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GruningsOnTheHill : 7/22/2019 3:35 pm
In a dour moment when we built our house a few years back, I made the decision to extend the hardwood (oak) flooring into the powder room. Using further poor judgement, I went with a deco-design, traditional 2-piece toilet & sink by a French company called Porcher (that had actually just been sold to American Standard) in the powder room rather than the more common--and practical--Kohler one-piece toilets in our other bathrooms.

You can see where this is going.

Over the past year or so we have noticed a slight buckling of the floorboards behind the aforementioned powder room toilet--I believe the industry term is "cupping." Just this weekend I walked into my daughter's bedroom that backs onto the powder room, and I noticed the wood floors were suddenly cupping like the deck of an old ship. I went into the powder room and discovered one of the two bolts securing the toilet tank to the base of the toilet had somehow loosened to the point of being barely hand-tight, and was leaking at a rate of one drop every 2 or 3 seconds. Uh oh. The rubber grommet inside the tank looked ok and I tightened it with a screwdriver; no more leaks.

Two questions. Will the wood floors return to flat form over time? We did have a little bit of water overflow in another bathroom a few years ago (stone floor in that one) that did cause cupping on the wood floors of an adjoining bedroom, but those reverted back after @4-6 months or so. Can I expect the same in this situation, which might be a little bit more severe?

Second question: Should I have a plumber look at this toilet? I'm not sure what would have caused one of the two bolts to come loose like that, and naturally I don't want it to happen again. Along those lines...should I do now what I should have done in the first place and install a 1-piece toilet in there?

Down the road we may have to consider pulling the wood floor out of the powder room...

Thanks for any/all advice.
I would probably  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/22/2019 3:43 pm : link
pull up the hardwood asap, before anything worse happens, and tile it.
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Eli Wilson : 7/22/2019 3:54 pm : link
At some point the wax ring under that toilet will go and it will start leaking water from underneath. Depending on which direction you may not see that for awhile either. Wood floor in a bathroom is probably a bad idea.
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Payasdaddy : 7/22/2019 4:01 pm : link
I have some xtra from my dowstairs remodel that may go in bathroom section of our master. So far downstairs has been great re: water
My german shepherd is a sloppy water drinker and still all has been good
easy to clean too
A lot of bathrooms have wood floors  
AJ23 : 7/22/2019 4:10 pm : link
This is a toilet issue.
Agree with ripping up the hardwood and going with tile..  
EricJ : 7/22/2019 4:22 pm : link
the worst thing you can do now is try to make a bad problem worse by trying to put a bandaid over it. Bathrooms are small and this job should not cost too much. Maybe the tile guy will take some money off if you remove the toilet and current floor yourself.
Pull it up now, don't wait  
Torrag : 7/22/2019 4:25 pm : link
If you can see surface damage what's going on underneath is likely worse. Including potential water damage to sub floors and such.
If you really like the wood  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/22/2019 4:27 pm : link
look, you could do the wood floor tiles.
Someone may have said it (haven't read)  
Beezer : 7/22/2019 4:39 pm : link
but there are SO many nice looking tile options that look like any kind of wood you'd like.
The problem isn't the tank/bowl design, but rather  
Diver_Down : 7/22/2019 5:48 pm : link
how it is being used. People need to use the toilet to do their business. Not to lean-back and adjust posture while reading/texting/etc. People who spend too long on the crapper inevitably lean-back against the tank. It isn't designed as recliner. Doing so will loosen the tank bolts over time causing leaks.

Now that you have the problem identified, you should tear out the wood and replace with tile/vinyl. You should be able to handle the job yourself over 2 weekends (1 tear out/1 install). Replace the toilet if you want. But if you don't, take the time to replace the wax ring and ensure the toilet is properly sealed.
Replace with tile  
louinma : 7/22/2019 7:37 pm : link
No way should wood, engineered or standard have no business in a bathroom. Only one action, rip it up and replace with tile. Make sure the sub floor was not damaged.

Lou, the woodworker
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oghwga : 7/22/2019 8:14 pm : link
The wood will dry. But wood in a bathroom is gross. Wood absorbs liquid. Bathroom liquids are gross. Did I mention it's gross?

Two piece toilet properly installed will last forever. Run a box fan or a portable fan to move some air over it for a couple of days. That's the best way to dry it out.

I would tile it.
My two cents  
JFIB : 7/23/2019 11:47 am : link
There is a decent chance the cupping will improve as the floor dries out but will likely never be perfect. If the floors were site finished and not a pre-finished material, you can always have them sanded and re-stained. If you go that route, I would put an extra layer of sealer or a traffic coat on them in the powder bath. Lots of people put wood in the powder. I would never do it in a room with a tub or shower but the powder should never be an issue unless you have a leak. That having been said, I would let a plumber come change the ring and have a fresh start.
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FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2019 11:56 am : link
In comment 14504044 Eli Wilson said:
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At some point the wax ring under that toilet will go and it will start leaking water from underneath. Depending on which direction you may not see that for awhile either. Wood floor in a bathroom is probably a bad idea.


This exact thing happened - and we have hardwood floors for the downstairs bathroom. Had to put a new ring on and replace the wood around the toilet. I was pretty sure I'd be able to do the toilet, but the floors were going to be more difficult. Ended up getting a quote for $450 to do both. Looks like brand new - but we will have to be wary of the ring over time.
WOOD FLOORS  
jonnyess : 7/24/2019 6:23 pm : link
will NOT return to flat form over time. It's simple wood physics.

The buckling may lesson somewhat, but you're basically f**ked.

Sorry.
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