ok, not really any other news, but Szapucki is BACK (or close to it).
5 IP 4H 2 BB 9 K's. I didn't hear how his stuff was, but easily his best start since his return and in A+
77 pitches, so he's being stretched, but he's also getting through 5 without a ton of work.
I wonder if Named Later was listening on the radio and can tell us how his stuff sounded.
that's the problem with SSS and defense metrics IMO. eventually players playing out of position are likely to be exposed (obviously with some exception).
I think going into tonight the Mets have 34 unearned runs in 100 games but having trouble finding full team stats on that relative to other teams, but obviously the bigger problem is more routine 'plays not made' as compared to errors.
It's literally impossible to fathom what it would be like to watch a team that plays good defense that actually helps win games vs. lose them.
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until 2021 to contend, it's a question of being patient.
The Mets are not a player away or two players away.
they are more than that.
So, instead of patching shit with mediocre or worse free agents or making stupid trades that give you a false sense of "come and get us" you have an actual plan for adding in key areas, extending key core members to buy out some arb/FA years, etc.
What's your plan for contending in 2020? Play better?
the team already on paper will be worse, and they apparently don't have payroll to spend or they have it but are not likely to spend it.
I think we're on the same page. I don't disagree with anything you said here.
A friend of mine at the Dodgers left me a belly laugh voicemail on this .. its true
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until 2021 to contend, it's a question of being patient.
The Mets are not a player away or two players away.
they are more than that.
So, instead of patching shit with mediocre or worse free agents or making stupid trades that give you a false sense of "come and get us" you have an actual plan for adding in key areas, extending key core members to buy out some arb/FA years, etc.
What's your plan for contending in 2020? Play better?
the team already on paper will be worse, and they apparently don't have payroll to spend or they have it but are not likely to spend it.
I think we're on the same page. I don't disagree with anything you said here.
A friend of mine at the Dodgers left me a belly laugh voicemail on this .. its true
Sorry that was regarding Daz was available ... at a huge price though
I read the Nationals are interested in Ramos, but the Mets ownership would not likely allow a trade.
Yeah, that shit is really dispiriting. I can see placiong a premium on trading w/Yankees and asking for a little more, but if they've got the best offer, fire away.
And I'd drive Ramos to DC.
2015 - 83 wins, disappointing year, hired Dusty
2016-2017 - averaged 96 wins under Dusty
2018 - fired Dusty went right back to disappointing with 82 wins
2019 - started the year 12 games under .500, mostly because of their BP, have now turned things around bc the BP started performing better but will most likely end up with ~80-85ish wins.
Spend money in the bullpen, hire a competent and experienced manager (maybe even Dusty), and make a few smart tweaks to rebalance the roster + improve defense up the middle.
I really don't understand why they wouldn't at least try doing that before deciding to blow things up and letting BVW make more big, franchise altering trades.
Kaye
Wolf
Allen
Baty
Newton
Mauricio
Woods Richardson
Kilome
Gimenez
Vientos
The Mets will have one of the better farms in the league
Smith. Alonso Mcneil. Conforto Rosario Nimmo
Degrom Syndergaard.
This is a solid core to move forward
Just change the fucking manager
No stealing
No bunting
No hit and run
No imagination and manufacturing runs
And awfulmanagement of the bullpen
Baseball America ranks the Mets system... 26th! GOod lord.
but there are some twitter rumblings (not sure how reliably sourced) that Syndergaard was overheard yelling at his agent on the phone to "get me out of here".
but there are some twitter rumblings (not sure how reliably sourced) that Syndergaard was overheard yelling at his agent on the phone to "get me out of here".
full disclosure - the account that I'm seeing this on is a Yankees-related twitter persona, but one that has a pretty decent track record.
Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO
24m24 minutes ago
OPS this year:
Zack Wheeler .729
Steven Matz .613
Jacob deGrom .557
Juan Lagares .508
Noah Syndergaard .364
I hope he has a crazy good 2nd half, but really what's the point?
7IP 4H 0R 1BB 9K's
because the fans would accept nothing less.
Not sure why Diaz was even in the game.
Looked like it hit him in the lower leg/foot. Walked off under his own power.
A DL stint might be good for him, mutes the trade talk and saves him, let's him get his head straight for the stretch to provide maybe something for him to build off going forward.
Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO
Mets 17-year-old catcher prospect Francisco Alvarez has played 18 professional games (7 with GCL and 11 with Kingsport):
.397/.500/.667, 5 2B, 4 HR, 15 RBI, 9 BB/16 K
8:30 AM - 25 Jul 2019
Mathew Brownstein
@MBrownstein89
4h4 hours ago
Mathew Brownstein Retweeted Michael Mayer
Alvarez has 10 multi-hit performances in 18 games this season. #Mets
Good Fundies Brian
@OmarMinayaFan
41m41 minutes ago
A little more perspective on JD Davis, who the Mets traded minor leaguers to acquire while letting Wilmer Flores walk.
Wilmer posted a higher bWAR than Davis has now in 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2018. If you prefer fWAR, it's 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
That logic would say Cano trade makes sense because hes out
Reduced Kelenic every year the last ten years lol
That logic would say Cano trade makes sense because hes out
Reduced Kelenic every year the last ten years lol
No, you'd in theory compare Cano with another 2B the Mets have who Cano replaced (McNeil).
I think he was just showing a utility guy vs utility guy - though Davis can play OF, but is not a defensive plus guy.
but like I said not sure the comp makes sense anyway.
wallace matthews
@OysterBayBomber
Yankees-Mets trade embargo is why it's unlikely Zack Wheeler heads to the Bronx
Who here would trade JD Davis for Flores?
Real comp, JD is the better, younger, cheaper, more versatile player with more upside. I truly dont get what comparing fractions of WAR from previous years, I just dont get what point that proves. Literally, after todays game JD May now have happgained that fraction of WAR to push him ahead of previous years Flores. Such a stupid tweet.
Sorry for the anger lol
wallace matthews
@OysterBayBomber
Yankees-Mets trade embargo is why it's unlikely Zack Wheeler heads to the Bronx
Expect a lot of stupid over the next few days. Its all out clicks, retweets and follows. Getting worse and worse each year
I think cheaper was the most attractive quality you included when he's compared with Flores. The rest is probably, unfortunately, noise.
Who here would trade JD Davis for Flores?
Real comp, JD is the better, younger, cheaper, more versatile player with more upside. I truly dont get what comparing fractions of WAR from previous years, I just dont get what point that proves. Literally, after todays game JD May now have happgained that fraction of WAR to push him ahead of previous years Flores. Such a stupid tweet.
Sorry for the anger lol
Shecky,
I love you but that's not a fair comparison. Davis or Flores... AND Adolph, Manea and Santana would be the decision. The Mets had Flores and let him go. They paid the price with those 3 to add Davis. Maybe none of them end up being anything but they also would have represented pieces you could improve the team.
Mathew Brownstein
@MBrownstein89
4m4 minutes ago
Jacob deGrom through his first 21 starts in 2018:
164 strikeouts, 32 walks
Jacob deGrom through his first 21 starts in 2019:
163 strikeouts, 32 walks
#Mets @Mets @MetsMerized #LGM
Santana was a legit secondary prospect, but non are likely to ever actually make it fringe, replaceable assets. At least IMO.
Again, it comparing Davis this year to Flores past seasons like the tweet did. But simply asking, who would trade Davis today for Flores? It was one of the few and rare non backwards moves made so much to criticize, yet this was half ass backwards critiqued
Ken Rosenthal
Verified account @Ken_Rosenthal
An option #Mets are exploring, per sources: Trading Syndergaard and signing Wheeler to an extension. NYM would benefit from return for Syndergaard while keeping Wheeler, a quality starting pitcher who otherwise would depart in free agency. @TheAthleticMLB
3:36 PM - 25 Jul 2019
JD Davis 2019 WAR ~1
500k
Wilmer, Santana, Manea and Adolph 2019 WAR ~ 0
4mm
🤚
Matt Ehalt
Verified account @MattEhalt
Mets person on Yanks: "Wed be crazy to put ourselves in the position of having them win with one of our guys."
Yanks person on Mets: "Its their issue. Its not our issue.
My main issue with Davis is that he's not playing every day. After the deadline, we need to see what we have in him. This is the EXACT same crap we did with Wilmer Flores. We never really gave him a consistent chance. Let's not make the same mistake with Davis.
Anyone else up for it?
Matt Ehalt
Verified account @MattEhalt
Mets person on Yanks: "Wed be crazy to put ourselves in the position of having them win with one of our guys."
Yanks person on Mets: "Its their issue. Its not our issue.
that this crosses their mind and all in running their business is a sign of a real problem in the high levels of the org. They need to stop listening to WFAN and realize a) the hosts, outside of Roberts, dont have a god damned clue about baseball and b) people who have the time or inclination to call into WFAN represent about 2% of actual fans, and it's far from the most intelligent 2%.
Anyone else up for it?
would be a really great haul.
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for Lux, Urias, Verdugo & Dustin May.
Anyone else up for it?
would be a really great haul.
Yep, would be a monster haul. Would also give the Dodgers 3 guys who could really help them in the playoffs with multiple years of team control.
@Buster_ESPN
Rival evaluators say they believe the Mets are fully intent on dealing Noah Syndergaard before the trade deadline. "It's beyond listening," said one. "They want to move him."
@Buster_ESPN
Rival evaluators say they believe the Mets are fully intent on dealing Noah Syndergaard before the trade deadline. "It's beyond listening," said one. "They want to move him."
It would be a very Mets move. And based on BVWs track record with trades, we are screwed. Theres no hope for this team.
My main issue with Davis is that he's not playing every day. After the deadline, we need to see what we have in him. This is the EXACT same crap we did with Wilmer Flores. We never really gave him a consistent chance. Let's not make the same mistake with Davis.
I don't think you kill BVW for the Davis trade and I don't think anyone is, but it's not a trade I think should have been made.
What actual role on this team does JD Davis serve?
He's 26 years old and primarily a 1B/3B and not good defensively.
He had 5 career OF games in the majors before this season and even in the minors just 25 career OF starts.
So what's his role? bench bat?
I'd roll the dice with secondary prospects panning out before trading them for a guy in this role - especially one who provides negative D.
Jarrett Seidler
@jaseidler
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if Martino is floating Garca and Florian and the Mets dont beat that (they very well might not) this is gonna be a bloodbath
Agree.
However and I get killed for this opinion by some people, I don't feel like Syndergaard has reached his full potential.
I know people hate hearing it, but he's not a smart pitcher a lot of the time still. Hard to explain what i mean, but he doesn't set up batters like Clemens would and I think his stuff isn't THAT far from Clemens. Other than the split-finger, which Syndergaard's slider acts a lot like, they are not that different.
just Syndergaard pitches like he doesn't trust his stuff or only trusts his fast ball.
I wish he'd get someone to unlock what I think is still left unlocked.
Or he is what he is, which is a top 10% pitcher, and that's fine, but I think he has ace potential.
Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO
The Mets have released left-handed pitcher PJ Conlon.
5:40 PM - 25 Jul 2019
@martinonyc
Yankees would likely trade Garcia and florial for Syndergaard but that wouldnt be enough for Mets
5:09 PM Jul 25, 2019Twitter for iPhone
He's 21+ in A+ and not doing anything special IMO.
I would trade with the Yankees, I'd trade with anyone, but BVW or the Mets should not be shit on for refusing to deal Syndergaard with two+ years of control for that package.