Nothing really new here, and not sure I should even give this clicks but it's a slow news morning and figured the segment was worth a post.
I actually think Kellerman is better than most of the ESPN talking head trash-pile (not saying much), and I know he's a Giants fan. I think a lot of Giants fan share the sentiment even if they wouldn't put it so bluntly or state it so publicly. What say you BBI?
Kellerman: Eli Stinks - (
New Window )
Its the decade long argument that Eli had had it so much harder than every other QB. His OCs all suck, his WRs all run the wrong routes and drop the ball. He never has a clean pocket
You haven’t been here a decade and know all this 🤔🤔🤔
By the way, checkout mbavaros showing that Eli’s supporting cast (offense, defense, and special teams) have been below average or near the bottom of the league for the entire part of his career.
I know you guys will dismiss it, but hey - it’s what you guys do.
In case you forget, there was a security breach that made everyone re register
In case you forget, there was a security breach that made everyone re register
It wasn’t in 2015if memory serves me correct.
Here’s the link for those who didn’t see.
Surrounding talent - ( New Window )
I just posted it. It’s from 2002-2018. Giants QB play was top 5 in the NFL. Check it out by position. Look at the defense and special teams. Putrid.
Just stop. Please. Turn the bat signal off for a week. Go outside. Enjoy life.
May want to take your own advice here dep.
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But it was a long time ago
In case you forget, there was a security breach that made everyone re register
It wasn’t in 2015if memory serves me correct.
You are wrong, I retegistered after the breach.
I used to post under blue baller or some equally stupid name.
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Just stop. Please. Turn the bat signal off for a week. Go outside. Enjoy life.
May want to take your own advice here dep.
No thanks.
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Last year, I wonder how many would still say he stink.
If you remember Matt SGS’s post... Eli played in some of the worst weather games last year as well.
Nobody takes into these factors which is pretty poor IMao.
My original post. But leave it to Santa to take it to a place of things I never said. Good work!!!
So in this particular post you didn't lament our shitty fans, but you did say it's pretty poor that no Eli detractor is factoring in how 5-6 more TDs would reflect differently... and I'm taking this to a place you never said?
To me, we should have had a lot more passing TDs last year. And like I said due to Eli missing guys, getting tackled inside the 5, dropped TDs, poor play calling, etc... Eli EASILY could have had the stat line I brought up.
I know that’s absurd because it probably paints a light that Eli’s season isn’t nearly as bad people thought. I know... absurd.
To me, we should have had a lot more passing TDs last year. And like I said due to Eli missing guys, getting tackled inside the 5, dropped TDs, poor play calling, etc... Eli EASILY could have had the stat line I brought up.
I know that’s absurd because it probably paints a light that Eli’s season isn’t nearly as bad people thought. I know... absurd.
It easily goes both ways though. What about plays when receivers made great plays to score. A dump off to Barkley where he jukes the world and leaps into the end zone. The fact remains he just had 21 tds
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I was showing how a statistical line can alter people’s views... not just our shitty fans on BBI, but also people across the nation(take a loo at what the OP brought up... thanks).
To me, we should have had a lot more passing TDs last year. And like I said due to Eli missing guys, getting tackled inside the 5, dropped TDs, poor play calling, etc... Eli EASILY could have had the stat line I brought up.
I know that’s absurd because it probably paints a light that Eli’s season isn’t nearly as bad people thought. I know... absurd.
It easily goes both ways though. What about plays when receivers made great plays to score. A dump off to Barkley where he jukes the world and leaps into the end zone. The fact remains he just had 21 tds
And my point was he should have had more and saying he could have had 5 more is very reasonable if not probable.
Many BBI’ers, fans and media pundits say Eli sucked last year with 21/11 and 4300 yards....
If he had thrown for 26/11 and 4300 yards like Brady, Rodgers, Watson, Mayfield - would be still stink?
Does Matt Stanford stink? Dalton? They had nearly identical stats as Eli. Nary a word on them. Guess it’s just an oversight and they aren’t the reason why their teams have stunk too.
It easily goes both ways though. What about plays when receivers made great plays to score. A dump off to Barkley where he jukes the world and leaps into the end zone. The fact remains he just had 21 tds
Well, obviously you don't understand how this works. While your point is completely valid and reasonable in a normal world, it doesn't play with the Eli-Never-Gets-A-Break Crowd.
Barkley making that play is merely what Barkley owes Eli. Eli gave Barkley the opportunity to score. And when the other supporting cast doesn't act in kind, well, they have failed to show Eli in his best light.
Therefore, we have to go back through the year and adjust all of those plays where Eli didn't get the best outcome. It's called EAQBR - Eli Adjusted Quarterback Rating. And it's clear - above - who those adjusters are...
bw in dc : 7/11/2019 6:13 pm : link : reply
and that stadium is a real pain in the ass to get to.
I think this DC sport fan is losing interest and gravitating more to the Caps and the Nats. Two significantly better run organizations...
What's that???
Many BBI’ers, fans and media pundits say Eli sucked last year with 21/11 and 4300 yards....
If he had thrown for 26/11 and 4300 yards like Brady, Rodgers, Watson, Mayfield - would be still stink?
Does Matt Stanford stink? Dalton? They had nearly identical stats as Eli. Nary a word on them. Guess it’s just an oversight and they aren’t the reason why their teams have stunk too.
dalton only played 11 games and no one is singing his praises
As for matt stafford
https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Sports-Team/Matthew-Stafford-Sucks-128823890511121/
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/columnists/bob-wojnowski/2018/11/22/wojo-matthew-stafford-tosses-away-whats-left-detroit-lions-season/2086317002/
http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/sucks.aspx/Matthew_Stafford
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Poor product...
bw in dc : 7/11/2019 6:13 pm : link : reply
and that stadium is a real pain in the ass to get to.
I think this DC sport fan is losing interest and gravitating more to the Caps and the Nats. Two significantly better run organizations...
What's that???
Should be "the" instead of "this"...
And no offense, I’m not going to a Facebook page for a source of information haha
I think he’s a DC sports fan when the Giants are winning cause you sure as shit didn’t see him here when we were winning. Only when we are losing ...🤔🤔🤔
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I was showing how a statistical line can alter people’s views... not just our shitty fans on BBI, but also people across the nation(take a loo at what the OP brought up... thanks).
To me, we should have had a lot more passing TDs last year. And like I said due to Eli missing guys, getting tackled inside the 5, dropped TDs, poor play calling, etc... Eli EASILY could have had the stat line I brought up.
I know that’s absurd because it probably paints a light that Eli’s season isn’t nearly as bad people thought. I know... absurd.
It easily goes both ways though. What about plays when receivers made great plays to score. A dump off to Barkley where he jukes the world and leaps into the end zone. The fact remains he just had 21 tds
And my point was he should have had more and saying he could have had 5 more is very reasonable if not probable.
If OBJ had that extra gear we would have been close.
Plus less of the constant basic stunts getting to Eli in 1.5 secs.
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Poor product...
bw in dc : 7/11/2019 6:13 pm : link : reply
and that stadium is a real pain in the ass to get to.
I think this DC sport fan is losing interest and gravitating more to the Caps and the Nats. Two significantly better run organizations...
What's that???
Should be "the" instead of "this"...
I'm pretty sure it was Freudian.
And no offense, I’m not going to a Facebook page for a source of information haha
I though the point is Eli is being treated unfairly in the media and no one else is?
There are hot takes all around the league. Eli isn't alone.
Should be "the" instead of "this"...
I'm pretty sure it was Freudian.
That mistake is going to be costly... ;)
It is a head scratcher.
This quote by christian really encapsulates the situation in a nutshell
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I think most objective fans would agree the Giants have been largely bad the last 7 years and Eli Manning has been inconsistent the last 7 years
I don't get the Media's repeated jabs at Manning. I don't get our own fans being seemingly gleeful to crap on him in nearly every thread about the guy, but what is said above really should diffuse these arguments, because if you don't truly believe that - then there is some delusion going on.
For sure agreed. NOW I am rooting especially BIG time for Eli to kill it this year so we can resurrect this thread just so Dep can make everybody ganging up on him here eat a shit sandwich... lol
Oh yeah And I hope Daniel Jones kicks ass in 2020
Well, I didn't mention names, but since you replied first (and ever so quickly)... guilty! lol
The shit sandwich will be the same Giant football covered with shit I have mentioned in this thread that Eli shoves down all Naysayers throats this year... lol. And man do I hope he does it.
And I will feel really stupid now if he doesn't lol
Also, the almanac is predicting slightly lower than average rainfall around northern New Jersey for this upcoming fall.
Pro Bowl here he comes...
It’s not even to the point where we are discussing if he’s done or still has it. It hasn’t gotten to the point where you can’t say anything positive about him without the bat signal going up and the band coming into play.
Also, the almanac is predicting slightly lower than average rainfall around northern New Jersey for this upcoming fall.
Pro Bowl here he comes...
The man knows more than Hall of gamers.
Can you show how the other QBs did during the rain? I already did but I’m sure you ignored it cause it would make you look stupid again.
And I will feel really stupid now if he doesn't lol
Not necessarily! The precedent is being established.
Apparently, all you'll have to do if Eli plays average and puts up average statistics is say, "Well, would you still be saying he's average if his stats were 25% better, you shitty fan?"
Just would like to get my knife and fork ready (only a creetin eats a shit sandwich with his hands)
You guys need to understand there is a difference between disagreeing a posters shitty take on something and insulting the player he is defending.
Supporting Eli isn't a get out of jail free card for being a shity poster.
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hopefully Eli doesn't eat too many this summer so he can play better in 2019 at this new lower weight.
Also, the almanac is predicting slightly lower than average rainfall around northern New Jersey for this upcoming fall.
Pro Bowl here he comes...
The man knows more than Hall of gamers.
Can you show how the other QBs did during the rain? I already did but I’m sure you ignored it cause it would make you look stupid again.
Who were the QBs again? Chase Daniels, Marcus Marriota and ???
That's quite a formidable group.
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And I will feel really stupid now if he doesn't lol
Not necessarily! The precedent is being established.
Apparently, all you'll have to do if Eli plays average and puts up average statistics is say, "Well, would you still be saying he's average if his stats were 25% better, you shitty fan?"
Or continue to say stupid shit all the time and have no idea what you’re talking about and he could be like you!
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hopefully Eli doesn't eat too many this summer so he can play better in 2019 at this new lower weight.
Also, the almanac is predicting slightly lower than average rainfall around northern New Jersey for this upcoming fall.
Pro Bowl here he comes...
The man knows more than Hall of gamers.
Can you show how the other QBs did during the rain? I already did but I’m sure you ignored it cause it would make you look stupid again.
Who were the QBs again? Chase Daniels, Marcus Marriota and ???
That's quite a formidable group.
So you’re saying they didn’t play well and their stats were affected by the rain. Thanks for proving my point.
You ask when you shit on eli- well here example number 1,237,456
You are honestly delusional.
Delusion is your forte.
Unless you are actually Eli Manning that is
He doesn't deserve that
I learned that throwing the football in a downpour is the same as throwing it in normal weather... people who never played the sport on BBI told me so...