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Jones preseason playing time discussion

CardinalX : 7/23/2019 12:43 am
I'm old, so my memory isn't great. But it didnt seem like Saquon got a lot of playing time last year in preseason.

If this was the Coughlin era, I might have been worried. Rookie = low meaningful time on the field and redshirt like rookie season. Bonehead mistake or God forbid fumble is almost a guarantee banishment to ghost town.

But it seemed reasonable. Barkely didnt just flash when he was on the field, he wowed! Giants knew what they had, Saquon reaffirmed that in the few s appx he got. And why risk the Future in meaningless preseason playing time. Plus, he did get a little 'jump up and bite me in the hammy' so understood.

All a long preface to 2019. I think the Giants are leaning towards carrying 2 QBs and Eli doesnt need to play more than 3 or 4 total quarters. So Daniel sees a damn ton of snaps this preseason??? I'm getting giddy with anticipation. I love Eli and want to see 1 tremendous year out of him... but then I want Eli Jr to take over. And DOMINATE!! A mobile quarterback??? What will we think when he busts a 25 yard scamper up the sideline??? Will it be the same excitement we all felt on Saquons first carry? That 39 yard juke and jive up the sideline leaving those bewildered Cleveland players in his wake?

Or remember Shockey's debut? Trucking defenders and making us think. Did we finally draft the second coming of Mark Bavaro???

So will what can we expect from Mr. Jones this summer?
jones had better be drafted for his arm and head than his feet or  
plato : 7/23/2019 2:01 am : link
giants are screwed big time for a long time.
My hope is for him to convert the  
BSIMatt : 7/23/2019 2:47 am : link
“He’s in shorts, otas mean nothing” statements into “teams don’t gameplan, preseason means nothing” statements. If he does that it’s a great indicator he’s playing really well.
Under promise, over deliver  
George from PA : 7/23/2019 5:55 am : link
What we love about Eli was the way he carried himself, while owning the 4th qtr.....we have not seen it in sometime.

Hopefully, that it comes back in deuces
Didn’t Barkley get dinged up right before first  
Jimmy Googs : 7/23/2019 7:04 am : link
preseason game? And that is why he didn’t play game 1 and maybe game 2(don’t recall).
Nevermind  
Jimmy Googs : 7/23/2019 7:06 am : link
Looks like he had carries in game 1
Yeah, Barkley hurt his leg  
robbieballs2003 : 7/23/2019 7:06 am : link
Was it his knee or hip? Either way, he didn't play because of injury.
He better get the largest share  
ron mexico : 7/23/2019 7:40 am : link
Of pre season snaps, and some decent times with the ines to boot.
RE: Nevermind  
robbieballs2003 : 7/23/2019 7:47 am : link
In comment 14504500 Jimmy Googs said:
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Looks like he had carries in game 1


Of course he played game 1. You don't remember his first touch went for like 40 yards? Haha. It was against Cleveland if I am not mistaken. To my memory, he hurt his knee (?) on a pass down the left sideline in practice and they held him out of most things after that.

This part is not directed at you:
And to talk about preseason, guys need to play especially rookies. This whole "I'm scared of injury" mentality is ridiculous. Jones needs reps on the field against unscripted defenses and new faces. You can't play scared.
Simple, imo:  
Big Blue '56 : 7/23/2019 7:50 am : link
Eli will get enough snaps to prepare for the season. Jones will get the rest, save for a few snaps or so for Tanney
Eli will get roughly the same # of snaps as last year  
giants#1 : 7/23/2019 8:10 am : link
Game 1: 10-15 snaps (1-2 series)
Game 2: Possibly sits
Game 3: 35-40 snaps (plays at least half)
Game 4: Sits

As for the others, there's no backup "competition" this year so it may vary relative to 2018, but I expect all 4 to get time.

Jones
Game 1: 1.5-2 quarters (likely all with the "2s")
Game 2: Possible start, plays half (splits time with 1s and 2s)
Game 3: Finishes the game after Eli leaves (with the 2s)
Game 4: 1-2 quarters (with 2s); Likely less if 3rd QB still up in the air

Tanney/Lauletta
Give or take a quarter/game for each of them. Likely one game where they each sit.
RE: Simple, imo:  
Jim in Tampa : 7/23/2019 8:12 am : link
In comment 14504510 Big Blue '56 said:
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Eli will get enough snaps to prepare for the season. Jones will get the rest, save for a few snaps or so for Tanney

I think it's likely that both Tanney and Lauletta get a significant number of snaps to determine 3rd string QB. And if Jones shows that he's ready for the backup role it may eliminate the need to keep Tanney.
RE: RE: Simple, imo:  
Big Blue '56 : 7/23/2019 8:23 am : link
In comment 14504519 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 14504510 Big Blue '56 said:


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Eli will get enough snaps to prepare for the season. Jones will get the rest, save for a few snaps or so for Tanney


I think it's likely that both Tanney and Lauletta get a significant number of snaps to determine 3rd string QB. And if Jones shows that he's ready for the backup role it may eliminate the need to keep Tanney.


Forgot about KL..Lol..Yes, agree..Thanks Jim..I still, as an armchair fan, would prefer they go with just 2 QBs once the season starts
RE: RE: Nevermind  
Jimmy Googs : 7/23/2019 8:33 am : link
In comment 14504509 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14504500 Jimmy Googs said:


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Looks like he had carries in game 1



Of course he played game 1. You don't remember his first touch went for like 40 yards? Haha. It was against Cleveland if I am not mistaken. To my memory, he hurt his knee (?) on a pass down the left sideline in practice and they held him out of most things after that.

This part is not directed at you:
And to talk about preseason, guys need to play especially rookies. This whole "I'm scared of injury" mentality is ridiculous. Jones needs reps on the field against unscripted defenses and new faces. You can't play scared.


I think I missed the first preseason game but yes should hav3 remembered the big first carry highlight.

And rookies need plenty of preseason. You know it has to settle them down a good bit for when they really have to play...
for those who want to see Barkley's first carry in preseason  
Gordo : 7/23/2019 9:12 am : link
because why not?
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Jones better see the most of any QB  
Rudy5757 : 7/23/2019 9:18 am : link
If I'm Shurmur and my career is tied to DJ I get him as much playing time as possible. QBs need playing time, its more important than other positions. At this point I have to believe that the Giants will carry 2 QBs so it makes sense to play DJ as much as possible. Tanney and Lauletta can battle in practice, the coaches can see what they have in them there.

No one is trading for either Tanney or Lauletta so show casing them in preseason is really not going to help. Combined they should get maybe 4 quarters in preseason. Eli should get 2 maybe 3 and DJ should 2 1/2 games to himself. Get him in the 2 minute drill and some key situations.

If we carry 3 QBs going into the season I will be very disappointed. For the 1st time in a long time we have talent beyond the #1s, I think we are stacked with DBs and could possibly get some picks for the some at the end of training camp. We need roster spots and no one is picking up Tanney or Lauletta for their roster. Have them stay in shape as a just in case.
RE: My hope is for him to convert the  
joeinpa : 7/23/2019 10:11 am : link
In comment 14504482 BSIMatt said:
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“He’s in shorts, otas mean nothing” statements into “teams don’t gameplan, preseason means nothing” statements. If he does that it’s a great indicator he’s playing really well.


Ha ha, that s great
He needs every snap  
Carl in CT : 7/23/2019 11:21 am : link
That Eli doesn’t play. If there is an injury to Eli we are not going to use the 3rd sting QB anyway. We would use Jones and someone who is not on the roster as of yet.
Any snap Tanny plays  
NYG007 : 7/23/2019 12:21 pm : link
is simply bad coaching.
I think you will see  
cjac : 7/23/2019 12:39 pm : link
at least one pre season game where DJ gets the start and plays with the first stringers
RE: I think you will see  
jestersdead : 7/23/2019 12:42 pm : link
In comment 14504831 cjac said:
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at least one pre season game where DJ gets the start and plays with the first stringers


Didn't they do that last year in game 2 with Webb and Tanney?

Game 1: 3rd & 4th Q
Game 2: 2nd & 3rd
Game 3: half of 3rd & 4th
Game 4: 1st & 2nd
Barkley got dinged either in the 1st preseason game or the 2nd  
PatersonPlank : 7/23/2019 12:46 pm : link
Either way, that was why they were careful with him. They knew he was going to the starter once the season started. Jones is a different situation. He is not the starter, so they will be more careful with Eli frankly than Jones. I expect Jones to see a lot of playing time
RE: Any snap Tanny plays  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/23/2019 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14504806 NYG007 said:
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is simply bad coaching.

Atrocious. Even in practice. An ironman qb, a high 1st rounder and 4th rounder.
I think we will see the same thing we saw last year  
Jay on the Island : 7/24/2019 12:52 pm : link
Eli will sit the first and fourth games. Jones will start both games and could very likely play the entire fourth preseason game. Eli will play little more than a quarter in the second game and then play the first half in the third game.
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