NFT: Marvel Studios - Phase 4 Movies & Shows

but looking forward to Dr Strange and the Winter Soldier show (Cap 2 was my favorite of the Marvel films).

Overall it’s just too much, I feel like I’ve been beaten over the head with Marvel. Hope everyone enjoys it though.

I’ll watch Blade too. I like the more obscure Marvel stuff way more than the main cast of characters.

All very exciting and with Disney+ officially adding to the canon going to keep us busy.

Ever.

that is until I heard that Natalie Portman was coming back. She did not like playing the character and her chemistry with Chris Helmsworth just didn't work on screen. I assumed a female would inherit Thor's power but I was hoping it would be Valkyrie. She's a badass who was excellent in Ragnarok.

I'm looking forward to Guardians 3 with Thor joining the team.

Fantastic 4 is more important to introduce because they need another brilliant scientist to replace Stark while also assuming a leadership role.

feige plans ahead so well. Love portman back and looking forward to Thor 4 the most maybe. Portman rejoining the cast and Waititi back to direct should make for a great movie.

Im concerned about Black widow flopping, not like flopping like it makes 50 mill, but flopping for a marvel movie. And not for some dumb reason like i dont think a woman can lead an action movie. I just dont know how much people want to see a movie that takes place between a couple other movies and stars a character who just died.

That said im excited for Phase 4 and the disney+ stuff. No marvel fatigue for me (yet...)

In comment 14503097 Italianju said:

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Im concerned about Black widow flopping, not like flopping like it makes 50 mill, but flopping for a marvel movie. And not for some dumb reason like i dont think a woman can lead an action movie. I just dont know how much people want to see a movie that takes place between a couple other movies and stars a character who just died. That said im excited for Phase 4 and the disney+ stuff. No marvel fatigue for me (yet...)

This, i will see Black Widow but I think it will end up being one of the MCU's lowest grossing films because it's about a dead character. Many will not be excited for this reason but of course there will be people criticizing fans for not seeing a female lead movie despite the fact that Captain Marvel did very well at the box office.

I wasn't a fan of the fantastic four after the previous two versions but now that Feige and co. are in charge of the franchise I have high hopes. I just hope they don't make Reed Richards a weak character like they did Ioan Gruffuld's version. Who they select to play the character will be very important because he will likely be a main character in the MCU moving forward.

by the time Blade comes out.

Looking forward to Dr. Strange the most. Natalie Portman (her character) + Female Thor sounds like a terrible combo to base a movie on but I'm sure Taika Waititi will make it fun enough to enjoy. No idea what to expect with the Eternals and Shang-Chi. The latter sounds like a tired concept unless they include his multiplying ability.

with no Iron Man?

I'm a little disappointed and surprised that Black Panther 2 is coming earlier. They reportedly want Black Panther to assume Captain America's role in the MCU so I was expecting his sequel to come shortly after Endgame to establish his new leadership role.

In comment 14503058 UConn4523 said:

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but looking forward to Dr Strange and the Winter Soldier show (Cap 2 was my favorite of the Marvel films). Overall it’s just too much, I feel like I’ve been beaten over the head with Marvel. Hope everyone enjoys it though.

I disagree, they have 2 or 3 movies a year, and they are generally well thought out. I'm a fan.

Love that they are bringing Blade back, still love the first Blade, the sequels sucked.

Too obscure. No one ever cared about them in the comics. Angelina Jolie has been box office poison for a while. Newer director without much experience. Some of these movies are going to under-perform and this seems like the safest bet. Marvel seems like they are just hoping it will be different enough to get a following and get some critical acclaim.

Shang-Chi is an obscure character but Marvel does a ton of business in Asia. So even if the movie isn't that great it will make a ton of money in China with a Chinese super hero. And Western audiences are always open to a good martial arts style action movie. I never really liked Iron Fist or Daredevil so maybe Shang-Chi can be Marvel's martial arts hero going forward.

I have a feeling the Thor movie will be a turkey cause it seems to be more about Natalie Portman's ego. They had to woo her back with making her the lead with the female Thor storyline. I don't think they were going to do that storyline from the comics this soon and a lot of people never liked it in the comics. Portman also doesn't sell tickets and she isn't good with either action or comedy. If Waititi can make an enjoyable movie with her than he is a genius and the new Spielberg.

And it is really about establishing Yelena Belova (Florence Pugh) as the new Black Widow. She is the second Widow in the comics.

So this will be a passing of the torch/origin story.

Much like Hawkeye who will passing it to Kate Bishop.

and the next one will also have a whopper finale (Secret Wars?).

In any case looking forward to see if they can keep the quality high.

In comment 14503119 widmerseyebrow said:

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by the time Blade comes out. Looking forward to Dr. Strange the most. Natalie Portman (her character) + Female Thor sounds like a terrible combo to base a movie on but I'm sure Taika Waititi will make it fun enough to enjoy. No idea what to expect with the Eternals and Shang-Chi. The latter sounds like a tired concept unless they include his multiplying ability.

Waititi saved the Thor films. As to Portman she clearly was phoning it in for the first two films, hopefully working with Waititi will get a better result.

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Too obscure. No one ever cared about them in the comics. Angelina Jolie has been box office poison for a while. Newer director without much experience. Some of these movies are going to under-perform and this seems like the safest bet. Marvel seems like they are just hoping it will be different enough to get a following and get some critical acclaim. Shang-Chi is an obscure character but Marvel does a ton of business in Asia. So even if the movie isn't that great it will make a ton of money in China with a Chinese super hero. And Western audiences are always open to a good martial arts style action movie. I never really liked Iron Fist or Daredevil so maybe Shang-Chi can be Marvel's martial arts hero going forward. I have a feeling the Thor movie will be a turkey cause it seems to be more about Natalie Portman's ego. They had to woo her back with making her the lead with the female Thor storyline. I don't think they were going to do that storyline from the comics this soon and a lot of people never liked it in the comics. Portman also doesn't sell tickets and she isn't good with either action or comedy. If Waititi can make an enjoyable movie with her than he is a genius and the new Spielberg.

I was very disappointed when i found out Jolie was cast for Eternals. She's a good actress but i just don't think she will be a good fit. Richard Madden and Kumail Nanjiani were great choices. I was hoping for Madden to join the MCU for the past couple of years. I was hoping that he would be cast as Reed Richards.

As for the Eternals being a bomb many people, including myself, thought that Guardians of the Galaxy was going to be Marvel's first bomb. I never read any comics growing up so when I heard that Marvel was making a movie about a talking raccoon and a tree that can only say "I am Groot" I thought Marvel was making a huge mistake. Guardians of the Galaxy is still one of my favorite MCU movies.

but Marvel has shown they can make hits out of their lesser characters/back catalog. If they have another multi-year arc with the multiverse, like they did with the Avengers story, then each story helps support the others. People want to see the next episode even if they didn't care about that particular title or those particular characters. It's a pretty good formula.

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I’ll watch Blade too. I like the more obscure Marvel stuff way more than the main cast of characters.

Antman was more than a fun little movie. Looking forward to Blade. Snipes might show up on set and demand the part lol. Read how he acted on Blade Trinity. Just a bit nuts

progresses the MCU. Capital Marvel and Spider-Man: Homecoming were poor achievers of that objective.

If it doesn't add to the bigger picture, I'm not really that interested any longer. I'm shocked the critics feel differently.

In comment 14503429 Knineteen said:

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progresses the MCU. Capital Marvel and Spider-Man: Homecoming were poor achievers of that objective. If it doesn't add to the bigger picture, I'm not really that interested any longer. I'm shocked the critics feel differently.

Really? I think there is a lot of storyline progression in both.

at this point, but its pretty ballsy to come off Endgame (and spider man i guess) with a questionable set of movies. Who knows who will appear in some of these as i cant imagine we dont see say black panther, AntMan, Captain Marvel, etc.. at all until sometime in at least 2022. That said your next 3 movies are Black Widow, Eternals, and Shang Chi. Not exactly the A list. They may of course be great movies, but the margin of error gets a bit smaller when you arent leaning on characters the public has seen and like. I really enjoy the team up stuff (hulk in thor, Iron man in Spider man, etc..) but not sure who would fit in the black widow (already filming so we would prolly know) or Shang Chi. Eternals is already kind of a team up so i doubt we see anyone show up in that.

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Really? I think there is a lot of storyline progression in both.

Like what? Even the mid/end-credits to Far From Home didn't add a lick of progression to the MCU; it only added to the Spider-Man arc.

Captain Marvel was an origins story and only setup Danvers integration with the MCU so she could appear in Endgame.

Black Widow will be a prequel and the two succeeding films will be prequels. It will be 2 years minimum before they can progress the MCU.

In comment 14503911 Knineteen said:

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In comment 14503442 GF1080 said: Quote: Really? I think there is a lot of storyline progression in both. Like what? Even the mid/end-credits to Far From Home didn't add a lick of progression to the MCU; it only added to the Spider-Man arc. Captain Marvel was an origins story and only setup Danvers integration with the MCU so she could appear in Endgame. Black Widow will be a prequel and the two succeeding films will be prequels. It will be 2 years minimum before they can progress the MCU.

I guess we’ll see how it plays out but it looks like over the next 2 years they are utilizing the movies to introduce new characters (Black Widow 2.0, female Thor, Shang-Chi, The Eternals) and further develop their less popular characters that will be playing a bigger role going forward (Dr. Strange, Scarlet Witch).

Most of the story progression looks like it could be coming from the Disney+ shows. Obviously the Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, Captain Marvel will play big roles down the line, but they already have a huge following and don’t require the set up that the characters featured over the next 2 years require before they can play their role in the main arc.

In comment 14503911 Knineteen said:

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In comment 14503442 GF1080 said: Quote: Really? I think there is a lot of storyline progression in both. Like what? Even the mid/end-credits to Far From Home didn't add a lick of progression to the MCU; it only added to the Spider-Man arc. Captain Marvel was an origins story and only setup Danvers integration with the MCU so she could appear in Endgame. Black Widow will be a prequel and the two succeeding films will be prequels. It will be 2 years minimum before they can progress the MCU.

Far From Home continued the Kree-Skrull thread and showed Fury building/working with a new force in space. This plot line was fully originated from Captain Marvel (though somewhat touched on initially in GOTG).

Black Widow is rumored to introduce a new Black Widow assassin (Florence Pugh) to take over for Johansson.

not sure why adding new characters is even bothersome.

The only thing I don't love the sound of, is a female Thor, and as much I love Natalie Portman, that would seem like a terrible fit.

I find it very easy to criticize most things that DC has come out with, and that's all because of how well thought out of a product Marvel has put out. At this point, I'm just enjoying the ride.

and I hated the latest Spider-man. I don't care about diversity in movies as much as I care about the film being entertaining.

Disney knows how to make money and Phase 4 seems to have a clear agenda. If that includes making excellent action films then i'm in. That remains very much to be seen particularly after almost walking out of "Spider-man and the Millenials".

In comment 14504032 RasputinPrime said:

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and I hated the latest Spider-man. I don't care about diversity in movies as much as I care about the film being entertaining. Disney knows how to make money and Phase 4 seems to have a clear agenda. If that includes making excellent action films then i'm in. That remains very much to be seen particularly after almost walking out of "Spider-man and the Millenials".

You almost walked out of the last Spider-Man movie?