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NGT: Freddie Kitchens on Duke Johnson: He wants to be traded

Britt in VA : 7/16/2019 10:50 am
I want to win the lottery.

That should go over well, haha.

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The bat..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/16/2019 10:52 am : link
signal is out for Duke Johnson's biggest fan!!!
I'm starting to like this Kitchens guy!  
Britt in VA : 7/16/2019 10:53 am : link
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At the right price  
Jay on the Island : 7/16/2019 10:55 am : link
He would be a solid addition for us if he could be had for a 6th or 7th.
Jacksonville may be a good destination  
jc in c-ville : 7/16/2019 10:55 am : link
As Fournette is strictly a power back and with Foles, they’re looking to win now.
I have serious doubts about the Kitchens hire, but he may be  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/16/2019 10:57 am : link
the perfect Cleveland head coach. No wonder Baker loves this guy.
Kamrin Moore for Duke - get it done  
PatersonPlank : 7/16/2019 11:00 am : link
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RE: The bat..  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/16/2019 11:23 am : link
In comment 14499733 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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signal is out for Duke Johnson's biggest fan!!!


I heard he likes Portuguese food.
RE: Jacksonville may be a good destination  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/16/2019 11:25 am : link
In comment 14499746 jc in c-ville said:
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As Fournette is strictly a power back and with Foles, they’re looking to win now.


He wants out of Cleveland because he wants a chance to be a starter there, which hasn't happened since he joined them. He's been a rotational 3rd down back there.
RE: RE: Jacksonville may be a good destination  
81_Great_Dane : 7/16/2019 11:35 am : link
In comment 14499811 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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As Fournette is strictly a power back and with Foles, they’re looking to win now.



He wants out of Cleveland because he wants a chance to be a starter there, which hasn't happened since he joined them. He's been a rotational 3rd down back there.
I like Duke Johnson in that role and would trade Gallman for him, but he's not going to start with the Giants unless something bad happens.
RE: RE: Jacksonville may be a good destination  
DavidinBMNY : 7/16/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14499811 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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As Fournette is strictly a power back and with Foles, they’re looking to win now.



He wants out of Cleveland because he wants a chance to be a starter there, which hasn't happened since he joined them. He's been a rotational 3rd down back there.
Doesn't he want out of Cleveland because he dropped from 2nd to 3rd on the depth chart? I am not 100% convinved he could shoulder the load of being a starter -isn't he nicked up a lot?
I still think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/16/2019 12:53 pm : link
Kitchens is going to end up being part of the issue. They are trying to duplicate the Sean McVay model, but I don't think Kitchens will.

He's going to end up trying to be a bro instead of a leader. And if that happens, the inmates will run the asylum. I really just see that whole situation ripe for implosion.
RE: Kamrin Moore for Duke - get it done  
Big Blue '56 : 7/16/2019 1:00 pm : link
In comment 14499762 PatersonPlank said:
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😂😂
it's a mystery here in cle  
Dave : 7/16/2019 2:24 pm : link
why they don't get him more touches

disclaimer, I've loved the Duke since his miami days
he's not a pound it between the tackles guy  
Dave : 7/16/2019 2:26 pm : link
he's def more of a scat back, but for some reason they hardly ever use him
Not really a professional  
madgiantscow009 : 7/16/2019 3:40 pm : link
thing to say as a head coach.
he has 1.5 seasons  
MotownGIANTS : 7/16/2019 5:31 pm : link
as the HC ....
He wants to be a starter on another team because starters make  
GeofromNJ : 7/16/2019 10:18 pm : link
more money. Why this attitude is deemed disruptive in his case but in the case of stars, holding out for more money or wanting to renegotiate your contract is considered good business seems mighty hypocritical.
RE: He wants to be a starter on another team because starters make  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/16/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14500305 GeofromNJ said:
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more money. Why this attitude is deemed disruptive in his case but in the case of stars, holding out for more money or wanting to renegotiate your contract is considered good business seems mighty hypocritical.


I was on his side too, but than I looked at his contract. He is under contract for 3 more years. Makes no sense from a business aspect because Hunt will be outta town in a year.
RE: RE: RE: Jacksonville may be a good destination  
allstarjim : 7/17/2019 1:02 am : link
In comment 14499828 81_Great_Dane said:
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As Fournette is strictly a power back and with Foles, they’re looking to win now.



He wants out of Cleveland because he wants a chance to be a starter there, which hasn't happened since he joined them. He's been a rotational 3rd down back there.

I like Duke Johnson in that role and would trade Gallman for him, but he's not going to start with the Giants unless something bad happens.


Totally disagree. Gallman is better and a much stronger 3-down fallback in case of injury to Saquon, and Rod Smith does everything Duke can do and is better between the tackles.
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BlueLou'sBack : 7/17/2019 2:43 am : link
In comment 14500366 allstarjim said:
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As Fournette is strictly a power back and with Foles, they’re looking to win now.



He wants out of Cleveland because he wants a chance to be a starter there, which hasn't happened since he joined them. He's been a rotational 3rd down back there.

I like Duke Johnson in that role and would trade Gallman for him, but he's not going to start with the Giants unless something bad happens.



Totally disagree. Gallman is better and a much stronger 3-down fallback in case of injury to Saquon, and Rod Smith does everything Duke can do and is better between the tackles.


What on earth makes you think Wayne Gallman is better than Duke Johnson at any aspect of being a running back? His career stats suck compared with Johnson, and it's not as if another RB (Barkley) hasn't flourished behind the same OL and with the same QB Gallman has played with.

Since and including his days at Clemson I see nothing good about Gallman, he's the JAG's JAG at RB in the NFL and he has ball security issues and a poor catch rate.

I really don't get the love for Gallman here. He's part of the problem of low level personnel on the Giants drafted by Ross and Reese, not part of any solution. He, like Andre Williams before him, will struggle to make an active roster in this league once cut... unless he becomes proficient at STs coverage units play.
This guy would be deadly  
bhill410 : 7/17/2019 6:40 am : link
In new orleans
Johnson is what he is. Third down back. Never a starting RB.  
Ivan15 : 7/17/2019 6:56 am : link
Might put up bigger numbers in a wide open offense but it seems like he wants out of a wide open offense because he won’t be getting enough touches and can’t beat out the guys ahead of him. Same problem no matter where he ends up.
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