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Good Giants Insider Interview (short video) with Phil Simms

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/6/2019 1:36 pm
FYI...
Giants Insider: Phil Simms assesses Giants QB's - ( New Window )
Also  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/6/2019 1:40 pm : link
Brian Baldinger
Giants Insider: Brian Baldinger on the potential of the Giants' O-Line - ( New Window )
A few thoughts on these videos  
jvm52106 : 8/6/2019 2:15 pm : link
1) Phil Simms is still jacked today. That guy remade himself after the 82 knee injury and the fluke 83 thumb injury.
2) I like Phil's comments on Jones regarding size, move ability, throwing and quickness of decisions. He even said who cares on the number of completions in practice, it is about how he looks, how he moves and the command of the offense.
3) Zeitler is a massive addition for us and honestly will have a huge impact across the board offensively. He will take on a leadership role, mentor role and will help solidify the Right Side of the line. He makes Remmers even better and will also make Halapio better as well.
4) Manning looks good and if all goes well we could see the 19 to 20 KC model transition that Gettlemen has been speaking about.
5) Phil's point about the WR's can be better this year just by the fact that it is year 2 of the offense, the Oline is better and Barkley makes the WR's better. Not being able to over commit outside will leave matchups favorable to even lesser tier WR's.
RE: A few thoughts on these videos  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/6/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14520369 jvm52106 said:
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1) Phil Simms is still jacked today. That guy remade himself after the 82 knee injury and the fluke 83 thumb injury.
2) I like Phil's comments on Jones regarding size, move ability, throwing and quickness of decisions. He even said who cares on the number of completions in practice, it is about how he looks, how he moves and the command of the offense.
3) Zeitler is a massive addition for us and honestly will have a huge impact across the board offensively. He will take on a leadership role, mentor role and will help solidify the Right Side of the line. He makes Remmers even better and will also make Halapio better as well.
4) Manning looks good and if all goes well we could see the 19 to 20 KC model transition that Gettlemen has been speaking about.
5) Phil's point about the WR's can be better this year just by the fact that it is year 2 of the offense, the Oline is better and Barkley makes the WR's better. Not being able to over commit outside will leave matchups favorable to even lesser tier WR's.


I also was left thinking about Phil's wide receivers for the bulk of his career. The best guy he ever had was Mike Sherrard in Phil's final season...and Sherrard didn't even make it through that year.
Simms is jacked!  
ZogZerg : 8/6/2019 2:45 pm : link
How old is he?

RE: Simms is jacked!  
Greg from LI : 8/6/2019 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14520401 ZogZerg said:
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How old is he?


63, I believe. He's certainly aged well.
RE: RE: A few thoughts on these videos  
Matt in SGS : 8/6/2019 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14520375 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14520369 jvm52106 said:


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1) Phil Simms is still jacked today. That guy remade himself after the 82 knee injury and the fluke 83 thumb injury.
2) I like Phil's comments on Jones regarding size, move ability, throwing and quickness of decisions. He even said who cares on the number of completions in practice, it is about how he looks, how he moves and the command of the offense.
3) Zeitler is a massive addition for us and honestly will have a huge impact across the board offensively. He will take on a leadership role, mentor role and will help solidify the Right Side of the line. He makes Remmers even better and will also make Halapio better as well.
4) Manning looks good and if all goes well we could see the 19 to 20 KC model transition that Gettlemen has been speaking about.
5) Phil's point about the WR's can be better this year just by the fact that it is year 2 of the offense, the Oline is better and Barkley makes the WR's better. Not being able to over commit outside will leave matchups favorable to even lesser tier WR's.



I also was left thinking about Phil's wide receivers for the bulk of his career. The best guy he ever had was Mike Sherrard in Phil's final season...and Sherrard didn't even make it through that year.


It's still amazing that the Giants won the 1990 Super Bowl and their leading receiver was Dave Meggett. Which when you think of him as a scat back and one of the few "weapons" they had, you'd think it made sense. And then you realize he led the team with THIRTY-NINE RECEPTIONS!

That's insane. 39 catches lead the entire team. The most from a WR was Stephen Baker with 26.

Simms only had 1 WR go for over 1000 yards for him over his career, when Lionel Manuel did it in 1988 (Earnest Gray did it in 1983, but Brunner was the main QB).
Matt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/6/2019 2:56 pm : link
I actually didn't realize the receiving totals were that bad.

And yet Phil threw for over 4,000 yards in 1984 too with virtually no running game.
Nice to see Phil showing a little more Giants homerism.  
bceagle05 : 8/6/2019 2:58 pm : link
I felt like he kept his distance a bit as CBS' #1 color analyst, but now that he's out of that role he's embracing his roots a bit more. My father's in his 60s and still idolizes Phil - I guess suffering through the 1970s made Super Bowl XXI pretty damn special. To this day my dad can't relax and enjoy a Super Bowl until each QB has five or six incompletions, because he doesn't want anyone touching Phil's Super Bowl completion percentage record.
RE: RE: RE: A few thoughts on these videos  
Moondawg : 8/6/2019 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14520419 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 14520369 jvm52106 said:


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1) Phil Simms is still jacked today. That guy remade himself after the 82 knee injury and the fluke 83 thumb injury.
2) I like Phil's comments on Jones regarding size, move ability, throwing and quickness of decisions. He even said who cares on the number of completions in practice, it is about how he looks, how he moves and the command of the offense.
3) Zeitler is a massive addition for us and honestly will have a huge impact across the board offensively. He will take on a leadership role, mentor role and will help solidify the Right Side of the line. He makes Remmers even better and will also make Halapio better as well.
4) Manning looks good and if all goes well we could see the 19 to 20 KC model transition that Gettlemen has been speaking about.
5) Phil's point about the WR's can be better this year just by the fact that it is year 2 of the offense, the Oline is better and Barkley makes the WR's better. Not being able to over commit outside will leave matchups favorable to even lesser tier WR's.



I also was left thinking about Phil's wide receivers for the bulk of his career. The best guy he ever had was Mike Sherrard in Phil's final season...and Sherrard didn't even make it through that year.



It's still amazing that the Giants won the 1990 Super Bowl and their leading receiver was Dave Meggett. Which when you think of him as a scat back and one of the few "weapons" they had, you'd think it made sense. And then you realize he led the team with THIRTY-NINE RECEPTIONS!

That's insane. 39 catches lead the entire team. The most from a WR was Stephen Baker with 26.

Simms only had 1 WR go for over 1000 yards for him over his career, when Lionel Manuel did it in 1988 (Earnest Gray did it in 1983, but Brunner was the main QB).


Besides Bavaro going for 1001 in '86, I can't think of anybody else either.
the 1990 Giants simply didn't pass very much  
Greg from LI : 8/6/2019 3:03 pm : link
They pretty much only threw the ball when they had to.

I would have thought someone went for 1000 yards in 1984 if only because Simms passed for 4000 yards that year, but nope. High man in receiving yardage was Bobby Johnson with 795. They spread the ball around a lot - five guys (Johnson, Mowatt, Manuel, Gray, Byron Williams) averaged at least 25 yards per game, but none topped 50. Seven guys caught at least 25 passes - those five plus Galbreath and Carpenter.
Sherrard was on pace for a 1155 yard season  
Greg from LI : 8/6/2019 3:05 pm : link
It was only for 6 games, but it gave us a glimpse at what could have been had Simms ever had even a good receiver to throw to, let alone a great one.
RE: the 1990 Giants simply didn't pass very much  
Matt in SGS : 8/6/2019 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14520428 Greg from LI said:
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They pretty much only threw the ball when they had to.

I would have thought someone went for 1000 yards in 1984 if only because Simms passed for 4000 yards that year, but nope. High man in receiving yardage was Bobby Johnson with 795. They spread the ball around a lot - five guys (Johnson, Mowatt, Manuel, Gray, Byron Williams) averaged at least 25 yards per game, but none topped 50. Seven guys caught at least 25 passes - those five plus Galbreath and Carpenter.


1990 was by design for Parcells. 1990 was the first year that the clock would run on out of bounds plays up until 2 minutes in the first half and 5 minutes in the 2nd half/OT. So Parcells would go for time of possession, and beat teams down with OJ/Hampton/Tillman. Pat Summerall called it "they choke the life out of you". They set a record for fewest turnovers in a 16 game season (only 14 all year).
The Giants played "fast" games as a result.

The Giants beat the Lions 20-0, and that game ended in about 2 hours and 30 min. Same with their Monday Night win at Indianapolis. The Giants kept the ball on the ground, didn't turn it over, and their defense was #2 overall so they got the ball right back to the offense to keep killing the clock.
Byron Williams was the homerun  
jvm52106 : 8/6/2019 3:20 pm : link
guy in weeks 1 and 2 of 84.. Didn't do much after that.

Stacy Robinson was the big play threat later in 86 but he just never was consistent.

Odessa Turner was the big tease. If he could have stayed healthy for even one whole game, let alone a season, he could have been pretty good.

1990 the Giants rarely threw the ball. We ground the clock to protect our lack of offense and to compensate for our best receiver, Bavaro, having a horrible knee that limited him. Bavaro, Cross and Mrosko were not going to challenge teams much in the passing game. Rodney Hampton missed time early with a bad ankle and then basically all of the playoffs. If he were healthy all season he would have been a big part of the passing attack.

It's amazing what Simms did with so little WR talent around him.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/6/2019 3:21 pm : link
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May not have had great receivers  
RollBlue : 8/6/2019 3:31 pm : link
but had a damn good TE, Barvaro, and had very good/great defenses.

I hope people are right that the O-Line is much better, and lack of talent at WR won't be an issue - I'm thinking they are both going to be an issue...
RE: May not have had great receivers  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/6/2019 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14520459 RollBlue said:
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but had a damn good TE, Barvaro, and had very good/great defenses.

I hope people are right that the O-Line is much better, and lack of talent at WR won't be an issue - I'm thinking they are both going to be an issue...


'great receivers' didn't even have very good receivers.
RE: Matt  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/6/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14520421 Eric from BBI said:
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I actually didn't realize the receiving totals were that bad.

And yet Phil threw for over 4,000 yards in 1984 too with virtually no running game.

Was that the year Simms threw for over 500 yds or whatever against Cincy?

It was a loss of course.
Coach Red Beaulieu  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/6/2019 6:17 pm : link
That was 1985. Simms' best games that year often ended with losses. The two Dallas losses in 1985 were gut-wrenching... the only thing that came close to me were the playoff losses to the Vikings (1997) and 49ers (2002).
That Vikings loss still gets me lathered up  
ChicagoMarty : 8/6/2019 6:23 pm : link
That was the only Giant game I have ever attended in person.
Simms has reliable receivers.......  
Simms11 : 8/6/2019 8:57 pm : link
Navarro was a big part of their passing game. Lionel Manuel, Stephen Baker and Bobby Johnson were all decent if unspectacular receivers. Marc Ingram was a decent receiver IMO, but Simms teams were built around a solid Oline and running game. They used the Fullback much more then too.
RE: Simms has reliable receivers.......  
Simms11 : 8/6/2019 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14520747 Simms11 said:
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Navarro was a big part of their passing game. Lionel Manuel, Stephen Baker and Bobby Johnson were all decent if unspectacular receivers. Marc Ingram was a decent receiver IMO, but Simms teams were built around a solid Oline and running game. They used the Fullback much more then too.


Had reliable receivers and Bavaro not Navarro! Autocorrect sucks
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