.
Just take a look sometimes at the incredibly high thresholds you have to be over to fail a drug test. You almost have to be of alien blood to do it.
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In about 6 months. It’s amazing that the NFL doesn’t have 50% of the league suspended for PED’s.
You can easily had 2 lb per month at that age without PEDs or HGH.
Lol, don't take this the wrong way, but that is beyond ignorant.
Really, what is beyond ignorant? I added 20 lbs in 26 weeks at age 26 without the advanced training techniques these guys have available to them while eating a normal diet, granted the quantity larger than normal.
10 to 12 lbs for an athlete of his caliber and age is not so hard to imagine.
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In about 6 months. It’s amazing that the NFL doesn’t have 50% of the league suspended for PED’s.
That's bad for business and bad for everyone.
Just take a look sometimes at the incredibly high thresholds you have to be over to fail a drug test. You almost have to be of alien blood to do it.
I've said it before on these threads, but the NFL let's its players pretty much use what is considered a beginner cycle and double of what any doctor will prescribe you.
That may be true, but it is not necessary to use PEDs to gain that much in 6 months.
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he's getting to the point that it is ignorant if you think Carter isn't in the 10% or so of players not using PED's. Including kickers....
That may be true, but it is not necessary to use PEDs to gain that much in 6 months.
It absolutely is.
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he's getting to the point that it is ignorant if you think Carter isn't in the 10% or so of players not using PED's. Including kickers....
That may be true, but it is not necessary to use PEDs to gain that much in 6 months.
It absolutely is.
It is absolutely true that you need PEDs to gain 10-12 lbs in 6 months(muscle)?
Taking PEDs won't cause him to lose any speed or agility, unless he was on some bodybuilding type routine which is highly doubtful.
believe it is for everything...those caught previously at random tests whenever the league wants.
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In comment 14499767 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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he's getting to the point that it is ignorant if you think Carter isn't in the 10% or so of players not using PED's. Including kickers....
That may be true, but it is not necessary to use PEDs to gain that much in 6 months.
It absolutely is.
It is absolutely true that you need PEDs to gain 10-12 lbs in 6 months(muscle)?
Yes, unless you never touched a weight before. And he gained 10-12 lbs of pure muscle. That is impossible without PEDs. And from the videos it looked like he did it in two months.
Yes, unless you never touched a weight before. And he gained 10-12 lbs of pure muscle. That is impossible without PEDs. And from the videos it looked like he did it in two months.
I just did a quick google search of a couple of places and as I said, 1-2 lbs per month is expected without PEDs.
These guys are just about at max natural testosterone period of their lives. But yeah if it was 2 months, then that would be suspect.
4/20? Good to know that somebody at the league office has a sense of humor.
It has been very much in line with what I've learned over the years from the training staffs.
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Yes, unless you never touched a weight before. And he gained 10-12 lbs of pure muscle. That is impossible without PEDs. And from the videos it looked like he did it in two months.
I just did a quick google search of a couple of places and as I said, 1-2 lbs per month is expected without PEDs.
These guys are just about at max natural testosterone period of their lives. But yeah if it was 2 months, then that would be suspect.
1-2 lbs of muscle a month for someone that has been lifting weights for years is ridiculous. There is a calculator out there that has been used to find out how much muscle you can have at frame measurements at wrist and ankle at relatively low body fats as has been measure through years of elite natural body building competitions. And these guys are even't guaranteed clean, just within a reasonable time of their competition.
Muscle memory has been proved to be a real thing as far as PEDs are concerned. When you have reached a certain musculature it has been proven that you can reach closer back there off the gear than if you never took them at all. Which brings up the issue that if you think PEDs are cheating than athletes who have ever taken them should be banned for life as it has given them a lifetime advantage.
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that for recreational drugs only or PEDs too?
4/20? Good to know that somebody at the league office has a sense of humor.
LOL right, its the only reason I can remember the date off the top of my head.
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Such a stupid movie, but that scene always makes me laugh.
Haha no doubt, classic “so bad it’s good” movie.
I legitimately love that movie and watch it every July/August. Starting defense! Place at the table!
Amusing random story...about 15 years ago me and a buddy were sitting at the bar in Yankee Doodles in Santa Monica, having a few beers and watching college football. Conversation turned to the quality of different LA strip clubs...and the guy sitting near us at the bar says he’s hopping a flight to Vegas in a couple hours, and we should join him for a night hitting the strip clubs there.
Didn’t recognize him at first due to long hair and beard, but realized it was the guy who played Lattimer in the Program. We chatted with him for a bit but declined the invite, as we had some event we’d committed to in LA that night. To this day, we regret not going, and seeing what sort of insanity would have resulted from rolling around Vegas with that guy for a night!
Haha spot on. I mean, I don’t even remember what the event was we thought we couldn’t miss, but we whiffed on what would have been a legendary trip. I do remember we ended up at that dirty joint under the 10 Freeway overpass later that night (club lingerie maybe?), but it was a poor consolation prize
One of the guys I worked with hung out with a few NFL players. He was in Arizona and worked out with Phillippi Sparks and a few other guys. We're in Vegas for a trade show and he asks if we wanted to go out that night. Now I know when he goes out, he's going to the club and dropping a ton of coin on bottle service and crap this old man can't hang with anymore. Plus, I was already lining up playing in a poker tourney.
Get to the booth the next day and no Wally. Finally shows up after lunch literally looking like he was hit by a bus. Puffy eyes. Still staggering. He ended up running into Junior Seau and they met up with a few other guys and head to a club. He says Seau paid for the group and had to have dropped about $5K minimum. Stayed out all night and said it was epic. Showed pics of the women they were with. Kicking myself because it would've been a blast and because I won't ever get that chance again.
One of the guys I worked with hung out with a few NFL players. He was in Arizona and worked out with Phillippi Sparks and a few other guys. We're in Vegas for a trade show and he asks if we wanted to go out that night. Now I know when he goes out, he's going to the club and dropping a ton of coin on bottle service and crap this old man can't hang with anymore. Plus, I was already lining up playing in a poker tourney.
Get to the booth the next day and no Wally. Finally shows up after lunch literally looking like he was hit by a bus. Puffy eyes. Still staggering. He ended up running into Junior Seau and they met up with a few other guys and head to a club. He says Seau paid for the group and had to have dropped about $5K minimum. Stayed out all night and said it was epic. Showed pics of the women they were with. Kicking myself because it would've been a blast and because I won't ever get that chance again.
But hey, you got to play in a poker tournament.
He was the life of the table. I couldn't ever tell if he was being funny or serious, but he was cranking out some funny stories. Someone said "Hey you were in Men in Black", and he said - "Yeah, but don't get any ideas about me and Will Smith. He went nowhere near my tight asshole!!"
interesting quip re. Dabo...been to Death Valley (or whatever they call it), quite the facilities up there, massive, hot as blazes on a day like this
Going to a September game there is like a 2 hour sauna!