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Golden Tate Contract

robbieballs2003 : 7/29/2019 1:47 pm
I'm trying to leave opinion out of it.

I read that if Tate is suspended his 2019 and 2020 base salaries are no longer guaranteed. If that is true then he can be released next season and we would actually save $3,000,000 in cap space. If he is not suspended then it would cost us $4,975,000 against the cap to cut him in 2020 meaning that he would most likely be released in 2021 since he would be 33 years old and save us $6,000,000 against the cap. It seems like this was only really a 2 year deal but if this suspension holds up it would give the Giants another option to get out of the deal if they wanted to. I just thought that was interesting.

Why is it a $3,000,000 savings in 2020 if he is suspended as opposed to a $4,975,000 cap hit of he isn't?

His signing bonus was $10,000,000. So, that number divided by 4, the length of the contract, leads to a prorated number of $2,500,000. His base salary in 2020 is $7,975,000 and was guaranteed before the suspension. That means his cap hit was be approximately $10,500,000. But when you add up the signing bonus that hasn't been accounted for yet of $7,500,000 ($2,500,000 x 3 years) plus his guaranteed salary of $7,975,000 then you get approximately $15,500,000. When you subtract that $15,500,000 from the $10,500,000 that is where you get the approximately $5,000,000 cap hit (OTC either estimates the numbers of there is something like a $25,000 workout bonus in his contract).

Well, if his 2020 salary isn't guaranteed then you subtract that $7,975,000 from the $5,000,000 cap hit you actually will save approximately $3,000,000.
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We need to stop  
TommyWiseau : 7/29/2019 1:51 pm : link
taking on dead money. Hopefully he is a good player for the next two or so years for us
RE: We need to stop  
DavidinBMNY : 7/29/2019 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14511868 TommyWiseau said:
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taking on dead money. Hopefully he is a good player for the next two or so years for us
Agree, but nice to have options.

Great write up by the OP!
If that ends up the case  
rasbutant : 7/29/2019 4:05 pm : link
and he plays for the Giants for just one season they will have paid him 15 mil for 1yr...Ouch.

If no suspension and things go as originally planned and its a 2yr contract they will have paid him an average of 11.5mil/yr each yr for 2 years.

If he plays out the whole contract they will pay him $9,375,000 average per year for 4 years.

He's not going to win his  
MBavaro : 7/29/2019 4:32 pm : link
appeal. I'd bet my house on it.
looking at the contract  
ron mexico : 7/29/2019 4:40 pm : link
curious whey they gave him a guaranteed roster bonus for 2019 instead of just including that sum in his base salary.

It would have helped in this situation where he wont get paid and we get some cap relief during his suspension
another quality/desperation reach  
mdc1 : 7/29/2019 4:40 pm : link
to fill voids. Drafting/coaching is the solution. we never learn. we are doing these dumb things at a losing level, which makes no sense.
This was a bad contract to begin with  
chuckydee9 : 7/29/2019 8:11 pm : link
now we need to be smart and dump him unless he outperforms his contract..
RE: He's not going to win his  
joeinpa : 7/29/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14512095 MBavaro said:
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appeal. I'd bet my house on it.


Someone posted yesterday. If he knew post treatment there was a banned substance, he could have known pretreatment.
IMHO, when a player  
section125 : 7/30/2019 8:01 am : link
does this (fails a drug test) his contract should be able to be terminated without penalty to the signing team if they choose.

He knew what he was doing.
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