The deadline is 4:00 pm Wednesday.
Minor League baseball has just released its updated Top 30 prospects for each team, with changes based on 1st half minor league performance and the recent draft and international signings.
For the Yankees, the list remains filled with right handed starting pitching. This updated list shows 16 of the Yankees Top 30 are right handed pitchers.
On the trade front, is there any starter out there that would be an unquestionable playoff starter in October?
Should the preference be adding a very high level reliever to an already strong bullpen?
What trade chips are off limits?
Clint Frazier?
Miguel Andujar?
Deivi Garcia?
Anthony Seigler?
Estevan Florial?
What,if any, contributions can the Yankees expect this season from currently injured pitchers:
Luis Severino
Dellin Betances
Jordan Montgomery
Ben Heller
Jonathan Loaisiga
CC Sabathia
With about 55 hours to go before the deadline, what should happen?
@lindseyadler
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Aaron Boone: "Sevy's getting close to being on a mound."
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no more half measures.
This is what I mean.
Brian Cashman can't just make someone appear out of thin air at a reasonable price.
Who is this ace you want?
Exactly. What ace is available? Every available guy is either not really available or has warts. The Mets have guys who might be worth it, but no way they risk losing a trade to the Yanks
And every seller starts the conversation with Gleyber Torres...and why wouldn’t they, it’s a sellers market
We all want our version of Verlander to magically appear...but sometimes the best deal is the one you don’t do
@lindseyadler
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Aaron Boone: "Sevy's getting close to being on a mound."
He won't be in a position to go very deep into games, though.
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Lindsey Adler
@lindseyadler
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Aaron Boone: "Sevy's getting close to being on a mound."
He won't be in a position to go very deep into games, though.
Either are our current crop of starters. Although for a different reason :).
Just saw this. Surprised they wouldn't deal Deivi for Bauer.
Jon Heyman
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Everyone wants top pitching prospect Deivi García in talks with the Yankees. Reality: Only available in the 1 out of 1,000 chance the Mets consent to trade Syndergaard to them. Not available for lesser than Noah.
The Wilpons didn't like the sting of watching Gooden, Strawberry, and Cone win titles with the Yankees. Even the Robin Ventura for David Justice deal, which seemed like a typical "wash" deal ended up with Ventura turning back into an All Star. Not surprised they will freeze the Yankees out.
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Lindsey Adler
@lindseyadler
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Aaron Boone: "Sevy's getting close to being on a mound."
He won't be in a position to go very deep into games, though.
I thought Boone said he be coming in from the pen. They could open with Green, then bring in Sevy instead of Nestor.
If he can't get his pitch count up by the beginning to middle of September, then there is something wrong.
Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
Have spoken to multiple execs who say the believe it is now much more likely than not that #Indians trade Bauer
How long before another insider tweets that it's unlikely the Indians move Bauer? Feels like a seesaw that's been going up and down for weeks.
Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
Have spoken to multiple execs who say the believe it is now much more likely than not that #Indians trade Bauer
How long before another insider tweets that it's unlikely the Indians move Bauer? Feels like a seesaw that's been
going up and down for weeks.
If it's to Houston, I don't see how they could lose.
@Ken_Rosenthal
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#Reds among teams talking to #Indians about Trevor Bauer, sources tell The Athletic. Outfielder Taylor Trammell, one of CIN’s top prospects, among names under discussion. Trammell has regressed this season, batting .236 with a .688 OPS at Double A.
@TheAthleticMLB
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@Ken_Rosenthal
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#Reds among teams talking to #Indians about Trevor Bauer, sources tell The Athletic. Outfielder Taylor Trammell, one of CIN’s top prospects, among names under discussion. Trammell has regressed this season, batting .236 with a .688 OPS at Double A.
@TheAthleticMLB
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The Reds? Wtf?
Matt Ehalt
@MattEhalt
--Mets are not willing to do a deal centered around Clint Frazier or Miguel Andujar from the Yanks.
Matt Ehalt
@MattEhalt
--Mets are not willing to do a deal centered around Clint Frazier or Miguel Andujar from the Yanks.
It feels like they're less willing to deal with NYY than teams actually in their own division.
Sad.
@JonHeyman
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Yankees are still in touch on Bauer and MadBum. They are obviously motivated to land an ace. The Astros already have 2 aces (Verlander and Cole), and are thought to be in mix as well for the top starters.
It's been said that NYY would include Garcia in a deal for Syndergaard. He's the one guy they'd be willing to move Deivi for.
It's not really about Frazier/Andujar - there's just nothing to defend. An unnamed exec basically came out and said that they can't stomach the idea of one of their guys coming here and winning a WS.
If you ask me, that's a pretty crappy way to run a franchise and it's obvious they don't want to help the Yankees even if it means improving their own outlook.
Take the best return regardless of what team it comes from.
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why would they want Andujar and they kind of don’t need Frazier. Certainly not for Noah.
It's been said that NYY would include Garcia in a deal for Syndergaard. He's the one guy they'd be willing to move Deivi for.
It's not really about Frazier/Andujar - there's just nothing to defend. An unnamed exec basically came out and said that they can't stomach the idea of one of their guys coming here and winning a WS.
If you ask me, that's a pretty crappy way to run a franchise and it's obvious they don't want to help the Yankees even if it means improving their own outlook.
Right, I’m sure the Yankees would be willing and fair trade partners with the Red Sox as long as it “helped the team”.
Never mind that Frazier/Andujar don’t fit with what the Mets need.
Never mind that I’m sure there are many teams across MLB that prefer not to trade with cross town or divisional rivals.
Except the Yanks. They are totally fine with it.
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why would they want Andujar and they kind of don’t need Frazier. Certainly not for Noah.
It's been said that NYY would include Garcia in a deal for Syndergaard. He's the one guy they'd be willing to move Deivi for.
It's not really about Frazier/Andujar - there's just nothing to defend. An unnamed exec basically came out and said that they can't stomach the idea of one of their guys coming here and winning a WS.
If you ask me, that's a pretty crappy way to run a franchise and it's obvious they don't want to help the Yankees even if it means improving their own outlook.
Right, I’m sure the Yankees would be willing and fair trade partners with the Red Sox as long as it “helped the team”.
Never mind that Frazier/Andujar don’t fit with what the Mets need.
Never mind that I’m sure there are many teams across MLB that prefer not to trade with cross town or divisional rivals.
Except the Yanks. They are totally fine with it.
Why is the yankees making a deal with boston the same as them dealing with the mets?
They are in the same division. The mets and yankees aren't in the same league.
I better analogy to the yankees trading with boston is the mets trading with the phillies and braves. They seem to have no problem doing that.
If the Mets offered the Yankees the best package for a player, I'm quite certain the Yankees would take it.
It's fine if you want to ignore the facts here. But the Yankees aren't a rival team - and if the Mets are fine making deals with the Braves and Phillies - I'm not really sure why they won't do business across town with a team that isn't even in the same league.
And again - it's not about Frazier/Andujar. They're apparently willing to include Garcia as well for Syndergaard and would probably put together a pretty damn good package for him. They're not asking the Mets to give him away for nothing.
Defend it if you want, it's petty.
I will give the lineup a little slack and have patience with them. They starting pitching hasn't done much lately so I will stick to worrying about them.
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why would they want Andujar and they kind of don’t need Frazier. Certainly not for Noah.
It's been said that NYY would include Garcia in a deal for Syndergaard. He's the one guy they'd be willing to move Deivi for.
It's not really about Frazier/Andujar - there's just nothing to defend. An unnamed exec basically came out and said that they can't stomach the idea of one of their guys coming here and winning a WS.
If you ask me, that's a pretty crappy way to run a franchise and it's obvious they don't want to help the Yankees even if it means improving their own outlook.
Right, I’m sure the Yankees would be willing and fair trade partners with the Red Sox as long as it “helped the team”.
Never mind that Frazier/Andujar don’t fit with what the Mets need.
Never mind that I’m sure there are many teams across MLB that prefer not to trade with cross town or divisional rivals.
Except the Yanks. They are totally fine with it.
Wait. Fuck this. You’re the same lunatic that goes absolutely ape shit every time a Yankee fan dare show up on a thread that may be Mets related. Yet here you are. Again. You hypocritical piece of shit. I NEVER want to see you comment on Yankees fans being on Mets threads again.
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But MLB arms have often struggled as starters for NYY. It predates Rothschild, though he doesn't seem to be helping. It's weird, IDK if it's park or pressure but the list of failed SP acquisitions is remarkably long.
Really ? The Yankees are among the worst teams in baseball at developing starting pitching. Since the ascension of George Steinbrenner , the Yankees have developed a total of seven good or great starting pitchers that pitched primarily for the Yankees. Seven pitchers in over four decades. Those pitchers are: Ron Guidry, Scott Kamienieki, Andy Pettite, Chien Ming Wang, Phil Hughs , Ivan Nova and Luis Severino. The jury is still out on Domingo German and Jordan Montgomery.
How about the pitchers they traded and did well for their next team?
Not every fan but definitely a lot.
I know countless Mets fans who rooted for the Braves in the 96 and 99 WS and the Phils in 09. I could never understand rooting for a Divison rival to win anything but yet to them the Yanks winning was worse. I'll never get that.
Me, I was pulling for the Mets in 86 as no way in hell I wanted the damn Sox to win anything. Ever!
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In comment 14513310 UConn4523 said:
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why would they want Andujar and they kind of don’t need Frazier. Certainly not for Noah.
It's been said that NYY would include Garcia in a deal for Syndergaard. He's the one guy they'd be willing to move Deivi for.
It's not really about Frazier/Andujar - there's just nothing to defend. An unnamed exec basically came out and said that they can't stomach the idea of one of their guys coming here and winning a WS.
If you ask me, that's a pretty crappy way to run a franchise and it's obvious they don't want to help the Yankees even if it means improving their own outlook.
Right, I’m sure the Yankees would be willing and fair trade partners with the Red Sox as long as it “helped the team”.
Never mind that Frazier/Andujar don’t fit with what the Mets need.
Never mind that I’m sure there are many teams across MLB that prefer not to trade with cross town or divisional rivals.
Except the Yanks. They are totally fine with it.
Wait. Fuck this. You’re the same lunatic that goes absolutely ape shit every time a Yankee fan dare show up on a thread that may be Mets related. Yet here you are. Again. You hypocritical piece of shit. I NEVER want to see you comment on Yankees fans being on Mets threads again.
Lol, boo hoo you lunatic. Get a fucking helmet. You guys have shown up plenty in Mets threads this season and I’ve said absolutely nothing. So yeah, you really got me there.
Guess how many fucks I give about what you think.
If the Mets offered the Yankees the best package for a player, I'm quite certain the Yankees would take it.
It's fine if you want to ignore the facts here. But the Yankees aren't a rival team - and if the Mets are fine making deals with the Braves and Phillies - I'm not really sure why they won't do business across town with a team that isn't even in the same league.
And again - it's not about Frazier/Andujar. They're apparently willing to include Garcia as well for Syndergaard and would probably put together a pretty damn good package for him. They're not asking the Mets to give him away for nothing.
Arc, I’m hardly a Wilpon apologist and I agree that they won’t deal with the Yankees for all the wrong reasons. However, pointing out that we are willing to deal with the Phillies/Braves while not the Yankees as a big deal isn’t really telling the full story. Mets deal with the Phillies/Braves to swap each other’s garbage. That’s it. When’s the last time the Mets made any trade of significance with those teams?
How many big trades happen between cross town rivals that share the back page of the newspaper? Even if they are not in the same division? Never? Owners have big egos. This isn’t unique to the Wilpons.
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It's well-documented that the Mets don't want to help the Yankees because they're concerned about seeing their own players win in the Bronx.
If the Mets offered the Yankees the best package for a player, I'm quite certain the Yankees would take it.
It's fine if you want to ignore the facts here. But the Yankees aren't a rival team - and if the Mets are fine making deals with the Braves and Phillies - I'm not really sure why they won't do business across town with a team that isn't even in the same league.
And again - it's not about Frazier/Andujar. They're apparently willing to include Garcia as well for Syndergaard and would probably put together a pretty damn good package for him. They're not asking the Mets to give him away for nothing.
Arc, I’m hardly a Wilpon apologist and I agree that they won’t deal with the Yankees for all the wrong reasons. However, pointing out that we are willing to deal with the Phillies/Braves while not the Yankees as a big deal isn’t really telling the full story. Mets deal with the Phillies/Braves to swap each other’s garbage. That’s it. When’s the last time the Mets made any trade of significance with those teams?
How many big trades happen between cross town rivals that share the back page of the newspaper? Even if they are not in the same division? Never? Owners have big egos. This isn’t unique to the Wilpons.
White Sox/Cubs??
They must be very high on Trammell as I’m sure many teams are despite his down year. Reyes is more of a DH so isn’t so useful to them and Allen projects as a back end starter by most. Pretty good deal for them imo. It makes the least sense for Cincinnati imo.
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It's well-documented that the Mets don't want to help the Yankees because they're concerned about seeing their own players win in the Bronx.
If the Mets offered the Yankees the best package for a player, I'm quite certain the Yankees would take it.
It's fine if you want to ignore the facts here. But the Yankees aren't a rival team - and if the Mets are fine making deals with the Braves and Phillies - I'm not really sure why they won't do business across town with a team that isn't even in the same league.
And again - it's not about Frazier/Andujar. They're apparently willing to include Garcia as well for Syndergaard and would probably put together a pretty damn good package for him. They're not asking the Mets to give him away for nothing.
Arc, I’m hardly a Wilpon apologist and I agree that they won’t deal with the Yankees for all the wrong reasons. However, pointing out that we are willing to deal with the Phillies/Braves while not the Yankees as a big deal isn’t really telling the full story. Mets deal with the Phillies/Braves to swap each other’s garbage. That’s it. When’s the last time the Mets made any trade of significance with those teams?
How many big trades happen between cross town rivals that share the back page of the newspaper? Even if they are not in the same division? Never? Owners have big egos. This isn’t unique to the Wilpons.
umm the Cubs/Whitesox hooked up on the Jose Quintana trade a few years ago, so yeah its pretty unique to the Wilpons...
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It's well-documented that the Mets don't want to help the Yankees because they're concerned about seeing their own players win in the Bronx.
If the Mets offered the Yankees the best package for a player, I'm quite certain the Yankees would take it.
It's fine if you want to ignore the facts here. But the Yankees aren't a rival team - and if the Mets are fine making deals with the Braves and Phillies - I'm not really sure why they won't do business across town with a team that isn't even in the same league.
And again - it's not about Frazier/Andujar. They're apparently willing to include Garcia as well for Syndergaard and would probably put together a pretty damn good package for him. They're not asking the Mets to give him away for nothing.
Arc, I’m hardly a Wilpon apologist and I agree that they won’t deal with the Yankees for all the wrong reasons. However, pointing out that we are willing to deal with the Phillies/Braves while not the Yankees as a big deal isn’t really telling the full story. Mets deal with the Phillies/Braves to swap each other’s garbage. That’s it. When’s the last time the Mets made any trade of significance with those teams?
How many big trades happen between cross town rivals that share the back page of the newspaper? Even if they are not in the same division? Never? Owners have big egos. This isn’t unique to the Wilpons.
umm the Cubs/Whitesox hooked up on the Jose Quintana trade a few years ago, so yeah its pretty unique to the Wilpons...
Great job! You found ONE(ish) from a few years ago. Golf clap?
Hate on the Wilpons all you want, it doesn’t mean you are right. It’s hardly common or unique to the Mets ownership.