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Baker Mayfield gave Giants fans a not to subtle jab

Anakim : 7/17/2019 10:54 am
Something about how OBJ will be playing in front of fans who care and not half-empty seats. Can't pull the exact quote, but it's on Twitter.

Really garbage thing to say.


In other news, I just saw DanMetroMan on Broadway!
What an incredibly dumb comment  
Sean : 7/17/2019 10:55 am : link
.
Man  
figgy2989 : 7/17/2019 10:57 am : link
The Browns win 7 games after a decade of futility and all of a sudden they are among the elite teams in the NFL?


Didn't realize DMM was part of the Book of Mormon Cast, guess that would explain him not being on the Mets threads the past few weeks.
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/17/2019 10:57 am : link
was in fact on Broadway sweating my ass off. This was a real celebrity sighting. I saw Marisa Tomei yesterday, I win.
found it  
GMAN4LIFE : 7/17/2019 10:58 am : link
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When I ask Mayfield about the back-and-forth, he says it bothers him when people perpetuate misinformation about the wide receiver. "He's here to work, and he wants to be surrounded by people who love him and support him and allow him to be himself," he says. "He's here to play in front of fans who actually care, who will actually show up to every game and pack the stadium and love him for who he is." (Regrettably, the Browns do not play the Giants this year.)




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One of the most hateable player in sports  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 11:00 am : link
Total dick and douchebag who thinks his shit doesnít stink. Him failing will make me smile.
f him  
BillyM : 7/17/2019 11:04 am : link
Guy is a clown. The Giants up until PSL's had a 25 year waiting list for tix.
tweet  
jestersdead : 7/17/2019 11:04 am : link
here
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Mayfield saying  
Beezer : 7/17/2019 11:08 am : link
Giants fans don't care.

All you need to see.
RE: One of the most hateable player in sports  
Thegratefulhead : 7/17/2019 11:10 am : link
In comment 14500598 dep026 said:
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Total dick and douchebag who thinks his shit doesnít stink. Him failing will make me smile.
That is a little over the top? Until he tries to deliberately hurt someone or commits a horrible crime on par to what we have seen,most hateable is kind of harsh. He is just an ass.
What...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/17/2019 11:11 am : link
a tool.

In our terrible 2018 and the Browns resurgence:

Giants:
Total attendance - 1,183,132
Home attendance - 615,525

Browns:
Total Attendance - 1,045,441
Home Attendance - 526,122

Such shitty attendance!!
The replies are hysterical  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 11:11 am : link
the pictures of empty browns stadiums or the ones where the crowd is filled with other teams supporters.

He is such a clown.
RE: RE: One of the most hateable player in sports  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 11:12 am : link
In comment 14500609 Thegratefulhead said:
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In comment 14500598 dep026 said:


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Total dick and douchebag who thinks his shit doesnít stink. Him failing will make me smile.

That is a little over the top? Until he tries to deliberately hurt someone or commits a horrible crime on par to what we have seen,most hateable is kind of harsh. He is just an ass.


Insulting people makes him an ass. And this isnt the first time he has done it. He trashes opponents, teammates, and other teams fans.

Yes he is easily hateable.
And if he isnt hateable  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 11:13 am : link
that makes him likeable?

Him and OBJ are made for each other. Hopefully failure follows them.
Baker  
TyreeHelmet : 7/17/2019 11:14 am : link
Really canít stand this guy even outside this dumb comment.

Whatís up with his weird beef with Hue Jackson? Guy really does seem like an asshole.
"fans who care and not half-empty seats"  
x meadowlander : 7/17/2019 11:15 am : link
That's actually accurate.

Cleveland is a LOT more passionate about the Browns than Giant fans are in general. He will be more appreciated there, I believe.




But he won't be happier. :)
At 7-8-1 the Cleveland Browns are back baby!  
Chris684 : 7/17/2019 11:17 am : link
I can't wait to watch them fail...

You folks see that woman  
Beezer : 7/17/2019 11:18 am : link
catching the bouquet on that Twitter thread?

Woman catching bouquet >>> OBJ's "catch"

lol
I have nothing against Cleveland...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/17/2019 11:24 am : link
But the hype surrounding them is getting a little too absurd.
This sounds like the equivalent  
mfsd : 7/17/2019 11:26 am : link
of a chicks new boyfriend mocking her ex who dumped her bc he was tired of her shit.

Next week, on Real Lives of Cleveland High!
...  
BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2019 11:26 am : link
Lol, Anak, don't you pretty much shit talk every non-Ranger/Knick fanbase for their crowd size?
How..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/17/2019 11:26 am : link
can DanMetroMan type with Jazz Hands??
Baker is hot blooded  
Les in TO : 7/17/2019 11:28 am : link
And speaks his mind unfiltered. Not the first or last time heíll stir the pot.
RE:  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 7/17/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14500621 x meadowlander said:
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That's actually accurate.

Cleveland is a LOT more passionate about the Browns than Giant fans are in general. He will be more appreciated there, I believe.




But he won't be happier. :)



The attendance numbers would contradict that. Cleveland has some passionate die hards, but not enough to fill the seats on a regular basis.
Baker was attacking Tetxas Longhorns QB  
Post Time : 7/17/2019 11:42 am : link
just because he went to a rival HS.

Think about that, NFL pro going after a college QB!
RE: RE: RE: One of the most hateable player in sports  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/17/2019 11:45 am : link
In comment 14500613 dep026 said:
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In comment 14500609 Thegratefulhead said:


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In comment 14500598 dep026 said:


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Total dick and douchebag who thinks his shit doesnít stink. Him failing will make me smile.

That is a little over the top? Until he tries to deliberately hurt someone or commits a horrible crime on par to what we have seen,most hateable is kind of harsh. He is just an ass.



Insulting people makes him an ass. And this isnt the first time he has done it. He trashes opponents, teammates, and other teams fans.

Yes he is easily hateable.


If that's the bar for being an ass what do you consider yourself when your trashing other peoples opinions here?

Asking for a friend.
You're not fooling me...  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 11:47 am : link
You dont have any friends... :)
This pic in the comments is great  
Danny Kanell : 7/17/2019 11:48 am : link
Cleveland fans might care,  
MOOPS : 7/17/2019 11:49 am : link
but OBJ sure doesn't. He wants no part of Cleveland and will be gone in two years tops.
It's friggin Cleveland!!!!
This really stinks, I want to cheer for the Browns  
ZogZerg : 7/17/2019 11:54 am : link
But, the players are making that very difficult.
The Browns  
Gman11 : 7/17/2019 11:56 am : link
will allow him to be himself.

Translation: They are OK with a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty after a 20 yard gain.

I do have to agree that Cleveland really backs their team. After all, it's not like they packed up and moved to Baltimore or anything.
RE: The Browns  
ron mexico : 7/17/2019 11:57 am : link
In comment 14500657 Gman11 said:
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will allow him to be himself.

Translation: They are OK with a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty after a 20 yard gain.

I do have to agree that Cleveland really backs their team. After all, it's not like they packed up and moved to Baltimore or anything.


you can't really blame browns fans for that
While Mayfield is a very talented qb, he's also very full of himself.  
Ira : 7/17/2019 11:58 am : link
He's easy to root against.
RE: What...  
figgy2989 : 7/17/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14500611 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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a tool.

In our terrible 2018 and the Browns resurgence:

Giants:
Total attendance - 1,183,132
Home attendance - 615,525

Browns:
Total Attendance - 1,045,441
Home Attendance - 526,122

Such shitty attendance!!


FMiC, not trying to stick up for Browns fans here, but MetLife seats 83K and First Energy seats 68K. Thats a 15K seat difference, so 8 homes games 120K people over a season difference.
Oh ffs, stfu  
GiantsRage2007 : 7/17/2019 12:04 pm : link
"...he wants to be surrounded by people who love him and support him and allow him to be himself..."

Oh boo fucking hoo... stfu
This is going to be fun to watch.  
Britt in VA : 7/17/2019 12:05 pm : link
They are an unlikable bunch.
Yes easily hate-able  
Tony in Tampa : 7/17/2019 12:06 pm : link
unless he's throwing TDs for your team. Amazing how many jerks are forgiven and even elevated for their talent. Imagine if by some fluke this guy became a Giant in his prime, but with the same idiotic comments and behavior. Would he be defended here? Would there be explaining of what the tweet really meant?
The Browns..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/17/2019 12:07 pm : link
are reminding me quite a bit like Jax going into last season. The difference is, Jax was in a Championship game and the arrow was pointing way up.

The Browns STILL didn't hit .500
An the irony of some posters...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/17/2019 12:08 pm : link
who villified OBJ for his tweets and antics who seem to think Baker is just fine isn't lost on me.
RE: The Browns..  
giants#1 : 7/17/2019 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14500673 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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are reminding me quite a bit like Jax going into last season. The difference is, Jax was in a Championship game and the arrow was pointing way up.

The Browns STILL didn't hit .500


To be fair, there's also a massive difference at the QB position. Like him or not, Mayfield >>> Bortles.
RE: Yes easily hate-able  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 12:11 pm : link
In comment 14500672 Tony in Tampa said:
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unless he's throwing TDs for your team. Amazing how many jerks are forgiven and even elevated for their talent. Imagine if by some fluke this guy became a Giant in his prime, but with the same idiotic comments and behavior. Would he be defended here? Would there be explaining of what the tweet really meant?


Um many posters like myself didnt condone what OBJ and his antics brought to the team. So why would we condone Bakers?
RE: ...  
Anakim : 7/17/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14500634 BrettNYG10 said:
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Lol, Anak, don't you pretty much shit talk every non-Ranger/Knick fanbase for their crowd size?


Yeah, so? It just so happens that the teams I support are popular.
LOL, when the Browns played the Steelers the last 20 years  
dpinzow : 7/17/2019 12:22 pm : link
it was at least 50% Steelers fans in Cleveland
.  
rocco8112 : 7/17/2019 12:35 pm : link
Going to enjoy rooting against the Browns. When the Giants suck, it helps me to have players or teams to be villians to keep interest. Browns fit that bill with Beckham and Mayfield. Juvenile, but fun. Hopefully the Giants will provide the fans a season with meaning past October this year.
RE: RE: Yes easily hate-able  
Tony in Tampa : 7/17/2019 12:36 pm : link
In comment 14500677 dep026 said:
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In comment 14500672 Tony in Tampa said:


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unless he's throwing TDs for your team. Amazing how many jerks are forgiven and even elevated for their talent. Imagine if by some fluke this guy became a Giant in his prime, but with the same idiotic comments and behavior. Would he be defended here? Would there be explaining of what the tweet really meant?



Um many posters like myself didnt condone what OBJ and his antics brought to the team. So why would we condone Bakers?


I too did not like OBJs antics but I forgave due to his immense talent. Just wondering if it is easier to like/tolerate these guys when they are winning for you.
do you really need to wonder?  
ron mexico : 7/17/2019 12:38 pm : link
the answer is pretty obvious

No its not...  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 12:38 pm : link
I maybe in the minority, but the character of the player is just as important as the talent.

Knowing what I know now, I'm sure I would have had a hard time rooting for LT.
LT..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/17/2019 12:40 pm : link
was very different.

He wasn't a look at me guy and didn't trash opponents publicly.

He liked blow and hookers.

Hell, he even called for help when he broke that asshole Theesman's leg.....
Iím actively rooting for the Browns to implode  
trueblueinpw : 7/17/2019 12:42 pm : link
Canít wait!
RE: LT..  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 12:48 pm : link
In comment 14500715 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was very different.

He wasn't a look at me guy and didn't trash opponents publicly.

He liked blow and hookers.

Hell, he even called for help when he broke that asshole Theesman's leg.....


Well LT is different because if he played today, if he did blow - he would be suspended, and we couldnt root for him. If he was off blow, there would be no problems.
RE: No its not...  
Matt in SGS : 7/17/2019 12:48 pm : link
In comment 14500711 dep026 said:
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I maybe in the minority, but the character of the player is just as important as the talent.

Knowing what I know now, I'm sure I would have had a hard time rooting for LT.


What LT was up to was hardly a secret in the 1980s. Do you think anyone really believed that he beat his drug addiction by checking out of rehab and playing golf? There just wasn't a 24 hour news cycle back then. Stories of LT sending hookers to the opposition the night before a game was the stuff of legend. I've written on BBI before that I have stayed in touch with Byron Hunt over the years and he told me stories about LT (he was LT's roommate) that I can't print but it was pretty known among the team and some of the long time beat writers.

It was a different era, particularly with the recreational drug use. Remember the Patriots had about 7 guys caught up in a drug controversy after the Super Bowl loss to the Bears? The 1986 Mets team was as coked up as any team in the decade.
Hateable  
Thegratefulhead : 7/17/2019 12:49 pm : link
Is the language I object to. We hate far too easily in this country. I think hate should be reserved for despicable people. Baker is just an ass that lacks class.
RE: LOL, when the Browns played the Steelers the last 20 years  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/17/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14500686 dpinzow said:
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it was at least 50% Steelers fans in Cleveland


I mean you could say the same thing for some of our division openents the last five. Happens when you suck and out of playoff races.

Regarding the actual comment. Is anything he said actually wrong. The way the Browns are looking to do business this year is much different than what the Giants usually operate.

RE: Hateable  
dep026 : 7/17/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14500729 Thegratefulhead said:
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Is the language I object to. We hate far too easily in this country. I think hate should be reserved for despicable people. Baker is just an ass that lacks class.


fair enough. Ill rephrase. One of the most unrootable players in sports!
RE: RE: No its not...  
Matt M. : 7/17/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14500728 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 14500711 dep026 said:


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I maybe in the minority, but the character of the player is just as important as the talent.

Knowing what I know now, I'm sure I would have had a hard time rooting for LT.



What LT was up to was hardly a secret in the 1980s. Do you think anyone really believed that he beat his drug addiction by checking out of rehab and playing golf? There just wasn't a 24 hour news cycle back then. Stories of LT sending hookers to the opposition the night before a game was the stuff of legend. I've written on BBI before that I have stayed in touch with Byron Hunt over the years and he told me stories about LT (he was LT's roommate) that I can't print but it was pretty known among the team and some of the long time beat writers.

It was a different era, particularly with the recreational drug use. Remember the Patriots had about 7 guys caught up in a drug controversy after the Super Bowl loss to the Bears? The 1986 Mets team was as coked up as any team in the decade.
I can only speak for myself. Maybe it's the era or maybe it's because I was adolescent and teen more most of LT's career. But, outside of the coke use, I knew nothing about anything else he did off the field until many years after his playing days were done.

I was just thinking about him the other day when the thread about the Giants S nailed for domestic violence was shared. I can honestly say, if we knew of LT doing something like that back then, I would absolutely by first in line to be rid of him too.

However, I am jaded by not knowing what a checkered life he led. Thus, I really only look back on him for his on field play. This is why, now more than ever, I think we have to be careful about how we view current athletes. Their lives are so much more fragile now with the combination of cell phones, 24 news cycles, and social media.
am i really going to have to fucking hate the Browns?  
Jints in Carolina : 7/17/2019 1:01 pm : link
.
As for Mayfield's comments  
Matt M. : 7/17/2019 1:01 pm : link
I don't really care. First off, Met Life hasn't exactly been rocking for the better part of 2 seasons, so he's not that off base. Second, I didn't really care much about OBJ's tweets before or after the trade. I think they were stupid and off base, but it didn't really bother me as long as he was performing.

I do think OBJ was disingenuous in his tweets trying to make it look like the trade came out of left field and how the Giants did him wrong because he wanted to be here. This is a guy who within about a week of signing a new deal with the Giants was tweeting about wanting to play in California. He didn't want to be here; he just wanted to be paid immediately. So, now he got one of his wishes to play with his buddy Landry. I do think Cleveland is on the upswing, so I don't expect these kinds of comments to die down. I do expect some tweet from OBJ in the first week or two after scoring a TD and taking a veiled shot at Eli and or the Giants with a comment supposedly about Mayfield. And, you know what? That won't bother me then either.

All I care about is Peppers plays well at SS, since he came in the deal, our moves put us on the upswing, and Tate and others play enough of a supporting cast for Barkley to make this a viable offense.
as for the attendance arguement  
Matt in SGS : 7/17/2019 1:09 pm : link
I will go with this anecdotal evidence. I have had season tickets since 1987, the tickets have been in my family since the Yankee Stadium days and were passed down eventually to me. There is a demarcation line when PSLs entered the mix since that changed all the dynamics. The waiting list was blown through, and the seat licenses made the game tickets more of an investment since you always had it over your head to potentially sell tickets to make money back.

For me personally, I"m a terrible businessman when it comes to the Giants. I ate the PSLs for my 4 seats because I have 2 sons that were very young (under 6 years old at the time), with the go forward plan that as they got older, I would go to the games with them and I'd have an extra seat for a friend to come. So I made that call. But I can say that when I was in my old seats, it was the same people week in week out from 1987-2009 for me. Once the PSLs came in, it was always a different person sitting near me, with their printed out stubhub ticket.

That said, this year was the shittiest weather wise that I can recall. The Giants had 8 home games. It rained in 4 of them. And not like a little sprinkle, but a crappy consistent rain. I've gone years with no rain at games, or maybe 1 game with rain. Half the games had "bad" weather.

That leads me to the Titans game. In my 30+ years of going to Giants games, that was the single worst weather game that I've ever sat at. It was in the upper 30s and a torrential downpour. For a Giants team that was out of it at 5-8, against an opponent that no one gave a shit about (the Titans). Nevermind the game itself was an abortion (though I maintain the Giants are building a roster that is based on how the Titans play, with a strong running game and OL, a QB who manages the game, and big defense, but anyway), but I checked the attendance. It was the Giants lowest attended game that year, 74,538. Which is still 90.3% full.

To give that some context, the Giants played the Redskins at FedEx field in December and the Redskins started Mark Sanchez. The Giants are a rival, more than can be said for the Giants vs. Titans game. FedEx holds 82000. That game had 57437 in attendance, for 70% capacity.

MetLife might not be what Giants Stadium used to be, but Baker is a clown and the Browns really are building a team that is going to be one of the most unlikeable in the NFL, particularly because they are built around a roster that has a bunch of big names who haven't won with a rookie head coach. As the old saying go, potential is just a French word for "ain't done shit yet."
Matt I think you sum up my feelings well  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/17/2019 1:13 pm : link
Many here are acting as jilted as O'Dell did. The only real issue I've ever had with Odell is the one you mentioned. Guy acts like this trade was outta left field and he wasn't practically asking for it.
By the end of 2019, Baker will have shown to be the biggest jackass QB  
Ivan15 : 7/17/2019 1:14 pm : link
In the league. And he has some tough competition for that title.
Cleveland sports fans in general are crazy loyal and passionate.  
Spider56 : 7/17/2019 1:14 pm : link
Plus Ohio is a huge Football State but their stadium sits right on the freakin lake ... Most winters are brutal and the wind howls like crazy ... Letís see Baker, OBJ and the other children say in late December.
The attendance argument is just as disingenuous as  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/17/2019 1:20 pm : link
Odell acting like the trade came outta no where.

Cleveland metro - 2 million

NY metro - 20 million
RE: By the end of 2019, Baker will have shown to be the biggest jackass QB  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/17/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14500757 Ivan15 said:
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In the league. And he has some tough competition for that title.


I doubt Cleveland fans will give a fuck and neither will Baker. He is there for Cleveland and not the rest of the NFL.
My experience with Cleveland...  
x meadowlander : 7/17/2019 1:49 pm : link
...is that the city treats the Browns much the same way a major college football program is supported in it's home city.

Lord knows the organization doesn't deserve the tremendous support it gets, but it's palpable in the city.
figgy..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/17/2019 1:56 pm : link
I was just using last season's attendance as the Browns are apparently a juggernaut in the making:

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FMiC, not trying to stick up for Browns fans here, but MetLife seats 83K and First Energy seats 68K. Thats a 15K seat difference, so 8 homes games 120K people over a season difference.


But looking at the past several season's, even with the capacity difference, the Giants average more fans per game by a decent margin.

Bottom line is Mayfield shouldn't really throw stones about empty seats because even with his accuracy he might find it tough to hit a Browns fan with their spotty support.
I guess Baker forgot when the city lost their team  
RobCarpenter : 7/17/2019 1:56 pm : link
To Baltimore.

Just wait until OBJ and Vernon get injured this year. And if history is any guide, they will.
Just read Mayfieldís comments.  
LauderdaleMatty : 7/17/2019 2:08 pm : link
Translation. If your criticize anything OBJ does you donít love him enough it hurts his feelings.

Heís a high maintenance bitch in other words. The next WR who really leads his team to a SB championship will be the first. Most over rated position in the NFL. Shit they had to change the rules to make them more relevant and the fantasy crowd interested.

Thereís part of reason the Pats keep winning. They donít rely on those types of guys.
RE: Cleveland sports fans in general are crazy loyal and passionate.  
Thegratefulhead : 7/17/2019 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14500758 Spider56 said:
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Plus Ohio is a huge Football State but their stadium sits right on the freakin lake ... Most winters are brutal and the wind howls like crazy ... Letís see Baker, OBJ and the other children say in late December.
You think Odell will be on the "hands team" for kickoffs in Cleveland late December?
RE: Just read Mayfieldís comments.  
Chris684 : 7/17/2019 2:34 pm : link
In comment 14500827 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Translation. If your criticize anything OBJ does you donít love him enough it hurts his feelings.

Heís a high maintenance bitch in other words. The next WR who really leads his team to a SB championship will be the first. Most over rated position in the NFL. Shit they had to change the rules to make them more relevant and the fantasy crowd interested.

Thereís part of reason the Pats keep winning. They donít rely on those types of guys.


There is a lot of truth in this post.

More than many realize.
Defensive lineman are gonna love hitting this guy  
ghost718 : 7/17/2019 2:41 pm : link
Sack records might be going down in the near future
RE: as for the attendance arguement  
Rjanyg : 7/17/2019 2:41 pm : link
In comment 14500752 Matt in SGS said:
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I will go with this anecdotal evidence. I have had season tickets since 1987, the tickets have been in my family since the Yankee Stadium days and were passed down eventually to me. There is a demarcation line when PSLs entered the mix since that changed all the dynamics. The waiting list was blown through, and the seat licenses made the game tickets more of an investment since you always had it over your head to potentially sell tickets to make money back.

For me personally, I"m a terrible businessman when it comes to the Giants. I ate the PSLs for my 4 seats because I have 2 sons that were very young (under 6 years old at the time), with the go forward plan that as they got older, I would go to the games with them and I'd have an extra seat for a friend to come. So I made that call. But I can say that when I was in my old seats, it was the same people week in week out from 1987-2009 for me. Once the PSLs came in, it was always a different person sitting near me, with their printed out stubhub ticket.

That said, this year was the shittiest weather wise that I can recall. The Giants had 8 home games. It rained in 4 of them. And not like a little sprinkle, but a crappy consistent rain. I've gone years with no rain at games, or maybe 1 game with rain. Half the games had "bad" weather.

That leads me to the Titans game. In my 30+ years of going to Giants games, that was the single worst weather game that I've ever sat at. It was in the upper 30s and a torrential downpour. For a Giants team that was out of it at 5-8, against an opponent that no one gave a shit about (the Titans). Nevermind the game itself was an abortion (though I maintain the Giants are building a roster that is based on how the Titans play, with a strong running game and OL, a QB who manages the game, and big defense, but anyway), but I checked the attendance. It was the Giants lowest attended game that year, 74,538. Which is still 90.3% full.

To give that some context, the Giants played the Redskins at FedEx field in December and the Redskins started Mark Sanchez. The Giants are a rival, more than can be said for the Giants vs. Titans game. FedEx holds 82000. That game had 57437 in attendance, for 70% capacity.

MetLife might not be what Giants Stadium used to be, but Baker is a clown and the Browns really are building a team that is going to be one of the most unlikeable in the NFL, particularly because they are built around a roster that has a bunch of big names who haven't won with a rookie head coach. As the old saying go, potential is just a French word for "ain't done shit yet."


Great post Matt!
Screw him ...  
Manny in CA : 7/17/2019 2:42 pm : link

He should be celebrating that he has a talent like OBJ on the team. The NY Giants ought to be an incidental footnote

He sounds like a miserable so-and-so; he can't stay out of other people's business (like other players' contract negotiations). He can't be happy when life hands him a silver platter, just wait till life clobbers him on the head with it
Think lot of these guys are jealous of NYC  
TMS : 7/17/2019 3:03 pm : link
and wish they had a chance to play here. OBJ will notice the difference right away but he made his bed. MO.
No one knows what the Browns will do.  
FStubbs : 7/17/2019 3:45 pm : link
They have a volatile locker room and a rookie head coach. The guy who actually got them to 7-8-1 last year isn't in the locker room anymore - which is an injustice as I felt Williams had earned the job, and IIRC Kitchens was on nobody's list as a HC.
RE: No one knows what the Browns will do.  
LauderdaleMatty : 7/17/2019 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14500962 FStubbs said:
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They have a volatile locker room and a rookie head coach. The guy who actually got them to 7-8-1 last year isn't in the locker room anymore - which is an injustice as I felt Williams had earned the job, and IIRC Kitchens was on nobody's list as a HC.


Ownership screwed up. Hey his whole idea of hiring guys w zero experience and thin ass resumes is due to the Rams hitting gold w McVay.

Maybe GB works due to Rodgers but Mayfield while talents isnít Rodgers and may never be close. Clevland is a powder keg
OBJ will score a ton of TDs for the Browns, assuming he stays healthy  
GeofromNJ : 7/17/2019 4:52 pm : link
The Browns O-line and Mayfield's mobility will enable OBJ to get downfield and score - possibly at will, unless he's tripled team.

However, no way does Odell want to be in Cleveland. He would much rather be in CA, FL, or NYC. I expect him to be out of the city every chance he gets - during the season. I also expect him to tire of Cleveland by the end of the year. Next year is going to awful for OBJ because it will become all too apparent that he's a prisoner in a city he really doesn't want to be in.
I think it is absolutely silly to think that he is a "prisoner"  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/17/2019 5:03 pm : link
in Cleveland. Unless it is for weather reasons that shit would probably grate on you. And the weather in NY and Cleveland is pretty similar. Odell has more than enough money to do whatever he wants in the offseason. These guys don't really party all that much during the season and and they spend half their weekends in other places.
I will never root for injuries,  
smshmth8690 : 7/17/2019 5:05 pm : link
but I do hope the Browns lose every game, against the AFC anyway.
RE: RE: as for the attendance arguement  
Matt M. : 7/17/2019 5:08 pm : link
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I will go with this anecdotal evidence. I have had season tickets since 1987, the tickets have been in my family since the Yankee Stadium days and were passed down eventually to me. There is a demarcation line when PSLs entered the mix since that changed all the dynamics. The waiting list was blown through, and the seat licenses made the game tickets more of an investment since you always had it over your head to potentially sell tickets to make money back.

For me personally, I"m a terrible businessman when it comes to the Giants. I ate the PSLs for my 4 seats because I have 2 sons that were very young (under 6 years old at the time), with the go forward plan that as they got older, I would go to the games with them and I'd have an extra seat for a friend to come. So I made that call. But I can say that when I was in my old seats, it was the same people week in week out from 1987-2009 for me. Once the PSLs came in, it was always a different person sitting near me, with their printed out stubhub ticket.

That said, this year was the shittiest weather wise that I can recall. The Giants had 8 home games. It rained in 4 of them. And not like a little sprinkle, but a crappy consistent rain. I've gone years with no rain at games, or maybe 1 game with rain. Half the games had "bad" weather.

That leads me to the Titans game. In my 30+ years of going to Giants games, that was the single worst weather game that I've ever sat at. It was in the upper 30s and a torrential downpour. For a Giants team that was out of it at 5-8, against an opponent that no one gave a shit about (the Titans). Nevermind the game itself was an abortion (though I maintain the Giants are building a roster that is based on how the Titans play, with a strong running game and OL, a QB who manages the game, and big defense, but anyway), but I checked the attendance. It was the Giants lowest attended game that year, 74,538. Which is still 90.3% full.

To give that some context, the Giants played the Redskins at FedEx field in December and the Redskins started Mark Sanchez. The Giants are a rival, more than can be said for the Giants vs. Titans game. FedEx holds 82000. That game had 57437 in attendance, for 70% capacity.

MetLife might not be what Giants Stadium used to be, but Baker is a clown and the Browns really are building a team that is going to be one of the most unlikeable in the NFL, particularly because they are built around a roster that has a bunch of big names who haven't won with a rookie head coach. As the old saying go, potential is just a French word for "ain't done shit yet."



Great post Matt!
It was a great post. But, for contrast or context, what would you approximate the actual attendance at for the Titans game in the 3rd quarter, as opposed to the gate at the start of the game? I think that is where the crowd can come in to question.
RE: I  
Anakim : 7/17/2019 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14500593 DanMetroMan said:
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was in fact on Broadway sweating my ass off. This was a real celebrity sighting. I saw Marisa Tomei yesterday, I win.


I was gonna say hi, but you seemed busy and you also sneezed and I CANNOT get sick. Haha
As Carlin on WFAN pointed out, didn't Mayfield criticize Cleveland  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/17/2019 5:12 pm : link
fans for not showing up to the Panthers game last year?

He may be a good player, but he's a mental midget. Don't bother getting worked up over anything he says. It's too bad that he's damn good and will have a mic in front of him all the time.
For the 2018 Draft I wanted Barkley or Mayfield.  
justafan : 7/17/2019 5:16 pm : link
I didn't particularly care which one we grabbed because I knew both would be good players. Sucks that one of the guys I wanted is proving he's a douche. Would've really liked to root for the guy.
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Mr. Bungle : 7/17/2019 5:24 pm : link
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Mr. Bungle : 7/17/2019 5:27 pm : link
RE: ...  
bubba0825 : 7/17/2019 5:35 pm : link
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Itís almost like theyíre really an expansion team. PS their owner should be in jail
RE: RE: No its not...  
Bluesbreaker : 7/17/2019 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14500728 Matt in SGS said:
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I maybe in the minority, but the character of the player is just as important as the talent.

Knowing what I know now, I'm sure I would have had a hard time rooting for LT.



What LT was up to was hardly a secret in the 1980s. Do you think anyone really believed that he beat his drug addiction by checking out of rehab and playing golf? There just wasn't a 24 hour news cycle back then. Stories of LT sending hookers to the opposition the night before a game was the stuff of legend. I've written on BBI before that I have stayed in touch with Byron Hunt over the years and he told me stories about LT (he was LT's roommate) that I can't print but it was pretty known among the team and some of the long time beat writers.

It was a different era, particularly with the recreational drug use. Remember the Patriots had about 7 guys caught up in a drug controversy after the Super Bowl loss to the Bears? The 1986 Mets team was as coked up as any team in the decade.


Exactly totally different era drug use was so rampant .Mentioning Byron Hunt remember watching pre-game warm ups and Taylor was running a drill where they basically ran at each other and bumped each other and Taylor picked up Hunt lifted him up and shook him like a rag doll he was a beast .
Immature prick  
fanofthejets : 7/17/2019 6:02 pm : link
Just trying to stir up shit.

I think he'll be a good QB but he's also a guy I'd worry about when the going gets bad.
RE: For the 2018 Draft I wanted Barkley or Mayfield.  
LauderdaleMatty : 7/17/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14501050 justafan said:
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I didn't particularly care which one we grabbed because I knew both would be good players. Sucks that one of the guys I wanted is proving he's a douche. Would've really liked to root for the guy.


Same here. He needs to grow up but wonít Clevland hired Kitchens who wonít challenge him. He needed a strong coach. Between him Landry and OBJ they have little self control and maturity. When things are good they will be fine. When they go bad it will be a shit show.

Also I have almost zero confidence OBJ ever plays 16 games again
Oh the irony...  
Mike from Ohio : 7/17/2019 7:34 pm : link
Anak starting a thread saying it is a ďgarbage thing to sayĒ to rip on another teamís fan support and attendance.

Agree with Anak totally though, that it is a garbage thing to say and hopefully Mayfield will realize how idiotic he sounds.
RE: Oh the irony...  
Anakim : 7/17/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14501108 Mike from Ohio said:
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Anak starting a thread saying it is a ďgarbage thing to sayĒ to rip on another teamís fan support and attendance.

Agree with Anak totally though, that it is a garbage thing to say and hopefully Mayfield will realize how idiotic he sounds.


Well, it's garbage because it's not true
I lived with a Browns fan for a little bit from Ohio so I have some  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/17/2019 8:33 pm : link
insight into this. They kinda love their suffering, its part of their identity. I can kind of relate to this as a Knicks fan and revel in the same, but like him and many other Browns fans I'm sure their interest has waned has the perpetual ineptitude is grating. I do think they support because they are probably terrified have the team skipping out of town again. However, none of them are really suffering as they are practically all Ohio State fans.
Any goodwill for the Browns I had...  
RickInCharlotte : 7/18/2019 8:05 am : link
...from watching Hard Knocks last year is gone. Mayfield is a jerk.
At Some Point In The Season Mayfield's Mouth Is Going To Get Into It  
blink667 : 7/18/2019 9:44 am : link
... with some of the on-field talent when a close lose occurs; can't wait for the fireworks, the sulking, sideline drama. So much for a team full of super stars going to the SB.
Baker is backing OBJ vs the world  
GiantsLaw : 7/18/2019 10:03 am : link
in order to get in OBJ's good graces. From a chemistry/team building standpoint, it's pretty smart IMO.
RE: Hateable  
UConn4523 : 7/18/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14500729 Thegratefulhead said:
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Is the language I object to. We hate far too easily in this country. I think hate should be reserved for despicable people. Baker is just an ass that lacks class.


Same, never understood how easily people can hate a guy that really doesnít do anything wrong.

Mayfield doesnít bother me. Hating him for what he said says more about the fan and less about him.
RE: The attendance argument is just as disingenuous as  
UConn4523 : 7/18/2019 10:12 am : link
In comment 14500763 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Odell acting like the trade came outta no where.

Cleveland metro - 2 million

NY metro - 20 million


Thatís a very limited view. Whatís the difference in ticket prices? Travel time and cost to/from the game. How many other teams are in the market?

Not apples to apples at all. NY is a beast of an area, and frankly I canít stand navigating it to get to a game. Iím not alone.
That's correct..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/18/2019 10:17 am : link
attendance in games isn't driven by the population. If it were, you'd have excess demand in every large city. LA would never have lost teams.

NFL franchises are placed in areas due to demand and expected support of the team.

While this is a collegiate example, Clemson regularly sells out an 81,500 seat stadium. In a town of 10,000 people and 30-45 minutes from a fairly populous city (Greenville).
RE: And if he isnt hateable  
BillKo : 7/18/2019 12:11 pm : link
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that makes him likeable?

Him and OBJ are made for each other. Hopefully failure follows them.


Percentages say both get hurt this year.

They can play footsies with each other on the bench.
Bakers a jerk  
Torrag : 7/18/2019 12:22 pm : link
Very competitive and talented player though. Problem is at his position of leadership his aggressive posture could be a problem if he doesn't learn to reel it in.
RE: Baker is backing OBJ vs the world  
TMS : 7/18/2019 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14501294 GiantsLaw said:
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in order to get in OBJ's good graces. From a chemistry/team building standpoint, it's pretty smart IMO.
. Maybe but OBJ has a lot of Shockey in him. He has to be the man. If he does not get enough pass opportunities he will lash out and sulk or get injured. Think he got all his glory right here in NYC and will implode if it does not happen in Cleveland.
RE: found it  
jamesk479 : 7/19/2019 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14500595 GMAN4LIFE said:
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...."He's here to play in front of fans who actually care, who will actually show up to every game and pack the stadium and love him for who he is."


BM seems like he can be a great QB, but then I lost a lot of respect for him in the way he dissed his fired coach. Shut up Rook! Can you picture Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, or even Patrick Mahomes doing that because they didn't start right away?

So I don't normally defend him. I'd have to see his face and the context, but it is possible this is not anything at all. He is just defaulting to taking about the fans like they do sometimes, maybe. But in this Trump age of doubling down rather than ever apologizing or walking things back - we may never know for sure.

The truth is, and often this applies to an individual psychological perspective, but maybe it can apply to a larger group - if you found something offensive in his words that do not even mention you or your team in any way, then there is something wrong with you - you are projecting your own inadequacies, failures, etc.

But it is easy to make fun of the Browns, despite the greater then half probability that they are better than the Giants right now.
RE: Screw him ...  
jamesk479 : 7/19/2019 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14500892 Manny in CA said:
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He should be celebrating that he has a talent like OBJ on the team. The NY Giants ought to be an incidental footnote



Lol, that is exactly what it sounds like he is doing - celebrating OBJ.

Not mentioning the Giants at all is almost the definition of "incidental footnote". It is certainly lesser than.

Not a big fan of BM - but we can do better than this. This is lame.
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